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@No2Atheism: Now I wish I never mentioned that Wiki article to Abuzola, ever since I did on one of my first posts on NL, he has clung tenaciously to it. LOL. Now, let me explain where Abuzola has missed the whole point. There can be two people called Barack Obama, but both of them are not the U.S. president. On the other hand, the fact that my name is Maven Box, child of Professor and Mrs Big Box, does not mean I am a sibling of Black Box, child of Mr and Dr. Mrs. Cardboard Box. Because we have the surname does not mean we are siblings! What I am saying is that the Arabic Christians refer to my God as Allah because that is the HUMAN WORD, translated in Arabic, for God. It does not mean that Allah is the same as allah the moon god. ![]() |
Wrote is a funny word to start a sentence with - but I am making an attempt - while trying to explain to Oyato that there are two words called Guy in English; one is a kind of stout rope, and the other is the common reference to a young man. ![]() |
Krayola you know I said you were a comedian? THAT part of my opinion has not changed!!! Sorry I'm unavailable. |
@everyone: And talking about death, the first time that word shows up in the Bible, God said "The day you eat of this fruit, you will surely die". He didnt say he would kill them. He said they would die. To DIE means to be separated from God. The physical expiration will come surely after that, sooner or later. Even Christ did not physically die until he was separated from God when he bore our sins on the cross, because it is impossible to be connected to God and die! It's like touching a high-tension cable with a conductor and you say current will not flow? Man's spirit is like a conductor of electricity, and when it is connected to the LIFE of God made available through Christ, power flows and death is removed. But Adam missed it, he was separated from God and he started dying. Nothing has changed today. When one is separated from God, they die. God does not kill them. Of course, there is the natural expiration, but here I believe we are concentrating on induced forms of death by a supernatural being. |
@ogaga: Sorry to burst your bubble, but only satanists have suicidal intents like hitting their heads on a rock. And I do not beg for forgiveness, it was done already roughly 2000 years ago. I respect God, and I respect the men and women that respect God. The others, like you and lucifer your boss, I have utter disrespect for you. Don't get mad, ok? I'm just telling you as it is. |
Okay, I know it's very long but I hope you have the patience to read through it all! I made up the whole fuzzy id and Liebermansch hypothesis, there is no such thing in existence. And that's why I had to spend so much time explaining my idea. I am not sure if this story will stay put here, or will be the first part of a series. Your comments may just help me make a choice! Cheers. |
Lizzy was at the bus stop, on a queue in the hot sun. Once again, she remembered what Deolu did to her and she was on fire, livid with anger. As usual as her anger, she could hardly see and her head was aching. She knew that if she didn’t get away from that place immediately, she’d kill someone or damage something. Chinedu. A picture of him flashed through her mind. After their hot argument last year, how he fell headlong into the well, with a little help from the strength of her own arms. She could still recall his wail as he fell. And how he became silent. Recalling this, her own heart suddenly became silent too. “You killed him”, she heard her own voice say. She looked back in fear, the voice was so audible. Turning round again, her eyes met the cold eyes of the guy who appeared in her front. He could read her mind. Everything. And he was still wearing that same red T-shirt and brown jean trousers he wore last year. Chinedu was ready to tell everyone of her guilt. Then fear took over her mind. She had to run away again. Somewhere. No one had to know. “See this girl o!” screamed a mechanic in black overalls as he dove and yanked her off the road in the nick of time. She had narrowly missed being crushed by the jagged KAI (Kick Against Indiscipline) vehicle as it arrived out of the blues, swerving like the road maniac. Their mission was to arrest traders on the highway, a practise banned by the state government. The traders were usually wary of them, but a new KAI “second-wave” strategy had been developed: a vehicle would cause the usual disturbance and after everyone had scuttled and were settling back in, another vehicle would suddenly appear and take advantageous control of the unstable position. In the pandemonium as traders fled with as many goods as they could hoist, she bit the stranger hard in the shoulder and tore off as he yelped and cursed, twisting in agony. She ran across the road and flagged down a taxi. It was a