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Steep:
Go and join LAPO, they are a better organization. Zombie

Don't cry Sir!
Your TRINITY hasn't produced anything worthwhile couple with the fact that it is not written anywhere in the Bible!

Steep:
Baptism them in the name of the father , son and Holy spirit Mathew 28 vv 19
That is the Trinity! It tells you the father, son and the holy spirit are persons having one name.

That's what your trinitarian fathers told you but TRINITY is nowhere to be found in the Bible!

Steep:
Zombie who doesn't even know what he is debating.
Zombie, Trinity means three persons in one God, so which trinitarian will tell you its the same person?

Not found in the Bible!

Steep:
lolololo fine WORKS like lying, killing people through blood transfusion refusal, covering up peadophile, spilling bile against Christians, blaspheming Jehovah.
Now wonder Jehovah's name is being blaspheme because of your organization.

Do you know a better performing organization?

Emusan:
Yet he'll be claiming intelligent officer, so all this while of your ranting on internet you still don't know what Trinity all about

He no dey Bible!

cornelboy:
Yeah but Jesus is presently the ruler of God's kingdom. He will hand over the kingdom at the end and will subject to God's rule. 1Corinthians 15:24-28

Funny trinitarians will tell you it's the same person yet one will hand over to another!

Steep:
Even your confused Bible says Jesus, his father and the holy spirit has one name.

Is that what you made out of that verse?

Jman24:
still thinking how you would respond to that first post ?

Got lots of things to attend to, you either rephrase it or forget it. I'm not indebted to faithless people!

cornelboy:
Na inside bible you see this one?

He will come and tell you how Satan removed it from the Bible!

Jman24:
Predictable max
I knew you would only respond to my second submission
Max why do you find it hard reacting to my submissions?
Hit facts with facts

I was a soldier and we do respond to the LAST order. So when next you want to address my post think and compose yourself, i will only read the last post if you responded multiple times because i believe that's exactly what you should have done in the first place!

AntiChristian:
JW version of Christianity you say!

It's about those CLAIMING Christians no matter the version, so since you are ANTI-Christian it's none of your concern!

BornofGod108:
God's punishment for sinner's is beyond ordinary death! after death the soul goes to either heaven or hell MATTHEW 10:28

Soul goes nowhere!
The soul that is sinning will DIE! Ezekiel 18:4

BornofGod108:
what can you say about what Jesus said in MATTHEW 10:28, a threat abi?

"And do not become fearful of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul; rather, fear him who can destroy both soul and body in Ge·henʹna"

Gehenna is a symbiotic term for death that has no hope of a resurrection!

This is about those claiming Christians not the AntiChristian!

AntiChristian:
I like your subtle way of dodging questions!
Take care!

AntiChristian:
How is Adam the most Cruel and heartless sinner?
What sin did he commit to give him such title?
And has others not comited far more Cruel and heartless sins even in your JW mission?

Don't disturb yourself my friend, it's the Bible Adam i'm talking about here not your Qu'ran Adam that is a prophet of your god.
So it's none of your business!

Small boy!

nans24:
My indirect brother in the lord. Good morning. Thanks for all the work you're doing in this forum. Honestly, you're really helping to make our work easier. Hope you delivered my greetings and advise to your grandson?

So you ran away from the topic you raised only to start raising another, shey?
Do you now agree that the Israelites never made any mistake when they claim to be God's chosen nation?

nans24:
Save this story you typed for unbaptised publishers like max. When we tell you people to go online and do research, you guys dodge like we are telling you to hug a transformer. Apart from documents, There are videos online of elders admitting that your organisation has ties with the U.N. Don't ask me for proof, the lady above has already told you how to get that proof. I am aware you guys have a hierarchical structure in your organisation. Certain things known by travelling overseers is not known by elders, certain things known by elders is not known by rank and file witnesses, certain things known by rank and file witnesses is not known by unbaptised publishers like max that said you people don't restrict blood transfusion. So am not surprised that alot of you don't know anything about your organisation. So much secrecy and deceit same pattern as freemasons.

HISSCRIBE1995:
how then where you able to arrive at this assurance of yours ?

