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And what has this got to do with the topic of discussion?
Ọmọ whatever is good for the goose is equally good for the gander, if anyone don't want to bow to God's standard in the beginning then anyway is a way.
You can't judge a woman who choose to marry more than one if you welcome men marrying more women nah money them go take settle their numerous partners so if they're rich your opinion is needless.

MrPresident1:
Quote this verse for me in the JW NWT Bible
Deuteronomy 22:9 KJV
Thou shalt not sow thy vineyard with divers seeds: lest the fruit of thy seed which thou hast sown, and the fruit of thy vineyard, be defiled.

If you're interested in knowing Google is your friend but from my own understanding those practicing it reason better than you because they don't see the children as the responsibility of one rather they feel children should be catered for by the society as a whole unlike your own people who will focus on just their biological child and leave other children unattended to only for those ones to become miscreants in their society hunting the ones they cared for.

MrPresident1:
I don't know anyone that is practicing polyandry, it is very uncommon in the world, because sensible people have sense and decency to know that it is going to be difficult to know who a child's father is, when his mother is married to two or more men, it looks foolish I want you to use your sense, engage your brain, tell me, when a woman is married to two or more men, if she gives birth to a child, who biologically owns the child?

Agent of Satan your own don finish there's no more free money from gullible people due to threats of your imaginary hell!

Ken4Christ:
Agent of darkness. Continue to work for the devil.

As what you don't know so that you can get the facts regarding what we believe instead of speculating without knowing what we have in mind.
144,000 are the born again Christians who are going to live with Christ in heaven but millions of JWs will be alive after Jesus has slaughtered all nonejws, we will destroy all the buildings you people set up that's not according to God's purpose and apportion lands for each survivor to build a home of his taste with his wife so that each person can have his own house and vineyard in Paradise on earth.
It's after we've cleared all the corpses of faithless people that resurrection will start beginning with the JWs that died last, they will be the first to resurrect followed by those that died before them that's how it will continue until it reaches people like John the baptist, and other prophets of ancient times.
As for Jesus' apostles and most of the ones whose names are recorded in the first century they are born again so they have gone to live in heaven as angels.

If you need further clarification feel free to approach JWs in your neighbourhood but don't think your mockery or anger can change that it's our belief and it's unchangeable!

Kobojunkie:
This is some serious levels of mindfuckery, believing Jesus Christ who made it known that He only came for the Israelites and israelites alone — even God's Judgement has been against His own Israel from the get-go— would come back to annihilate all those who this JW cult group loves to hate on, and basically, the entire earth will be no more than a gigantic graveyard while one 144,000 cult members rejoice. WOW! This one na serious-levels-of-FK religious ideas.

If you can't present a single group that has a better teaching yielding positivity then you're lying to your own soul.
The critics in Jesus' days never agreed that Jesus has the truth yet he was able to present a group that's practicing what he taught as the Christ when other groups are contradicting themselves yet claiming they're following what is found in the Mosaic laws.
So if you're saying you know 100 different sects doing what Jesus taught why are they not united as one group? so that the world can see what Jesus taught by observing one group not countless sects with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines yet you're saying they are practicing what one single man taught!

Only JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION is the Christian group because Jesus said that no matter how well organized and orderly they're doing things critics like you will never agree with them instead you will be criticizing them whereas you can't present any group that is performing better than them!

tctrills:
But a group with false teaches can't be the right group.

Why not ask those practicing polyandry?

MrPresident1:
When a woman marries two husbands and she gives birth to a child, whose child is it?

Wèrè, hell simply means GRAVE!

Ken4Christ:
Don't worry, you will become a symbol of stupidity of the highest order when you land in hell. Son of perdition.

Kobojunkie:
Kills billions of people who are not JWS? WHAT-THE-FK !

Kills everything living on dry land that's not in the Ark with Noah?
WHAT-THE-FK!
Kills everything living in Sodom and Gomorrah that's not with Lot?
WHAT-THE-FK!
Kills every firstborn in Egypt that's not with the Israelites?
WHAT-THE-FK!
The angels will surely kill everyone that's not JWs if all the above did happened through the actions of the same God! Luke 17:26-30

Genesis 24:2-3
Deuteronomy 7:3-4
Nehemiah 13 25-26
1Corinthians 7:39
2Corinthians 6:14

This is what i needed from you.
Then i believe you shouldn't object also if a rich woman decides to marry more than one husband because if the man is not OK let him leave her!

