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43Ronin:
Bro if you really belive that through Adam & Eve the world was populated then there is nothing to discuss with you. My brother there were several Adams & Eve created by several creator gods all over the planet. Why do you think the different races/ tribes of the world have their different stories of creation? From the yoruba oludumare, to Edo Osanogbua to the native Americans, Israelite story, mesopotamia, summeria egypt The creation stories are similar. Hope you know that Abrahams father did not worship Yahwe(josh 24:14-15). These are all ET contacts with man. If you read the bible with this understanding it will make a lot of sense. Stories like the tower of babel begin to make sense to you. Don't worry u will post a topic here on ET contacts with man. You will understand better.

Well there's a difference between believers and story tellers. Only JEHOVAH (YAHWEH) is the Creator and He created only Adam and Eve. But since you won't like to discuss further it's OK, you can keep what you know!

Janosky:

Na coming Sunday morning sermon wey TenQ dey look for,no mind him gragra.
My Brother, You no code?

His theme : Mountain & Rock, Revelation 6:15-16.

He's just deceiving himself!
Out of all the churchgoers claiming Christians on this forum none as in NONE came to say anything about the topic and the other guy who said Jesus is Islam they quickly discharged so he won't put sand for their garri.
Yet they're still arrogant.
Please let them beg for it sebi we dey go find them for house them dey do gra gra!

What happened to your line?
Please flash my number, i've been trying to call you but it's not going. How's your side?

Please let them keep waiting for the time they will see people asking mountains to cover them from the face of Jesus literally!

Ignorant and arrogant people with crooked and twisted hearts!
Let their pastors teach them what the mountains means and who are those that will run to the mountains for cover.
Ṣebí they call us CULTISTS, no wahala let their pastors teach them!

Janosky:
2 other persons follow you mumu.
[b]How many days did it take an an angel to destroy Senacherib's army?
That is how long it takes 2 Thess1:7-9 to be done.
The fulfillment Revelation 6:15-17 is ongoing.
The climax is "the wrath of the Lamb" to FULFILL Matthew 24:37-39 & 2 Thess1:7-9.
In today's faithless world, atheism, wealth,fame, arms and bodyguards is the mountain/rock of refuge for faithless people, because they lack faith Jehovah and His son, Jesus Christ.
John 17:3 & John 14:1.Psalms 18:2 & 33:16-18, our salvation is from Jehovah and His son.
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The mountain/rock of Revelation 6:15-17 is NOT literal Zuma Rock or Obudu Mountain (nor any mountain) for the same reason that the faith of Abraham or the faith of Jesus Christ did not move any mountain from one place to another, even when you have the faith of Matthew 17:20.
We know & you know that Lagos is the most densely populated place in this clime, with an estimated population of over 21million.
For instance,let's assume that 30% of that number, roughly 7million, will be saved.
Oga,Which mountain in Lagos will over 14 million unsaved people go to seek refuge from the wrath of the Lamb?
Which rock in Lagos will be a source of refuge in the densely populated City ?
Since you were born which mountain/rock have fallen down on people and is no more existing?
TenQ, please carry your delusion go offline.

Chai! Janosky! Na so you generous reach?
Ooooooh! Why teaching them nah?
Gradually you're revealing the meaning of the mountains to them!

Janosky:
May God bless him.
but no blessing for his stupidity.
God can not bless that his folly on this forum.

JEHOVAH blessed Cornelius it's not automatic he needs to humble himself before he can claim Abraham's kind of blessings.

Through chatting with one of our sisters he got to know that the seals had been broken but he wants to know more so he ran to Nairaland where he can chat with Max, Janosky and Cornelboy the same people he has called names in the past due to chats on religion!

So i think he is blessed as he realized a unique thing in what he discussed with our sister and also had the privilege of coming to ask her brothers here, now it's left to him if he will be as humble as Cornelius who did everything just to receive God's blessings through His servants.

He has a choice to choose between two options trust in himself and continue with his former understanding or trust what he heard from our sister and do what is necessary to gain more!

MindHacker9009:
Thanks for this info temple of Serapis Chrestus shows who the followers of Chrestus or Christ were.