posh taxi, the windows were wound and the insides were well air-conditioned. As she leaped into the taxi and jammed the door, she looked across the road and saw that Chinedu - or his apparition - was no longer there. Sighing in relief, she caught her breath and suddenly realized that the taxi driver never asked for her destination. She looked at the driver in the rear-view mirror. He was still wearing the same faded red shirt and brown jean trousers, but now he had dark sunglasses. As she screamed at the top of her voice, she heard him say “We need to talk. We’ll go somewhere really quiet, ” Then he pulled on a nose-mask and tossed an exhaling canister in the backseat. Spluttering and covering her nose as she tried to talk, Lizzy inhaled the fumes and passed out. When she recovered from her fainting spell, she was seated in a very large deep blue couch with feather cushions. For a bachelor, this guy surely had some taste. Some few feet away, Chinedu, in his faded red T-shirt and dirty brown jeans, was sitting on a wooden chair, right beside a table that was rather untidy – but not untidy enough to reveal the fact that if she tried anything funny he could reach for the abandoned knife, the screwdriver, an odd-looking stick that could pass for a club, and whatever else was concealed on the table in the midst of heavy books and remnants of a bachelor’s breakfast. On the other hand, her own soft seat made it impossible to spring into action, she would just be much too clumsy. As she took in the environment, she averted his eyes. Until, having decided that there was no better option, she looked at him. He was staring at her, as solemn as he always used to whenever he was about to assume the wussie mode and declare his undying love for her. But only the living ones love, Lizzy concluded. Chinedu was sipping some strawberry juice from a tall glass tumbler, and his lips, tongue and teeth were blood-red, as if his mere post-mortem existence was not grotesque enough. That was when she noticed the neatly-folded straight-jacket and the tranquilizer set on the rug right beside him. He was too intelligent and street-smart for his own good. “I need to use the silent room”, she said, smiling away to conceal her furiously thumping heart. With a wave of his left hand, Chinedu indicated that the lavatory was right behind her. She grunted thanks and walked slowly to the commode, her mind running in circles as she schemed. After finding out that there was no window in the room, all the fittings were made of fine glass and uninterrupted ceramics, the door was a solid wooden piece and no metal piece was in sight, she dug her hands in her hair. Of course, her hairpin was missing too. She couldn’t commit suicide, let alone defend herself. So she flushed the can, washed her hands, braced herself for the worst; and looked in the mirror. Then she noticed that her own mouth was also stained with the same red color. She did not know for sure if she had been drugged. She swore in an Igbo dialect and accent and returned to the lounge. “I am certain that you have many questions. I am ready to begin answering them”, declared her captor. “Where am I?”, she asked, looking around. “Brilliant. That is a question you ought to have asked roughly a year ago, shortly after the time you killed me.”, he replied in his usual condescending and didactic manner; one of the very things that had annoyed Lizzy and made her push him down the well that day. He stopped for effect before continuing his lecture and sipped from the glass with an affected drool, then displayed his blood-red teeth as he nodded and advertised, saying “This is very good stuff”. He belched. “You are in a complex tangle right now. The human nature is rather complicated, actually. For instance, in psychoanalysis, there are defined theories about the human id. It is the sum of the primitive instincts and energies underlying all the psychic activity of a human being. A certain Liebermansch hypothesis states that this id is not made of random instincts as we often believe, but rather it draws from a bank of experiences of a fuzzy id that is linked to the particular human being. This is why many have believed in reincarnation (as false as it is), and it also accounts for the common déjà vu in which one thinks their present situation has occurred before. Oh, yes it has.” As it happened once in a while, Chinedu was talking over her head, and Lizzy looked more confused. But she was also very intelligent, and that was one of the things that had brought them together years ago. So he explained further in order to let her apprehend the meaning. “Our each and every action, inaction, choice and decision generates a new path for our lives every moment. Within an hour, for example, in one person, millions of such paths are generated but only one is attained by the prime id, which is the id of the person on the particular