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Ubunja, emmaodet and co, take it easy with the eye-opening discussions; it is best to move these interesting discussions to a thread of its own so we don't unknowingly derail the thread, and we have it accessible to everyone instead of it being scattered and hidden in 1490+ pages of this thread and getting lost we the thread moves on (you know how fast the thread moves). Tag me please when the thread is created.

Kipaji:
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Your memes are great.

Griezmann007:
For my mind, I laugh sotey, come tell myself say dis woman no sabi where she dey.

Lol. She truly doesn't where she is.

ubunja:
mother's Day messages on TV and Radio: "Women are special and face incredible odds to do what they do. God bless our women!"

father's Day messages on TV and Radio: "To all the men playing their role as leaders and protectors, happy father's day to you."

If you can't see a problem with these two messages you're part of the problem.

It is on father's day that some women remember to wish single mums and "women playing the role of fathers" a happy father's day.

@Regex

I am currently on WhatsApp. Where you dey?

Dliquidmetal:
Happy fathers day mi comrades! Even though my dad&I aren't in talking terms(nor seen)for years now but I still wish him well!

Wetin happen? Not my mind business though, and you don't have to tell me.

Happy Sunday. Happy father's day.

@Calibrator

I see you. Long time. How have you been?

ayomikuolatunji:
A hardcore redpiller recently got a job in his career as a React Developer in a foreign firm with a lots of benefits. I started learning web development the very day this thread was created in 2020 and I have used it as map that guild my life. I appreciate every loyal members of this thread. They said redpillers are loser, bitter,non achievers, ugly, broke, and all sorts of names but we are bigger than them.

#redpill.

Good to see that you are putting yourself first. I like when men are winning and moving forward. More grease to your elbow.

Finally, avoid quoting females, trolls and daft monikers here. No let anything stain your white. We dey your back.

Freemaxon:
Wow... I can believe have come this far.... Thanks to everyone that have contributed massively to this thread... Love you all

Good job. You have done well. The learning doesn't stop.

Dear Redpillers,

We should be aware that one trick trolls use is to create alternate accounts to reply and oppose their main accounts. By replying themselves, they further derail the thread, and they have unsuspecting redpillers quoting their alternate accounts to warn them about replying their main trolling accounts. You will notice that these alternates won't stop quoting main the accounts; sometimes they will blantly ignore your warnings and keep replying or they will promise not to indulge the main trolling account, only for them to continue again.

Only tell known redpillers to avoid quoting trolls (especially when it is likely not yet apparent to others that an account is a troll). If redpillers persist in quoting them, don't warn them again or chatise them and never warn them again.

The recent attacks/mischief on this thread have its source from the ashewo thread. Ever since staunch regulars from that thread came here, this thread lost its usual tranquility, fun, savour and smooth flow. Either they are trolling or opposing the red pill, or they are trying to blend in and chase relevance here to massage their egos. Nothing is beneath them and they never give up in their emotional games until they feel satisfied.

All you are seeing here has been cleverly planned way beforehand, and I suspect that it is the effort of a group because their attacks, since the ashewo citizens started coming here, usually come in waves, ie. all of a sudden, you will see two or more people from the ashewo thread and a few relatively new and unfamiliar accounts uniting to argue, troll, oppose, and engage in mischief-making; as their nonsense progresses, you see more of them joining the party. Ignoring them is the best thing.

Nice, but I would prefer he never gets married. Instead, let him enjoy his life and ball till death.

@Heartofcity12

You were so right.

mosdii:
The Greatest Family Ever

Na you be this?

heartofcity12:
That person you quoted has obviously become a troll over the past few days ago. You’re giving him exactly what he wants, ATTENTION.. He used to be deep into bluepill but he has switched to the dreadful blackpill over the days, what does that speak about him? A troll that can not maintain a stand, he’s just all over the place. He could go create his own thread and preach either bluepill or blackpill or yellowpill for all I care. He’s mischievous and he obviously has an agenda..I suspect he’s the same person behind that Trans whatever monicker. I think he should be ignored henceforth..Thanks.