None of us can prove what we are reading today whether it's so or not but we have what no man can dispute:
All the things Jesus of Nazareth said about his future disciples are coming to fulfilment in our own time as we are all eyewitnesses to this fact:

Then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he will send out his angels with a great trumpet sound, and they will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds, from one extremity of the heavens to their other extremity. Matthew 24:30-31

So unbelievers can believe any story they that comes their way! 2Timothy 4:3-4

Faith is the assured expectation of what is hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities that are not seen. Hebrews 11:1

43Ronin:
All these stories are nothing but ET experiences with man. "Sons of god" are supposed to be spirit beings with high intellect & splendor.
Now if Satan is spirit,
©Why should he have pride like a human?
©Why should he rebel and want to overthrow God?
©If those angels are spirits why would they have feelings for the beautiful daughters of men, that they chose to marry them and reproduce with them. Do spirits have dick and sperms?
©How come the offspring of angels and man resulted to humans with great strength, height and intellect?
These "gods" were probably advanced humans from other planet systems that discovered earth and its beauty and wanted to stay. That why they can reproduce with humans and the outcomes is still humans because we share the same DNA. If a man sleeps with a dog will the dog become pregnant?
Ok after the children of angels messed up the whole earth "god" decided to destroy the earth but still left Satan and the earth still became sinful.

All you need is a free home Bible study with the true Christians (Jehovah's Witnesses)
I had lots and lots of questions but they calmly addressed all and i was satisfied.
I'll address two of you questions!

Now if Satan is spirit,
©Why should he have pride like a human?

Angels are created in the likeness of God, they are His spirit sons {Job 38:7} Adam was God's Son in the flesh {Adam 3:38} just as Adam became rebellious after noticing how great he is as God used His Holy Spirit to direct all other creatures to Adam so that he named them all {Genesis 2:19} Adam became prideful and he began nursing the idea of becoming like a God to other humans to be born on this planet since they will all come to life through him. But this agenda is hidden in him until Eve told him to join her in rebelling against God {Genesis 3:6} that's why the scriptures say:
Also, Adam was not deceived, but the woman was thoroughly deceived and became a transgressor. 1Timothy 2:14

Because he already had the intention to make himself God over the rest of mankind, God declared to Eve saying Adam (males) will always dominate Eve (females) after all she called him to rebel against God.

So angels who are greater than Adam have the tendency to rebel as they're with God in heaven seeing Him live unlike Adam who only heard voices angels can see the person whose authority they want to challenge! Jude 1:6

If Satan is a spirit
©Why should he rebel and want to overthrow God?

Satan is greater than Adam because he has authority over other angels in heaven but those angels only follow his orders which doesn't include worshiping him so for Satan to have worshipers and make himself God he needs to leave that place where those obeying him knows the true God then he can come here to slander the Creator whom Adam and Eve can't see! Genesis 3:4-5
Sadly the first human couple fell for the bait, they never became Gods because in their own domain Cain their first born killed Abel his brother and nothing they could do other watch helplessly. So after their demice Satan began working towards his ambition until he became the God of the world! 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19 compare to Luke 4:5-7

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

KnownUnknown:
And mine are for those still capable of rational thought, you cultish slowpoke.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm so you're pained that it's not everyone that could be carried away by your aggressive approach shey?

Well to you we may be cultish {Matthew 10:25} imbeciles {1Corinthians 2:14} but we will never ever become part of your so called people with rational thought {John 15:19} who are killing one another due to politics, racism and military services! Revelations 6:3-4 compare to Isaiah 2:4

psychalade:
Christians stubbornly refuses to research the origin of their faith fearful of what they might unearth.

The future is what matters most not the past neither the present.
True CHRISTIANITY promised a time when the world will become a Paradise. Of course that'll sound impossible when the thought of imperfect humans comes to mind.
But seeing the seemingly impossible promise gradually coming to fulfilment makes us believe everything that book said about Jesus of Nazareth!

KnownUnknown:
Man, stfu.

My comments are for those reading with open minds not just those with preconceived thoughts!

KnownUnknown:
If a Jewish historian finds a 2000 year old charred chariot and claims it is Elijah’s fiery chariot, would you believe him just because he is Jewish?

Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen"
The word BELIEVE connotes TRUST and trust comes in when you have something tangible to do with the subject.
Seeing Elijah's chariot could mean something for credulous individuals but it's of no use to true believers because we have "HOPE" in what God promised so our faith is built not on what was written alone but most importantly on being eyewitnesses of the progressive fulfilment even though we don't see anything supernatural neither are we there when those promises were made! Hebrews 11:1

CyberHustle:
Was he cast to earth before or after Adam?

Satan is one of the Princes (great angels) in heaven so he also had authority there as one of the Princes but he wasn't contented with all that, he wanted humans to worship him too since he has great powers. That's why he abandoned his former abode and come to planet earth for his selfish cravings! Jude 1:6

MindHacker9009:
Umm! You have been well trained to make up your own stories

1Peter 3:15

Now you know what most Nairalanders have noticed in me before you see them call out MaxInDHouse to come and defend the gospel.

sonmvayina:
MaxInDHouse come to this thread..
It's details the origin of Christianity.
Read again...

We are the true disciples of Christ! Luke 12:12

Thanks for your time Sir!

MindHacker9009:
None of the writers wrote "Jesus said to us or Jesus said to me"? They wrote the stories in the third person meaning they were not eyewitnesses of what they wrote about

Jesus' speeches, expressions and gestures is for all generations, that's why he ordered his disciples to go and TEACH people throughout the world what they have learned from him. Matthew 28:18-20
So you can't find that phrase in their records because by the time they penned down those words Jesus was no longer on this planet. It was God's Holy Spirit that brought back to their memories all that Jesus did. John 16:12-13

MindHacker9009:
But GOD sent Jonah to save the people Nineveh from his anger. Yet the Roman Empire with their idol worship was occupying Israel and crucifying Isrealites who were against the Roman occupation and Jesus asked His Father to forgive them.
You just like making up your own stories

Assyrians were ruling the world back then and they're taking their evil deeds too far, it's not about Israelites but the evil done even within Nineveh. Romans weren't evil rather they're COLONIZING the world of their time but Jews who has lost their privilege found themselves under the Roman colonist they (Jews) were fighting against Rome while their brothers in Samaria never protested against Rome.
So the Jews were wrong. Until God's Kingdom is established all humans must be subjected to whichever nation emerges as world ruler.
That's the purpose of Nebuchadnezzar's dream! Daniel 2:1-45
The Jews were arrogantly protesting against what their own God has granted, ordinarily paying their dues (taxes) even became an issue that they want to discard.
Jesus came to TEACH them what they should be expecting when God's Kingdom comes as foretold in the Bible book of Daniel 2:44 but the Jews don't just want to agree with that prophecy that's why the Romans were later permitted to destroyed their city and temple!

TenQ:
I don't ever know a student who asks to resist a failed exam on their own terms (apology from the examiner): except such is high on something!

TenQ:
I don't ever know a student who asks to resist a failed exam on their own terms (apology from the examiner): except such is high on Hard drug!

You're blessed Sir!

Carefully read the Bible book of Proverbs 8 then prayerfully pay rapt attention to verses 22-36 with thorough meditation.
I'm sure you will find the answer! Proverbs 2:1-5

TenQ:
Pens up!
Exam over!!
Eight pages of Outside the correct Answer !
ZERO PERCENT!

Have it your way Sir!

If you have a business worth millions and you noticed that a sect is not welcomed in your neighbourhood by the majority, will you also do exactly the same thing the school authority did or risk your business becoming news due to mob action against the sect?

TenQ:
At least you've seen the folly of Janosky 's view of Rev 6:15-17

Some people are too full of themselves: apology for telling you the truth !?

The TOPIC of discussion of was:
A Question JW cannot Answer

247 posts and Eight Full PAGES and you have not answered the simple question: you require yourselves to accept a yet to be made apology.

There is NO need , we know you don't have an answer. It's just a ruse to have an excuse not to have a reason for exposure of your gross ignorance as You very well know that no apology is NEEDED to be given.

Good!

So keep your conclusion that JWs can't answer your question nah!

MindHacker9009:
Which of them wrote "Jesus said to me"?

"For God so love the WORLD that He gave His only begotten Son" John 3:16

Jesus' speeches, expressions and gestures is for all humans as the Messiah. So none of his disciples could use that phrase because they know that whatever comes out of his mouth is for one and all!

