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Christianity Etc › Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by Maximus692(m): 3:03pm On Dec 13, 2022
ANTIlSLAM:
Bitter about which truth, grin to be exposing you is my joy.. ÀBÚRÒ ÌYÀWÓ BABALÁWO, Babalola never told his members to be patronizing traditional herbalists for healing and deliverance, your own religious founders and your colonial masters in USA mandated for you to always seek for healing from traditional herbalists that are custodian in money ritual, so who is now a true Christian between Babalola that wage spiritual war against traditional herbalists and the founders of your satanic religion, JWs that are dining and wining with babalawo, adahunse and onisegun?
"By their FRUITS you will know them" Matthew 7:16-18

You don't have to go far nah!

JWs use HERBS and ROOTS to treat themselves but CAC people condemns it yet their pastors are waging wars against themselves inside the church due to struggle for positions.

Ọmọ, Níyì Adédòkun is my good friend, senior and colleague in music. He knows CAC inside out, i think you need to listen to his album titled "Ṣọ́ọ̀ṣì wa ń mẹmu" where he sang about all the troubles going on in his church: CAC! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Wrote About The Death And Burial Of Moses In Deautoronomy Chapter 34? by Maximus692(m): 2:54pm On Dec 13, 2022
Truvelisback:
He could have done that before his death. Remember that he is a prophet. Prophets have the ability to see into the future.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, this is true!

Perhaps most people forgot the meaning of that title "PROPHET" if Moses could prophesy about Jesus who was born thousands of years later {Deuteronomy 18:15-18} is it his own death and burial that God has told him to tell the Israelites {Deuteronomy 3:27; 4:21} that will be impossible for Moses to pen down? smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by Maximus692(m): 2:43pm On Dec 13, 2022
ANTIlSLAM:
So na your occultist religious founders and your colonial masters in USA that are true Christians abi? Well I won't blame you na your slave boy ridicule Babalola to the extent of you calling him a fake Christian
There's no need to be bitter about the truth.

Joseph Ayo Babalola is not my relative neither do i know him in person but going by Jesus' words the tree with it's branches supposed to produce a unique kind of fruit. John 15:1-10

Before Jesus Christ all the prophets including John the baptist used to shout in the streets for everyone to hear them and that is because the God Israelites serve claimed to be their King {1Samuel 8:7} so like all other kings He (God) has the right to send town cries into their streets to inform or warn them.

But when Jesus wanted to establish Christianity he never followed that pattern of preaching {Matthew 12:19} WHY? Because Jesus is laying the foundation of a global campaign {Matthew 28:19-29; Act 1:8} so his own disciples mustn't disturb their neighbours with noise since the God they want to talk about is not the one ruling those places, they have to follow the custom of the place they found themselves and cautious as serpents and harmless as doves! Matthew 10:16

Joseph Ayo Babalola claimed he is an Apostle which equates him to Peter, Matthew, John and the rest but did he follow Jesus' pattern?

NO! Instead he followed the pattern of prophets before Jesus and since he doesn't know the theme of Jesus' preaching Babalola was preaching about power against witches and wizards due to the power he had back then.

That is why none of those following him can fully copy his pattern as the theme of his preaching later became useless in the society that has embraced spiritism (witchcraft) in it's entirety. Today if anyone wants to preach in CAC they only join other religions in whatever is common not Jesus' theme (God's Kingdom) nor Babalola's theme (power again witchcraft)

So he was never a Christian! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by Maximus692(m): 11:06am On Dec 13, 2022
Aemmyjah:
You made me laugh when you said gullible people. I have heard many stories about him and thought he was a Yoruba legend
I wonder why their clergymen wear white gown with black eyeglasses. Abi it is because they see too many visions?
Of course Babalola was a Yoruba legend like Sàngó, Àfọ̀njá, Ògúnmọ́lá and many others due to his powers to perform signs but then anyone who wants to tap from his anointing must remember that it's not the same God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob that Babalola worked with so you must specifically address his god by saying the "God of Joseph. Ayọ Babalola" otherwise another demon may suffice. But what his followers failed to realize is that the demon had a covenant with him before giving him that power so whoever is not ready to enter into a covenant with the demon is on his own! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by Maximus692(m): 10:58am On Dec 13, 2022
Aemmyjah:
He has denied that he is CAC
You guys should know his problem!

He's not against any of you for your faith in God but for being bonafide members of the world's most respected group of evangelizers when he can't present any group.