path we are focusing on. For each of the other paths, a fuzzy id of the person progresses along the path, generating more fuzzy ids as it continues. The fuzzy id is like a surrogate , it carries the alternatives to the prime id’s selection and continues with it, acquiring knowledge and accumulating energy until a critical point is reached. This so-called critical point is a place where one or more paths intersect.” “What this means is that at these critical points, one may willingly or mistakenly derail from a path and enter another path. Of course, the knowledge acquired and the energy accumulated will not balance out across all the paths, but the variation will afford similar opportunities. And then the human being ignorantly declares déjà vu or reincarnation, thinking an abstruse thing has occurred. But it’s not so, one or more of their fuzzy ids has gone through the experience before and at that time the prime id is exchanging information with each fuzzy id.” “So is this a kind of alternate future then, in which you are not dead?” asked Lizzy. “I was just coming to that part, Elizabeth. There is a strong link between human emotion, conscience and rational logic. As a result, over time, each particular fuzzy id has specialized in a particular emotion, is as objective as its gradually developed conscience, and as such makes decisions based on the attendant logic. At the critical points, the human being makes a choice and the newly elected prime id forces all the fuzzy ids into relegation for the moment. In rare cases, a chance of one in five billion, a renegade fuzzy id refuses to be forced into the background, and it usurps the prime id. Then the human being appears to be a one-track identity with a particular strong unquenchable emotion, the emotion’s associated conscience, and all the rational logic the conscience requires to operate.” “In your case, Lizzy, your rage took over when we were at the well. You decided not to push me over into the well, but you have a fuzzy id that had grown very strong from murderous and evil thoughts that you had wallowed in since childhood without carrying them out. Your RAGE fuzzy id was stronger than your prime id, so after you made the choice, the fuzzy id derailed the path and usurped the prime id. If you think back, you will see that from that point, you have never been able to control your anger any longer. Think about all your victims…” Lizzy could remember. She had killed her neighbours, poisoned the whole family, by injecting a colourless hysoscyamine in the toothpaste tube when she visited their bathroom - and all because she hated the heavy-metal rock music they indulged in every evening. Most of the others were men. Twice, late in the night, she had snapped some taxi drivers’ neck from the backseat, killing them because she felt they were chauvinists and she was being cheated on the cab fare. She had killed a former colleague by applying a poisonous powder to a book she borrowed from him, because he pinched her bum, denied it and refused to apologize – the same fingers killed him, for he was known to lick his fingers before turning any book’s pages. Then there was the Satyr, the ugly old man plaguing her with his many intimate innuendos: he relentlessly wanted a bit of the action so she visited him and simply suffocated him with his heavy pillow. She got some scratches, but fortunately the Nigerian Police were too short-sighted to make proper enquiries concerning the flesh under the dead man’s fingernails. And the annoying young man she drowned at the beach for staring too hard, being too cocky and over-assuming – he couldn’t even really swim and while he was trying to prove a point, she mistakenly tipped him over the edge into the deep end and screamed for help from the distant lifeguard. And there were so many others after them, she had lost count. The last attempt was that morning, when Deolu, her new 2-day old boyfriend, laughed in her face. He had refused to sign the huge cheque as she demanded, so in her rage she held his own silenced pistol to his head and threatened to blast his head off - only for him to laugh and tell her that he had suspected her from the start, so he had emptied the gun’s barrel the night she arrived. She had fled the place, scheming how to get back at him when she saw Chinedu again, for the hundredth time at least in less than a week. Chinedu. He was sipping a strawberry drink. There was no way in hell he could be dead, she thought. “So why do I keep seeing you everywhere if you are not dead?” Lizzy asked. “Simple. Your rebellious enraged fuzzy id is trying to add credence to the fact that you killed me and I am now a ghost haunting you. When that fact is embedded fully in your subconscious, your prime id will be fully erased. But my murder by you is not true, in the true nature of truth because it happened in another variation, another version of