MindHacker9009:
Luke 23:34
Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.” And they divided up his clothes by casting lots.
Yet He was very hard on His own people but the Romans He asked His Father to forgive

When God set a capital punishment (death) for His own people (Israelites) for sins like Idolatry, spiritism, fornication and many more nations like Rome knew nothing wrong in these things.
Lesson learned: Because only the Israelites had God's laws they are His only focus {Exodus 19:5} and they supposed to live up to their name as His special possession.
So to whom much is given much is expected Sir!

sonmvayina:
MaxInDHouse come to this thread..
It's details the origin of Christianity.
Read again...

Na wah for Maximus o!
Everyone believe Maximus is the only person that's active when it comes to Jesus' matter.

Well this is sufficient for you:

OkCornel:
Is that what the Jews think about Jesus Christ?
If yes, kindly provide evidence of Jewish historians and scholars unanimously agreeing Jesus Christ is Serapis.
A Nigerian man claims to know more about Jewish history better than Jewish historians and scholars…this seems to be the latest joke in town.

MindHacker9009:
Not one person during the time of Jesus wrote anything about Him and there were many historians during that time. All the writers of the NT were not born during the time of Jesus and never saw Him. Time for believers of the NT to reboot their brain.

Who told you this?
Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were all Jesus' contemporaries but two of them (Matthew and John) worked with him during his earthly ministry as (Apostles) closest confidants!
So you lied Sir!

MindHacker9009:
How can a messiah come out of Nigeria during the occupation by the Europeans and the messiah was pro european and no writer during his time and ministry wrote anything about him. Time for beleivers of the NT to reboot their brain

Highlighted flawed your illustration logically!
The Messiah (Christ) was neutral regarding all human governments!

kenzysmith:
God forbid bad thing. Fellow nairaland pls note not every body on line is human dey are demons in nairaland

Why not test every spirit {1John 4:1} by asking thought provoking questions {Matthew 7:7-8} instead of arguing blindly?

TenQ:
So, has this Scripture been FULFILLED?

Answer will only come on another thread by either Janosky or Cornelboy if they're willing to accept your APOLOGY otherwise whatever your Jesus say should be sufficient for you!

kenzysmith:
gerrat go focus on your Muslim and leave us alone to worship who we want to worship ode

OK TRUTH dey pepper you shey?
Well i'm a minister of Christ Jesus if you should know!

ANTIlSLAM:
Mumu oya show us your own hall nau abi google don disappointed you nii as usual

You sha dey see Church as approved by Jesus Christ and we the Church-goers that you're mocking are so happy because Jesus Christ is by our side. Oya show us your own hall lobatan, we want to see how Jesus Christ approved you Hall-goers odè

Because the translators used the English word "Church" shey?
Ọmọ grow up!

ANTIlSLAM:
Even if you use herbs for ritual is not against your own God abi? Olopolo dobale didinrin
https://dailypost.ng/2021/08/07/herbalists-kill-customer-for-alleged-money-ritual/
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2021/08/herbalists-sell-heart-of-man-seeking-money-ritual-for-n20000/

Look carefully at the picture you are posting as evidence of HERBALISM then show me where a single HERB could be sighted in that picture?

kenzysmith:
This man is an anti Christ is a devil incarnate who listen to wordly songs. I pray one day he encounter Jesus

What about the pastor who had an encounter with your Jesus and still declared your God is powerless?

LordReed:
Riiight. The coming soon Jesus that has been allegedly coming soon for over 1980 years. LoLz. As you can tell I don't buy that story and the so called intelligent god would know that waiting 1980+ years is not the definition of soon.

This is what makes me questions the sanity of those churchgoers calling JWs false prophets for anticipating God's Kingdom. It makes sense if an atheist like you ran to such conclusion after all you don't believe the God who made the promise but as for those claiming they also believe in this promise how come they just dismiss the thought that when someone say "coming soon" 1989 years doesn't have any correlation with the phrase?

Well the truth is that it's only the JWs who always anticipate the coming that are faithful just like ancient servants of God who were eagerly anticipating the coming of Christ and his kingdom! 2Peter 3:3-4