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oteneaaron:
You only become a Jehovah's Witness when you get baptized. When did you get baptized?

OK that's what you think?
Ó mà ṣeo!

Well any faithful person throughout the earth no matter the religion he's found is already one of Jehovah's Witnesses all we need to do is FOUND them {Matthew 10:6, 11-13} so they became RECOGNIZE as one of JWs on the day of baptism but they're already JWs by faith in our God!

Dangig:
How on earth did you manage to join JW? Who studied with you? Your Bible Knowledge is very low.

How shameless you are?
Please read that verse to anyone and tell him or her that the person talking is present everywhere.
You liar!

Ọmọ the God that spoke in the Bible book of Genesis 18:20-21 is not omnipresent!

But if you want to know why feel free to ask it shall be given to you {Matthew 7:7-8} we were given freely and it's free we give! Matthew 10:8

Dangig:
At the Bolded, No wonder. The dude is like a child learning to speak for the first time. He is finding it difficult grasping the Absolute Power of God. I was wondering why the dude kept asking me to answer the question when I was actually doing just that. I don't understand why anyone would call God Almighty yet argue that his Knowledge and power is limited.

As for joining JWs, this dude made a horrible mistake. Their Bible teachings are twisted with absolutely no Sense. What he would have done is after leaving Islam, he would have joined a Bible believing Church that would Coach him on Basic Christianity. Get some basic teachings about Jesus and God. JW will take his Bible knowledge many steps backwards. JW isn't Basic Christianity. It is a Cult that is a total deviation from Christianity.

oteneaaron:
According to him, he joined the JW cult approximately 8 years ago.
In reality, he is still a baby JW.
Fun fact - he used to be a Muslim.

Naaaaaaaaaaaaa!

I started studying with JWs since 1993 but bow to their teachings 22 years later so ọmọ i gave them a dirty fight that's why none of your professors in Atheism can stand the wisdom given me!

Dangig:
I have been answering you but you lack spiritual understanding and you are a Baby in Christianity. You are Spiritually disabled. You are a terrible sight to behold. You need coaching in Basic Christianity. How did you join JW? Who studied with you? The person did a Horrible job. Did you just join Christianity newly?

Ọmọ according to God's own words found at Genesis 18:20-21 is the God speaking there omnipresent?

Dangig:
Do you have the power to read minds and hearts? Will you be a judge along with Jesus to call people Faithless? Do you know you are the Faithless one?

Faith is the assured expectations of what is hoped for the evident demonstration of realities though not seen! Hebrews 11:1

I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses and activities of my group is known globally {Matthew 5:14-16} and when it comes to the fulfilment of what God promised about His worshipers in the endtime {Isaiah 2:2-4} is found only among JWs. James 2:18-26

So if you're calling this group names but failed to present a better performing group that makes you a faithless miscreant! Isaiah 5:20

Dangig:
Is that how you are trained in the Kingdom Hall to call people who don't listen to you or disagree with you Faithless while Preaching? Do you call people Faithless when Preaching?

When you accuse an organization and criticize the group simply because they're sticking to their faith you need to be told the truth.
You found a thread on social media and started contributing without calmly asking questions to ascertain what really happened from the mouth of members of the accused group {1Thessalonians 5:21} such biased attitude doesn't deserve respect from anyone! Exodus 23:1-2

Dangig:
I see. It seems that is how they are trained in JW. To dish out insults when people disagree with them.

I just described you based on your attitude toward those sticking to the promises of God!

Dangig:
So, how did you come to this conclusion? Are you going to judge along with Jesus when he separates his sheep from the Goats? Who are you to call someone Faithless? Did we discuss anything about Covenants and Promises? And how have I shown myself to be Faithless? Can you read minds and hearts to know who is faithless? How do you know who lacks conscience or morals when you just showed a lack of morals by calling me names? Are you now God that knows Everything? Show me from the Bible on which basis you came to that conclusion.

