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sonmvayina:
Ok, i guess witnessing for Jehovah entails following his statues and commandments....
Why are you still practicing idolatry?

You don't know the meaning of that word "IDOLATRY" your Jewish landlord has turned you into a sadist {Matthew 23:15} so you keep thinking everyone is practicing idolatry whereas you've caused someone in the name of AMADIOHA (idol) on this same forum.
So humble yourself and learn!

Excellent!

jaephoenix:
Throughout the whole world people turn to weapons and support in killing people for so many reasons but the Flying Spaghetti Monster commanded His own worshipers to drop weapons and we can see individuals including the most racist nations obeying wholeheartedly (DEMONSTRATION) of VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE that a Spaghetti Monster is in control!
This is proof Spaghetti Monster exists

Ken4Christ:
You are not yet born again. So, you can't understand spiritual things. I will explain to you later what it means to be born again.

Continue lying to your own soul!

Ken4Christ:
How does water baptism connects with being born again? Please explain.

All Christians must be baptized in water {Matthew 28:19} readiness to get baptized in the name of Christ Jesus is what makes God anoint some with Holy Spirit but anyone who despises baptism in the name of Christ Jesus can never be anointed with Holy Spirit! Act 2:38

Only those baptized in water could expect the baptism of Holy Spirit, God approved gentiles without water baptism {Act 10:46-48} because Jewish Christians thought those who aren't circumcised shouldn't be baptized in the name of Christ! Act 15:1

Ken4Christ:
Water baptism has nothing to do with being born again. The Holy Spirit baptism is another experience different from being born again.

Now you're directly lying against Jesus!
Hope you're not high on some substance because Jesus Christ explained what BORN AGAIN entails saying it's double baptism of WATER and of SPIRIT.
So stop blaspheming otherwise you will perish soon!

tctrills:
Funny, the pot calling the kettle black. How can you criticize people better than you?

I'm only asking you a simple question:

Do you think the God in question below is the one these churches are worshiping:

“No man who has put his hand to a plow and looks at the things behind is well-suited for the Kingdom of God.” Luke 9:62

“But my righteous one will live by reason of faith,” and “if he shrinks back, I have no pleasure in him.” Hebrews 10:38

YES or NO!

Ken4Christ:
Yes he was because he believed in Jesus. But he permitted greed to ruin his relationship with Christ. Even today, there are so many who are born again that later depart from the faith. Born again does not immune you to mistakes. But it gives you the opportunity to live a different life. But if you permit your flesh to dominate you, it will ruin your Christian testimony.

Guy stop deceiving yourself, people can only become BORN AGAIN by baptism in water and spirit. Judas Iscariot only got baptized in water he never got baptized in the spirit!

sonmvayina:
How did you achieve that...?

By being one of Jehovah's Witnesses!

tctrills:
The following churches are not commanded to hate their formal members
Deeper life
Celestial church
Anglican church
Catholic Church
LDS
Church of Christ
7 days Adventist
Redeem
Winers
Christ Embassy
And a thousand others.
You are the one church that teach hate so stop that nonsense.

Do you think the God in question below is the one these churches are worshiping

MaxInDHouse:
“No man who has put his hand to a plow and looks at the things behind is well-suited for the Kingdom of God.” Luke 9:62

“But my righteous one will live by reason of faith,” and “if he shrinks back, I have no pleasure in him.” Hebrews 10:38

But you can't present the original where their God rejects those turning back shey?
Ọmọ i've heard you!

tctrills:
fake plow

tctrills:
So please don't ever bring up this peace and love argument because JW actually hate their formal members and treat them as shit.

“No man who has put his hand to a plow and looks at the things behind is well-suited for the Kingdom of God.” Luke 9:62

“But my righteous one will live by reason of faith,” and “if he shrinks back, I have no pleasure in him.” Hebrews 10:38

Thanks for your time!

tctrills:
Yes but if your doctrine is false, please leave that plow. The false plow.

