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Templee333:
Mr. Maximus how are u sure that u will not wake up one day & walk away from this ur most cherished "truth"?

Just like other sheep i am 100% sure that there is no other truth elsewhere apart from Jehovah's Witnesses organization!

Reason!

Each lost sheep will always as in ALWAYS ask for the BETTER PERFORMING group than the one he is presently because that's our goal, and for the past 30 years that i've been in this journey there has never been any story teller or critic that has thought or mentioned or present or talked or point to a BETTER PERFORMING GROUP THAN the WATCHTOWER!

So do you see why it's impossible to think that Maximus will leave God's organization?

Shalom!

Templee333:
shalom? What shalom? This topic is to enlighten u guys on why some people walk away from ur Jw. But u r here talking abt focusing on ur present bible studies. When u finanly win them into ur jw org won't they come face to face with the facts have listed here. They need to be prepared b4 they start taking that path that many have taken before & quit after waking up

I passed through all of that yet here i am today one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
According to Jesus the truth will land on different kinds of soil (hearts) and each hearer will have to determine on what category his/her heart will fall! Matthew 13:3-9

So there's no need to take it PERSONAL the lost sheep of the house of Israel {Matthew 10:6} they will never be happy until they're with the flock!

Don't worry yourself if i Maximus after my journey can find the truth, other prospective sheep will also find it no matter what! Matthew 7:13-14

Thanks, God bless you and may you have PEACE!

ANTIlSLAM:
You were moribund when talking before abi

Shalom!

Shalom!

zealander10:
You’d be glad to know that Jesus never spent his time and energy defending himself before opposers. He simply said wisdom is justified by its works and went on his way. Matthew 11:16-19
Unfortunately, we cannot do much about the propaganda spread about us now. Even the Jews spread propaganda about Jesus and Paul. Acts chapters 21-24 is filled with such accounts and surely, some were led astray. Jesus also acknowledged that even though the seed of truth might be planted in one’s heart, the wicked one i.e. Satan can steal it away from that person. Matthew 13:19
So let our aim be to focus on the ones the Bible describes as being “rightly disposed for everlasting life”, that is, our present Bible studies. Acts 13:48

Shalom!

ANTIlSLAM:
The question is Did Jesus recognized your occultist JW abi Jesus is the founder of your JW? not the trash you typed above. The true Jesus disciples and followers are NOT BAN OR VANISH In Arab countries as your occultist religion WERE BANNED AND VANISHED IN ARAB COUNTRIES. You can come with another lies, I'm ready to expose you
Jesus told her... is that condemnation according to your leaders in JW? why turning Bible upside-down?
Why can't you visited one of the hospitals that are everywhere rather than chosen the one you're condemning today built by the politicians you called Catholic missionaries?
Had it been you've died without their medical help, will you have an opportunity typing rubbish, you this ungrateful element?
So all the Children of God are Politicians aswear JW has caused you havoc beyond irreparable. Na only you in JW be the Christians that turns Bibe upside-down abi?
You were banned in all Arab Countries whereas we Children of God you called Politicians are in All Arab Countries with our Churches/temples constructed or built all over these Arab nations where we can serve our God day and night in his Holy Temple, you can't locate where your kingdom hall is located at in any Arab nation yet you called yourself Christians in JW claiming you're not using weapons whereas you failed to ask the reason why your occultist JW religion was banned and vanished
Is the President of Nigeria not your leader in Nigeria, are you not feeling the heat of this goverment even in your occultist JW religion? You want to dissociate yourself from Nigeria abi? Nkan wa seyin bayii sir
Abeg where did I condemn or ashame of my religious leaders? Daddy sir, shey you don eat sha? You need ogi (pap) and orogbo (kola nut) to get your senses back, sebi you believe in traditional medicines as you said earlier?
Look at this mumu, you don answer my questions already tell Nathan H. Knorr to apologize for you for this disaster he has caused your life

Keep on asking! Matthew 7:7

Templee333:
What about the 10 times false prediction of the 2nd coming? Have u nothing 2 say? @maxindhouse

I have noticed you're biased in your findings but that will not stop me from showing you the folly of your fellow critics!

There's a difference between prediction and anticipation, God's people have always been anticipating the day and hour God's Kingdom will come because that's where all their hope lies!
You can read the Bible for yourself to see how many of God's people in the past have been anticipating God's Kingdom!