Jesus PROMISED that his real disciples will be called "CULT" "SATANISTS" and you have just done that.
Please what other fulfilment do i need as proof to know that JWs are Jesus' real disciples and you are one of those faithless miscreants calling them names for their FAITH?

Ọmọ you're a faithless miscreant jọọ!

When you're ready to learn i will TEACH you!

oteneaaron:
Exactly how you and every other Jehovah's Witness are HYPOCRITES. You say gambling is a sin and a sign of greed, but you are receiving free money from the Norwegian Gambling Authority. Last year alone, your organization received over 4M Norwegian Krones. You call others hypocrites - have you looked into the mirror recently?

MightySparrow:
So your organization accept payment of tithes to fully obey Jesus as house to house evangelism,
or you just choose what to obey?

Isaiah and Jesus both declared "WOE" so let's talk about them!

Can you just answer the question first?

Dangig:
I can see you are really a learner in Christianity. Let me lecture you the basics of Almighty God. Let me tell you the implications of this inaccurate doctrine of yours. You say God is not all knowing. Therefore he can be ignorant. This doctrine sounds like what will come from a Demon, specifically Satan. Only demons who hate Almighty God will come up with this doctrine. You know why? Because Satan wants all the worship that God rightfully possesses. So, what does he do? He teaches his disciples doctrines that Diminish God. He makes God look Casual. Therefore, he insinuates that God really isn't all that powerful. We can't really depend on him for Knowledge. He cannot know everything. He may make mistakes in dishing out knowledge because he doesn't know everything. Which means anyone can do whatever they like with the belief that God won't know the evil that they are doing. And because God doesn't know everything, then the good people do to others will also not be recognised by God. And since God doesn't know everything, then how will the wicked be judged Accurately by Jesus and the righteous be rewarded? People who believe this doctrine will treat people anyhow they like and commit all sort of atrocities believing God won't know because like you said, He can be ignorant. That's the danger in this doctrine.

Dangig:
Oh Now you are into name calling. Wow. God's organisation representative insulting another. Just because I disagreed with you. Is this how you preach to people and curse them when they don't listen to you as you go Door to Door? Is that what you are taught in your Kingdom hall? Your Jehovah must be proud of you. Tell me, what is Faithless Miscreant? Why do you call someone who disagreed with you Faithless?

Faithless: Not observant of promises or covenants!

Miscreant: Lacking in conscience or moral principles; unscrupulous.

Ọmọ you're a faithless miscreant!

Thanks for the epistle!

Can you now answer the simple question?

Dangig:
And I am telling you that the Accurate knowledge is already in the Bible for all to see. Accurate Knowledge is when you read all verses about a Subject before forming a Doctrine. You can't pick one verse and disregard other verses. That's not how to read the Bible. The problem with your Cult is they pick one verse and form a doctrine from it. But they never bother to read other verses to see if their inference/conclusion from one verse agrees with the rest of the Bible. You must be careful with how you read the Bible. You are quoting Genesis 18 vs 20 and 21 and jumped into the Conclusion that God can be Ignorant. But you fail to realise that other Bible verses describe the totality of God's knowledge. Your Cult refused to consider these other verses that talk about God's knowledge. Therefore, whatever conclusion you arrive at from one verse is wrong since other verses are talking about something else. This means your Cult conclusion based on Genesis 18 vs 20 and 21 is wrong as long there are other verses that specifically describes God as All knowing. If God wasn't All Knowing, we wouldn't have the Books of Revelations, Daniel, Jeremiah and Ezekiel today. Unless you are trying to tell us All the contents in those books are all wrong and just imaginations. You have been provided with verses to read by others. I will not quote any for you. Go and read your Bible. You talk like you just joined Christianity newly. Who taught you?

MightySparrow:
Association of woe proclaimers.