Ọmọ i've heard you!

tctrills:
Oga was Jesus talking about war here or was he telling you and I how to relate with our fellow men?
Now would you ask your wife to turn the other cheek to her rapist so he can have her more? Would you teach her not to resist?

At the end, would you bless and pray for her rapist.

jaephoenix:
Good. Which demonstrable and verifiable evidence is that

Throughout the whole world people turn to weapons and support in killing people for so many reasons but God commanded His own worshipers to drop weapons and we can see individuals including the most racist nations obeying wholeheartedly (DEMONSTRATION) of VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE that a GOD is in control!

tctrills:
Matthew 5:43-48
Verse 46 and 47
For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?

Yet you are the only Church that stops showing love to it's formal members. Clearly you guys completely misunderstood the word.

“No man who has put his hand to a plow and looks at the things behind is well-suited for the Kingdom of God.” Luke 9:62

“But my righteous one will live by reason of faith,” and “if he shrinks back, I have no pleasure in him.” Hebrews 10:38

I've heard you jàre!

tctrills:
Jesus Christ was talking to individuals. He was talking about how we relate in our daily lives.
He says love your enemies so you should not hurt the man raping your wife. He was not talking to the entire nation but to you the individual.
Tell your wife to turn the other side for her rapist and not to resist evil.

39But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.

43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?

48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

If you do not understand that the commandments in these verses are personal you will continue to misinterpret

sonmvayina:
Peace within and peace without....

I have peace with myself and my fellow believers.
Thank you!

jaephoenix:
verifiable
/ˈvɛrɪfʌɪəbl/
Learn to pronounce
adjective
able to be checked or demonstrated to be true, accurate, or justified.
"an easily verifiable claim"
Something I can demonstrate to be true

So do you agree that the DEMONSTRATION of God's people in your community today based on the HOPE they have is evidence of God's existence? Hebrews 11:1

Ken4Christ:
Yes, they were born again. And that was what qualified them to receive the baptism with the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost.

Two agency of the new birth are the word and the Holy Spirit.

The words of Jesus are life. The very moment they believed that Jesus is Christ, they were born again.

So Judas Iscariot was BORN AGAIN before he sold Jesus out for money, shey?

Ọmọ humble yourself and learn!

They became Christians the very day they began preaching and teaching what Jesus taught them in their neighbourhood that very day they preached and cured people in Jesus name Judas was among {Matthew 10:1-10} including many who later turned their backs on him! John 6:66

After most of them have gone their ways due to personal opinions only a few of them were baptized with God's Holy Spirit {John 3:5} after their baptism in water {John 3:26} and these few became BORN AGAIN Christians at pentecost! Act 2:1-4

Everything you typed is based on your own personal opinion so you have to learn how to convey your thoughts in a way that will appeal to your listeners not just quoting a book simply because it was written by Jews!

sonmvayina:
You are still warp in this kind of mentality...

God is not a man, God is the universal consciousnesses..
I know you may not agree with me...but you have to think until it hurts...and be open to new knowledge...it will help shine a better light on things....

The only way to convince them why some actions are considered evil....and teach them the laws so they can make better judgement and decisions...

Jesus is just a distractions.....he has no role whatsoever to play in the scheme of things...

Learn the Torah...so you can teach it...

tctrills:
But you don't. You don't even understand the verse. I have asked and I still ask, how peaceful would you be if you find someone raping your wife?

And i have answered you a million times that when Jesus drove away money changers in the temple he never solicited for mob action against them which could have led to a war.
So if just one person is doing what is wrong the whole society will condemn such act unlike when people support either sides to start killing innocent souls!

tctrills:
But you don't practice what Jesus Christ taught in Matthew 5:43-48 rather you practice your personal beliefs.

Jesus Christ taught that the gospel be preached to all the world but you are bringing up your opinion.

So a group that's infusing what Jesus taught @ Matthew 5:43-48 in the minds of their members globally isn't practicing what Jesus taught?
Please what do you think any group can do for the Prince of Peace? Isaiah 9:6

tctrills:
The point isn't to discuss your personal beliefs but to read and understand the gospel of Jesus Christ.
The scriptures state that the gospel will be preached to every creature. As of today, over a quarter of the world's population have never been engaged in any form of Christian preaching.