Akuruoulo:
Why should I not be comfortable?
If she doesn't like it, then she should come back home.

Your madness don get grade!
I quoted scripture that you can't explain while i explained what you're quoting with scriptures that Jesus spoke in symbolic terms but your madness and stupidity won't allow you think.
Hell means Grave!

Ken4Christ:
The usual pattern of Jehovah Witness. You make reference to scripture that seems to support your pre conceived opinions and turn blind eyes to many others that clearly contradicts them.

You have no defense against the reference I quoted that the souls of the slain cried to God for vengeance.

So, how could their soul cry if they are unconscious?

I know you don't have answer to hit.

You will keep on arguing until you enter the pit of hell. May the demons give you the torture of your life for being so foolish and hardened.

No single human can adequately practice what Christ taught it's as a group that Jesus' teachings could be effective so stop deceiving yourself. I'm not saying i singularly practice what Jesus taught but i discovered a group of people practicing it as a BODY that's why i joined them, before then i had my own religion which after cross examination i found out that even though i love doing what pleases God the imperfection in me will hinder me so i need a body of worshipers in whose midst i will continue to see how imperfect humans like me are fighting really hard to put on the new personality.

So i'm not a Christian if i don't have a body of worshipers with whom i should join to practice what Jesus commissioned! Matthew 28:19-20

tctrills:
I understand you claim to practice what Christ taught but the more I discuss with you, the more I see that you are so far from the teachings of Christ.
But it's ok, not everyone must follow Christ.

Akuruoulo:
If I are looking at Adam and Eve as a standard , then every man should be older than their wives.Every woman on earth should be younger than every man to avoid marrying an older woman.Etc.
That Adam and Eve standard make no atom of Sense .God created just adam and eve

If you have questions just go straight and ask everyone on planet earth knows that the only form of relationship that makes sense most is for a man to be older than his wife.
If your son should come home with an older woman as his fiancee even you and your family will object so tell yourself the truth!

Akuruoulo:
Stop stating senseless fact

Then state your own SENSIBLE FACTS let us all learn from you but first answer this questions:

Will you be comfortable if you own:

~Dad devides to take another wife while your mom is still alive living with him?
~Brother in-law decides to marry a second wife while your sister is still with him?
~Son in-law decides to take another wife while your daughter is still married to him?

Please try to be honest and sincere.
Thanks, God bless you and may you have PEACE!

It's liars that always claim their witnesses are far away!

Only JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION is practicing what Jesus taught that's why i joined them and i've given you practical applications of what Jesus laid down so that everyone can IDENTIFY his group even when thousands of different sects are claiming they believe in Jesus.
So present just one and back it up with Bible references let everyone learn from what Jesus established before people in Antioch began calling them "CHRISTIANS" Act 11:26
We all know that the man called Jesus Christ is just one person and everything he said about how to recognize his disciples are found written in the Bible. So stop beating around the bush Mr and don't waste my precious time!

tctrills:
This is where you are wrong again. You can't choose your owe terms or beliefs to judge other churches. We do not create your own definition of what Jesus Christ said we should watch out for.
So if you are ready, I would give you a list of churches that adhere more to the bible than you guys
Many of you churches are basically the same, you pull out 2 or 3 things from the bible, give it your interpretation and claim that's all God wants from us.

Says the author of your book!

AntiChristian:
Ants talk with one another!

A thousand and one critics always speak against one servant of the true God but they will never ever agree to worship with Love, Joy and Peace because politics and racism will always cause division.
But no matter the distance between servants of the true God we speak in harmony, love, Joy, Peace permeates our gathering and there's nothing that can cause division among us.
So my friend go and worship with your friends please try to do so with LOVE, JOY and PEACE at least to convince right thinking persons that you guys know what you're doing!

Lukuluku69:
I can see that you are getting in the excuse early. Lol

Please provide evidence from the Bible on what you posted and here you are saying another thing.

Don't worry carry on with your Cult Doctrines. At least I am not the only one saying you and them are in error.