life. This person that I am speaking to, i.e. yourself, is not the real Lizzy. Your experience has been affected by the enraged id. The real Lizzy is lost somewhere out there, and I am here to help you reconnect at the next critical point, which should be in a matter of some minutes. We can force a critical point by staging something that involves important decisions for you to make, Elizabeth.” “How do you intend to do this, and what if I refuse?”, queried Lizzy. “You will close your eyes, I will describe a serene scenery on an Island and you will make decisions about the things you observe and experience on the island. It is a very painless process. It will be better if you do not refuse, because I want the best for you, even though in your mind you attempted to kill me last year, but I have forgiven you!” “You know I love you Chinedu, and I would never have harmed you. Only one thing is still confusing to me. How did you know all of this? Are you not a skilled accountant? How is it that you have a straight-jacket and tranquilizer set and you know so much about psychoanalysis?” Chinedu laughed a long and hearty laughter. “Do you not truly understand that simple point? Just like this is a fuzzy id of yours sitting before me, this is also a fuzzy id of mine that I learnt from at the same critical point where your rogue id usurped the prime id beside the well. This very fuzzy id of mine never studied Accountancy, but is a doctor with summa c:um laude distinctions in psychiatry! Your rogue id caused it, but even I would gladly return to Accountancy!” Once again, she looked at the straight-jacket and the tranquilizer set on the floor beside Chinedu. Then she saw that the room had only one exit asides the dead-end lavatory behind her, and that exit was far from her own end. The other window was overlooking a large water body, and it was beside Chinedu’s table. There was simply no escape route. She shrugged and sighed. She indicated that she was disturbingly pressed and once again she went to the lavatory. After many minutes of an intermittent retching sound as she vomited, she flushed the can and returned. She looked sober and dejected. “Okay, I’m game. You may continue. Let’s do this and get it over with”, she said. With joy in his twinkling eyes, Chinedu excused himself and stepped out of the room through the exit. “How did it go?” queried Chinedu as he, Lizzy’s parents and the make-up artist rose to see Dr. Okafor, the renown psychiatrist. “She bought the whole theory; hook line and sinker, and I have somewhat explained to her that inasmuch as she didn’t kill me, or rather, Chinedu, she had other victims. She’s a tough one, and my methods have not been so procedural, but I know that in some hours she will be very much better. And in some few days at this rate, Elizabeth will be back in your loving arms.” Elizabeth, daughter of a wealthy and influential Nigerian businessman, had snapped in her mind – she developed a mental illness while arguing with Chinedu, her boyfriend, beside the well in Chinedu’s compound roughly a year earlier. Right after she lost it, she was so certain that she had killed Chinedu by pushing him down the well. Chinedu communicating with her only made things worse because she would misconstrue it as a visitation from a ghost. She had written notes about it, and told everyone about it, until after some days she kept quiet and eventually turned into a passionate serial killer while her concerned family trailed her at a distance. She had been captured a number of times and committed to an institution or the other but she kept outsmarting the psychiatrists, evading treatment and escaping again. At least until now. “Was the make-up adequate?”, asked the anxious professional make-up artist. “Not to worry, at the extent of Lizzy’s delusions, anyone with Chinedu’s build, clothes, and a similar pedantic deep voice will accurately pass for him.”, replied the psychiatrist. "Her supposed guilt makes her want to recognize him easily". “Thank you, doctor. You were our last hope. Now I am glad we didn’t fly her all the way from Nigeria to the States for nothing!”, said Lizzy’s father as he hugged the softly sobbing and Lizzy's younger sister. “It’s really nothing; it’s all in a day’s work. We’re still at a slippery point, so I need to resume right away.” But as he stepped back into the room, he found the window open and the wind was gloriously rushing into the empty room. There was a note on the table, weighted down by the half-empty glass of strawberry juice and scrawled onto scrolls of tissue paper with post-emesis (vomited) strawberry juice. “Nice. You almost had me fooled there, but my IQ is way higher than yours. The guy I saw on the bus queue looked very much like Chinedu, I was sincerely scared. Then I ran across the road, flagged down the taxi and was shocked to see him again, so I screamed. With a big difference - when he opened his mouth to speak. The driver’s mouth stank like rotten raw fish. I was about to figure it all out when he gassed me.(c) Mavenbox December 3rd, 2009
