₦airaland Forum

Shymm3x:
Thanks for the Kenyan reference. I just did a little background research on that and it's only secluded to one region - Northern Kenya. Unlike the Fulani problem, which is a national problem. This is the full PDF file of someone scholarship on the Kenyan issue: http://practicalaction.org/docs/region_east_africa/conflict_in_northern_kenya.pdf

State governments in Nigeria don't have the absolute powers to restrict movement within the country - I don't think the constitution allows that. So it can always be vetoed.

Anyway, Yoruba nation is a nation within the Nigerian borders (Yorubaland is more of real country than Nigeria will ever be) - and the onus will always be on Yorubas to protect their territorial integrity and defenceless Yoruba folks against marauders. No one's life is worth snapping out cos of cows/meat.

yes Yoruba is a Nation in Nigeria yes the states cannot restrict movements but they can restrict the activities of residence,in some states in the north your can't drink alcohol in the public and the constitution is not against that law same way that law operate it can be applied to people breeding livestocks in public with out restrictions and regulations the constitution is not against that.

Shymm3x:
I don't think that's practical in a country like Nigeria. That would amount to putting a restriction on movement and the FG can always veto cos it has absolute powers.

The only thing state governors can focus on is the protection of the lives and properties of their constituencies. And they can start by creating a neighbourhood watch task force (it can be covert) that folks can get in touch with at any time of the day, with orders to kill, if needs be. When they start killing them like flies - they'll stop acting like savages.

They're not the only pastoralists in Africa - there are bigger pastoral groups in Sudan, Rwanda, Kenya and all over the continent and they don't cause the same problems everywhere. Heck, even the other Fulanis all over West Africa aren't as problematic as the ones in Nigeria. I think the ones in Nigeria just think they're invincible cos of the sense of entitlement that they own the country, hence the madness. Once folks start blowing their brains off and taking their cows - they will change their tactics and learn how to act like normal human beings.

pastoral groups are problematic in Kenya too yes in Nigeria they are becoming a bigger problem, the FG cannot over ride the state Government on this because it's not their turf in the constitution.

Shymm3x:
There's a big market for hide and skin globally. So if you take care of the business side - they can always go that route. And that won't stop them from being nomadic. Evidently, you haven't solved the problem.

Lol. I doubt state government can ban them since the FG has more powers than state governments in Nigeria and they control the centre. So they can always veto that with ease. And the problem would still be there.

Only the FG can solve the Fulani problem and since they don't care - folks need to start protecting themselves. When it becomes an eye for an eye, they'll stop killing people and find other ways to rear their cows.

they are at advantage because they move around, and yes a state Government can enact laws banning open grazing of animals anywhere in the state,once that is done and anyone grazing animals in open field is arrested and their cattle is impounded they will go back,highest they will attack government institutions which I know they don't have the capacity to attack, it can be done at a point people said you can't ban okada riders,Fashola did heaven did not fall,now bobo orobo is there and the old system is bad with gridlock everywhere.

Shymm3x:
Lol.

I'm not In New York. I'm a Londoner.

Naija isn't the belly of the beast.

The beast is the unseen power that rules the world - the brain behind world domination via money and the powers that be. And while DC is the poster child for the beast - London is its belly and its brain. That's why higher minds call London the belly of the beast.

lol,oh goodness poster child? I hear you.

CyberWolf:
That is the same thing we are saying. This leaders from south has been there all this while, what did they do? Isn't it obvious that they are reluctant about solving this problem. But Falana wants you to go suck the balls of the leaders begging them to solve this problem.

The earlier we start protecting ourselves from this people by attacking them head long both verbally and physically, the better for all of. At least the only language our leaders understands is violence..

the problem with them the Fulanis, they are just like Lagos area boys,they are cowards they don't have a place you can pin point them, they are nomads they hit you and they run,they can come for you in the middle of the Night and run away because you and your family are station in a location, it is left for us to push the Government not even the FG those once will not do anything but the state can empower the people enact laws that will stop this menaces.

