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Lukuluku69:
And the endless tripe continues!!!!!
I reckon then that you have not seen where your Jehovah repeatedly call himself the God of Israel? If I may ask who is/are Israel? Jacob's Twelve Sons descendants!
And here you are saying Jehovah is not their God?
Can't you see that something is wrong with you? Can't you see that you don't think?

God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, does that excludes David, Solomon and Moses? Why are you lots (both mainstream and the Cultists) are forever this DUMB?

The fact that a child brought sorrow to his Parents, does that mean he doesn't worship Jehovah?

The Nation of Israel in the old brought sorrow to Jehovah, yet Jehovah stood with them, repeatedly call himself " God of Israel"

Why do you think like this? Why?

Jacob is the man called Israel not his descendants! Genesis 32:28

His children are called ISRAELITES!

So all the nonsense and ingredients Israelites later brought God erased it because of His promises to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (Israel)

Michael548:
Time is subjective....the same applies to good and bad. Both must be measured with a standard.

Please are you one of JWs?

Lukuluku69:
Show me where that is stated in the Bible or your Sect version of the Bible.
Mr. Akinwale you will never change. Never. The brainwash is 100%.

If you're not deceiving yourself how can the children that brought sorrow to their father's heart be worshipers of their father's God?

Well their father Jacob is the one who is God's worshiper at that point in time his children must imitate his faith if they want to become worshipers of their father's God.

So because of their faithlessness they weren't worshipers of their father's God at that point in time not until they repented and brought Joy to their father's heart that's when they can be rightly called worshipers of the God of Jacob.

That's why the Bible never called any of them as worshiper of the same God with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Do you notice that the attachment ended with Jacob?

That's the secret, your own son who feels disgusts towards your God can't be a worshiper of your God but if he changes then your God will acknowledge him!

Janosky:
You don't know the only true God in heaven, John 17:3 & John 20:17.
Your own god is everywhere, even in the hearts of evildoers.
Oga,Continue DECEIVING yourself.

Oteneaaron (Courz) doesn't have any regard for the scriptures, whenever he quotes it's to ridicule the Bible making it seem God's word is inconsistent {Matthew 4:6} so his MOTIVE is to make the one believing in the Bible feel lost!

Just study the SPEED with which he responds to posts coming from a JW: since he doesn't have any regard for the scriptures he will not even read the cited text before responding like a programned robot. His ATTITUDE is like fight to finish despite not knowing why he's doing so. Then watch out for threads that oteneaaron used to mock God's word or Christ neither Courz nor Dangig will show up to say a word yet the two accounts claimed they're Christians, and whatever oteneaaron kicks against like God's divine name which makes God's organization stands out with a unique group name Courz and Dangig will support him.

So it's the same person:
Oteneaaron
Court
Dangig!

Of course i own three accounts on this forum:
Maximus69 (deactivated)
MaxInDHouse
Maximus692
As for AkinwaleJJ it belongs to my wife not me.

Ọmọ when i told you guys about my former profession you thought it was a joke but that's just the truth.
If you like raise twenty accounts against God's organization your attitude will expose you.

I intentionally took you up to find out if you're just a new person on the forum only to discover that you just disguised with another account. In the intelligence we don't need your face or fingerprint to detect you rather it's your moves, motives, speed and attitude that we need to study even if you go for a face surgery we will detect it's you.

So try another method i don't argue with faithless miscreants most especially the ones disguising as someone else!

Dangig:
Baby Christian, The dude up there just informed me that you love to accuse people of having more than one monikers so that you can escape when someone is drilling you to expose your Hypocrisy and low knowledge of the Bible. Pot calling Kettle black who also isn't worshipping the God of the Psalmist , What are you doing with these monikers below?

MaxInDHouse

Maximus692

AkinwaleJjj.

Why are four fingers pointing at you as you point to another person? Haven't I warned you that Jesus detests Hypocrites?

Lukuluku69:
When Jacob's sons sold one of their own into slavery, he was worshipping Ayelala?

YES! those that sold Joseph weren't worshipers of Jehovah at that time!

Lukuluku69:
When David son rebelled and war against his father's Kingdom, he was a worshipper of Sango?

YES! He was no longer a worshiper of Jehovah!

Lukuluku69:
I can give you hundreds of instances where worshippers of Jehovah were at each other's jugular.

Yoy can't find just one unless you choose to deceive yourself!

Lukuluku69:
And coming to the incidents in Germany, your Sect must have damaged the guy that the only thing on his mind to kill some of you but fortunately for you, Dead man don't talk otherwise we would have heard his own side of the story.

For lifting up weapons against organized people he is no longer a worshiper of Jehovah!

This is not like your Allah where one organized group praying to Allah with a chief imam who believes in the central unit of control (Mecca) and the manual (Qu'ran) will pray to your God facing the Kabah and another chief imam who also believes in the same arrangement will be on opposing sides against one another to kill yourselves.