Well if you call practicing what Jesus taught in the Bible book of Matthew 5:43-48 personal beliefs of a global family of peace loving worshipers then i rest my case Sir!

tctrills:
You mean that as long as 1 person has access to your preaching then the work is done?
Now let's read what Jesus Christ taught.
Mark 16:15-16
15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
Oga, every creature must have access to the word of God.
Let's read another verse.
And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, The gospel will be preached to every nation, kindred, tongue, and people.
So until everyone in every country can hear the gospel of Jesus Christ, the work is far from over.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm what you need is a humble heart but i'll assume you only need clarification.

When God began dealing with the Egyptians and their gods what was the reason why God never killed Pharaoh (just one man) so that everyone in Egypt could become scared to let the Israelites go?

Well the true God wanted the news to reach all the nations where the Israelites are going to inherit so that when they hear that Israelites are coming they will have no option than to evacuate the premises.

What correlation has this got to do with the topic of discussion?

Throughout the earth today people have heard of TERRORIST GROUPS and the havoc they're causing in most lands but then the Russian ruler suddenly began treating a group as EXTREMISTS in his country and the news went throughout the world that this is the most peaceful group ever whose members will not lift up weapons even against their enemies!
WHY? Because they're practicing what Jesus of Nazareth the Prince of Peace commanded them! Matthew 5:43-48
Please my friend if anyone is like Rahab in any country on this planet do you think after hearing such News he or she will not like to know this group? Joshua 2:10-13
Well Jehovah asked His worshipers to destroy all the nations standing in their way not because they're all attacking the Israelites but because they didn't act on the News they heard just as that woman did.
So if anyone in any country has heard of JWs and our activities in other countries but failed to act on what he or she heard such a person is guilty already!

tctrills:
Let's assume the JW are teaching the gospel of Jesus Christ. Now let me ask you a few questions.
What percentage of people in China, Iran, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia and many other countries where Christianit preaching is not allowed have access to your preaching?

My guy Jesus never emphasized on percentage rather he said:

Moreover, just as it occurred in the days of Noah, so it will be in the days of the Son of man: they were eating, they were drinking, men were marrying, women were being given in marriage until that day when Noah entered into the ark, and the Flood came and destroyed them all. Luke 17:26-27

So if it's just a family of 8 persons in any of those countries as it occurred in the days of Noah from Jesus' viewpoint it is OK!

OkCornel:
God bless you for this.
People don’t see how Revelation 14 v 6 is a fulfilment of the gospel of the kingdom preached to everyone as Matthew 24 indicates.

Revelations 14:6 is actually the fulfilment of Matthew 24:14 but one thing most people don't know is that the 144,000 has been sealed before the gospel could reach all other nations.
That's why Jesus said the 144,000 will not be selected from all the recognized countries of the world because the persecution of JWs will not allow them preach in time in many countries while the sealing of the 144,000 is ongoing {Matthew 10:23} but people who are related to them by tongue and language will be part of those being sealed. For instance Ukraine and Russia speak almost the same language so if the good news couldn't rich one during the sealing of the 144,000 their family in the neighboring countries speaking their language will be part of those being sealed!

Ken4Christ:
When they believed in him.

So were they BORN AGAIN immediately they believe in him or it was after the event that occured at pentecost that they became BORN AGAIN?

tctrills:
Now over to you, which signs do you think have been fulfilled so far.

The last sign:

"And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come" Matthew 24:14

It remains just three countries that our brothers haven't started preaching, teaching and reporting back to the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses.

So apart from these three countries there's no other nations where Jehovah's Witnesses aren't reporting back to our headquarters their activities.

Just last week we were admonished to send whatever we could give to support our brothers and sisters in Turkey (Islamic nation) due to the earthquake killing people there.
Relief materials has been sent immediately to care for our brothers and sisters in Turkey and in surrounding nations our brothers and sisters has been called upon to house JWs who suffered loss in the ongoing earthquakes in Turkey.