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@Ogaga: I have visited your pages on myspace, facebook and other networks. I must say that you sound very very confused, but there's still hope for you too. Hang in there, |
*Tears* I started reading this thread with joy but I can see it has started getting derailed already. *Sigh* @Krayola: Sorry I flared up last time we talked. I was quite new to NL then but now I have observed you (okay, stalked you) in silence for a while and I think you are a great guy who just likes to act too tough for his own good. Can we make some peace? |
@OP: Should I believe all these pictures, even with the CORBIS watermark? Corbis is a digital stock photography collection, so how is it that you know its Port-Harcourt, trans-Amadi? Interesting post anyway, you got our attention. |
Guy is a kind of rope that a desperate, depressed guy can hang himself with |
@wirinet: Ever since you became an atheist, how many tangible answers to your numerous questions about life have you garnered? Let me answer for you: very few, and they are at best unfounded speculations based on some physically available evidence. So for once, I have to agree with AIO. Most atheists do not have answers in themselves, they spend most of their time bringing down religion. They do not have the same answers that they keep claiming that followers of religion do not possess. |
@wirinet, and when you are ready to reply, please reply to the OTHER sources as well. I wonder why you are stating the obvious. I already said that Flavius was controversial so why are you flogging a dead horse? ![]() Flavius Josephus is the most famous Jewish historian. In his Antiquities he refers to James, “the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ.” [size=18pt]There is a controversial verse (18:3) [/size]that says, “Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man. For he was one who wrought surprising feats, He was [the] Christ, he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him.”Please leave the controversial point and address something else. *yawn* Clutch at another straw, |
@atheists: Yes! God uses ANYTHING to his advantage. It's like saying that Pablo Picasso is painting a masterpiece and some colors just dont feel right, he can use ANY paint anywhere he wants. We would still love the art, it would still be a masterpiece. Nothing, i repeat, nothing, takes my God by surprise. He uses anything whatsoever to the advantage of his own will. That is why He is God. If there were anything He couldn't utilize to his advantage, that thing would be God, then. @wirinet: You may also need to study the logical premise of what happened to Job to understand this "cold vs heat", "light vs darkness", "life of God vs. death in the world", in the light of the fact that Satan is the god of this world: the god of the sensory realms where people taste, see, touch, smell, hear, eat, drink and die. Think about it. I repeat, God does not kill. He is the judge, and everyone gets what they deserve from the executioners. Most times, that executioner is directly or indirectly the devil. But some day, the executioner will be Christ himself, the WORD of God. And on THAT day, Lucifer will be eternally destroyed with all his followers. |
@wirinet: Did you read what I wrote at all? God does not kill. That is a dirty job that satan does, although God can use the circumstance of satan's killing to his own advantage.I repeat: God does not kill. People die when they "step outside" God. Anything "outside God" is either controlled by lucifer, or is just floating by like a passive entity, waiting to be used by either party. Death exists outside life, i.e. outside God. So, when one steps outside God, they may be lucky to evade death for a temporary while, or they may experience it instantly. E.g. A very classic example 2Sa 24:1 AGAIN THE anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel, and He moved David against them, saying, Go, number Israel and Judah. 1Ch 21:1 SATAN [an adversary] stood up against Israel and stirred up David to number Israel. is just an example of a scripture that people think is a contradiction in the Bible. No! Rather, David, in pride, counted the hosts of Israel, and God did not like the idea because the strength of Israel was in their God and not in numbers. He doubted God's power in so doing, so God was angry with him. In that little moment when David THOUGHT in his heart to number Israel (thus invoking God's anger), God's anger was kindled against him and David thus gave satan, the ADVERSARY, the chance to stand up against Israel (i.e. he sought an undeniable opportunity, just like he did with Job. I guess that kind of stuff happens almost automatically, like a