By their FRUIT {Matthew 7:16-18} this means visible WORKS! James 2:18
Where are the visible WORKS of your so called spirit?

Adam is the most cruel and heartless sinner ever, God only told Adam that he (Adam) will return to dust (non-existence)
According to Paul the only punishment God had in mind for sinners is DEATH and at death the sinner has paid fully for his sin! Romans 6:7

Steep:
exactly this makes Jesus and his God and father one God.

That's not what the Bible said!
Jesus has a father who is the father and God of all creations. Your arrogance doesn't change anything here my friend.
TRINITY is nowhere to be found in God's word!

That is the result of misinformation.
God specifically declared Israelites His special possession out of all the nations on this planet {Deuteronomy 7:6} that's why we found many records of miracles in connection with the sons of Jacob. God never promised that such gifts will be given to people of other races that is why you can't find any miracles recorded in the Bible where an Israelite is not the one performing it.
Jesus made a statement that most readers of the Bible don't take note. A Phoenician woman (none Israelites) brought her daughter to Jesus for healing, Jesus always heal people no matter their nationality as long as they believe in his ability, but this time the woman came with faith and Jesus turned her down saying:

“I was not sent to anyone except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
Why did Jesus who once said God sent him to the world {John 3:16} suddenly became this hostile?
The woman persisted but rather than looking at her faith Jesus uttered something more hostile:
“It is not right to take the bread of the children and throw it to the little dogs.”
But the woman will not allow such hostility snatch away her faith in Jesus' power to heal her child, at last Jesus was moved because of her faith to perform the miracle.

What do we learn from Jesus' words and actions here?

Is it not evident that the miraculous gifts are for only the nation of Israel {Act 2:39} in fact God's word made it clear that people of other nations will be saved (not through miracles they can see) but for believing in the miracles recorded in the history of ISRAELITES:

This is what the LORD Almighty says: "In those days ten people from all languages and nations will take firm hold of one Jew by the hem of his robe and say, ’Let us go with you, because we have heard that God is with you.’" Zechariah 8:23 NIV

That's why Apostle Paul urged his Christian brothers from Corinth that they shouldn't expect the supernatural gifts to continue because it was meant for purpose and when the purpose is met all these gifts will CEASE! 1Corinthians 13:8-10

According to Paul it's the LOVE that sincere and honest hearted individuals have for God that will sustain them not the supernatural gifts! 1Corinthians 13:13
So whoever wants to worship the God of Israel only need to find the group of worshipers in whose midst LOVE is evident (not miracles) John 13:34-35

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Steep:
People are reading this and turning away from Jehovah witness.
You obviously sold yourself to satan

FAITH is the assured expectations of what we're hoping for, while we demonstrate the reality for everyone to see {Hebrews 11:1} so real Faith has visible WORKS {James 2:18-26} that everyone can SEE {{Matthew 5:13-16} we know that it's not a possession of all kinds of people {2Thessalonians 3:2} that's why Jesus asked us to search for the lost sheep of the house of Israel {Matthew 10:6} not just individuals that may not cherish FAITH! Matthew 7:6

Steep:
bla, bla, bla,
Jehovah said there is no God with Jehovah
Deu 32, it doesn't matter if pagans worship demons,
No God is with yahweh, but Jesus is with yahweh. John 1 vv 1

Jesus was with his God and Father! John 20:17

haddeylium:
There's always two side to a story. The OP's own is a critic side which is full of half-truth and biased opinion.
This is the short version
The Watchtower Society did not join the UN. Only nations can join the UN.

They became what is called an NGO (Non Government Organisation) to the department of Public Affairs, This was so that they could have access to the vast library at the UN that we use in many of our publications
The criteria for being an NGO was different when they become an NGO. The criteria changed and the responsible men at the WTS we unaware of the change of status for being an NGO until a reporter in England wrote a story for the Guardian
The headquarters began receiving many letters asking about this and as result of those letters, they checked the UN requirements for NGOs and found they had recently changed; they realized that the requirements demanded a more definite support and that violated our neutrality stand, so they disassociated

What this faithless people want God's people to do is to know whatever will happen in the future after all they are God's chosen people.
So they're not interested in knowing whether they made changes due to some changes in the requirements of the UN.
They are all atheists in disguise, but hiding under none-denominations so that they will not be asked to show the works of their Faith! James 2:18
Therefore when they look around and see the organization that's truly producing the fruit of faith they're puzzled and the next thing is how to discredit such fine WORKS!