Woe to those who say that good is bad and bad is good, Those who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness, Those who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! Isaiah 5:20 ~ Isaiah

“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because you give the tenth of the mint and the dill and the cumin, but you have disregarded the weightier matters of the Law, namely, justice and mercy and faithfulness. These things it was necessary to do, yet not to disregard the other things". Matthew 23:23 ~ Jesus

They're Jehovah's Witnesses please count me as one of them!

Faithless miscreant!

Jesus already told us that faithless miscreants like you will call us CULT! Matthew 10:25

So continue dreaming!

Dangig:
You never cared about what I think yet you replied me. Actions speak louder. Once again, who are you to tell me to learn from you? Your Cult really deceived you to think you are anything special. Well, the responses you have been getting so far proved your Cult lied to you. Too bad.

MightySparrow:
Woe is an anthem in your community?
Okay, Continue.

Thank God it's Jesus and other servants of God that proclaim WOE on faithless miscreants we only say "Amen" heartily since we know it's not about us!

Good!
So go and worship with your fellow believers i have my own spiritual family!

MightySparrow:
Bad extrapolation, Angels (angels are spirits; as all that dwell in heaven are spirits John 4:24) have their works though.
They go wherever they are sent. But God sits in a place - His Throne Room (if you wish) from where HE co ordinates all affairs of the universe. He atimes visits any part of it. Adam and Eve were visited. He came personally in what looks like a ' spaceship' to visit Ezekiel. Ezekiel 1.
Mostly, He coordinates and communicatess with HIS Spirit. Mostly symbolized.
Zechariah 4:2,6,10
[2]And said unto me, What seest thou? And I said, I have looked, and behold a candlestick all of gold, with a bowl upon the top of it, and his seven lamps thereon, and seven pipes to the seven lamps, which are upon the top thereof:
[6]Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.
[10]For who hath despised the day of small things? for they shall rejoice, and shall see the plummet in the hand of Zerubbabel with those seven; they are the eyes of the LORD, which run to and fro through the whole earth.
Revelation 5:6
[6]And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
So, Sir I don't accept your teaching. It is your community truth.

So you need ACCURATE KNOWLEDGE not just picking words without considering what God said about Himself! Genesis 18:21-22

Dangig:
You cannot use the same Bible to counter what it says. It means you don't believe what the Bible says about God. You are not worshipping Almighty God. Your god has Limitations. He has weaknesses. He is not All Powerful. That's not Almighty God. The word Almighty is useless according to your doctrine. There is no need fishing for verses to twist and turn to make your doctrine work or seem acceptable. It is not acceptable and can never be. Maximus, you worship a god and Not Almighty God.

Enskynelson:
Now I know whom I am dealing with. Say it no more. I understand you 😆😆😆😆😆

Thanks for your time!

Dangig:
Good. So run along then.

I never cared a bit about what you think, say or does. You're the first to quote me that's why i told you to calm down and learn if you want to understand certain things!

Do you know those JEWS today?

Well Jesus Christ said whatever you do to them you're doing it to him! Matthew 25:34-46

So make sure you identify them because they aren't natural Jewish people that have rejected Jesus Christ! Matthew 21:43; 23:37-38

MightySparrow:
Bless and curse not. You don tear the passage ní?

Your faithlessness is epic!

Even Jesus Christ declared woes on faithless miscreants criticizing the truth so you can continue running just know that you can't hide!

Thanks for the epistle!

Now back to the question:

Is it God that spoke to Abraham @ Genesis 18:20-21?
If YES, is He omnipresent?

Dangig:
When people are giving you strange descriptions of very important personalities in the Bible, you need to look critically at what they are telling you. It is just like someone describing President Buhari as a short and fat man. Your mind should quickly tell you that person is describing somebody else to you. When descriptions of God do not fit in with what the Bible says, you should apply brake like you are driving a car and pause to think. The people giving you these descriptions are indirectly telling you about a different god who has Limitations. If you are a real Christian well grounded in the Bible, you should know that Limitations is not in the dictionary of an all Powerful Being whose wisdom cannot be fully understood in the person of Almighty God himself. The poster and You may think you are teaching people something new and catchy but you are not aware of the fact that you have succeeded in Reducing Almighty God to the barest minimum with this strange teaching of yours. The summary of your teaching is Almighty God is not All Powerful. He has weaknesses. Therefore, the word "Almighty" is useless. That's what your doctrine is telling us. Your doctrine has a description that should be attributed to a god, a creature, a created being way less than Almighty God himself.