hacker who is waiting for a backdoor on a computer network so that he can exploit vulnerabilities, satan keeps roaming to and fro the earth, seeking whom to devour, seeking who he can deal with because they are out of protection. Man is satan's greatest enemy, borne out of hatred, never be deceived.) and Satan actually made him do the counting. Meanwhile, David knows himself that he was the one who had the initial idea of the count, and not satan or God 1Ch 21:17 And David said to God, Is it not I who commanded the people to be numbered? It is I who has sinned and done evil indeed; but as for these sheep, what have they done? Let Your hand, I pray You, O Lord my God, be on me and on my father's house, but not on Your people, that they should be plagued. Do you know what an adversary means? It is someone who offers opposition to a cause. What that means is that when someone slips out of God's will, the adversary, like a tattle-tale, will report the matter to God, the sovereign judge: saying "So so and so did this" and as a matter of justice, God will need to hand out judgment. The judgment may be meted out by plant, animal, man, angel or even a non-living thing. In the case of Sodom and Gomorrah, nature itself responded to the call of justice with fire and earthquakes. Saying that God kills is like saying that a Supreme Judge kills criminals? Duh, He passes judgment! The dirty work of the killing is left to whoever the firing squad or executioner is. The judge just makes sure that the right thing is done. God sent his Son Jesus so that there will no longer be an opportunity for the devil to accuse people (at least as many as believe in him). This is because whenever someone sins and calls on Jesus, Jesus steps in and wins the case rather than the adversary because the CONTRACT between Christ and the person is that he would remember their sins no more. Whenever the adversary accuses someone of something wrong they did and they deserve death, God shakes his head and points to Jesus, who already died rather than the person. Objection overrulled! 1Jn 2:1 MY LITTLE children, I write you these things so that you may not violate God's law and sin. But if anyone should sin, we have an Advocate (One Who will intercede for us) with the Father--[it is] Jesus Christ [the all] righteous [upright, just, Who conforms to the Father's will in every purpose, thought, and action]. I can only hope you read what I wrote, and understand, without any bias. 'Cos i hardly have time for very long posts nowadays. |
@wirinet: for once you disappoint me. I used to see you as someone who does accurate background research before making posts on Nairaland. The Man who is NOW called Jesus Christ, who is the Son of God, came as the Son of Man, and there is evidence of his existence, even by non-Christian historians and authors. I am too lazy to type a lot right now cos I am busy but I will copy and paste from a site that summarizes my voluminous pages about the HISTORICITY of JESUS, which, fortunately is a course I took in theological school. It deals with the authenticity of Christ's existence as the Son of Man, as the Last Adam and the Second Man, in HUMAN FLESH. http://www.gotquestions.org/did-Jesus-exist.htmlAnd if you think the article above was biased, read from Wikipedia, the world's most comprehensive growing encyclopaedia (by common belief and acceptance) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_JesusThe Wikipedia article is by far very comprehensive, but if you still want me to post from my personal notes, i will return to do that when I have some time to waste. |
@DeepSight: LOL You are funny! |
@Viaro: Hey been looking for you to tell you that it's all okay, and Im sorry for flaring up that day. Friends again? @Topic: No comment. |
Oh my WORD! Im laughing so hard I actually began coughing!! This thread cuts across NL Gaming threads, the comedy section, the dating section (the ones I refer to, know themselves, LOL) and religion! And this is the first thread where active posters on the Religion threads actually AGREED about a number of things! JeSoul, I have to give it to you, you are a genius!!! |
@Abuzola- Did you know that as you were busy having Eid-el-whatever it was some days ago, there were Ifa priests worshipping somewhere in Ogun state, Nigeria? So does that mean you were worshipping the same god? Just maybe, ![]() When will you guys get it? You keep looking at the moon searching for dates, but dates are rather trivial, after all, time will soon cease to exist. It was once not in existence anyway. |
