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Golden456:
The watchtower never said that they belive that jesus is the mandator between mankind and God.

According to Jesus of Nazareth he only came to meditate between God and a limited number of people that's why he told his disciples not to go to any other nations but only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel who are found among the Jews alone! Matthew 10:6

Of course Jesus' sacrifice will bring abundant blessings for entire mankind {John 3:16} but then it's the limited number of Jews that will connect people of other nations according to God's plan! Zechariah 8:23

So after Jesus' ascension to heaven the invitation to gather the limited number of his co-rulers was extended to other nations because the Jews for whom the invitation was prepared refused to respond! Matthew 22:2-14 compare to John 1:11-12

That's why Jesus called this limited number "little flock" to whom the kingdom of heaven belongs {Luke 12:32} but later he told members of this group that he has other sheep {John 10:16} the Bible book of Revelation clearly stated that the 144,000 who are with the lamb are those having his name and the name of his father on their foreheads {Revelations 14:1} this is because they're the limited number Jesus mediated for but later a great crowd sufficed {Revelations 14:6} these uncountable number came from the works of the little flock of anointed brothers of Christ.
So if anyone failed to acknowledge them Jesus have no business with such a person {Matthew 25:34-40} because they're the ones directly related to him due to their rebirth as BORN AGAIN Christians!

Please if you want to know more you can join me in my thread:

https://www.nairaland.com/6944186/study-bible-jehovahs-witnesses-2

I'm just punishing these faithless miscreants letting them know that no matter what they say Jesus actually return to this planet in the year 1914 and chose the International Bible Students Association globally known today as JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

Golden456:
I just want to ask you a question. I there any religion in the world today, that shows real love among themselves?

LOVE is God's most predominant quality that's why apostle John didn't say "Jehovah has love" rather he said "Jehovah is love" {1John 4:8} but we humans have fallen short of God's glory {Romans 3:23} it's really difficult to cultivate love for our neighbours the way God wants.
So God promised that His Holy Spirit will dwell with imperfect humans who are obediently following His son {Joel 2:28} that's why you can only notice love permeating the gathering of true disciples of Christ Jesus {John 13:34-35} please it's not because they want to exhibit such love but it's God's Holy Spirit in their midst that's working out what is IMPOSSIBLE in the gathering of imperfect humans! Mark 10:27

That's why if you live with JWs you will surely notice their imperfect state and conditions but after they've prayed together begging God to assist them in doing His will Jesus will come into their midst {18:20} and unknowingly they will begin doing what is not normal for humans who aren't perfect.

That's why Jesus said "by their FRUITS you will know" {Matthew 7:16-18} imperfect humans will surely exhibit the works of the flesh {Galatians 5:19-21} because we are all still in the flesh {Romans 7:15-25} but because we are ready to subject ourselves to doing God's will His Holy Spirit will WORK out these fine qualities in our gathering:
LOVE, JOY PEACE PATIENCE KINDNESS GOODNESS FAITH MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL! Galatians 5:22-23

So don't think each JW is perfect NO! It's God's Holy Spirit dwelling in our midst as we subject ourselves willingly to do His will that's working out those fine qualities.

That's why no matter what critics may say they can never ever find a better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses because they're not ready to humbly submit to theocratic order! Luke 11:23

Courz:
Stop giving useless stories. Mad MaxInDHouse aka Maximus69 the fraud, tell us where exactly in the Bible is 1914 shown to be the starting of Jesus ruling. The Bible is the word of God. It talks about his rulership. Surely, it must have that info about when Jesus started ruling. Show us. I have asked you JWs in this forum so many times but you all like to run away when you cannot answer questions. Show everybody where that date is in the Bible.

It's of no use to you! Matthew 7:6

Please don't kill yourself with BP because the name calling doesn't change anything, it's you that's suffering the burden no JW will waste our time explaining what you've vowed to stand for but later turned your back without finding another group.

Ọmọ i believe Jesus returned in the year 1914 both of us were taught to believe this so if you now decides to disbelieve that's your cup of coffee not mine.

Meanwhile if anyone wants to know my thread is there for them to come and chat with JWs!