Okay, it makes sense now. I have known him to associate himself with the black pill from when he first came here because he once posted a blackpill video (after he notoriously downplayed wealth and hyped poverty during the money discussion) and, to me, he always seem to subtly diss the red pill and trying to paint it as a delusion and some false doctrine. Though I couldn't really place his stance because he seems wishy-washy, but I will ignore him from henceforth.

Ronnnie:
I will like to understand what you tend to achieve when you bring old Post of people here while trolling them?... You do this time without number but you still don't prove a single point from doing that...
Nobody here claims to be perfect....We all have our own share of issues while some believing in dealing with it silently,some also require advice therefore bringing their issues here....
All we do here is try to help our fellow men see the clear truth of life even tho some take it too far concerning the redpill....
Troll in peace but that action of yours is irrelevant so to speak...
You are free to bring mine here also when replying me...expecting that

Ronnnie my guy, ignore the odious troll and detractor. Since this thread started, all that has always mattered has been coming together to help each other improve and refine our knowledge of the red pill and guide each other via discussions.

Those that followed this thread during its traquil and sweet period know the following: No one is perfect here and we all have our challenges; no one here claims to be perfect in logic or to be balling in life; we never made an issue over who is rich or poor (we don't care about that, we only care about the red pill); there is no hierarchy or competition here on who sabi pass since we all see ourselves as redpillers helping each other to achieve the goals of this thread; redpillers don't play silly games or chase relevance; and we don't look down on or condescend to each other.

We know that anyone, regardless of race, religion, and status, can contribute meaningfully to this thread. Your challenges and struggles, past or present, do not take anything from you. As long as you are swallowing the red pill, striving to be better and obeying the rules of this thread, there is no problem. All redpillers are solidly behind you.

Next time, don't reply that vermin. Though there is no excuse, but I understand. It has pulled the same move on Ubunja, but to no avail; ignore it from henceforth.

LifestyleTonite:
Girls give excuses to guys they are not attracted to but make excuses to be with guys they find attractive.

Red Pill can't help you conquer that. It is the law of attraction, it is natural. One day you will find one who likes you for you.

Ignore that girl. She's not into you.

Red pill never purported that it can help make you attractive to a girl that doesn't find you attractive. "Choose who chooses you." Other than that, this post is valid.

LifestyleTonite:
You need to learn to tell people the truth. Red Pill poses as the truth but leaves certain guys in delusion e.g short and unattractive guys. Such guys often think once they swallow the Red Pill, they will have their way with women. Instead of them to date within their league, you see them going after hoties because RP theories has led them into believing they now have game. `What game does a Chad use to get hot girls? Non at all. All he uses are his god-given looks. This means that the girls throw themselves at him easily while incels and unattractive dudes have to work extra hard to even be able to approach them.

Ubunja tells the truth. Red pill doesn't just pose as the truth, it is a truthful and ever-evolving praxeology since more knowledge and ideas surface with the time and this affords us the opportunity to refine and improve our perspectives. It makes no one delusional. All you wrote here reek of ignorance and misrepresention of the red pill. You are strawmanning the red pill and acting like certain things embodied in the red pill (and already discussed here) are foreign or antithetical to the red pill. You clearly haven't done your due diligence on the red pill.

Why not do your research instead of blabbing ignorantly? Even I myself have done an extensive research on the black pill; few years ago I used to follow a lot of black pill spaces and channels to know what the blackpill was all about. Never did I ever contribute or try to have a say until I was well grounded in the subject; I never stooped so low to even play silly games or throw red pill at them. I did more learning than speaking (I only spoke twice in many months only to ask questions). Why can't you do the same with the red pill?

If you think the red pill fosters delusion and isn't the truth, why not go to a blackpill thread or create one (if you really want to spread your truth) ? Why linger in a "strictly REDPILL" thread? What is going on here? Why can't you leave us with our "delusions" ?

RP makes guys enter into competition with Chads who are not even in competition with them.

So "choose who chooses you" is competition with chad? SMH.

Look, you can swallow all the RP game you want, once a girl is not attracted to you, nothing you do will ever make you have peace with her.