John anticipated the Kingdom of God to start operating after baptizing Jesus! Matthew 11:2-3

The Apostles anticipated the Kingdom after Jesus' resurrection! Act 1:6

Even after other Apostles have died through brutality John was anticipating Jesus' return in the first century! Revelations 22:20

So God's people kept anticipating their kingdom with fervent prayers as they keep preaching zealously and industriously teaching in all their neighbourhood.

Jesus promised them that all these wickedness will end after they completed the their earthly assignment of gathering subjects of God's Kingdom throughout the earth! Matthew 24:14

So i don't see what they said as predictions because it's all about what God has promised them in the Bible it's all anticipation of what their God promised them.

Predictions or Prophecies are things that nobody has heard or read anywhere before not what has been written for everyone of us to read in the scriptures, then some people now demonize faithful ones for anticipating it.

No nah!

Well when you're ready for mature discussion let me know because using different monikers to pour out your PERSONAL grievances makes no sense to me!

See you some other time!

zealander10:
Hello MaxInDHouse and Janosky, I couldn’t get past the first page because the air of toxicity is too much. I’d suggest that you two stop engaging in online debates with opposers because it’s counterproductive and I’m sure it doesn’t leave you spiritually edified. Moreso, it brings reproach upon Jehovah and his beautiful organization. 1Corinthians 4:9 says that we are a theatrical spectacle and as such, cannot be found slinging mud at people who want to play dirty. We’re too clean and elevated for that. Titus 1:15 says, “All things are clean to clean people, but to those who are defiled and faithless, NOTHING is clean, for both their minds and their consciences are defiled..”
So why should we be bothered about how the truth is perceived by some ?

Thanks for this, the problem is that this people come on line to tell lies about God's organization so even though one choose to ignore they will tag you knowing that you're one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
As for me i don't get personal with anyone, i was a Muslim before i found God's organization so i take things cool with everyone no matter what they say.
It's what i found that matters to me not what they say! 1Peter 3:15

However thanks my brother!

Courz:
Mad MaxInDHouse.

PERSONAL over what i choose to do with my own life o!

Courz:
Tell us why the names of the JW Cartoon characters, Caleb and Sophia, happen to be names of two Masonic lodges.

So this is also part of what they used to lure you out of God's organization!
I'm sorry for you!

Courz:
Mad MaxInDHouse, Tell us why the One True religion, Watchtower is running you JWs and your Mother Freemason Cult IBSA at the same time yet still claiming Pure Worship. Is that Pure Worship to you? Remember, IBSA are Freemasons free to celebrate Christmas, birthdays, and free to do everything you JWs prohibit showing that all your doctrines are Made up. A sham! Explain that to us.

What they used to lure you away has no effect on me because i know what i saw, heard and read before i became one of JWs.
So getting PERSONAL over what i choose to do with my life will only makes you a sadist!

Courz:
Tell me why these Satanic symbols are all over your Cult.

Courz:
Tell us why the names of the JW Cartoon characters, Caleb and Sophia, happen to be names of two Masonic lodges.

For you to live long stop taking this PERSONAL!

Courz:
dedicating your miserable life to it?

Getting PERSONAL!

Courz:
Shut up your mouth!

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, oteneaaron you're getting it all wrong by making this PERSONAL!

Courz:
Mr intelligent officer of the DUM DUM, did you not investigate this Cult as an intelligent officer before delving into it and dedicating your miserable life to it? Are you aware Jesus warned about Watchtower? Were you not coached on Christianity before moving from Frying pan to Fire? Jesus said Let no one deceive you for False Prophets will appear and say The Lord's day has come! The time is near and has come! Jesus is hiding here, you just can't see him (denoting invisibility) , come and see! Who has done all these things? You JWs! Jesus even says Don't believe them You all said Jesus has already come but invisibly. You all prophesied that the end has come 10 times! 10 good times! Mad MaxInDHouse. See? Jesus was referring to you JWs as the False Prophets. You see your life for outside? You're in Satanism now! Congrats!

You're back shey?
No wahala. Just stop taking it personal because you can never convince a right thinking person to leave his religion if you're going about with PERSONAL grievances!

A lesson for all RELIGIONISTS!

What people say against your faith shouldn't be taken personal because you're not the founder of the religion, there's what you found that draws you to the religion, those speaking against your religion never saw it!

Most people gets overly anxious or aggressive when they come in contact with critics which often leads them to make rash decisions over what they will do next. That's exactly what use to happen to exjws because they felt like fighting for what is personal forgetting that the religion is not their establishment and that all critics are speaking against the one who established the religion. So you are speaking for what you found while critics are speaking against what they can't understand NOT YOU!