Joh 10:10 A thief is only there to steal and kill and destroy. I came so they can have real and eternal life, more and better life than they ever dreamed of.God does not kill. That is a dirty job that satan does, although God can use the circumstance of satan's killing to his own advantage. Let me ask you, Ogaga, as I have done before although you skilfully evaded the question: Does darkness exist? Does cold exist? The answer is no. Darkness is the result of the absence of light. Cold is a result of the absence of heat. We study light, we study heat. We can't study cold, we can't observe darkness. Whenever man or any part of creation raises its head against God in rebellion, it is like a spiritual bloodless COUP: God's sovereignty is not acknowledged so the devil is allowed to claim it as his territory, and then he does whatever he wants there, which often involves killing. Then people will start screaming that God killed people. God does not kill people. Rather, God, in his love, has through time always showed men how to do things so that they don't fall on the wrong side (like the darkness side of light, or the cold side of heat) and get killed, oppressed or destroyed by the devil. Man never got it right, so God sent His OWN Son as a lasting solution to the problem. Now you may make references to wars and Israel's conquests: but isn't it clear that it was necessary for Israel's survival in those early days? The devil was trying to snuff Israel using its enemies so that by the time Israel ceased to exist, the prophecy of Jesus' Birth would never come to pass. It was attack - the best form of defense. And God did not do any killing in that case. The Israelites did, and the devil allowed the killing of the israelites' enemies: all the people he was meant to be protecting: people that were serving him diligently. On the contrary, God protects His word above His own name: When he promises protection by His covenant and you stay in the Covenant, nothing will happen to you. |
@Topic: Jesus may not have been born on December 25th. Personally, I give God thanks for the birth of Christ each and every day. Let me give you an illustration: when we celebrate the "dead soldier" on the Armed Forces Remembrance Day a.k.a Veterans day http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remembrance_Day on November 11th, and old Mrs Adamson remembers her father that died bravely defending his country during World War I, does that mean the man died on November 11th? In his family, each and every day they remember him, but ON THAT PARTICULAR DAY, the programme of events have been set aside to honour him @wirinet: I have read a lot about Easter and Christmas practices and pagan similitudes and origins thanks to the early Roman Catholic Church, but does it nullify the fact that Christ came? I guess if I was a historian in Christ's day, I may have taken extra effort to document the exact day but since I was not; I am content with the fact that he came. The date is rather trivial, sorry. |
@Uplawal: uplawal: Mat 5:43 You have heard that it was said, You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy; [Lev. 19:18; Ps. 139:21, 22.]The quote above and your claims do not correlate with many things preached in Islam about the Keffir (Christians inclusive). If you truly obey Jesus, he is talking to you here: hear him: Joh 8:42 Jesus said to them, If God were your Father, you would love Me and respect Me and welcome Me gladly, for I proceeded (came forth) from God [out of His very presence]. I did not even come on My own authority or of My own accord (as self-appointed); but He sent Me.[/quote] |
Wow! I have been away for so long, but I have something to say on this thread: I have learnt that ALL the discussion and evidence presented cannot afford a change in anyone's heart. In fact, I have learnt not to argue but just present the truth and leave it at that. For instance, if I have a Black Mercedes Benz and you argue that it is a red Volkwagen Beetle, all I need to do is to show you the car. If you want to keep arguing, you can go ahead. One does not argue with the truth. I, below, present my reason for no longer arguing on NL religion threads: AMPLIFIEDAnd the verses that lead up to these three verses are interesting, too THE MESSAGEVoila. I have little more to say, except to explain what I meant. ![]() |
@yawa-ti-de: LMAO na so, my sister. I'm in tonight cos I am working on a project that is long overdue, I'm using CodeIgniter (a PHP framework I'm new to, just downloaded it few days ago) and it's giving me a slight headache (only interrupted by some NL posts. LOL). Got any pointers for me, boss? @Dual Core: Sorry I don't chat with strangers |
@Dual Core: I do the GIMP, Photoshop too but my Illustrator and Corel Draw skills are not too good. I do front-end dev in jQuery and CSS. The cole8 guy was more concerned with simplicity a-la Google, I would have done some interface work for him. |
^^^ LOL Sour grapes. |
@michelin89: I have to say this: Good job! I love your art. If you can afford a WACOM tablet, get one, it will make your work neater and more beautiful! ![]() |
Longus (I can see that you are very tall, in reality ) |


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