When did the red pill or redpillers say that red pill can make a girl that isn't attracted to you find you attractive? SMH. Haven't we said repeatedly that genuine desire can't be negotiated? We have always said that no one should be bothered with a female that doesn't find one attractive; if we could conjure up attraction, would we say that? DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE.

Why do you need to do work or learn game to get girls, the same girls Chad gets without any work or game? Isn't it sensible to apply that energy in working to earn a living? Once you are done earning a living, you will certainly find the girl for you with whom you won't need game, just masculinity. You'll be with her and she will be your peace. Sadly, the RP swallowed by guys can make them mess up even when they meet the right girl.

More misrepresentation. Does red pill prevent anyone from earning a living? In fact, red pill tells you to put your purpose and ambitions above women, which aliens with putting yourself first. Of course, if you have money, even as a bluepiller, you will see women; has the red pill ever disputed this? You are just creating strawman arguments.

The Black Pill tells guys the truth - If you are not attractive, don't go about thinking about women. Focus on things you love. One day, the girl who will like you for you will show up. Yes, she might not be beautiful, but she will treat you like a King.

SMH. Like you for you? Be deceiving yourself.

Black pill has a lot good points, but it doesn't give the full picture. It misrepresents and looks down on the red pill and doesn't understand the importance of red pill knowledge and game. In some instances it agrees with red pill, but the red and black pill diverge in their aim, conclusions and scope. Do your due diligence.

LifestyleTonite:
An experiment Red Pillers should consider.

The experiment involved two monkeys in separate cages but placed beside each other. A scientist approached the cages with two bowls, one containing pieces of cucumber while the other one contained strawberries.
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So, instead of swallowing all the Red Pills, just pray to find the girl who will be the cucumber that will always be available for you instead of looking for strawberry that only wants Chad.

Bitter truth is Black Pill.

One main problem with you blackpillers is that you guys misrepresent the red pill a lot and, most times, inadvertently conflate it with pickup artistry (PUA). In doing such, you guys usually end up creating strawman arguments/assertions against the red pill, looking down on the red pill, and nursing contempt and disregard against it. This attitude emanates from you guys' ignorance and misapprehension of red pill and this attitude is common with virtually all of you.

Though I will assume you are a blackpiller, but, from your previous posts, it's not clear to me if you are a detractor who is weaponising the black pill to subtly disparage and denigrate the red pill or you are simply just a typical blackpiller because you could've simply respected the fact that this thread is "strictly redpill." You could've simply gone to a black pill space or thread —or simply created such— instead of making it a point of duty to combat and diss what we do here. How hard is it to maintain your own lane? Even I as an atheist won't go to a christain gathering to deconstruct and combat Christianity even though I am convinced of my irreligious position. Doing such would be silly. I wouldn't even go to a "strictly bluepill" space to do this nonsense. I'm matured enough to know and respect my lane.

That being said, your monkey experiment is a true experiment (it was done with grapes, not strawberry), but your lessons and inferences are gratuitous and unnecessary misrepresentation of the red pill. Firstly, as has been discussed here in the past by many (am sure you don't know that), red pill and redpillers have never denied and have even stated that in terms of sexual attraction, chads have a good advantage over incels and normies and that sexual attraction has biological roots; we've also stated that chads don't need to put in much effort to get a particular result with the same set of women compared to others. So why act like your point is incongruent with or alien to the red pill? Though the redpill space here hardly uses "blackpillesque" terms like "chad," "normies" etc., but we've conveyed this fact in previous discussions.

Secondly, get it into your head that the red pill doesn't promise equal results for everyone with the same set of women as far as lust is concern; even among redpillers, some of us are more sexually attractive and more handsome than others. Even in terms of dating and marriage, the red pill doesn't say that everyone is of equal value and can pull the same moves (ie. the redpill will tell you that rich men, bluepill or not, will get more options and leverage than poor men, bluepill or not). The red pill simply shows you an aspect of reality (it has been explained repeatedly here, do your due diligence) and teaches game and other peripherals since they aid in our understanding of female nature. It tells you what works and, if possible, why they work; it is also a mirror that gives one a realistic picture and evaluation of oneself and tells one to be the best one can be, but it cannot make one what one can never be. It is left for you to apply and TEST these insights and forge your path.