Golden456:
na lie jw no be like all other church wey de put am as must to pay tieth. Jw no de use talk or anyother means de collect money from people! Na wetin you like you fit put for contribution box. NO BE MUST!!! and them no de force person with talk!

I didn't know how to reply the email please may i know why you sent me a mail?

Courz:
Mad MaxInDHouse aka Maximus69 the fraud, tell us where exactly in the Bible is 1914 shown to be the starting of Jesus ruling. The Bible is the word of God. It talks about his rulership. Surely, it must have that info about when Jesus started ruling. Show us. I have asked you JWs in this forum so many times but you all like to run away when you cannot answer questions. Show everybody where that date is in the Bible.

Templee333:
So Jesus returned in 1914 and yet no single star fell from heaven? did the sun and moon became dark that year? it is either u are a liar or Jesus lied to his apostles in Matthew 24,or maybe both of u are lying. choose one/

No matter how much it's paining you guys and no matter what you cook up i will continue to rub it in your face that Jesus Christ returned in the year 1914 and due to the fact that the IBSA were willing to make amendments in their understanding of Bible doctrines he chose them that's why you people can never ever present, produce, point, mention or name a better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses!

jaephoenix:
Lol. So they when they hear the Israelites have a 'mighty god', they should have immediately abandoned their homes and ran into the mountains?
Lol, Max, you really are smart guy
You're making perfect sense

YES! That's what people back then used to do.
The Gibeonites did just that and their lives were spared! Joshua 9:3-9

The problem is you're using the modern day thought to judge what people that lived when civilization is not like our days does.

jaephoenix:
If I see videos or photo of Yahweh creating the world, why won't I believe he exists?
In the case of these links…

https://www.hughjames.com/blog/jehovah%E2%80%99s-witness-elder-sentenced-to-nine-years-in-prison-for-sexual-abuse

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-46131196.amp

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1082136

… are you saying they were wrongly accused and jailed without evidence, even when they confessed?

Have you seen the video of a JW commiting it?

Jesus returned in the year 1914 and began working with the International Bible Students Association (IBSA) because they were willing to make amendments in all the doctrinal errors depriving the churches from performing up to expectation.
That's why Jehovah's Witnesses are the one and only group practicing what Jesus taught today let any critic present a better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses!

Ken4Christ:
The New World Translation is a documentary of lies. They have changed so many things in the Bible. They even call Jesus a god in John 1:1.
May God punish all those who published this Bible and those who market it in the mighty name of Jesus. Amen.

With that same Bible they have fulfilled what is recorded in the Bible book Isaiah 2:2-4 and repeated at Micah 4:1-3.
So just as Satan's agents back in the first century wish Jesus and his disciples evil your evil tongue means nothing to us because Jesus said
"by their FRUITS you will know them" Matthew 7:16-18
If the JWs are able to perform excellently with that translation of the Bible but all what you have is mouth actions like harlots {Revelations 17:5} then your hopeless, helpless, worthless and useless credulity is DEAD on arrival! James 2:18-26

correctguy101:
Okay...
But I seriously don't like discussing religious beliefs. I just know the Jehovah's witnesses are right in all they proclaim and that yes, the foolish suicide bomber is also correct as long as religious correctness is concerned.
I was recently robbed but I never saw what the robbers did as wrong. If I had my effects with me on that day, they would've lost one of their members. My not having my effects with me made me a ready and unwilling victim to their trade. So what's the biggie in making a fuss out of it all..I was just visited by the person who invited me today, don't know why he's so persistent but I suspect my elder sister's hand in it all. No biggie, it's part of the provision of life to enjoy what those around you are enjoying, so why would this daddy say no
Peace brother

Well i was a Muslim before my conversion so i know the big difference between the truth and falsehood in religion.

Have you noticed how the message of JWs often touch people's hearts?
Well that's because they have the truth but as most of us are used to one religion or another we always feel they're coming to steal us away from our religion.
I don't need to start telling you much because there's a reason why you typed the highlighted so follow whatever your heart tells you to do regarding the JWs.

Thanks and may you have PEACE!

jaephoenix:
I just listed them. Start with anyone

jaephoenix:
Your point?