He is battle prepared to continue throwing insults at you even if you guys began singing forgiveness song in his ears! cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by Maximus692(m): 10:39am On Dec 13, 2022
ANTIlSLAM:
I said I will mention the name but first of all ask your slave boy cornelboy dat If Babalola was truly a prophet of God where can we find any of his fruit {those doing like him) today? He knew much about his church CAC
Of course Babalola wasn't a true Christian that is why his fruit {CAC members) aren't doing what he did.
Bible Study:

Jesus is the tree planted by Jehovah {John 15:1} his Apostles are the branches {John 15:5} but after his Apostles all other Christians are the fruit of that tree. So while the tree remains and the branches only the fruit is enjoyed by people far and near because they're the ones that's movable the tree and it's branches aren't movable literally. That's why Jesus never preached nor perform and sign outside Israel, he commanded the branches (Apostles) to remain in Jerusalem {Act 1:4} the only Apostle Jesus ordered to go outside Jerusalem is Paul {Act 9:15} so when talking about faith healing in Christianity it was never mentioned outside Israel because the tree (Jesus) and real branches (Apostles) had no direct business with those outside Israel {Matthew 10:6; 15:24} only Apostle Paul had was given that power to heal outside Israel because Jesus specifically chose Paul as another branch for the tree.

So no disciples (fruit) were given the power to perform faith healing outside Israel their own assignment is to continue spreading the teachings of the branches (Apostles) which they got from the tree (Jesus) Act 2:42

That is why Babalola the so called Apostle can never have any follower that will perform like him because Satan never chose him to bear fruit for Jesus rather he was given that power to deceive many {Matthew 24:11} and since the source of his power is against Jesus his fruit (followers) can't be active in the works of Jesus. You will notice that each time pastors of that church wants to make posters they will include Babalola's picture because they know that's the one given the power to draw gullible people into that church as for them they have nothing to preach or teach in order to gain souls. So they will put Babalola's picture as if the man is will be found alive in their churches!

What about Jehovah's Witnesses?

We know that Charles Taze Russell is not one of the Apostles so we don't anticipate faith healing, neither do we put his picture in our magazines or program because he's just one of Jesus' disciples that worked with him in the 20 century to restructure the group.
So the fruit which Jesus told us to look out for which is the incessant preaching and teaching globally is found among JWs not deceptive misleading faith healing ministry that's no longer active after the demise of your founder! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: God Does Not Deceive! by Maximus692(m): 8:21am On Dec 13, 2022
cornelboy:
Yes I have heard some Muslim say that in fact it's not just their opinion. It's backed by the Koran. Allah is clearly a deceiver.
Oh Cornelboy don spoil my show! embarassed

You for let him answer nah!

Perhaps he wasn't talking about his own Allah when he said:

"God does not deceive" smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by Maximus692(m): 8:17am On Dec 13, 2022
You're too much in a hurry! cheesy
Just mention the name and where he is on this forum the church will welcome a large crowd that will come with their (REAL) sick ones.

Do you think OLAADEGBU (Deeperlifer) and Righteousness (Lord Chosen) are just making noise all over these forum for fun?

Ọmọ they are advertising their churches hoping to welcome crowds so that their pastors can perform wonders there. And when you see atheists angrily criticizing churches it's because they've been scammed while going to either Deeperlife or Chosen program for miracles but end up coming back home with no personal testimonies as their own sick ones weren't cured.

So tell the forum and see how many are following our discussion silently! wink

ANTIlSLAM:
ÀBÚRÒ ÌYÀWÓ BABALÁWO, your slave boy cornelboy knw much about CAC, I think you should send your frustration to him. Your kingdom hall is nothing to write home about, imagine your slaves master and the founders of your satanic religion, JWs in conjunction with your elders advising you to always patronize traditional herbalists for healing and deliverance thereby teaching you to go against DIVINE HEALING.. Jor ma binu, are you different from those in OGBONI FRATERNITY?


Ask your slave boy cornelboy dat If Babalola was truly a prophet of God where can we find any of his fruit {those doing like him) today?

If I should tell you a name of his Pastor performing miracles, you will say he's using demonic power as your traditional herbalists are using satanic power to heal all your sicknesses and diseases
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was Muhammad Afraid Of The Judgement Day If He Was A True Prophet? by Maximus692(m): 5:51am On Dec 13, 2022
That was the first thing i read that struck my mind!