Finally, the red pill has never advocated anyone competing with chads or any other man for females. "Choose the girl that chooses you" has always been one of our dictums and we are not trying to compete with anyone. Also, the red pill doesn't encourage anger of hatred against women; redpillers don't hate or harbour anger against women. Many of the unnecessary things you have written and your silly misrepresentation and straw man arguments could have been avoided if your did your due diligence or stayed in your lane. By the way, just to add, the cucumber is not different from other women and she craves chad as well as the strawberry (just as much as all of them eg. the obese, the fit, ugly and beautiful want and think they deserve rich men); since you don't turn her on, she will be with you for you utility and other benefits. It is what it is.

LordAdam16:
It's allowed. You can disagree at well. I always welcome contrasting viewpoints.

Sure.

Proof that we understand and agree with each other.

Sure.

My initial response to Sajmark's post was because of the "Once a simp, always a simp" absolutism within a specific relationship.

I'm cautious about absolutes in TRP because hard as we may try, most guys especially on our side of the pond still want fulfilling romantic relationships. I'd rather they didn't, but it is what it is.

I am not a man of serious relationships and marriage as well. We share the same sentiment; personally, I too won't advise people to go into such, but there wouldn't be a glimmer of disapproval from my end if people have made up there minds to go into such. All I will do is give them useful advice in their journey where I can.

I understand your concern with absolutism. However, don't you think that the mere abiding desire to get entangled in a relationship/marriage can't and won't invalidate or neutralise a red pill truth or principle even if it is an absolute? This is just saying; I am not saying that your points, or that of Sajmàk and I, are invalid. After all, we are all on the same page. The idea in my question can apply in many other areas and my question is a general one separate from the points we made.

I don't believe it is the only way. The only reason why it seems that way is the difficulty in applying TRP. As it goes against the very nature, upbringing, and societal conditioning of the vast majority of men. Men regularly backslide, drop frame, and momentarily fail sh*t tests and the lady subconsciously picks up on that.

Even in a fresh relationship, the dynamics would deteriorate under the same circumstances.

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No b to hurry comot relationship because you finish 'The Rational Man', when you never internalize TRP properly. Wetin you dey avoid for your current relationship go still dey wait you for junction. It is after you've worked on yourself, concretely worked out the errors you made in your current relationship from inception to date, identified what you'd be working towards in a realistic LTR, that you decide whether leaving is for the best.

If you're still doing "baby, come over" in school or as a young adult, lucky you. Now is your time to make mistakes and gain practical experience, if you're planning to get married. In fact, you can change gf every 3 days while building your frame if you so choose, you no send anybody papa.

-Lord

I agree with you 99%. The 1% disagreement is on our divergent views on whether one, usually a grown man, can change his simp/beta status when it has been engraved in a female mind because he has been simping big time, and for a considerable amount of time, that it has become associated with his identity (all these coupled with the fact that he is not known to have been an alpha; of course, it's his pre-redpill period); or he had usually made fatal nonredpill moves that irreversibly informs how he is perceived (eg. crying; getting so emotional and then telling her his problems; wearing a female dress of his own accord and doing feminine sh!t of his own accord, etc) There are some things that a woman can't "unsee." Even if a woman thinks a man is an alpha and he then makes similar mistakes with her when they meet, he will suffer the same thing as he has shown that alphaness isn't truly in him; even if a man was really exhibiting alpha traits and he now makes serious beta/simp mistakes here and there unlike before, he will suffer the same fate and then become a conquered territory and the woman seeks the touch of a new alpha.

It depends, hugely, on how it reflects on his personality and becomes associated with it in her mind. For me, once it is there, it will take a miracle to change that. Nevertheless, while we may agree to disagree, I will still brood over your point.

