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Jesus is Archangel Michael and his God is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob so his father is the same as our father, his God is our God! John 20:17

AgirlsNightmAre:
He only asked about John 1:1
They guy ever mentioned Trinity
"In the beginning the word was...........which means the word Existed out of time

NO!
The phrase "in the beginning" shows that the WORD was created as God's first work:

"The Lord created me at the beginning of his work" Proverbs 8:22 RSV

And out of all the things God used the WORD to create it's humans that's the word's favorite! Proverbs 8:30-31

That's why he always stand up for the salvation of mankind! Daniel 12:1

So the WORD was created "in the beginning" that's why he is appropriately called "the only begotten" {John 3:16} or "first born of all creations" {Colossians 1:15} who partook in creating all (other) things! Colossians 1:16

Thanks!

johnw47:
Jud 1:9  Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee. 
Luk 4:8  And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me Satan

You are talking about two different cases that happened within about 2,000 years far from the other.
Michael wasn't the angel sent to bury Moses but when Satan began dragging issues with the angels sent to do it Michael came and drove Satan away. According to Jude Michael had that power to bring JUDGMENT upon Satan but he will not do so because JEHOVAH their father has not decided to destroy Satan at that point in time.

"But when the archangel Michael, contending with the devil, disputed about the body of Moses, he did not presume to pronounce a reviling judgment upon him, but said, “The Lord rebuke you.” RSV

Michael is the one and only angel whose attitude is just like JEHOVAH because he never gets angered easily unlike other angels.
With all the power bestowed upon him Michael will never act on impulse because he always look at the way his father (JEHOVAH) handle matters.

That's what Jude made clear there and that's exactly what we see in Jesus of Nazareth. When the Samaritans treated him unjustly as the Christ (Messiah) he has the right to judge that town but instead he left there peacefully waiting for orders from JEHOVAH! Psalms 110:1-2

The utterance "get behind me" is exact equivalent of "get out" and Jesus (Michael) appropriately used it to show Satan that he will always stand up for God's will so when Satan posseses a kindhearted human to speak to Jesus (Michael) it's the same response Satan will get! Matthew 16:23

Thanks!

Janosky:
Shebi you,Templee3333 wants evidence of your true colors in 3 screenshots ?

Wetin concern Templee333 REASON #12 &
1 Timothy 5:8?
Is "Abuses,violence,conflict are all part of Jw family issues" that the man provides for his an family or fails to provide, that he is " worse than an "unbeliever"?

I wanted to call you in the afternoon but i was busy on zoom with my partners, please leave this guys?
Isn't it obvious from the verses they're all quoting like johnw47 that they know nothing in the Bible?
Our little ones studying my book of Bible stories will TEACH them!

zealander10:
As a Christian, I always base my answers on God’s Word. At John 6:40, Jesus said, “For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who recognizes the Son and exercises faith in him should have everlasting life, and I will resurrect him on the last day.”

Recognizing God’s Son i.e. Jesus, goes beyond being acquainted with his name and believing that he exists. John 3:36 and John 15:10 links exercising faith (believing) in Jesus to obedience to his commandments.

So there we have it. Doing God’s will simply means exercising faith in his Son, Jesus, which is done by obeying his commandments. And like John 6:40 says, we will be rewarded with everlasting life.

There are many commandments of Jesus Christ found in the Greek Scriptures (or what is commonly referred to as the New Testament) but the one of such that Christians obey is the command to preach and teach the good news of God’s Kingdom (Matthew 24:14; 28:19-20) And this work is currently being accomplished in over 239 lands across the globe with the aid of God’s holy spirit. Acts 1:8

And I agree, it is very important to know what this will is because otherwise one cannot act on what he doesn’t know. Invariably, Romans 10:14 says that how will people know what God’s will is if someone doesn’t preach to them ? Moreso, knowing and doing God’s will is vital for salvation. In fact, 1John 2:17 says that only the ones who do God’s will are going to survive the end of the world and enter into God’s Kingdom.

Apt!

Janosky:
Psalm 117
American Standard Version
A psalm of praise.
117
" Oh praise Jehovah, all ye nations;
Laud him, all ye peoples.
2 For his lovingkindness is great toward us"
The holy Bible PROVEN he's LYING.
That's how T333 is as well as his cohorts- liars[/b]

I have ignored that nuisance it's obvious he came back from hiding after sometimes, he's one of those critics that's been beaten hands down through sound debate. So he changed identity only to come and malign God's people!