That's why most critics who have been former members of a religion become abusive as they try to convince someone else that they made the right decision for leaving their former religion taking everything PERSONAL!

oteneaaron:
Awwn
He even went to my profile.
I must be giving you literal nightmares.
COWARD.

Walahi talahi Courz don die!

On a faceless forum with lots of sections to go an atheist is interested in only politics and religion (the only two concepts that matters most to exjws) then all the various forms of religion claiming Christians he left only to malign just a single group:
The WATCHTOWER organization!

Then coincidentally he found a perfect partner with the same line of thought only to create threads for that one to come dropping stories and pictures of FREEMASON and correlating with WATCHTOWER!

But this is a person who strongly believe that Jesus never existed yet he will never engage a member of any other religion that claims Christ followers except JWs (evidence that he once believes that all other religions are FAKE apart from Jehovah's Witnesses) then the two monikers are only interested in JWs.

What a miracle?

oteneaaron:
COWARD.
Why are you afraid of your own shadow?
Why don't you drop your real name?
If you can "prove" on Nairaland that Oteneaaron and Courz are one and the same person, it shouldn't be difficult for you to do this in a court of law.

OK Courz is dead now shey?

No wahala, let's assume you're not Courz so leave the stage for Courz to perform small!

oteneaaron:
If you are not a COWARD who is scared of his own shadow, stop hiding behind your moniker and drop your real name.
My lawyer can take it up from there.
When we meet in court, you can show your proof and explain to a judge why oteneaaron and Courz are one and the same person.
If you are confident and not a COWARD, drop your real name and we can start from there.

Ọmọ switch over to Court jàre let's view more of your newly fabricated stories with artistic impressions!

Templee333:
"A group that has proved to be the best on planet earth". Proverbs 27:2

Let someone else praise you, and not your own mouth; Others, and not your own lips. Proverbs 27:2

Maximus a former Muslim is here to praise the organization that's producing the fruitage of FAITH globally! Isaiah 2:2-4

So if a Jew, Samaritan, Arab, Asian or African become Christ disciple he's not condemned by Proverbs 27:2 for praising the group Jesus established!

@Oteneaaron, please use that account let's see the new artistic impressions you've got to use for your FREEMASON bruhaha!

oteneaaron:
If you are not a COWARD who is scared of his own shadow, stop hiding behind your moniker and drop your real name.
My lawyer can take it up from there.
When we meet in court, you can show your proof and explain to a judge why oteneaaron and Courz are one and the same person.
If you are confident and not a COWARD, drop your real name and we can start from there

Ọmọ stop disgracing yourself here, no lawyer is interested in cases having to do with faceless forums where neither real names nor pictures are used.
I have proved to be a warrior by standing up for my faith despite all your lies against God's organization using another account to post nonsense and ingredients up and down.
So go and eat your puff puff if you're hungry but just don't cross your boundary by mistreating a law-abiding citizen thinking you will get away simply because such a person is a JW. For now there's still FREEDOM Of WORSHIP, EXPRESSION, SPEECH and ASSOCIATION in Nigeria.
Until the world go crazy when all the people will leave thieves, murderers, fraudsters and other evildoers only to hunt JWs continue disguising here as Courz maligning a group that has proved to be the best on planet earth!

ANTIlSLAM:
Are you Jesus?

Did Jesus recognized your occultist JW abi Jesus is the founder of your JW?

According to Jesus himself his true disciples will later be called "CULTISTS" for PRACTICING exactly what he taught {Matthew 10:25} going by the way you're labelling JWs for telling the truth definitely they are his true followers!

ANTIlSLAM:
[b]Where did Jesus condemned the Samaritan woman in John 4:22?

The woman acknowledged Jesus to be a TRUE prophet of God {John 4:19} but Jesus told her that Samaritans are worshiping what they don't even know then concluding salvation can only come through the Jews! John 4:22
Is that not what's been making you angry sinces? Well Catholics aren't Christians Sir, that's not a condemnation but fact!

ANTIlSLAM:
Why condemning the hospital that saved your life, had it been you've died by now will you have an opportunity typing rubbish?

Hospitals are everywhere today so if that one is not there sick people will be treated elsewhere nah? So wise up my guy people has been sick and they got treated before Catholics built their hospitals!