Dangig:
So if you go to gamble and your Elders find out and decide to discipline you knowing fully well that your Cult accepts Money from Gambling, what will you do?

You don't need to know since you're not interested in learning from me!

Dangig:
I am not interested in learning from you. I never indicated interest.

Dangig:
I am not interested in learning from you. I never indicated interest. Who told you that? Your Cult deceived you that People are to learn from you. That you have Monopoly of the Bible. No o. That's not how life works. You must have seen this evidence in this forum. No one is interested in learning from you. The Bible is there for all to read and learn. We are not interested in people who twist the Bible and have added and subtracted from it. Jesus warned about that. And I intend to listen to him. So, anyone who follows Christ has absolutely nothing to learn from you.

So clap for yourself!

Dangig:
Someone has already posted proof from the Bible. Go back and read them. You worship a different god.

End of the road!

You don't know what the Bible teaches but you want to argue. Well that's what being a fully competent and completely equipped student of the Bible means {2Timothy 3:16-17}, we make sure of all things not just follow what people say! 1Thessalonians 5:21

So run along!

Dangig:
Doesn't it sound strange to you that your leaders create rules and force you to follow them yet they turn around and break the same rules over and over again?

When you're ready to learn you will calm down for divine wisdom, until then

Clap for yourself!

Dangig:
The Bible has already described God perfectly well which contradicts what the poster presented here. I follow the Bible. Therefore, the poster is talking about a different god.

You're still arguing without a proof!

This is what the OP meant:

"The outcry against Sodʹom and Go·morʹrah is indeed great, and their sin is very heavy. I will go down to see whether they are acting according to the outcry that has reached me. And if not, I can get to know it" Genesis 18:20-21

Now answer the simple question:

According to what God Himself said in that verse to Abraham, is the true God omnipresent?

MightySparrow:
Epe! Epe!! Epe!!!
Af' ida pani kìí jẹ a fi gbẹyin oun
You are quick to point out the wrong of others not of your GBpreneurs.

Are you among those preferring evil instead of good?
Well to whatever is found in the Bible or what Isaiah said in that verse {Isaiah 5:20} i Maximus say:

Amen in Jesus name!

Dangig:
We are not in a Cult like you where ordinary Men made of dust like you have forced you to follow rules and you are not free to correct or criticise them without being punished. We are Free Moral agents, free to make decisions as long it fits how Christ wants us to live. Christ wasn't about Rules. He never created rules that he will turn his back to break like your Cult does. So you see. You JWs are hypocrites.

Clap for yourself!

When the Ikemba brought PGO to his people in Anambra for endorsement as governor of that state he was going from clan to clan with tears telling them that this young man will make the history he (Odumegwu Ojukwu) failed to achieve. Then Peter had nobody with him because they don't know him in the field of politics he was just a young and industrious young man very articulate and shrewd in his way of handling funds.
Well those old Papas and Mamas came out massively to vote Peter based on what Ojukwu uttered in tears:

"I just want to know if you Anambra people still have me in mind, make this boy the governor and see the glory of Anambra come to light through him"

Today Odumegwu Ojukwu is dead in his grave but what about the boy he nominated for his people back then?

Well for the first time in the history of Nigeria youths from all the parts of this nation from the north, from the east, from the west and from the south have become one calling themselves "OBEDIENTS" all because of the young man Ojukwu foretold that will bring back glory to Anambra state!

Whether he's announced or not PGO has rewritten the history of politics in Nigeria no more blindfolding the people with tribalism or religion, Peter has broken the jinx!