ANTIlSLAM:
Bobo you don revive.. Had it been you've died if not for their medical help on you will you have hand to type this nonsense?

You didn't even know how it goes but simply because i was taken there you've concluded it's the hospital that kept me alive shey?

Well i'll tell the story. I got sick and the sickness persisted until i was carried there, they wanted to transfused me with blood, i objected because i've been studying the Bible with Jehovah's Witnesses but since i can only make signals and can't talk, my mom who was not a witness gave the doctors and nurses the go ahead. After the transfusion things got worse and they told my mom that i should be transferred to another hospital in Ìbàdàn, that was when my elder sister who married an herbalist in Abéòkúta came with her husband and the man took my case to the meeting of all the traditionalist meetings where they referred me to a man from Benin republic who later treated me. He gave me a medicine that drained the transfused blood from my system before he commence his own treatment and that's the person that saved my life not the Catholic hospital. Of course that doesn't mean they can't treat people but in my case i learned that blood transfusion can kill just as the JWs believe and that's what strengthen my faith more in the teachings of JWs.

You can continue agitating what i know and can prove with the scriptures that kind gestures doesn't make someone a Christian, Christianity comes with an assignment and if you're not doing that assignment all your self righteousness is like filthy rags before the true God {Isaiah 64:6} that's why Jesus told a Samaritan woman that her people aren't worshiping the true God {John 4:22} despite the fact that a Samaritan once saved a robbed Jew! Luke 10:29-37


Farewell!

ANTIlSLAM:
I tell u say na me go reset your life see as u don gentle now

Hospitals and schools doesn't make Catholics Christians. That's indisputable!

Jesus said:
“My food is to do the Will of him who sent me and to finish his work" John 4:34

So according to Jesus God's Will has to do with an assigned WORK!

SharonLoveth:
You are the one proving stubborn!

It's OK!

ICEWIN:
So why are there so many contradiction

The Bible is not a book that you can just pick to read and understand like other books, God assigned his servants to TEACH others what is WRITTEN in that book! Matthew 28:20
If it's just to pick and read for understanding then there won't any need for TEACHERS! Ephesians 4:11

Whenever the word EARTH is mentioned in the Bible it connotes two things:
[1] The planet
[2] The inhabitants
The HEAVENS also has three meanings:
[1] The space
[2] The spiritual realms
[3] The rulers of the earth

So when the Bible says Heaven and Earth will pass away {Matthew 24:35} it simply means WICKED rulers and their REBELLIOUS subjects.

That's why the Bible book of Revelation says:

And I saw a new heaven (righteous government) and a new earth (obedient mankind) ; for the former heaven (evil rulers) and the former earth (rebellious humans) had passed away, and the sea (indecisive people) is no more. Revelations 21:1

The evil rulers have completed all their system of government and failed woefully so God's Kingdom (God's own government) will destroy all of them! Daniel 2:44

The rebellious humans also partook in ruining the earth {Revelations 11:18} complicating issues for their evil rulers instead of obeying those leading them {Matthew 22:21; Hebrews 13:7, 17 compare to Romans 13:1-3} that's why their rulers are going for weapons as the subjects are making this difficult for their rulers.

But God's own people always give what worldly rulers demands to them {Matthew 22:21} and to God they humbly and obediently honour the anointed King (Jesus Christ) by wholehearted submission to his system of rule as they're supporting Jesus' anointed brothers on planet earth {Matthew 25:31-40} so by the time Jesus return to destroy all evil rulers and their troublesome subjects {Luke 19:27} those claiming believers but failed to recognize Jesus' anointed brothers will also be destroyed! Matthew 25:41-46 compare to Matthew 7:21-23

God's Holy Spirit is WORKING with Jesus' anointed brothers today helping them to gather millions of obedient mankind, teaching them all the things their King commanded {Isaiah 2:3 compare to Matthew 28:20} and they have diverted all their resources into the production of food and information materials, stopped the production of WEAPONS, vowed never to raise weapons against anyone and as for military services they have said GOODBYE! Isaiah 2:4

As for turbulent humans complicating issues on the planet God likens them to the SEA so by the time Paradise is restored on the earth they will be NO MORE. That's why Revelations 21:1 said:
"And the SEA {Isaiah 57:20} is no more"

Thanks for considering our book Bible, God bless you and may you have PEACE!