Back in those days the mightiest warriors have whatever they want so since all those nations have heard about the mighty Israelites whose God is the Almighty they're not supposed to wait until they're told to evacuate the land the Israelites were coming to inherit!

jaephoenix:
These questions aren't synonymous. And yes there’s no god.
So please answer the question

Flying Spaghetti Monster (FSM)

Well i know you're just trying to crack jokes with that but please if you're the type who easily gets annoyed when someone disturbing you with questions suddenly turn everything to joke don't bring up anything like Flying Spaghetti because the next time you do i will always turn your questions into jokes no matter how angry you may be.

There is no child molester JW because i've not seen one therefore all those stories could easily be compared to what people around you are saying about God/Gods and since you never experience one you too never believe!

correctguy101:
This man, what do you mean by sincere?

I have been invited to the upcoming assembly of Jehovah's witnesses at Badagry on the 19th of this month and I plan to be in attendance, infact, I don already arrange my clothes for the day.

Well try to ask any question that comes to your mind when next you see JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

After the death of Jesus' first century disciples Satan began initiating his agents and mixing them with the church {Matthew 13:25} that's why John the last apostle to die could say the AntiChrist has been made manifest in his old age {1John 2:18} Satan's agents brought divers opinions and worldly philosophies which was later imposed on the minority until Christianity went into spiritual slavery which lasted for centuries until the year 1914 when Jesus returned as a mighty spirit being to inspect the church but just as he foretold the church has gone off course completely! Luke 18:8

Almost everything Jesus taught has been turned upside down by Satan's agents who are actively serving as weeds in the farmland.
If anyone is a farmer you will agree that weeds will overshadow the fine seed you planted when both are allowed to grow together and that's exactly what happened until 1914 when Jesus began inspecting the churches sadly he found only one group of researchers called International Bible Students Association (IBSA) while all other religions weren't ready to make amendments this group was willing to do so and Jesus began correcting them gradually.
All other religions were mocking the IBSA saying they don't know what they're doing anymore but they faithfully held unto the Lord who was directing them it was just as if Jesus was calling faithful people throughout the earth to leave the wrecking ship of false religions and come join the true Christians! Revelations 18:4
Today Jesus' group is standing out completely from all other religions back in 1931 the true God began calling them by another group name JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

So don't be disturbed as long as these religions aren't clinging unto Christ they will continue to scatter spiritually speaking {Luke 11:23} while only Jesus' true group will be united globally as ONE family! John 17:22

Jesus was born during the time babies were killed in Judah fulfilling a prophecy:

“A voice is heard in Raʹmah, lamentation and bitter weeping: Rachel is weeping over her sons. She has refused to be comforted over her sons, Because they are no more" Jeremiah 31:15[/b]

Fulfillment:

Then Herod, seeing that he had been outwitted by the astrologers, flew into a great rage, and he sent out and had all the boys in Bethʹle·hem and in all its districts killed, from two years of age and under, according to the time that he had carefully ascertained from the astrologers. Matthew 2:16

Michael said he will go and redeem mankind from their sins {Isaiah 6:8} the fulfilment was when Jesus began teaching in the temple {Luke 4:16-21; Isaiah 42:1-4} and started gathering faithful Jews who will go preaching and teaching people in their neighbourhood {Malachi 3:16} to make the identification of practicers of pure worship easy! Malachi 3:18

Jesus fulfilled this by commissioning a preaching and teaching campaign throughout Judea and to the most distant part of the earth {Matthew 28:18-20; Act 1:8} this is how the Messiah set the pace for believing Jews to attract people of other nations for their salvation! Zechariah 8:23

The Messiah must be cut off or killed after his earthly assignment and afterwards another nation mightier will be given the power to punish the Jews for turning against the Messiah {Daniel 9:26} this was fulfilled when Jesus of Nazareth was executed {Luke 23:46} and later Romans came and destroyed both Jerusalem and it's temple.