So you will not be told when we finally reach the remaining three countries with the message of peace that's what none JWs are missing in the sacred secrets regarding things happening in this end time.

May you have PEACE!

Ken4Christ:
You are not a student of a school until you gain admission first. So trying to practice what the students do does not make you one of them. In the same sense, you are not a Christian because you are doing what Jesus commanded. You must be a part of the kingdom of God first. Jesus said, you must be born again first. This is the doorway. But you are trying to climb through the window. You are still a sinner. Your sacrifices are abomination unto God. Get washed in the blood of Jesus first.

When did Jesus' disciples became Christians?
Is it after their baptism in the spirit or when they started preaching and teaching what Jesus taught them?

sonmvayina:
The practical application is in encouraging people to obey Gods divine commandments so that we will live in peace and in a peaceful earth. Believing in anything outside of the creator of heaven and earth is taking us back. That is what I have been singing to you...
Belonging to a cult that worships or reverences an idol will not guarantee peace, because it is against the divine injunction.....
Comprende ??

We are saying the same thing but from different perspective!

How do you convince anyone that God exists and even if he believes in God how do you convince him that what you're quoting is from God?
Remember anything can be God to anybody it's until you're able to convince someone that what you're quoting is from God that your listener can think of obedience!

sonmvayina:
A renowned Jewish scholar speaking on the disputed Daniel 9... If you want a proper scholarship on how jesus was created..I can do you the favour...

Go and listen to different Nigerian politicians in the case of Nigerian politics then come back to me and let's talk about the positive results of politics in Nigeria.
Ọmọ quoting a Jew when you can't make good use of what he's saying is BRAINWASHING!

Go and learn the art of teaching where after reading or listening to someone who makes sense to you you can put what he said in your own words and bring out the practical application for the benefit of those putting it to good use.

Where are those PRACTICING what your Jewish scholar is saying?
It's after seeing how his utterances yields positive results among them that intelligent persons like me could take him seriously.

Do you think right thinking people just pick up what the Jews wrote down about their history and carry it in our heads?

NO! It's after seeing how practical it's application is and the benefits that follow that makes us believe in the God of Abraham!

The funny part critics against Jesus' credentials as Messiah is lack of critical thinking skills.

The quality of a sound teacher is not someone quoting several other people but the ability to interpret what someone said and bring out it's practical application so that others may benefit themselves through acting on it.

So what makes Jesus, his first century apostles and his modern day brothers (Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses) real teachers of God's word?

People may tell stories to teach, entertain or brainwash those listening to such stories that is why intelligent people don't just conclude on what people say about something instead we focus on the outcome of such stories in the lives of those taking it seriously! Matthew 7:16-18

Jesus of Nazareth claimed he is the only begotten Son of God {John 3:16} and also said there is an enemy who is controlling the majority on planet earth {John 14:30} then he concluded saying it's not when people are related through blood that makes them families for real rather it's when they share the same line of thought and goal! Matthew 12:46-50 compare to John 17:20-23

All these could be summed up as fabricated lies if it never yielded any positive result in the gathering of those who believe (trust) Jesus' teachings on this planet but then it was recorded that there was a group of people few in number among the Jews who began putting what Jesus taught to good use back in the first century the book is called "Act Of Apostles"
Though what the writer recorded sound really odd to many people so centuries later the book became just a story book that has no positive effect in the lives of those carrying it up and down.
Along the line some Roman politicians came up with the idea of intimidating people into subjecting themselves to the Roman authority so they began working on the book written by the Jewish disciples of Christ Jesus and they did interpreted the book adding their own ideas to suit their political ambitions. But it's not easy using what the book says to control people everywhere that's the reason behind the idea of eternal torment in HellFire though Hell simply means Grave but they dubiously misinterpreted Jesus' statements making seem that anyone who disagree with them will end up in HellFire. Despite their threat many still did not fall for their tricks so they instigated those that agreed against those that disagreed and that was what led to wars called "CRUSADE" in the dark ages!