According to our own God we must obey His orders before picking up weapons and we must follow instructions on how to wage war otherwise we are on our own. Check all the instances you mentioned in the Bible and see if God's representatives are on both opposing sides. It's your Allah that can't explain what is happening to it's worshipers jehovah knows what goes wrong that's why He gives us specific instructions regarding wars.

Presently His Son has spoken and it's no more raising physical weapons against anyone. Matthew 5:43-48

So if you find anyone still carrying weapons against his or her fellowman today know that such individuals aren't worshiping Jehovah anymore!

Real faith can only be verified through the demonstration of a group upholding the same line of thought as they're working with assurance that what they believe will come true! Hebrews 11:1
So it's not easy to figure out faith in individuals whose intentions are not known! Hebrews 11:6

Janosky:
Do you worship the God of Psalms 11:4-5 & 139 & Proverbs 15:3?
You love to delude yourself.

It's oteneaaron/Courz using a new account!

Thinking, response and attitude perfectly match!

Read the story again, this is not about those WORSHIPING the same God picking up weapons against themselves unlike worshipers whose leaders will pray to the same God to support themselves in going to war against their fellow worshipers of the same God!

Lukuluku69:
But they can go on a rampage against others? Prepare and arm themselves against others?
By the way, one of you went berserk in Germany some days ago. He took out 7 people of your sect with him. What went wrong?

Lukuluku69:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/10/hamburg-shooting-people-killed-jehovahs-witness-hall-say-police

Lukuluku69:
Exactly even worshIppers not following the words of whom they claim to follow by not carrying out his command for then to sell the clothes on their backs and go buy swords and even telling them to slaughter anyone who doesn't want his rule over them.
No be so?
I know you have a lot of time on your hands, find time and explore other Cultures and point of views too. That Millennia Reign BS was cribbed from the Persians.

At least worshipers of the same God supposed not to raise weapons against themselves if the God they're worshiping is not insane!

The OP has mentioned composite sign of the end time but still any intelligent follower may ask:

"Can we rely on what Jesus of Nazareth said about the end time?"

Because WARS, REPORTS OF WARS, SHORTAGE OF FOOD, EARTHQUAKES, PANGS OF DISTRESS, HATRED, BETRAYAL, FALSE PROPHETS, INCREASE OF LAWLESSNESS and LOVE TOWARDS NEIGHBOURS GROWING COLD

None of these is new to the inhabitants of this planet so it won't sound real for anyone who is not a lover of the Bible to believe in Jesus.

But one out of all these signs is undeniably and indisputable. Please open your Bible and read Matthew 24:14

"And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come"

Here Jesus is saying that the message he preached and taught will be taken throughout the earth.
But one may ask "Has the churches of Christendom not gone round the earth with their religion?"

Well let's consider what Isaiah and Micah have to say about the endtime:

"And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it. And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more. Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

So let's analyse the above prophecy and see how it correlates with what Jesus said about the last days!

God's Holy Spirit will gather faithful people throughout the earth which correlates with what Jesus said in the Bible book of Act 1:8 compare to Isaiah 2:2; Micah 4:1

Millions across the globe will agree to study God's word together so that they can all have the same line of thought like one family! John 17:22 compare to Isaiah 2:3; Micah 4:2

All these people will use God's word to settle their racial disparities among themselves {Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3 compare to Matthew 5:43-48; 6:12} they will divert their resources into the production of food and information materials, erased the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons, and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again!

When we see all these happening then there is indisputable evidence that we are living in the last days.

Well from 1919 a group known back then as International Bible Students Association (IBSA) started a preaching and teaching campaign that led millions to the the fulfilment of what is found written in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 and Micah 4:1-3

So if anyone is still doubting what Jesus taught about the last days let him know that Jesus' real disciples has sufficed throughout the earth today in the name of "Jehovah's Witnesses" well the world hate this group {Matthew 24:9; John 15:19; 17:14} even though they're the perfect description of what Isaiah, Micah and Jesus foretold about the last days as they're zealously preaching and teaching industriously throughout the earth! Act 1:8

This group and what they're doing globally is the indisputable evidence that Jesus' words regarding the endtime is authentic! Act 1:8

Lukuluku69:
Yeah.
Ignorance sometimes is Bliss

Exactly even though worshipers are following leaders with weapons to kill one another yet the god they worship still sound makes sense to them!

Lukuluku69:
Not a "thinking" thing. My position is from a Knowing One.
You can know too when you explore Cultures, Faith and Civilizations that preceded that of the Children of Jacob as well as those that ran alongside. Then, you will realize that what 6iu call expectations, either wrong or right ones have always been with everyone. Running with the Jewish side of the story does not cut it in the grand scheme of thing Mr.Akinwale

As you think!