The Messiah will be counted among criminals {Isaiah 53:12} Jesus of Nazareth was killed alongside two thieves! Mark 15:27


The Messiah's flesh will not routine in the grave because it must be taken away as the sacrifice for sin {Psalms 16:10} Jesus of Nazareth resurrected the third day! Act 2:31


The Messiah will prove to be a God during his life time like Moses {Deuteronomy 18:18; Act 3:22} Jesus of Nazareth proved to be a God in his lifetime! John 1:1

The Messiah will establish a government that will continue to grow bigger and bigger among faithful and obedient people {Isaiah 9:6-7} Jesus of Nazareth became Christ and Lord so that faithful and obedient people throughout the earth are baptizing one another in his name till today! Act 2:38


The Messiah will later come back as a mighty spirit King to work with his earthly followers in gathering his subjects from one end of the earth to the other end {Psalms 110:1-3} Jesus of Nazareth returned in the year 1914 and ever since then a global family of peace loving worshipers sufficed throughout the earth {Isaiah 2:2-4} and the true God began calling them by another group name: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

jaephoenix:
1. Jebusites etc never attacked Israelites first
2. No one gave the Jebusites a quit notice before attacking them
3. Can you name the nations Yahweh said not to attack

Finally Jehovah said to me, ‘You have gone around this mountain long enough. Now turn north. And give this command to the people: “You will pass by the border of your brothers, the descendants of Eʹsau, who are dwelling in Seʹir, and they will be afraid of you, and you must be very careful.Do not engage in hostilities with them, for I will not give you any of their land, not even the space of a footprint, because I have given Mount Seʹir to Eʹsau as his possession. You should give them money for the food you will eat, and you should pay for the water you will drink. Deuteronomy 2:2-6

All those dwelling in Canaan already got the message to evacuate the premises through what God did to Egyptians that's why the Gibeonites took the initiative to go and make peace with God's people! Joshua 9:3-13

Back then the mighty nations sack weak ones so their general believe is that the mightiest God is behind the mightiest army so once they have heard of Jehovah's dealing with the most powerful nation of their time there's no reason to wait before making peace with the people whose God is the mightiest!

jaephoenix:
So what were the crimes of the Amalekites, Jebusites etc

Be specific because the story is much which nation do you want us to discuss about among all the nations God asked the Israelites to sack?

jaephoenix:
Which one do you stand for?
No JW mol@ster around you
OR
No JW mol@ster exists?
Be specific

Which one do you stand for?

You've not seen any God
Or
There is no God?
Be specific

jesusjnr2020:
You mean, angel Michael?

Please present the fine WORKS of your own Jesus {James 2:18-26} it doesn't matter where the Jesus JWs preach comes from after all none of us have ever been to heaven neither are we present when Jesus walked the earth but one thing is certain:

Jesus is a active worker who keeps working for his father's name to be sanctified {John 4:34} so any group of worshipers no matter what they say about Jesus is of no importance than the fine WORKS they're able to do in the name of Jesus! Matthew 7:16-18

So please present the group of worshipers practicing what Jesus taught that's better than what JWs are doing globally!

CrownOfClay724:
Where una dey see money?

I noticed you speak the pidgin language so you can now have a Bible in that language from Jehovah's Witnesses. Yesterday it was announced that our New World Translation Of The Holy Scriptures (NWT) is now available in two more Nigeria language:
Urhobo and African pidgin English
Both will be given to you without charge so next time JWs comes knocking on your door you can ask for your own copy of God's word in the language you appreciate.
As for your question please check the highlighted in red!

Newsextra014:
On Sunday, February 12, 2023, Jehovah Witnesses in Nigeria unveiled the New World Translation Bibles in two languages indigenous to Nigeria, Urhobo and Pidgin English.

The event coincided with the visit of representatives of the Governing Body of the organisation to Nigeria. It was broadcast live to Kingdom Halls and Assembly Halls of Jehovah’s Witnesses located around the country to over half a million people.

The key highlight of the event, the release of the New Testament of the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures in Urhobo and Pidgin English, was overseen by Mr. Jeffrey Winder, a member of the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

According to Mr. Jama Onwubuariri, Media Representative of Jehovah’s Witnesses, “Pidgin English is spoken by over 75 million persons in Nigeria.

Other speakers can be found in West Africa, Europe and the US. These speakers deserve to understand God’s Word without the hindrance of language.

The idea is to produce a Pidgin translation that could speak to the heart of Pidgin English speakers in different countries of West and Central Africa.”

“There are about 5 million users of the Urhobo language. The language has some dialects and has changed over time. This translation in Urhobo is done in accordance with the dynamism of the language and can easily be understood by various dialectal groups within the Urhobo community.” He said.