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I will like to make a clarification for the sake of those who read my previous post since my write-up seemed to have contained nuances due the way I phrased my message. I agree with everything you wrote about starting afresh, in the way you put it. However, when I said "start afresh" I didn't necessarily mean that they must go into a new relationship or marriage. I can understand that it came across as that. Starting afresh, as I intended, meant dealing with new women in the capacity and situation in which one's new red pill awareness can successfully be implemented to yield sexual success to the utmost (most common is spinning plates and dealing with the new women, or woman, that "chose you" on a fùcks level only). It's like a new journey in dealing with women... hence starting afresh.

Starting afresh doesn't mean you start again doing the same old beta/simpish mistakes or expose one's self to situations and conditions that will yield poor results. Even though there will be a good difference going into a new relationship/marriage as a new man with a new woman who doesn't perceive you as simp, the humps and bumps and scenerios you highlighted are spot on and really worth considering. Some other time in the future, discussions will be made on this to discuss it at length.

Finally, one thing you said that is true and worth considering is that people conflate frame with sexual compatibility. Have a great day.

CaveAdullam:
You too are bloody. Looooool

It is just a speculation o. It could also be that this thread has served its purpose to him, he had given his all and he felt no need to hang around. Maybe he is content to just be a guest.

Anyhow anyhow, I wish BLOODYSPERM the best in all things.

CaveAdullam:
I miss Bloodysperm though.

No 'tueh...just blood on the streets'.

I miss BLOODYSPERM too. Well, maybe nairaland was a detraction to him. Social media and internet can be pernicious distractions and serious time wasters.

Maybe he had to deactivate and utterly cut off all distractions to focus on pressing and important things (eg. more self-development). It happens; not everyone can moderate and control their internet usage. People should do what works for them.

CaveAdullam:
It's the month of June in absolute disclosure, some shawtys has started introspecting their lives after 6 months into the new year and discovered that they need to move on and some of their boyfriends need to eat 'breakfast'.

New monickers just flooding this space like "brrrrrrrrrrr...traffic everywhere...pim...pim...pim". Loooool.

Anytime Heartòfcity12 and Jeshàl post just know that they've been served breakfast, especially Jeshàl. By the way, Jeshàl, where is DEMZEÈ?

Jeshàl, our future high-value patriarch, is also DEMZÈE and dàpcity.

Tueh!

@ LordAdam16

Nice points. Thanks for your input.

NB: I had to bring our discussion here and remove my post in the red pill thread. I HAVE COMMENTED ON YOU SECOND POST HERE.

hazard7:
Hi guys, its been a while. Big thumps to the guys still keeping this space alive.
To the workout enthusiast in the house. It's been long since I workout so I decided to yesterday and my calf workout literally gave me a huge ache in my leg now I can't work and I think I have muscle sprain so who has experience this before and how did you solve it?.

if you haven't worked out in a long while, the level of soreness you will experience when you resume is similar to that of when you first started gyming. On the other hand, the soreness you feel when you have been working out regularly isn't that much; it's as if your body has gotten used to the training.

Try to rest. Muscles must be given time to heal. You will be alright. Don't rush things; rest and recovery are very important in achieving your goals.

hazard7:
Thanks man, truth is I can't even walk properly without limping

It happens. The first time I gymed (upper body workout), my muscles were so sore that I almost couldn't wear my shirts or take off my T-shirts.

When I first did thorough leg workouts, I felt pains in my leg, especially the calfs and thighs. I couldn't walk properly and it was as if my inner thighs were on fire; I was restless and could hardly sleep. My knees felt sharp pain when bent down to squat.

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ubunja:
The Lion's Den

This chick is firing on all cylinders...

"The alpha is her god. You are just something to survive on." Jeez!

Her topics are inviting. Kai!

ubunja:
Number 3 of the greatest YouTubers I recommend:

ROM WILLS
https://youtube.com/c/RomWills

A Guy. He's in his 50s and brings a wealth of game to the manosphere. Another buddy with the late Kevin Samuels he's the guy who first talked about women's sexual Shadow World on YouTube (as in the secret things women do when they unleash their raw sexual lust with discrete men that the average man will never witness). He's on record for preferring to use "Select" and "Non Select" in place of Alpha and Beta because he feels Alpha and Beta don't quite explain the reality of men who get women vs men who don't get women. He's big on the body game (gym) and being Chosen and his work on choosing signals is pure gold. He never bashes women but lays out female nature in a friendly rational way. Honestly he must be number 1 on this list but I chose to put him in 3rd place and give 2nd and 1st place in fact to Ladies who are part of the manosphere and give a unique insight into the game.