Shymm3x:
Brev, crippling them financially won't stop a nomad from being a nomad. Conversely, you'll just make them more desperate.

Also, there are always other markets for beef, hide and skin et al around the world. So if you provide an alternative to them - that won't stop them from taking their cows to ya region. And you and I know what happens whenever they come visiting.

hide and skin ke,Nigerians wont allow tannery industry to thrive with their love for pomo,yes it will make them more desperate but once that is taken care off and they find it harder to sell their cows it's a firm of restriction,the state government can enact laws banning unrestricted animal breeding impound their herd of cattle anytime they enter the border of any southern states,the earlier our various house if assembly enact laws like this the better,am aware Lagos state has a law in this form also a state in the SE.

Shymm3x:
Tilapia, now you're acting like you missed ya daily dosage of propofol and Chlorpromazine.

Better tell ya fellow insolent Yoruba skets in naij that nyggahs in London are different from the ones they're accustomed to in naij who beg for pum. We're brash, swear a lot, dismissive, and aggressive cos of how fast paced life in the big city of dreams and belly of the beast is. We just don't give a fvck and we swear a lot just like ethnic Brits.

Don't worry - I owe you a pint of cider.

are you in New York, guy the real belly if the beast is in Naija oooo.

CyberWolf:
Falana us simply regurgitating the age long rants that we've been hearing..That the Yoruba leaders should compel the ruling class to do this and that bla bla bla..Is he telling me that the ruling class are not seeing the way this herdsmen are going about killing and maiming people with reckless abandon? This problem had been there for years, what has the government done about it? You guys are simply blabbing here just because no member of your family has ever fall victim of this murderers. But one day it will happen let me see what your reaction will be.

we don't need to wish ourselves bad or evil to fall on us,have travelled far and wide in this country and I can say one or two things about each region, the Fulanis are a problem in many states especially the middle belt, I doubt if a fulani man will take his cows to a northerners farm,we had two southerners at the highest level over the 16yrs of PDP rule, what did they do about this Fulani people? I think Falana has a point but I think SW business men should take the opportunity to fill in the void and create ranch which will create employment in turn.

Shymm3x:
But how will crippling their business stop them from killing innocent people?

Even if you rear your own cows in ya ranches, that won't stop them from their normadic lifestyle and it definitely won't stop them from destroying farmlands and killing people. You basically just took care of the business side of it without tackling the problem itself.

one of the best way to defeat your enemy is to cripple him financially, History has taught us that, we at the SW are at disadvantaged to be honest we rely heavily on food from the North, that was not the case even in the early Eighties, in my house when I was little we had a garden, anytime we want to cook we just go there and get tomatoes and pepper, we had cocoyam and others it's only onions we don't have, now how many households have this? My family house was in Surulere lagos.Once that front is taken care off simultaneously our leader do not need a general meeting, just encourage OPC men against the Fulanis clandestinely,those Fulanis will know it's a no go area for them.

Shymm3x:
Don't mind these fools. Most of them are so carried away by Igbos that they've lost their minds. Admittedly, Igbos are covetous, greedy, and problematic (I know you're Igbo) and there should be a next front to tackle Igbo problems. However, when there's loss of innocent lives - no alliance is greater than protecting those lives. At least, Igbo aren't killing, raping, maiming, and destroying the means of livelihood of Yoruba folks. That's the Fulani - the same Fulani that turned Afonja into a fool. And the same ones Yorubas have been engaged in war about territorial integrity with since the 19th century. So whenever Fulani problem arises - you just can't turn a blind eye to it cos these folks will always have an agenda. Nothing can tell you more about the Yoruba and Fulani relationship than history. History will always repeat itself.

Also, why should Yorubas be the ones to provide ranches for Fulanis? Don't they have leaders and elites to do that for them up North? Isn't the president of the country a Fulani man? They need to solve their own problems and stop killing innocent folks everywhere. There are cattle herders in landlocked countries on the desert like Niger and Chad - so there's no excuse whatsoever for disturbing those down South with their cows. They should travel to those countries and study how they rear their cows on the desert and implement the same thing in Northern Nigeria. Period.