ANTIlSLAM:
All Children of God are politicians according to your ignorant isn't it? Only you in occultist JW are Christians by turning the Bible upside down, is that what you learnt from Jesus Christ?

Politicians are people who force their policies on neighbours using weapons to intimidate them after gathering followers after themselves. If members of your religion don't practice such then you're not a politician but all other religions on this planet support such idea except JWs whose leaders don't use physical weapons yet they're the most respected by those following them unlike you who is ashamed of your leaders both physically and spiritually. Your president you're condemning, your religious leaders you're ashame to acknowledge because they all failed you! Revelations 6:16

ANTIlSLAM:
WILL YOU ANSWER ALL THESE QUESTIONS or Still on the same escaping route, Mat. 7:7? You this ungrateful element

Apologies first!

oteneaaron:
Wow
What an interesting origin story of your journey into a MIND CONTROL CULT.
Give it up for most intelligent former intelligence officer!!
What a broken record from the world's most intelligent former intelligence officer!
There are facts with evidence that proves to show beyond any reasonable doubt, that your JW/Watchtower Organization is a HIGH CONTROLLED GROUP AKA A VERY DANGEROUS CULT. You are a MIND CONTROLLED cult member who was been commanded to be IGNORANT by 8 men in New York or else you risk been excommunicated. What you are doing is called LIBEL - look it up. If you are not a COWARD who is scared of his own shadow, stop hiding behind your moniker and drop your real name. My lawyer can take it up from there.
When we meet in court, you can show your proof and explain to a judge why Oteneaaron and Courz are one and the same person.
If you are confident and not a COWARD, drop your real name and we can start from there.

Chai see lowest level of intelligence!

Ọmọ it's about God's organization not a case between you and me rather it's between you and the God of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, therefore i have no business with you no matter what you call JWs note that you and i had no issue so such a case has nothing to do in the court of law.

Wise up my guy, Oteneaaron, Courz, Maximus, Cornelboy, Janosky aren't real names so there's nothing to establish in the court of law.

If you get the liver for real cross your boundary by mistreating any JW according to what the law stated then you will know that your lawyer will abandon you when he founds out that you're dealing with a member of the group that knows the law inside out.

Until then keep disguising here on Nairaland Mr oteneaaron (Courz)

KnownUnknown:
I’m not engaging with this because “You’ve got aggression written all over you”. Everything you wrote is nonsense anyway because CHUG CHUG is God. No need to add “only true god” because it’s apparent that CHUG CHUG is The One.

We're both PREACHING, your comments is to frustrate believers in God so i'm using mine to frustrate your effort.
So never think my comments is to convince you alone but in actual fact it's a two edged sword {Hebrews 4:12} proving how stupid you are while thinking you figured out everything in the Bible then others who truly appreciate facts will read and see your folly!

KnownUnknown:
And it’s clear by what they wrote that they had no problems with slavery and thought it moral. Note Ephesians Chapter 6 as posted for a clear example.

The God of Israel is the one and only true God he decided to leave mankind so they can learn the hard way since our first parents chose to liberate themselves from under his guidance!

Slavery came as a result of what Adam and Eve wanted to become:

"in the very day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like God, knowing good and bad" Genesis 3:5

Adam and Eve are already like Gods to lesser creatures so for their godship to be complete generations of mankind must worship not God but Adam and Eve as we will all become their slaves!

Sadly majority of mankind followed the footsteps of the first human pair so God wants us to learn from experience. But among His own worshipers he has given them a law to show his displeasure regarding slavery:

“If you buy a Hebrew slave, he will serve as a slave for six years, but in the seventh year, he will be set free without paying anything" Exodus 21:2

Back then the descendants of Abraham are known as (Hebrews) so if an Israelite should use his money to buy a slave and the slave happens to be Hebrew then he must serve his owner for six years for the owner to get back his money with which he bought his brother!

Throughout the world of that time there's no nation with such thought except the Israelites because their God detests the idea of slavery.
So the Israelites realized that if they want to buy a slave they mustn't buy a Hebrew unless they have the intention of setting him free!

Again in all other nations slaves could be killed at will since they're like properties to their owners but that's not the case in Israel! Exodus 21:12

I really wish you calm down and study God's word (Bible) with God's people (JWs) i'm sure you will appreciate as in LOVE the true God as you do so, then you will know why JWs are the most dedicated worshipers of their God on this planet!

Janosky:
Oteneaaron is Courz confirm!