Name one NOT two and let's see the practical application of what the Bible say in their midst nah

I've given you a group JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES and all what Jesus said we should watch out for in their gathering!

tctrills:
I can present 100 better performing groups. A good church is a church that is led by the revelations of God and not guesswork.
Jesus did not tell us that some guys in America are able to form a group and create their own teachings.
The same way your American guys created your church is the same way thousands of churches are created.
So stop the crap about better performing church. We all know 5he churches making a difference out there and making the world a better place for all.

Noted, thanks!

maasoap:
The only paradise that's in existence only exists in your head . The day you die, your paradise and hell die with you.

Jesus is not God he only served as God at a point in time just like Moses too did! Exodus 7:1
That's why John 1:1 that misinformed Churchgoers often quote said:

The WORD (Jesus) WAS GOD
So he is not God that we should worship he himself said he is also a child and worshiper of the same God that his followers worship! John 20:17

realoscar84:
God told the Israelites that another prophet will be sent to teach them what they must do to gain everlasting life! Deuteronomy 18:18-19
Why then do the Christian refer to Jesus as God? They started from the "3 God in One" as in holy trinity, as if that wasn't enough, they moved to "Jesus is Lord" which is still popular today. Then they moved to the height of blasphemy by referring to Jesus as God. Jesus is just another messenger of God Almighty just like others before and after him sent to liberate the Israelites but you lots have elevated him to the status of God. How illogical can that be? According to you guys, God was crucifixes, he bled and he even cried on the cross? Damn.

Find out what Hell means first before arguing but as for marriage God's standard in the beginning is ONE Adam= ONE Eve!

Youngzedd:
Hell and grave isn't same. Right now, there's no body in hell including Satan. Before you drag that Satan is in hell, read Job 1:6-7, Revelation 20:10-15 and 1 Kings 22:20-23 (lying spirit there is Satan who has been part of the heavenly court meeting). Christ went to the grave not hell, that was why some saints who died came back alive, they weren't in hell rather hade (grave). Grave is hade not hell. You can simply say underworld. He made them male and female doesn't contradict or disprove polygamy.

Hell simply means Grave!

Scarcity234:
Elisha and Moses came to Jesus from hell bah...
I don tire for una...
Nobody is in hell..

NOETHNICITY:
You people need to understand the above verse deeply as Jesus wasn’t talking about polygamy but divorce.

Will you agree that your:

©Dad is still one with your mom if he marries another woman now?
©Brother in law is still one with your sister if he marries another woman now?
©Son in law is still one with your daughter if he marries another woman now?

Osesbrainwave:
God striked someone dead in the bible because he pulled out instead of him to come in her.

I need enlightment on this because i no understand. It's in the bible, i just cant remember where

Rayban25 has answered your question better than i can do please read and meditate!

elated177:
What is the difference between the two - religion and spirituality?

Religion is gathering together and forming a devotional session with others but Spirituality involves having a personal relationship with someone in the spirit realms!

So a religious person always exhibit the same trait along with people who are members of a religion while a spiritual person is also a member but always striving to have a personal relationship with the spirit they're all worshiping as a group.

tctrills:
I am not against imperfect people, I am only against dubious people teaching the doctrines of men and claiming it is the word of God.
Again, there are no lanes in Nairaland, it's food for all.

Can you present a better performing group having the doctrine of God?

Because Jesus didn't tell us that the truth will make each person form his or her own opinion on doctrines rather people worshiping God will agree on terms and conditions of worship {John 17:22} and there will be love among them {John 13:34-35} they will never support using weapons to settle issues {Matthew 26:52} they will be known globally for the works Jesus commissioned {Matthew 7:16-18} while others will be confused about it they won't agree on how to carry out the work {Luke 11:23} so throughout the earth everyone will see that this is the one and only group of people practicing what Jesus taught! Matthew 5:14-16

Do you know any group of people practicing what you know as doctrine of God and please give scriptural backing not just quoting scriptures without practical applications!

AntiChristian:
Their words are reliable if Allah confirms it. In the Qu'ran, the ants informed one another of the coming of Prophet Solomon and his warriors/entourage and he heard them.