ICEWIN:
Same Isaiah vs 24 said
The LORD is going to completely destroy
everything on earth. 24 He will twist its surface.
He’ll scatter those who live on it.
Priests and people alike will suffer. 2
So will masters and their servants.
And so will women and their female
servants.
Sellers and buyers alike will suffer.
So will those who borrow and those who
lend.
And so will those who owe money and
those who lend it.
The earth will be completely destroyed. 3
Everything of value will be taken out of it.
That’s what the LORD has said.
The earth will dry up completely. 4
The world will dry up and waste away.
The heavens will fade away along with the
earth.

On the contrary the earth will last forever!
Psalms 78:69; 104:5; 119:90
Isaiah 45:18

God promised to replenish the earth! Psalms 67:6-7; 72:16; Isaiah 35:1

Evildoers will be removed from the earth! Psalms 37:9-11; Proverbs 2:20-22; Revelations 11:18

Righteous people will live forever on planet earth! Psalms 37:29; Matthew 5:5

Will connotes intention or desire, therefore a person writes a Will so that whether he/she is alive or dead all those close to him/her may carry on with what he/she intended/desires.
For instance, during the time God created Adam and Eve His will for the first human pair is to:
[1] Multiply and become many.
[2] Fill the earth with their offsprings.
[3] Subdue the earth, use it to the full.
[4] Take charge of all the lives on the planet.
Genesis 1:26-28
During Noah's day God's Will for humans is to enter into the Ark with faith that He (God) will deal with the giant bullies disrupting the peace on earth. Genesis 6:18
During the time of Lot God's Will is for faithful people to leave Sodom and Gomorrah for their safety! Genesis 19:12-14
During the time of Moses God's Will is for the Israelites to go and settle down in Canaan so that they can start pure worship there! Exodus 5:1 compare to Genesis 11:31
Today we can all read what Jesus said people need to do in line with God's Will because in each generation all those that fail to join in doing God's Will were either ignore for not participating or destroyed for standing in the way of faithful servants of God who are doing it.
So it's vital we know What is God's Will today? Matthew 7:21-23

Templee333:
Ah! You self never know till now? God's will is that ev'ryone should be saved & come 2 accurate knowledge of the truth.
Questn:who are the ones doing God's will?
Answr: Jehovah's wickedness.

Thanks for your time.
Shalom!

The quoted verse is one of the mostly referred in the scriptures as Jesus of Nazareth clearly stated that it's not those calling him Lord! Lord! that will inherit God's Kingdom. Though most religionists believe that God's kingdom is heaven even when we can all read in the Bible that Adam and Eve were created to live forever on planet earth! Genesis 1:26-28 compare to Psalms 115:16
Anyhow everyone agrees that if there is a God somewhere and He wants to reward the good the blessings will be pretty good.
So since Jesus (God's only begotten Son) said it's by doing God's will that humans can gain God's favour the most important question that should come to mind is:
What is God's will today?

Janosky:
Thanks.
It's too obvious that the toxicity came from those who would rather not have JWs speak up for the truth whether online or offline.
However you view it, someone not familiar with JWs must have learned something about the points we share.

Obviously the OP just wants to criticize JWs so he's not neutral!

Janosky:
I have 4 questions for you:
If Paul the apostle "REALLY believes" that he will enter God's kingdom,& the Roman Empire will perish,why did he go to the Roman Court to seek redress and enforce his rights?

What son did Paul commit by seeking redress in the Roman Court?

You believe you will go to heaven,why don't you wait to get to heaven and enjoy the goodies there than going to Court to recover earthly treasures you can't use in heaven?

Why not leave the matter in favor of your legal opponents & rather use the legal fees money to be spent on the case to help other poor brothers in your 3 deities church?

A brother's comment:

zealander10:
Hello MaxInDHouse and Janosky, I couldn’t get past the first page because the air of toxicity is too much. I’d suggest that you two stop engaging in online debates with opposers because it’s counterproductive and I’m sure it doesn’t leave you spiritually edified. Moreso, it brings reproach upon Jehovah and his beautiful organization. 1Corinthians 4:9 says that we are a theatrical spectacle and as such, cannot be found slinging mud at people who want to play dirty. We’re too clean and elevated for that. Titus 1:15 says, “All things are clean to clean people, but to those who are defiled and faithless, NOTHING is clean, for both their minds and their consciences are defiled..”
So why should we be bothered about how the truth is perceived by some ?

Templee333:
ur God isn't the God of Daniel! Or how else could u convince me dat a god who couldn't protect u frm a tiny virus like corona is the same dat protected from Lion? Or why did ur organization panic during the pandemic?