It's when i became one of Jehovah's Witnesses that i began to realize what Jesus said: "No man can come to me unless the Father, who sent me, draws him" John 6:44
Definitely Jehovah has noticed me right from childhood as i journeyed through thick and thin until i finally surrendered to the truth.

Oteneaaron (Courz) really tried to play smart but he has forgotten my former profession, in the intelligence we don't view matters with the lense of common people neither do we listen like laymen rather we try to figure out what is yet to be revealed by the one speaking!

Out of all the religions claiming denominations in Christendom oteneaaron opened a thread and singled out the WATCHTOWER and again he wants me Maximus (a JW) to defend the historicity of Jesus Christ but stupidly allowed Courz a professed believer in Christ to post over 100 comments against WATCHTOWER without correcting Courz at least just once that Jesus never existed, instead he always join all other religions to criticize JWs yet he's claiming Jesus never existed.

Well from the training we received from the intelligence that's impossible unless he oteneaaron is the same person as Courz, but to be sure that i'm not mistaking i tried to see what exactly Courz had in mind regarding the teachings of Jesus Christ only to find out that his only interest is to malign the WATCHTOWER, he doesn't care a bit about Jesus Christ or his teachings. That's how i found out that he's the same person.

As for the case of the Court of law that's just a way to show his displeasure for revealing his true identity, oteneaaron (Courz) is an atheist and atheists are the dumbest set of people on this planet when it comes to the matter of law because they defy all cultural and traditional values which stems from faith in deities and religiosity (the fear of deities) is what brought about human LAWS. Romans 2:13-15

So no atheist can practice law and succeed in that field because no lawyer can decipher the inner thoughts of common humans without having to do with RELIGION the one and only key to man's inner thoughts!

ANTIlSLAM:
They are politicians according to your leaders in Jw abi, na only you in occultist Jw be the Christians that turns Bible upside down isn't it? Your activities were banned and vanished in Arab countries and you called yourself in occultist JW Christians.
They are not Christians but you went to the hospital they built for your healing. If not for their kind gesture you could have died, they saved your life but you have mouth now to condemned them, you this ungrateful element from the occultist JW religion

The true God chose Israel as a people dedicated to him {Exodus 19:5} later the nation divided after the death of their third human King (Solomon) the Northern part called "Samarian" and Southern part (Judah)
Due to the presence of the descendants of Levi in Jerusalem all true prophets afterwards kept telling the Israelites that whatever form of worship that comes from any part of the earth is not approved except that which has the hands of Levites. But Samaritans disbelieve such statement and continue their religion until Jesus Christ began his ministry, then a lady raised the question over what has been causing hatred {John 4:7-9} between the Samaritans and Jews {John 4:19-20} Jesus frankly told the lady that Samaritans aren't worshiping the true God and that only Jews has pure worship! John 4:22

But the same Jesus related an event where a Jew was robbed and his fellow Jews (who are all worshipers of the true God according to Jesus) failed to help their Jewish brother but a Samaritan came to his rescue and saved his life! Luke 10:29-37

Yet Jesus could open his mouth and say "You (Samaritans) worship what you do not know; we (Jews) worship what we know, because salvation begins with the Jews" John 4:22

Going by your analogy Jesus who condemned the worship of Samaritans where a GOOD man came to save one of his Jewish people must be an ungrateful element and founder of a cult, right? Matthew 10:25

oteneaaron:
I am against ANY form of organized religion that uses dogma and doctrine to purposely control the minds of their members.
The keyword is MIND CONTROL.
Let us consider an example :
As a JW, your CULT leaders have commanded that you MUST NOT do any external research into the true origins of your CULT.
They have commanded you and MaxInDHouse to be IGNORANT and you swallowed it hook line and sinker without asking any questions.
That is MIND CONTROL in action.
You have 5 million brain cells, with a mind that is capable of infinite greatness.
Instead of taking control of this power, you handed over control to 8 men in New York City.
Please accept my deepest condolences.

I know you're surprised that what made you turn your back on God's organization doesn't mean anything to intelligent people.
With all your pictures, videos and stories some individuals keep asking you questions that you never thought of when faithless people brought all those nonsense.
So i know how you feel, just calm down and learn it shows you've not been wise enough!

ANTIlSLAM:
Me wey be say I dey use your medulla oblongata play football you said I'm worried, you funny oo exposing you is what that's giving me joy because I'll render you useless here on nairaland. This is ANTIISLAM

No wahala, just know that schools and hospitals doesn't make the Catholics Christians!