Danabu:
For those who are grounded in theology either way kindly explain with scriptures the differences between spirit and soul in relation to man as opposed to animals

SPIRIT (ACTIVE FORCE) that God infused inside the clay body to activate the heart {Genesis 2:7} so when this force stops activating the heart a man is said to be clinically dead but if it could be revived the heart start all over again and the whole body rejuvenated. It's when all effort to reactivate the heart failed that a person is biologically dead then only God who installed this force in the beginning can reinstall it! Ecclesiastes 12:7

SOUL (CHARACTER) the real person apart from the appearance. When a name is mentioned the first thing that comes to our mind is the CHARACTER except we haven't known or had anything about the name before. That is the SOUL!

Therefore when a person dies both the spirit and the soul dies along with the body as only God can reinstall the active force (SPIRIT) and bring back the body with the soul (CHARACTER) no matter the damage caused by death or how long the person has died even if the body has decayed and returned to dust God can bring him back exactly as he was before death! Job 14:13-15

This is why Jesus warned that others can only kill by destroying the body but only God can destroy the person and make sure that both the body and soul (CHARACTER) is forgotten for good never to be raised back to life! Matthew 10:28 compare Psalms 9:17

Only BORN AGAIN Christians will go to heaven but as for Hell (Grave) that's the home of all dead people.
Resurrection is the only hope the dead have so mad people will be remembered during the resurrection based on their disposition before they run mad!

Lukuluku69:
You are welcome while on failed and wrong expectations Mr. Akinwale

As you think!

Lukuluku69:
For more warped Doctrines should just Text LAFF to Maximus692 or a mention is good to go too? 1914 from when he left equals 1,000 years abi? You see that BS of a Thousand years Reign was cribbed from the Persians why early Delusional Christians. I think you should read more about the Zoroastrian Magis and see the similarities in their expectations and your own expectations about a Millennial Reign

Thanks for your time!

At least the God who spoke with Abraham isn't omnipresent so if anyone has a contrary opinion let him go and worship with whoever agree with him!

Dangig:
Oh Yes. That's exactly how you are judging from your comment history. Can you explain why you have chosen to disobey your Cult's order?

Oteneaaron/ Courz/ Dangig you've been exposed!

From November 22 90% of your posts is about JWs.

Ọmọ go and listen to the results of politics at least that's more important to you than God's organization!

Dangig:
Seriously Anticipating the results.

Dangig:
You JWs are more like the Pharisees. So your 1st verse is out. Same with your 2nd verse. You haven't answered the question.

Are you allowed to research your religion from outside sources? Are you allowed to hear, read or talk about negative reports about your religion? Yes or No?

Gbam!
You have been nailed!
Oteneaaron's new account in addition to Courz now you've been exposed with this account.

Try another method!

Dangig:
No. You don't pick interest in who is interested in your Cult. From your comments, you deliberately love to be in the company of people you are trained to despise. You are not following the orders of your Cult. That's why you are obsessed with all his threads. There are many things you have unknowingly learnt from his threads. Hence, the obsession.

Your PERSONAL opinion shey?

Dangig:
But you JWs are more like the Pharisees. So your 1st verse is out. Same with your 2nd verse. You haven't answered the question.

Are you allowed to research your religion from outside sources? Are you allowed to hear, read or talk about negative reports about your religion? Yes or No?

Now you're displaying lack of understanding!

Between the Pharisees whose Rabbis welcome ideas from other sources to form opinion and Jesus' disciples who stick to the same line of thought which does JWs reflect?

Maximus692:
“Keep your eyes open and watch out for the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees" Matthew 16:6

Then they grasped that he said to watch out, not for the leaven of bread, but for the teaching of the Pharisees and Sadducees! Matthew 16:12

Dangig:
That means you are very weak minded. This dude is a very big threat to your Faith. That's unfortunate. He created these threads yet you still found yourself there. Why? I thought you are supposed to stay away from his kind. That means you enjoy these threads he created.

I pick interest in anyone that is interested in jw.org to know what exactly interests them that's why i am showing you what this guy has in mind perhaps he believe the same god you believe!

Dangig:
Good. Your Response means No. You are not allowed to associate with Ex members even if they are still believers in God and Jesus. This is Sign of a Cult Number 4.
Are you allowed to research your religion from outside sources? Are you allowed to hear, read or talk about negative reports about your religion? Yes or No?