Thanks for your time!

cornelboy:
Definitely your post is useless.
You pointed out the problems but never gave any solution

A brother came and has shipped in some words that we need to work on.
Please we're supposed to round it up with him mildly! 1Peter 3:15

zealander10:
Hello MaxInDHouse and Janosky, I couldn’t get past the first page because the air of toxicity is too much. I’d suggest that you two stop engaging in online debates with opposers because it’s counterproductive and I’m sure it doesn’t leave you spiritually edified. Moreso, it brings reproach upon Jehovah and his beautiful organization. 1Corinthians 4:9 says that we are a theatrical spectacle and as such, cannot be found slinging mud at people who want to play dirty. We’re too clean and elevated for that. Titus 1:15 says, “All things are clean to clean people, but to those who are defiled and faithless, NOTHING is clean, for both their minds and their consciences are defiled..”
So why should we be bothered about how the truth is perceived by some ?

KnownUnknown:
CHUG CHUG forgives you for calling me stupid.

Just as you supposed to forgive others!

Templee333:
by the way, how did u try to harm them?

That's within me and i remember vividly how their God protected them which convinced me that their God is with them! Daniel 6:16-22

Templee333:
ok. But tell ur members not to come near my compound 'cos my security dogs are hungry & bloodthirsty.

OK Sir, their God will protect them from such hazard just as He protected them when i also tried to harm them back in the early 90s! Act 22:4; 1Corinthians 15:9
How i wish you live in my neighbourhood at least i can have a taste of what i did to them back then!

Templee333:
oh! So interesting! What are they coming to tell me in my house dat i've never heard b4? Is it not the old Armagedon & paradise shit? Or they want to tell me how to make my family happy? Put ur own family in order 1st

Good!
I've chosen their group and made it my own so you can do whatever you like it's your life.
May you have PEACE!

Templee333:
okay...now i understand u. So why does the watchtower always find fault in others but close its eyes to its own faults?

I am now one of Jehovah's Witnesses because i prefer this organization to Islam and all other religions.

The topic of this thread says:

"Jehovah's Witnesses Going From House To House Again!"

Please can you do yourself a favour by calling on them next time they come around in order to ask them all the questions you have in mind?

Shalom!

Templee333:
wetin be shalom? Come here & defend the only organization that teaches the truth? Dont try! Dont dare try to run!

Are you sure it's OK this way you're becoming overly anxious with this matter?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, thanks for your time.
Shalom!

Templee333:
shalom my nyash! Is shalom the answer 2 my question?

Your reaction is becoming suspicious, please don't get PERSONAL over what people choose to do with their lives. They have the right to do whatever they like as there is FREEDOM of SPEECH EXPRESSION WORSHIP and ASSOCIATION.
So when you ask someone a question about his or her faith and he/she accorded you with a response can you just calmly address them without getting overly anxious, it doesn't show any sign of tolerance.

Templee333:
please check the question i asked u & see if u've answered it.

It's OK, thanks.
Shalom!

Templee333:
What God's will? Ur god's will are only accomplished in books & magazines,not real life. And,for ur information,Jw's that I Knw are guilty of the 3 things u mentioned above.

It's OK, thanks for your time.
Shalom!

Templee333:
What has ur organization accomplished so far?

God's will!

They have gathered millions of people from all the races throughout the world and ERASED POLITICS, RACISM and MILITARY SERVICES in their hearts! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

Templee333:
seems u didn't get me,my questn was why did t they leave when they were once 100% sure just like u?

NO! They were never 100% sure!
Those who are 100% sure believe that God's organization must be just one not two so if it's not WATCHTOWER then it must be another.
Have you heard of a better performing group than Jehovah's ORGANIZATION?

Templee333:
but what if these "anticipations" (as u choose to call it) were made by other churches/religion, would ur Watchtower not point them out as false prophets/antichrist? why is there always & exception when ur organisation err?
@maxindhouse

You called it my organization but i called what i found {Matthew 7:13-14} God's organization!

Jesus Christ said:

"For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also" Matthew 6:21

Well all members of God's organization have just one thing in their hearts: when will God's Kingdom comes?
That's why all critics always complain about the same thing that's often in their mind:
GOD'S KINGDOM!

Templee333:
but some who were just 100% sure like u (including GB member,bethelites,CO,pioneers) at some point later left the org. Why?

Please what is the name of the organization they later joined?

Well a true sheep is only interested in the ORGANIZATION, so no matter what happens the organization comes first that's why real sheep don't take anything PERSONAL because we are still searching for the ORGANIZATION that's performing better than WATCHTOWER, just present it and leave the rest to us!