Back then, I listened to his profound insights on body game. Dude is frank and insightful.

@LordAdam16

I am not disagreeing with you. I am just sharing my perspective.

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Let's say you have read the The 48 Laws of Power. Someone who has read The 48 Laws of Power will have success implementing what he has read against others and even against you to some extent if you are unaware of his knowledge (sometimes we losen up and don't always analyse, read meaning into and suspect everything; and we don't remember vividly all we've read). However when that person tells you he/she has read the book, you become alert and might find yourself reading meanings in his/her action to see where he/she is possibly applying these laws... and you wouldn't want to fall for his/her "tricks (who would?). If the person has been pulling such moves on or plans to pull such, you are more likely to notice it. You see him/her in a slightly more machiavellian light than before, unlike when you thought he/she was a bit clueless and being honest in some of their actions. Sometimes, even when they are not pulling any "tricks" from that book and doing things honestly, you are still reading certain unnecessary intents to their actions and speeches. This analogy shows you additional effects (additional to the previous paragraph) of letting a woman know your source.

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The notable exceptions to my write-up are as follows:
(1) if she has no other options and your association with her is very beneficial (especially financially), you can leverage on this to make some rules and put her bullcraps in check. However, she will yield unwillingly because it ensures the benefits, but her pùssy won't get wet for you ever again. Showing her sexual best to you and doing the nasty stuffs —that she would have willing done to the alpha— will be unavailable to you; you are a turn-off.

If left to her, she would have distanced herself from you sexually and still want the benefits. The difference between you and the perceived natural alpha is that she yields to him of her own accord and readily makes herself available because he inspires genuine desire and her feelings are involved. Your leverage (the benefits) can only go so far.  Genuine desire can't be negotiated. To experience profound and maximum success in your new red pill awareness IN ALL ASPECTS, starting afresh is the only way.

(2) If you made all these mistakes as a little kid in school and many years elasped before you met again; you can create a new impression. If the simping was minimal and wasn't a big-time, blatant mistake, the better chances you have at correcting them.
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I am not advocating divorce or the dissolution of your relationship. I am just reporting on how I see things. Even in marriage and relationships, there are things that you do that will irreversibly damage sexual attraction from your woman and level of respect as a alpha; despite this, relationships and marriages still continue despite the damaged because of financial benefits from the man, investments, convenience and diminished options. Heck, even betas are married to women who don't find them attractive and worthy of respect, but they move along because he has the benefits she married him for. A lot of husbands have lasting marriages, but they will never get to the sexual results and unalloyed lust from their wives that an alpha has gotten and can get from her. A woman's heart and pùssy can desire someone else, but she will endure a lifelong marriage if it benefits her.

I am just reporting as I know things are.

I welcome counter opinions; let's compare notes. I am forever opening to learning and reorientation.

LordAdam16:
It may not be that deep.

Humans are a notoriously reactive species.

Na after disaster, people dey buy insurance pass.
That tym for school, na wen exam tym reach, nai church dey full.

People evolve. There's nothing stopping guys from applying red-pill knowledge in current relationships. In fact, for most people, the transition process from being blue-pilled to becoming red-pilled will take time and a couple of missteps. So, IMO, there is no immediate need to leave your current relationship.

Needless to say, if you do it right, and oil dey your woman head, she sef go confam the changes. Matthew 5:14-16 go apply to you (excuse me adherents of other religions and Atheists). Na just say she go gat accept say your BS meter don break. If she no 1 do again, na den you fit open door wide, say, "Go on, then."

No b say you go dey marriage or LTR, kon dey plan start afresh because you feel say ur current partner don see you finish. I don't think that's always realistic. Becoming better as a person is a daily mission. For those of us here who value God-fearing women, if your SO get better altar call kon start dey modify her ways, you no go lyk mk she go start afresh.