“Keep your eyes open and watch out for the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees" Matthew 16:6

Then they grasped that he said to watch out, not for the leaven of bread, but for the teaching of the Pharisees and Sadducees! Matthew 16:12

Dangig:
Why do you and your fellow JW keep calling this guy's name? Is he a threat to your Faith? He must be a very important person to you.

https://www.nairaland.com/7006256/jesus-real-myth-challenge-maxindhouse
https://www.nairaland.com/7492800/kind-god-worship-determines-level
https://www.nairaland.com/7464041/pagan-christ-book-review
https://www.nairaland.com/7408198/man-thinketh-book-review
https://www.nairaland.com/7373591/how-realized-religion-powerful
https://www.nairaland.com/2871008/created-god
https://www.nairaland.com/2936246/christianity-moral
https://www.nairaland.com/2813543/sin-necessary-evil

These are the threads of your friend and 60 out of 80 threads he has put up so far is about JWs so if he's your friend it's good you worship with him!

Dangig:
Are you allowed to speak or associate with Ex members of your religion or with JWs who choose to leave? Yes or No.

"Now I urge you, brothers, to keep your eye on those who create divisions and causes for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned, and avoid them" Romans 16:17

"If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For the one who says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works" 2John 10-11

Dangig:
Your response shows Yes. The God described by the Psalmist is not the god you worship. Thank you for your responses. I have learnt a lot from these conversations. You have helped to confirm my suspicions about JWs. Your beliefs are so different from Christianity because you do not worship Almighty God in the heavens.

Great!

So go and worship with worshipers of your God like oteneaaron!

Lukuluku69:
So, Jehovah failed for a Thousand years?
"Sit thou at my right hand.......
if that refers to your Jesus, it has been over Two Thousands years since e don dey Siddon oo

Thanks for this question!

Jesus sat beside Jehovah immediately he got back to heaven {Act 2:34-36} until 1914 when he began taking action against God's enemies in heaven {Revelations 12:7-12} that's why the earth has been experiencing a lot since that year. Jesus will soon bring his government to the earth but before then he used God's Holy Spirit to restructure his disciples on earth so that they can start gathering faithful people throughout the earth, this began in the year 1919 and by the year 2019 it makes a hundred years of gathering faithful people, so far so good millions across the globe have become members of a global family of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:2-4} under the Prince of Peace Jesus Christ! Isaiah 9:6

So my friend Jesus' 1,000 years reign hasn't begin it's when he started ruling over the earth that the counting will begin, by then he will order his angels to exterminate all opposers of his rule! Luke 19:27

May you have PEACE!

Dangig:
Now since you disagree with the Psalmist, that means his description does not fit the description of your own god. Therefore, the All powerful Almighty God the Psalmist worships is not the same god you worship. Yes or No?

Keep on asking! Matthew 7:7

Dangig:
Has Watchtower ever disclosed how they became Billionaires? Did they ever inform you JWs about them being involved in Real Estate Businesses? Did they tell you about their investments? Yes or No?

Ọmọ our organization is rich because our God owns the heavens, the earth and everything in it so riches and glory belongs to our God JEHOVAH!

Dangig:
Thank you for confirming that You cannot leave JW without facing serious consequences. This is sign of a Cult Number One.
Next question, Are you allowed as a JW to question, correct or criticise your Watchtower leaders when they are obviously wrong about anything? Yes or No?

@ Jesus said whoever shrinks back is unworthy of God's organization {Luke 9:62} so no member of God's family should have dealings with such foolish ones! Romans 16:17; 2John 10-11
@ Jesus said whatever those taking the lead in God's organization binds the heavens has bound it and whatever they loosen the heavens has loosened it {Matthew 16:19} so whoever feels like he's smarter than them will receive judgment like Ananias and Saphiras even though they were wrong on what they decided upon.
Jesus has warned his disciples that poverty can not be eradicated among them until God's Kingdom comes {John 12:8} yet the apostles committed a blunder trying to eradicate poverty in their midst {Act 4:34-37} but when Ananias and Saphiras tried to play smarter than the apostles God's Holy Spirit killed them despite the fact that the arrangement wasn't right from the standpoint of the founder of Christianity! Act 5:1-11

So whoever want to question the authority Christ gave those leading God's organization is doing so at the expense of his own soul! Hebrews 13:7, 17

Your insistence on a YES or NO response is none of my business as long as interested ones are following honest hearted and sincere individuals will learn from our discussion.
So continue asking and the answers will be supplied whether it pleases you or not!

Dangig:
There is no need for all these long story. Your response shows you disagree with the Psalmist about his description of God. Good.

Now since you disagree with him, that means his description does not fit the description of your own god. Therefore, the All powerful Almighty God the Psalmist worships is not the same god you worship. Yes or No?

My response is for people who want to learn and know why a righteous God doesn't come to the rescue of innocent victims of tyrants so keep your faith for those that will need it!

True Christians don't focus much on material things as personal gain for their faith because it's useless from the standpoint of the founder of Christianity! Matthew 6:19-21

So according to Jesus Christ all the prayers of Christians has already been answered because they're asking according to God's will! Matthew 6:6; 1John 5:14 compare to Proverbs 15:29

Those religious leaders and their followers are not Christians but materialists so their prayers has nothing to do with God!