Just compare to what that Jewish young man said:

“All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth.Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things" Matthew 28:18-20

The highlighted is just too much abeg, that is what i call "CERTAINTY" undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by Maximus692(m): 5:43am On Dec 13, 2022
Aemmyjah:
CAC kor
CNN ni
It's good you could nme your church
I know the Church
After Jesus ousted demons in heaven in 1914 all those demons rushed to earth {Revelations 12:7-12} before that year it's difficult to hear of any religion where some prophet or priests are performing signs so where do all those 20 century prophets got their powers?
Well the Bible exposed them demons possessed many politicians and religious leaders {Revelations 16:14-16} that's why their churches is nothing to write home about today. Abeg go to CAC and see how their top pastors are fighting over headship even using juju to attack one another! Matthew 7:16-18

If Babalola was truly a prophet of God where can we find any of his fruit {those doing like him) today?
After all he's just a man and his God supposed to continue using pastors in that church to perform signs as expected by our friends here! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Maximus692(m): 5:21am On Dec 13, 2022
Aemmyjah:
The day michael jackson died, one of the Father of those boys claiming victim killed himself though there was a recording of him claiming to want to use that means to extort MJ

Today, the fastest way to tarnish the reputation of a person or organisation is to cook up stories of child abuse
Good morning my brother, have you received the dm?

Please when you read or hear of pedophilia in God's organization don't let it bother you because i have served where lot of secrets are hidden from the general public.
I remembered cases of parents who wanted to separate their little children from JWs but since maltreating a child in those countries is a crime they must find another way to prevent JWs from reaching your child with our teachings, here in Africa you can beat a hell out of the child and stand on your ground that you don't want him/her to have anything to do with JWs but over there it's not so.
That's why most parents do accuse JWs elders who show kindness to their children in order to obtain a warrant to distance them from their children. Why is such cases not happening here in Africa? Well it's because the parents have the right to whip their children unlike over there where the child can report such maltreatment.
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Wrote About The Death And Burial Of Moses In Deautoronomy Chapter 34? by Maximus692(m): 5:07am On Dec 13, 2022
Mickykarim:
MR. FOOLISH, FOR YOUR INFORMATION THERE ARE PEOPLE TODAY WHO DID NOT EDUCATE THEIR CHILDREN. ALLOW THAT SUMMISE YOUR VERY CRASS CRANIUM.
Should that bother your very tiny little brain?
RATHER, YOU ARE SUCH AN IGNORAMUS WITH VERY LITTLE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT LIFE AND HUMANITY.
The highlighted is true after all most people can't afford 2 dollar per day so how are they going to educate their children?
But not like a child born, bread and brought up by late Queen Elizabeth! wink
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Wrote About The Death And Burial Of Moses In Deautoronomy Chapter 34? by Maximus692(m): 5:03am On Dec 13, 2022
Mickykarim:
INCLUDING, HE ALSO WROTE ABOUT CREATION, SINCE HE WAS THERE WHEN IT BIRTHED.
Of course, God could have told him about it. Recall he came thousands or light years after creation.
He could not have written his post life, may have said it though. Just as Jesus Christ said and predicted whilst others wrote about it. He did not write anything about himself.
THERE IS A WALL OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WRITING AND TELLING AND OR FORETELING THINGS AND EVENTS.
Moses just happened to be a bold and willing Hebrew ready to fight for the release of his people {Exodus 2:11-12} and for this reason God chose him for the assignment but then he needs to be trained so as to become meek otherwise he himself will kill most of his own people when they exhibit their stupidity, that's why God allowed him to spend all his youthful vigor serving as a shepherd until he has acquired enough wisdom through shepherding for forty years before God declared that this former thug who killed and buried a man (alone) has now become the meekest of all the inhabitants of the earth at that time! Numbers 12:3

But as for Jesus that one is not a human from the beginning of his life, he was the first creature God made {Colossians 1:15; Proverbs 8:22; John 1:2} he worked with his father and God during the creation of other things {Colossians 1:16; Proverbs 8:30} that's why he could know so much before his own earthly birth because he existed as a mighty spirit being in heaven before then! John 8:23; 58