The highlighted says it all, that means authors of both books are different persons not one as they contradicts each other.
So it's better you stick to the one that appeals to you and allow others make their choice after reading both books!

True!
So if you and i aren't meant to agree on terms and conditions of worship simply because the Bible never specifically say certain things then there's no need arguing leave those who like to agree on terms and conditions of worship alone.

Christianity isn't about perfection but reasons why we must agree on the same line of thought therefore if you want to bank on seeing everything written in white and black then stay on your lane don't disturb others who believe in oneness in thought! 1Corinthians 1:10

tctrills:
Loooool. I understand you but then you need to learn that this is a public forum ok. Except the Muslim section the rest of Nairaland is open to everyone This is not a place for private discussion.

However, to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, CHRIST is the POWER of God and the WISDOM of God. 1Corinthians 1:24

CHRIST is the WISDOM of God.
This means the idea of sending someone as a role model for mankind to follow his footsteps closely {1Peter 2:21} is the most powerful and wisest way out for Adam's descendants to gain salvation! 1Corinthians 15:45

So don't say Jesus without adding that title CHRIST as the wisdom of God because anyone readings your post may find it really difficult to gain the insight on Paul's letter to our Christian brothers in Corinth, Jesus is the young first century Jewish carpenter but CHRIST is the person God declared as his son that we should look up to for our salvation, God said that to John the baptist {Matthew 3:17} and to three of Jesus' disciples {Matthew 17:5} after Jesus' baptism in the spirit! Matthew 3:16

This will help anyone reading to research and find the meaning of that title CHRIST instead of arguing blindly over the name JESUS as majority even among the Jews till today just take him for a prophet.

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

MaxInDHouse:
So there's NO REST!

sonmvayina:
Till we exit the matrix.....

So why say the highlighted regarding someone you hardly know in person?

sonmvayina:
God can never become a man...
Man is man
God is God...
God is the creator of heaven and earth, he cannot be part of creation...
Steve Jobs (may he rest in peace) cannot be part of the iPhone...

God told Adam that if he eats of the forbidden fruit he will die {Genesis 2:17} DEATH is the opposite of LIFE at death everything goes to oblivion {Ecclesiastes 9:5-10} nothing survives a living creature after death {Ecclesiastes 3:19-20} that's why it's reasonable to conclude that the terms used in the Bible book of Revelation aren't literal but symbolic.

Ken4Christ:
But the beast and the false prophet that were cast in are still there after over 1,000 years.

Death is not a cessation of existence. The soul lives on after death. You have been brainwashed to believe that the moment you are dead, you are unconscious till resurrection day.

Jonah died but he could narrate what happened to him when his lifeless body was in the fish belly. His soul went to hell.

Jesus died but his soul went to hell. He defeated Satan and collected the keys of hell and death from him.

The rich man who despised Lazarus died and went to hell.

Abraham is physically dead but he saw the ministry of Jesus because he is alive in the realm of the spirit.

Abel was killed by Cain but his blood was still crying vengeance because he is alive in the realm of the spirit.

Those who were beheaded in the book of Revelation cried to God for vengeance. How could they cry if they were unconscious? It was their spirit that cried to God;

Revelation 6:9-12
9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the SOULS OF THEM THAT WERE SLAIN for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

10 AND THEY CRIED WITH A LOUD VOICE, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

11 AND WHITE ROBES WERE GIVEN UNTO EVERY ONE OF THEM; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

The passage above affirms that the souls of those who died still lives on. And they are even clothed in white robes.

The highlighted is not true we talk to different kinds of people but once we discover that our discussions with a particular person always lead to endless and fruitless arguments we cut such a person off {1Timothy 6:4; Titus 3:9} our purpose of chatting with others is to come to agreement not just to argue for fun! 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3
Heart to heart talks on sacred matters should build up a body (congregation) of worshipers not always leading to disarray where each person just form his or her own personal opinion without coming to an agreement! 1Corinthians 14:33

tctrills:
I actually enjoy hearing others beliefs. The OP may not be from your church oh. I thought you said you talk only to church members.

Allah and Jehovah aren't the same and as for those atheists claiming scientists they also say "there's no God" so do you think their words are reliable?

AntiChristian:
Allah says Ants talk to themselves in the Qu'ran! Science confirmed it.