Napoleon Ogheneroro and Oke Ojonah who are both Urhobo speakers and members of the Jehovah’s witnesses in Lagos expressed delight on the launch of the Bible in West African Pidgin and Urhobo. 

They added that the move would immensely aid sharing the word of Jehovah with people especially in the rural areas and generally as many will understand better in indigenous languages than in English.

READ MORE: Bible Society Rewards Winners with N200k Cash Prizes, Other Gifts at Deaf Bible Quiz

According to Mr. Jahswill Stevens, another Media Representative of Jehovah’s Witnesses, “in a world full of challenges, the message of the Bible brings the comfort and hope we so desperately need. Our goal is not financial profit; we are motivated by love for people, because we want to help as many people as possible to have access to this message in their language.”

All translators are Jehovah’s Witnesses volunteers and have chosen to remain anonymous. Jehovah’s Witnesses have been publishing an increasing number of videos in Urhobo and Pidgin English with the content of Bible-based books, magazines, movies and songs with advice that helps people deal with everyday challenges. There is content available for all audiences: children, young people, parents, families.

One of the most widely distributed magazines in the world – The Watchtower – is also available in Urhobo and Pidgin English. The Pidgin and Urhobo language publications can easily be accessed from jw.org by selecting the required language from the top right corner of the site. Also, the publications, including the newly released Urhobo and Pidgin English Translations, can be downloaded and read on JW Library App.

All the material produced by Jehovah’s Witnesses are made available free of charge. Their publications are part of a voluntary work to help people around the world to understand the Bible. Expenses for their work are covered by donations.

Jehovah’s Witnesses have been active in Nigeria since 1921. They now number over 400,000.·Their educational work is carried out in over 240 lands and is voluntary. All publications produced by the Witnesses, including the Bible, are distributed free of charge. The Witnesses respect each person’s right to decide whether to listen to their message or not.

There are no national or social barriers among Jehovah’s Witnesses – they are from hundreds of countries, speak hundreds of languages and address one another simply as Brothers and Sisters

Some of the characteristics of the New World Translation and manuscripts were used to produce it are:

Hebrew (Old Testament) Text: The New World Translation of the Hebrew Scriptures (1953-1960, in English) was based on Rudolf Kittel’s Biblia Hebraica. Since then, updated editions of the Hebrew text, such as the Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia and the Biblia Hebraica Quinta, have included recent research based on the Dead Sea Scrolls and other ancient manuscripts.

These scholarly works reproduce the Leningrad Codex and include notes with comparative texts from other sources, such as the Samaritan Pentateuch, the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Greek Septuagint, the Aramaic Targum, the Latin Vulgate, and the Syriac Peshitta. The editions of Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia and Biblia Hebraica Quinta were consulted.

Greek (New Testament) text: In the late 19th century, scholars B. F. Westcott and F.J.A. Hort compared existing manuscripts and fragments of the Bible in preparing a standard Greek text that they believed faithfully reflected the original writings. The standard text of these scholars was used as the basis for this translation, in addition to other ancient papyri, probably dating from the second and third centuries CE.

Furthermore, standard texts such as those by Nestle and Aland and the United Bible Societies reflect recent scholarly research. Some of the findings from these surveys were included in the 2013 revision of the New World Translation of the Bible.

Christ Jesus said:

Na their fruits una go take know them. People no fit pluck grape fruit from chuku-chuku plant, and them no fit pluck fig fruit from chuku-chuku tree, abi them fit? So too, every good tree de produce good fruit, but every tree wey don rotten de produce useless fruit. Good tree no fit produce useless fruit, and tree wey don rotten no fit produce fine fruit. Matthew 7:16-18


“Because God love the world well-well, na im make e give im special Son, so that anybody wey show say e de put faith for-am, them no go destroy-am, but e go get life wey no go end" John 3:16

May you have PEACE!