So you can't compare the two though Jesus is the only prophet that came in the manner of Moses {Deuteronomy 18:15-18} who served both as prophet and God in his lifetime {Exodus 7:1; John 1:1} but Jesus is far as in far greater than Moses a mere mortal descendant of Adam! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Wrote About The Death And Burial Of Moses In Deautoronomy Chapter 34? by Maximus692(m): 4:44am On Dec 13, 2022
Mickykarim:
A SIMPLE HARMLESS QUESTION JUST TURNED YOU INTO A REPULSIVE IDIOT. WHAT A SHAME.
Mr. IDIOT, if he could read and write Go would not have written the TEN COMMANDMENTS on a board. Would rather have hm write them.
Well for your information it's necessary that God write the first ten laws on stone tablets because there has never been any nation with over 600 laws on morals, virtues and hygiene.
Israelites will not believe that all those laws came from just one deity if there was no signature to confirm. So the first ten God wrote with His own finger on stone tablets suffice. smiley
Mickykarim:
I ASK AGAIN, WHICH SCHOOL DID HE GO TO LEARN TO WRITE ON A Torah? Since according to you, everybody who was in lived in palace back in the days of Pharoah must have learnt how to write and or read.
I MIGHT BE ABLE TO SELL YOU A GRAIN OF SAND FOR A FORTUNE.
You are such a buffoon!
Please what exactly do you think will come to your mind first if you have a child today?
Well back then the first sign that a child is born or brought up in a palace is the ability to READ and WRITE: LITERACY! Daniel 1:3-4
Let that sink into your empty skull! wink
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Wrote About The Death And Burial Of Moses In Deautoronomy Chapter 34? by Maximus692(m): 4:33am On Dec 13, 2022
uncleck:
It's understandable that events that predate human existence could be revealed to Moses. What I am trying to establish is the writer of those books. If it is Moses as popularly "known" how was he able to write things that took place after his own death?
Let's say you were opportuned to work as the secretary of a person whose words are certain then he told you that where you live presently will be demolished in six days time and ordered you to document it six days ahead of it's demolition, then send you on a mission a day after you documented it, is it possible for the next secretary to find out that you've already documented the demolition before it's done or not?

Well there are lots of secrets in this world i have heard of a journalist who was handed over two details about his own death, it's left for him to choose which of the two pleases him to happen after his demise. Of course he did because he knew it's certain that he will die that night the only power he had left is to determine whether he will be honoured after he's gone or not.

That's exactly what happened to Moses. God has told him that he will not cross the Jordan river {Deuteronomy 3:27; 4:21} so after he has documented his last writing God ordered him to go to his the place where he will be buried and there he died.

Joshua continues leading God's people and he was told by no other person but God Himself that Moses's assignment is completed so Joshua can now continue from where Moses stopped {Joshua 1:2} do you think Joshua will be surprised to find out that Moses himself has written about his own death and burial? smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Wrote About The Death And Burial Of Moses In Deautoronomy Chapter 34? by Maximus692(m): 4:11am On Dec 13, 2022
Mickykarim:
WHICH SCHOOL DID HE GO TO LEARN HOW TO WRITE?
Goes to show that he did not write any of it.
Before you criticize anything please try to use your brain a little because that's why it's there in your head abeg.
So you expect the Bible to tell you that a child bread and brought up as a prince {Exodus 2:10} in the palace of the world's most powerful king of that time must be educated, shey? undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Maximus692(m): 4:05am On Dec 13, 2022
jaephoenix:
Michael Jackson had overwhelming evidence against him
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/03/10-undeniable-facts-about-the-michael-jackson-sexual-abuse-allegations
And your Child Mol@ster group has many pedophilias which I posted
Do you know the difference between accused and convict? grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Maximus692(m): 11:37pm On Dec 12, 2022
jaephoenix:
Im not talking about social media stories. I'm talking news from several "credible" sources, of which people , including myself, have posted here. You can choose to bury your head in the sand
CREDIBLE indeed! cheesy

People that ignore direct killers who spend billions of dollars building, selling, buying and using destructive devices to wipe out their fellowman but carry unverified stories on their head to speak evil about the world's most peaceful and peaceloving group.

Ọmọ there are so many things science can't teach you but common sense can help you out! wink
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Maximus692(m): 11:20pm On Dec 12, 2022
Aemmyjah:
Dont mind the ignoramus
He argued that the earth is not a circle
He argues that dolphin is the most intelligent, even intelligent than him
He calls himself a doctor
He says animals observe hygiene and he says pigs are hygienic simply because of what he read that pigs don't poo around where they eat
He says animals have morals

We don't abuse our children.
How can people who don't go to war or fight cos of love for God and Man be molesting children? That deed will make us the most horrible than the most violent, corrupt group in the world
In the intelligence we hear so much that when leaked to the public people will start living in fear even of their so called rulers.

Do you know that during the lifetime of Michael Jackson lots of women accused him of molesting their children, in fact private investigators were contacted to unravel this mystery but apart from the accusations nothing was found not until Michael's death that all those women took to social media telling people that they only wanted money from Michael due to being a public figure.