That said, everyone is free to act as the spirit leads.

-Lord

^{NB: my write-up applies especially to spinning plates and maintaining rotation; you know, when it is all about lust and fùcks. To a good extent, it can also be applied to serious relationships and marriage since your respect, your frame and sexual attraction from your woman are important components of the dynamics.}

I might want to add some clarification for the sake of discussion. First of all, I COULD BE WRONG, sajmark was probably not referring to marriage; you know most people, even I, in this country use "relationship" and "marriage" differently. Na so e be for naija and some parts of the world even though marriage is also a relationship. That being said, l move to want to duscuss.

If you have been simping (especially big-time simping) to a woman; if you have been a confirmed beta to a woman; if you have defied certain red pill principles to the detriment of her attraction towards you (eg crying, telling her your emotional problems); and she has "seen you finish," your simp/beta status is indelibly registered in her psyche. It will be impossible for her to perceive you as an alpha again and yield positively to your red pill/alpha moves. When you try to make alpha moves, she sees you as a beta who is acting a borrowed script and trying to be what you are not; as a result, she will perceive that you are manipulatively playing a game on her or, precisely put, trying to play a smart one on her and cross your boundaries. Your new efforts will fail for two simple reasons:

(1)  Your past beta self has become your identity and innate personality to her so that it now comes across as unbelievable and fake when you gyrate like an alpha and make red pill/alpha moves. She won't buy it. You are forever a turn-off. You simply can't command from her the respect, willing compliance, genuine desire (aka lust), and sexual openness an alpha commands. This is why in order to experience profound and maximum success in your new red pill awareness in all these aspects, starting afresh is your best and easiest option. If you apply red pill newly with that female you have done all those beta, simpish and nonredpill stuffs for and it is not working, move along and don't stress yourself. Women plenty.

(2) Female ego naturally won't condone succumbing to what she perceives as tricks and fakery coming from a man she perceives as a simp and beta in and out. Women take glory in playing the simp/beta, not the other way round. Women are wired to only willingly succumb and yield sexually to the man who she thinks is naturally an alpha, a man who naturally "gets it" and who she thinks have alpha/red pill sharpness and qualities in his DNA and isn't faking it. This can be called a natural feminine fantasy since no man is natural endowed with red pill awareness at birth and such has to be acquired with experience and exposure. As a result of this, women will willingly give the pùssy to, yield to and break rules for the alpha guy in whom she has seen no traces simping and weakness. He, unlike the beta and simp, gets the utmost sexual openness and her hòe side without much effort and spending a penny... genuine desire (aka unalloyed lust). This is why first impression matters and would set the tone of the encounter. This is why in order to experience profound and maximum success in your new red pill awareness, starting afresh is your best option.

Remember, only alphas can succeed with alpha moves. Betas can't get away with or succeed in making alpha moves; they will meet failure and stiff resistance from females who have seen them as betas.

My point in (2) is the reason why some guys would have noticed something: when you are running game on women and things are going smoothly, everything goes south when she discovers that you are watching and reading red pill contents and materials. In her mind, she is like "He is probably a beta and not a born alpha who naturally "gets it, hence he depends on online help and tricks from others to teach it game and manly frame. He has probably been tricking me and faking it all along and he isn't a natural alpha." She would lose interest rather than risk being a "victim" of the tricks and fakery of a beta and simp; she wouldn't risk it or give you benefit of doubt as her ego is at stake.

This is why many redpillers will advice you to never tell a female you are gaming that you are learning and consuming red pill contents and materials (online or offline). Don't let her see you reading or watching them or find out by any means that you are consuming them. Seal your mouth from using terms that shows your are learning of consuming red pill. Hide your red pill books and sources. Instead, be silent about your red pill awareness and let your actions speak for you from the first impression so that it looks as if they come naturally to you. This will make things easier for you and, sometimes, even less likely for her to intercept, anticipate or be aware of what is going on while she is focused on dealing with the alpha. She won't fear any beta tricks since she thinks you are a natural and she will drop her guard and yield

Let's say you have read the The 48 Laws of Power. Someone who has read The 48 Laws of Power ....

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