This man is an educated idiot!

I want to believe you don't understand what the man said,he never said SW should provide ranch or grazing fields or whatever they want to call it,he is simply asking governors in SW to build ranches which I think is the business of private sector, our rich men in SW can go into this thereby cripple the economy of the Fulani men, once we stop buying from them.He made mention of the fact that SW SS an SE were against any form of grazing route in the southern part of Nigeria when the issue came up, that it should be restricted to the North.

CyberWolf:
Yes I'm a proud Igbo and I agree that we are greedy and highly ambitious but the truth is that no Igbo man will support in anyway the maiming and killing of any Igbo man by his fellow Igbo talk more of non-Igbo especially Hausa/Fulani..But it's shocking seeing a respected Yoruba like Falana spewing this thrash. My position has always been let every state make laws banning this style of cattle business. If you must rear your cow in our state, buy a land from anybody willing to sell, build your cattle ranch there and pay tax to the state government the way other business establishments does. The more we continue shying away from tackling simple problems like this, the more it keeps deteriorating and innocent people keep dying..

seems you don't understand what Falana is saying, he didn't support the kidnapping he went for the root cause of the whole situation if we stop buying from the fulani men the business of cattle rearing will not be lucrative anymore, they will be forced to change their ways, rather than resort to illegality he only prof er a legal and lucrative way out of the situation.

caprini1:
Managing cows no be beans o....in as much as some Fulani herdsman are naughty ,I give them thumbs up in cow herding.

the method the fulani men are using is archaic, people have ranches all over the world, New Zealand has more livestock than its citizens, its not rocket science please.

Brilliant, the south west governors should wake up for God's sake, if the Fulanis can bring down their cattle here in the south that means we can have a ranch here too,btw I don't support government doing business but I think a lot of rich yoruba Nen and women should take this advantage and build a ranch, create employment in the villages and communities.

Right from the word go, buhari said no one will influence his ministerial nominees
So I don't believe this story

Check history, Igbos and Yorubas always get their backs inter marry,worship together and the worse is once they are out of Nigeria in a foreign place they can due for each other, and I just saw this today it was funny, but the only place they don't get along is politics.

searching4love:
THIS IS WHY WE ALWAYS OPPOSE IGBOS FROM ATTAINING LEADERSHIP POSITIONS IN THIS COUNTRY. SUNDAY OLISEH HAS NOT EVEN ATTAINED POLITICAL POWER YET BUT HIS ARROGANCE AND EGO HAS SCATTERED ALL THE UNITY OF THE TEAM

am yoruba but I must say you are very stupid, is Stephen keshi Hausa or Ijaw? 95% of the super eagles team that won the last AFCON were Igbos.

Rayhut:
Not everyone posting fact here are Igbo, we are telling you the fact, even some aworis protested last week in Lagos island of marginalization by the present government, Few years ago the king of Awori land declared openly that Aworis are not Yoruba, the same goes for Eguns. A Yoruba man cannot even here or understand Awori or Egun language. The Aworis, Egun and Ijaws are the original owners and ancient inhabitants of Lagos, Aworis and Egun migrated from Benin republic and Togo, Ijaws migrated through the waters from old eastern Nigeria, after Ijaw migrant came Yoruba migrants from the hinterland of of Ile ife,Ijebu,Egba land,Oyo and then Igbo migrants and others, so in all everybody living in Lagos is a migrants.

if awori man hear wetin you just talk now, he fit break your head,are you aware there are Yorubas in Benin republic? Same way you have them there you have the Eguns of Badagry.