When God said a child will be born to redeem mankind and finally crush Satan {Genesis 3:15} all those informed about this prophecy kept anticipating the coming of this child so by the time God called Abraham and told him that it's through Abraham's descendants that all the nations of the earth will be blessed {Genesis 12:3} Abraham was willing to make any sacrifice even loosing all his businesses just to follow this God to wherever He will lead him.
After Abraham had Ishmael and God repeated the same promise Abraham told God "thank you, for i now have Ishmael" but God told him

"NO! He is not the one chosen to bring forth the promised Messiah, though i will also make him great because he's your son but my promise will be fulfilled through the son your legally married wife (Sarah) will born" Genesis 17:18-21

So the promised Messiah (Christ) will come through the lineage of Isaac Abraham's second son and that's exactly what happened! Matthew 1:1-16

A lot happened prior to and after the birth of Jesus of Nazareth so let's pick these events one after the other.

To be continued....

MightySparrow:
Who are the ' them'?

Read the comments of all those following this thread you will know them please stop quoting me or i will ignore you.

peter0071:
there is no argument on the personality of Jesus... He is the Messiah... My Lord and King

Lots of ongoing arguments Sir that's why JWs are hated with passion for our readiness to prove that Jesus of Nazareth is the Messiah.
May you have PEACE!

Doremii:
But they won't legalise polygamy. It is a big crime in their land.

Whatever goes against the will of Elizabeth the Queen is the big crime not only polygamy.
Elizabeth gave women that power so that if the man decides to end the marriage he will slave for the woman for the rest of his life and he must not bring in any other woman to make a rival for her. So if the men now decides to let go of the women and marry themselves it's OK after all they won't have to maltreat a female all in the name of marriage.

After the rebellion in the garden of Eden God arranged for a future King who will lead faithful humans to salvation {Genesis 3:15} but can any human born through the production process from Adam's lineage qualify for this huge task?
God's word said:

None of them can ever redeem a brother Or give to God a ransom for him, (The ransom price for their life is so precious That it is always beyond their reach); That he should live forever and not see the pit. Psalms 49:7-9

So no human can redeem another that's why a mighty spirit being called Michael stood up for the salvation of faithful and obedient mankind {Daniel 12:1} so when God asked among the angels in heaven saying:

“Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?” Isaiah 6:8a
Instantly Michael responded
"Here i am, send me" Isaiah 6:8b

But why did Michael offered himself for such a huge task?

Well he is the Archangel {Jude 9} the first creature God made all by Himself {Proverbs 8:22} and of all the things both the father and Son created humans happens to be Michael's choicest creation! Proverbs 8:30-31

That's why by the time he (Michael) walked this planet as a human with love, mercy and tender compassion.

So what are the prophesies Michael fulfilled as the Son of man born without sexual reproduction?

To be continued....

jaephoenix:
Wtf are you saying?
We are talking about israelites here, not 'all other nations'

I know my comments will always attract you but then read carefully before quoting me.

Israelites were the only nation Jehovah called to establish pure worship with them while all others are worshiping demons so if they have nothing to do with the Israelites Jehovah won't mind them so it's the way they treated the Israelites and the place where he established pure worship that is causing the problem back then!

jaephoenix:
Who are 'the enemies of pure worship'? Be specific

They are nations that either attacked Israelites from the day Jehovah brought them out of Egypt or refuse to evacuate the premises the Israelites were ordered to establish pure worship. There are many nations that Jehovah warned them not to touch even their pin!

jaephoenix:
Actually, many of those Yahweh ordered to be destroyed were people who were going about their bizness, and not harassing the israelites

Study the Bible well before arguing there is no nation Jehovah ordered the Israelites to attack that's innocent!

jaephoenix:
… yet there were JW mol@sters which your elders protected from the law

Have you found any in your neighbourhood?
If so make the report and press the charges it's evil carrying news from afar if you also have the same group in your community.
Today Islam is globally known as a terrorist religion and there is no country on this planet where Muslims are the majority that you won't find them terrorizing people, why not use the same sense in this case?
I stand by my words there is no child molester JW around me!

Useless, hopeless, worthless churchgoer!

johnw47:
lost false jw mad max
any groups who don't repeatedly lie as you false jw's do
are of course better performing groups than you are
false jw's:
You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. Joh 8:44

MightySparrow:
Mention the sects and few of the doctrines that claim Jesus is not the Messiah.

If truly you believe then face them and explain to them you and i have nothing in common!