So if they want to prove any point let them fish out JW pedophiles in their own neighbourhood not always coming to social media talking about places they've never been! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Maximus692(m): 9:41pm On Dec 12, 2022
jaephoenix:
Are your kids safe from other Child Mol@sters members?
You talk about what you don't know simply because you read stories on social media.
I know and it's logical that you are not safe in the midst of your fellow atheists because from their understanding you're just another APE.

So stop thinking what is not real nor logical at least you guys always talk of logic is their any logical reasoning behind people preaching virtue to be child molesters? wink
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Maximus692(m): 5:56pm On Dec 12, 2022
Aemmyjah:
Don't mind the ignoramus
He even calls himself a doctor
That joke alone can win a Grammy
Real atheists have brainwashed them totally making them walking corpse, because i don't know what exactly is the usefulness of the knowledge someone possesses that can't ensure his/her safety in the gathering of his colleagues! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Maximus692(m): 5:53pm On Dec 12, 2022
jaephoenix:
Lol. I can't even discuss science with you. You're the most un-science soul I have ever met
So you know anything about science from your own point of view shey?

Well in the land of the blind an eyed man rules! If you know science you won't discard knowledge that's pro-life just because you're carrying worthless stuffs about.
I know better than you in science because when talking about how to preserve life on this planet i will build a peaceful community with the knowledge i possess where love reigns among the dwellers while you aren't even sure of your safety in the midst of your own students! wink
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Maximus692(m): 5:32pm On Dec 12, 2022
Aemmyjah:
You're a fake doctor
Anyone who comes to you is suicide
I know you won't acknowledge the Bible. Darkness cannot embrace light. Can it?
Lol, you were the one that said animals also do hygiene. I expected you to show me link of an animal observing hygiene and that they have morals too
Monkey no fine but him family like am.

If a descendant of APE realize what hygiene is all about surely it will claim that his family members are doing well in that respect.
So ọmọ you can't convince an ape who knows how to talk that it's family aren't conscious hygienically! undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Atheists Attack Only Christianity. by Maximus692(m): 4:45pm On Dec 12, 2022
They feel insulted because only the so called Christians makes noise in their neighbourhood claiming they know a God that's coming to roast them alive forever and ever while the other religion only talk in their worship centers! undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Interesting Question For The Christians! by Maximus692(m): 4:32pm On Dec 12, 2022
He is not one of us so at death he died exactly the same way all flesh do but at resurrection he returned to his former life: angel with a materialized body with which he could relate with humans until he dematerialize that body and go back home!
Angels don't live by that routine system since the bodies they put on isn't real.
Christianity Etc › Re: Idols – What Are They? by Maximus692(m): 4:22pm On Dec 12, 2022
I'll send you a dm! smiley

Aemmyjah:
What happened to your main account?
I've not enjoyed this forum again cos of the bans
Sometimes, after 24 hours, you're banned again
It just makes the whole thing frustrating
Is there a way we could talk privately
I have something I want to share
Christianity Etc › Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by Maximus692(m): 4:20pm On Dec 12, 2022
ANTIlSLAM:
Your slave boy cornelboy said your own religious Jesus can't heals again, is that true?
Let me start with you from there wink
There's no need arguing aimlessly since you've opened up that everything we've been discussing for so long only led you to envy.
Surely you're not ready for the truth! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Idols – What Are They? by Maximus692(m): 2:57pm On Dec 12, 2022
Aemmyjah:
That guy does not even have sense
All apostates don't have sense.
Premium churchgoers are pitiable, atheists have no sense but apostates are senselessly pitiable.
Even if my bible is an idol na
Facebook too is an idol

As if we bow down to them, we use them to teach moral stories

Liars say we worship governing body
They say we worship our website
We worship Caleb and Sophia
We worship the watchtower and awake magazine
We worship the Watchtower organization

They are tormented cos their governing body and even their best religious and academic lecturers don't even come close
They are dying cos our website is known to millions including nonwitnesses
They have no children videos
They are dying that our magazines are the most distributed and translated in the world
They are dying that no other organization can bring about peace and unity and self sacrifice, spiritual, moral and mental cleanliness among her members

Same Temple333 that is asking questions about God and why there's wickedness
Same guy that says he wants to help me is waiting for his local branch to be established in Nigeria on Facebook so they can wail and cry in pain together and gnash teeth

For us, we are eating to satisfaction, they're dying of hunger
We are drinking
We are rejoicing at JEHOVAH'S wonderful works and teachings and his help
They have none

Good morning brother Max
The problem with none JWs is how they failed to differentiate between:
WORSHIP and OBEISANCE
Of course we do obeisance to Jesus and we are submissive to Governing Body, District overseers, Circuit overseers, elders and ministerial servants based on their office of oversight but our worship goes to only one person JEHOVAH!