Jman24:
Lol. Max will not kill somebody.

Revelation 20:7-9

And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

You have made a negative correlation.
That your biblical Judas was used by such spirit
of deceit doesn't make him the devil. He was still Judas.
So that the snake being used by such spirit doesn't make it a devil. And so many other people being used according to your good book) ...That's an oversight by the writers. They didn't think it through

The text should have gone this way:
And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the Rival ; and the Rival and his angels fought, 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. 9 So the rival was cast out, the Devil, who used the serpent of old, and deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Jman24:
We know this stories are fiction but at least let us understand English language

The highlighted solves your problem.K

Wahala dey for Okpoko!
Double quote for the same post, are you just rebooting?
I don't know those you're referring to as "WE" but since it's fiction to you, please let others who believe it's real enjoy their study of the book after all nobody is forcing it on you!

Steep:
Those creatures are no gods,

Well they are gods that other nations do worship, that's why they're able to perform magic when God's servants perform miracles! Exodus 7:10-11

The fallen angels were serving as gods under the chairmanship of Satan the ruler and God of this world! John 14:30; 2Corinthians 4:4

Steep:
E shock am! You have seen an error in Jw.org teachings
even jwo are in bed with united nations like a slut, decades ago she condemns all secular government but now in bed with what she condemns

Keep agitating, we can understand!

nans24:
No we've not retreated. Come back please. We need you to finish the work you started in this forum.

My 7 years old grandson is here laughing at your childish lies!
Speaking to an elder about online arguments.
Asking about blood transfusion.
Elder told you members are forced to obey.
In fact i have to tell the boy that i'm chatting with one of my none-witness friend's teenage son who loves cracking jokes.
Because the boy won't believe me that it's an adult that's typing all these on a public forum!

It's OK my friend, do have a lovely night sleep!

achorladey:
Luke 18: 22 don enter dust bin.
We know your mode of operation.

And gradually they've all retreated since they can't face the truth. Even your friend who came to fight for you ended up being a frustrated liar!
Well God has a chosen people according to His word so it's left for anyone to choose whether to join God's people and be saved or remain agitating against God's arrangement! Zechariah 8:23

Goodbye!

Steep:
See how you just walk into the trap I set for you.
Jesus paid tax that was used to fund soldiers according to jw.org Jesus then is not a true worshiper.

It is not a matter of raising weapons you support those soldiers with tax you pay.

Keep agitating my friend we can understand!

Emusan:
But you hold the belief that I'm not worshipping the same God with you, so how come I can pray to the same God that I don't worship?

It's not about your prayers but the true God makes things go well for everyone!

"so that you may prove yourselves sons of your Father who is in the heavens, since he makes his sun rise on both the wicked and the good and makes it rain on both the righteous and the unrighteous
" Matthew 5:45
That's why armed robbers, hired killers, ritualists, terrorists do receive the good things of life like riches and fruit of the womb. So if you're telling them that God is against their prayers they'll look down on you because they feel their prayers were answered!

nans24:
I just tire for the guy. Anyway, I'll go easy on him because his fellow overseer (my friend) has denied him. The guy claims max must be an unbaptised publisher because;

1. They do restrict blood transfusion.
2. They are warned against arguing with people online and max is bringing reproach upon the Christian association of Jehovah's witnesses.

MaxInDHouse:
Just save yourself the stress because you know nothing about what you're diving into.
If there's no grouping then why did Jesus insisted that a man who has been obeying God's law all his life must join Jesus' group? Luke 18:18-22

Human thinking is that each person can connect to God without a group setting but Jesus said:

"For where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there I am in their midst.” Matthew 18:20

So you can only pray alone for your personal needs {Matthew 6:6} but when it comes to WORSHIP you must join a group!

The highlighted is what i told you from the onset but now that you've seen things for yourself, you can testify to the reason why your friends are agitating against God's chosen people!