Rayhut:
It is left for Aworis, Eguns and Ijaws which are the real owners of Lagos to work hard and produce the next governor instead of them to continue to allow immigrants from from Osun, Ogun, Ondo and Ekiti to continue to produce governor over them since 1999 in there Land.

eeeeeshiiii pls Ijaws no get anywhere for Lagos oooo,how come? Them.jump the Ilajes their Neighbours in Ondo,the Ijebus in Epe come get wetin? Please don't start this non sense please.

chukwudi44:
He is the true definition of change!! No more " bow and go" every ministerial nominee would be thoroughly screened !!! We cant afford to have ministers designing websites for N78 million or drilling boreholes for N139 million.!! Change is finally here!!

are u aware Dino said the petition is dead on arrival? Rotimi came from new PDP y don't expect saraki to stand against him,everyone warned Gej to keep Pej in check you don't allow your wife to disgrace your padi no matter how high or richer you are in public it's just as good as she disrespecting you,c you see what she did the Dickson, most of the PDP guys excerpt those who took the advantage of the feuds in Rivers does not have problem with Rotimi.

Chosen1984:
APC is a complete Home of Commotion!! Meanwhile see madam ! Apc: Every body Lamenting

Oga go and rest please,the woman is not looking for a Job,if PMB had out her name there am very sure you will be one of the people that will cry to the heavens saying baba is favouring BBOG group members.besides that's not the final list.

Stolen:
Mrs Deziani Alison-Madueke has already been judge guilty by the BBC before a trial date is set.


The professional incompetence callously exhibited by Journalist today calls for stricter measure of accountability.


How can a BBC Jouranlist be this uncouth?

what exactly is uncouth from what the journalist wrote? I can't see anything there,he is just reporting the event as it unfolds.

SirWere:
From my survey of the 3 major tribes (hehehehehe) this is my conclusion.
Note - This is a rating of the AVERAGE person, subjects were studied at a club, movie theater and Church.

Yoruba Girls -
Face: 5/10
Asset: 7.5/10
Attitude: 6.5/10
Elasticity of heart : 2 to 3 months

Ibo Girl -
Face : 8/10
Asset : 3.5/10
Attitude : wildly varies but average is about 5.1/10
Elasticity of hearts : 1.5 to 3 months

Hausa/Fulani girls:
Unfortunately, we couldn't find much suitable prospects so our projections are based on only 5 girls
Face - 3.1/10
Assets- 6.5/10
Attitude : Unknown
Elasticity of heart : 6 to 8 months

Delta girls :
Face - 9/10
Assets - 7.5/10
Attitude - 2/10
Elasticity of hearts : Most varied from 2 weeks to 6 months buh the average is about 2 months.


Elasticity of hearts : How quickly they bounce back after a break up.

funny I tend to agree with your assessment, av dated all the major tribes and some minority ones, i need to say this girls from Akwa Ibom are the best to give you rest of mind.

They should look for better ways for paying for goods and services, also companies should start doing R&D in Nigeria to source for raw materials and let the money stay in Nigeria pls.

Most of the slogans should be changed, e.g Borno and Niger Lagos state produce more power than Niger.

You guys should work out your use of words for God's sake, which one is "storm"? What happened to the word visit? Did she entered the radio station with rage or with thugs?
I am tired of NLs using Checkout,See,see how.

Unclerukus:
Not everybody like consoles, besides some mobile games are just good enough if you don't have too much spare time. I can't remember the last time I played my Xbox because of time.

if mobile games are at par with consoles,let them stop selling it and face mobile solely, the consoles are not cheap.

Na wa ooo, well nothing like playing d game on your console

Kingsasian:
Police killing innocent civilians indiscriminately and now they the Police are reaping what they sowed.

please Oga, when police are doing well let's commend them when they are not let's condemn them? Wish the gallant officer speedy recovery, atleast two out of the four men gang were captured.

frenchpharaoh1:
You're a tribalistic chauvnist!!
Who's talking about south and east here??
The news is fabricated.

do you have an idea what a chauvinist is? Yeah you can call me a tribalist it's your opinion and you are entitled to it.

frenchpharaoh1:
Am not Dickson suporter but this news is nothing to write home!
Fabricated rusty lies!!

is sun newspapers also SW media?

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