Most translators rendered the word obeisance as worship so where submissiveness comes in they turned it to worship meaning instead of submission to Jesus, Apostles and elders in the congregation they try to separate Jesus for WORSHIP whereas all we need to do is obey Jesus since we know he's always on Jehovah's side, the Apostles as they're always Jesus' side, Circuit overseers like Paul as he's always on the side of the Apostles.

So when they see that we are orderly they don't know the secret hence they call us a CULT group! Matthew 10:25 smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Wrote About The Death And Burial Of Moses In Deautoronomy Chapter 34? by Maximus692(m): 8:17am On Dec 12, 2022
It was Moses himself! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by Maximus692(m): 8:15am On Dec 12, 2022
Oh now i get your message!

It's not that medicine is evil neither the use of herbs in treating illnesses a sin but we (JWs) are claiming we're the only group worshiping our own God.
OK if that's the issue let me tell you that it's not going to change no matter how bitter you feel, only one organization worships our own God and that's jw.org! smiley

ANTIlSLAM:
ÀBÚRÒ ÌYÀWÓ BABALÁWO, shey you get problem comprehending simple sentence nii, haba
Read this my post gently all over again abeg
In summary, we condemned you for condemning the hospital the saved your life.. Not all Churches has hospital or clinic, we have many Christians that don't believe in hospital or in any form of medicines except DIVINE HEALING THROUGH CHRIST JESUS but for you now against Divine healing while claiming the one and only true Christians in the universe is what I won't take from you as I will be exposing those people you called traditional herbalists you're running to for healing and deliverance..
When you were taken to scared heart hospital, do they prescribed or gave you traditional medicines? NO and I told you not all medicines were made or extracted from plants or roots .. Bobo see refute not to be brainwashed, thank your God that you met ANTIISLAM here on NL
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Jehovah Witnesses Reject Blood Transfusion But God Created Eve Used Adam Rib by Maximus692(m): 5:06am On Nov 21, 2022
jaephoenix:
I didn’t want to contribute to this for fear of this mad spamb9t restricting my account. But I'll chip in
I am a Physician of 16 years experience. Blood transfusion is a life saver. Reason why hospitals all over the world go for blood drives. Reason why there are blood banks globally. So I don't know where Max got his narrative that health workers abhor transfusions
Now bloodless surgeries are safe, no doubt, but guess what? They don't apply to all surgeries, they are very expensive and not every surgeon can operate that way. We doctors try as much as possible to reduce blood loss during ops but sometimes it doesn't work out that way, and u end up with angry bleeders. So what do u do? Not many Nigerians can afford minimally invasive procedures. Example, open appendicitis is circa 50k to 250k but laparoscopic appendicitis(which is a bloodless surgery) is around 1 to 1.5m. Now Caesarean Section and abdominal myomectomy are very bloody ops. Myomectomy is surgical removal of fibroids. Only certain fibroids can be removed by a laparoscopic myomectomy and they have to be small. So if the fibroids are large, numerous or deeply embedded in the uterus, then an abdominal myomectomy may be necessary. So if you are a Witness, what do u do?
Another point Witnesses get it wrong is the blood substitutes they use like haemacel etc. Now these substances don't replace blood and they are damn costly. About 50k for a pint, while a pint of blood is around 5k. Imagine a patient that needs 3 pints… Worse still, if they are bleeding profusely from say big lacerations and stab wounds, haemacel and other subs are plain useless. U need blood
Now we arrive at the issue of transfusion reaction. Like I pointed out earlier, I have been in practice for circa 16 years, and have been transfusing patients and I haven't seen 1 fatal reaction. Just one febrile reaction which I gave a shot of hydrocort, ran some saline and still recommenced the transfusion later which completed peacefully. My point… blood transfusion reactions are getting less and less troublesome. It's even less troublesome now we have better screening techniques and better drugs to counter them if they do happen
Thanks for attending my Ted talk, sirs
Instead of mentioning Max why not just refute the claims of certified health personels who are talking about hazards in blood transfusion? They've listed so many things and your story about 16 years is not enough to cover up their claims otherwise we will have to tell you stories of many successfully bloodless surgeries! smiley

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