₦airaland Forum

advanceDNA:
I been talking appearance since..u should get that was a typo error from auto correct

It's OK!🙂

Can you quote where i said Paul's approach remains the same?

advanceDNA:
How is this text prove your earlier point that Paul's approach remained the same way as the pharisees??

So you can see that i didn't condemn his decision rather i only said what matters mostly is his change of attitude.

advanceDNA:
The thing is you are trying to separate his appearance change from inward change....I'm just saying both can go together ..
his appearance is part of his overall changes and both his new behavior and appearance can actually be felt by people weda they knew him before or not......

I am not against his decision rather what i'm saying is the real change should be from the inside just as Jesus reaches!
Mark 7:20-23

He's changes should be felt by people who sees his new behavior not appearance!

advanceDNA:
why are u against his need to remove all these things inspired by his old way of life that he no longer finds appealing?? ...
Isn't the inside supposed to influence the outside??

advanceDNA:
Did the Bible give account of the appearance of paul after encountering Jesus?

Soon (Paul) began to go to the synagogues and tell people about Jesus. He told the people, “Jesus is the Son of God!” All the people who heard Saul were amazed. They said, “This is the same man who was in Jerusalem trying to destroy the people who trust in Jesus! And that’s why he has come here—to arrest the followers of Jesus and take them back to the leading priests.” Act 9:20-21

So they recognized him but Barnabas is the one who introduced Paul to the Apostles telling them that he's now a changed man. That's what i meant saying appearance doesn't really matter but a change of heart! Act 9:27

You are misconstruing the whole thing.

Since he has changed do you think he will still continue to draw tattoos on his body again?

Of course he will tell everyone that's his former lifestyle but now he's a changed person!

advanceDNA:
So he can keep drawing more tattoos?? U mentioned his faith should reflect in his action, behavior??
But drawing tattoo is an action.... and past way of life can be a temptation for a someone who repents........ So why do y'all see something wrong in disconnecting totally from his past ways which may be a temptation to go back??

....me I don't understand how y'all think anyone who encountered Jesus will not feel a strong sense of outward change from old life style and appreciate.....

God's rulership or God's Kingdom!

Adam and Eve protested against God's sovereignty which brought pain and death to them and all their descendants.

So God sent another perfect man equal as a perfect human to Adam so through this perfect human we may learn how to please the true God well and regain what the first human couple lost which is living without having to die: everlasting life!🙂

advanceDNA:
Did Paul remain a pharisee after encounter with Jeus??

Paul's appearance didn't change rather it's his attitude that changed.
So when Christians saw him they were running away thinking he's still coming to persecute then not until they saw him preaching and teaching zealously about Jesus as the Christ.

We know how that story goes because Elijah reminded the Israelites that their ancestors worshiped a God who answered Moses by fire so if prophets of Baal are confusing the people with different types of worship all in the name of the God of Moses they should test if these Gods are truly the God of Moses.

Do we need calling down fire as test of the true God today?

NO!

Why? Because the only true God gave us an identifying mark of the only true religion that's doing His will during the end time.

Is anyone interested in knowing that mark today?🙂

Originalsly:
If he's really Christian then it should be about faith .... not appearance. He's still into vanity ... how he looks ...his appearance. What's on the inside ...his belief and faith should be reflected in action ..behaviour ... outpouring of love and humility etc .... not on the skin. He just confused ...tattoo ink be messing with his brain.

Don't blame him because that is what his pastor asked him to do!

When asking about the only true God let us borrow a leaf from what happen in Elijah's days.

Moses who brought the laws is dead and Ahab with his wife Jezebel has brought other forms of worship to Israel the Israelites were confused as everyone is claiming their God is the same who brought them out of Egypt but Elijah kept saying it's only Jehovah that's the true God and whoever wants to worship Him must go to Jerusalem.
By that time the kingdom has been divided so that ten tribes in northern Israel are called Samaritans while the other two are called Jews but it's among the Jews living in Jerusalem that the holy temple was built so it was somehow difficult for the king in Samaria to allow his subjects go to Jerusalem out of fear that they hearts may return to the king in southern Israel.
The irony of this matter is that Elijah was a Samaritan himself so majority of his own people hate him as they felt he supposed to support his own tribesmen instead of being loyal to the Jews.
So what did Elijah do to settle the matter that time?

dreamwords:
It seems you like nollywoo a lot

It's his heart Jesus wants to change not his appearance!

The changes Jesus demands is of the heart not appearance!🙂

SunMusk:
He can use his own picture to evangelise... As a former fornicator you don't continue in it to proof that God change but rather leave it and tell people I'm a former fornicator but God saves me.

What changes do you think Jesus wanted?
Inward or outward? 2Timothy 3:5

advanceDNA:
Ure just contradicting yourself....
U called Paul a former pharisee... Did he remain a pharisee while preaching and teaching?? ..how does one encounter God genuinely yet remain the same outwardly and only change inwardly?? I don't think its possible......tbcos the outward is an expression of what's inward

ayoncox:
There is a demon casting pastor in US full of tattoos and rings e no remove am

That's weird!😟

jesusjnr2020:
Moreover the scars of the tattoes are still there for anyone who needs that to believe, and your take also shows you believe how a man appears can also influence their chances of converting souls to Christ.

When preaching and teaching from door to door it's his dressing that will speak for him not his skin so if he's well dressed in suit and tie with the hairs of his head well combed of course most people will like to know what happened to his skin and that's the opportunity to deliver the message of God's Kingdom.

On the other hand if they got to a place where gangsters with tattoos stays his appearance will make many of them calm to listen other than when there is no one among the preachers looking like them!🙂

Highlighted is where we differ because we are OBEDIENT to the lamb but as for worship it belongs only to the true God! John 17:3
That is what OBEISANCE to the lamb means to us!🙂

immaculatesense:
As my God, whatever the father asks me to do for anyone I will do. He asked that the land sitting on the throne should be worshipped and I shall OBEY.
If you like disobey the Father, na your wahala be that.
Revelation 5:13-14
[13]And then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and in the sea. They sang:
“Blessing and honor and glory and power
    belong to the one sitting on the throne
    and to the Lamb forever and ever.”
[14]And the four living beings said, “Amen!” And the twenty-four elders fell down and worshiped the Lamb.

Mirasteel:
Interesting

There are lots of secrets most people don't know about Christianity!

merrymike47:
So i’ll advice that you start doing it if you claim to know how to do it better.

I'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses and that is why we are well organized globally because we only follow the footsteps of Christ Jesus and his first century disciples! 1Corinthans 13:33; 40

We worship the only true God Jehovah {John 17:3} and Jesus is our high priest {Hebrews 9:11} leading pure worship so all of us with Jesus are fellow worshipers of the same father and God! John 20:17

So as our high priest whatever Jesus say regarding pure worship everyone including all the angels in heaven must Obey him! Hebrews 1:6

immaculatesense:
I worship Jesus because the father has put me under him and he is above me.
I commit any crime to obey the father's instruction?
No Be Juju Be Dat?

immaculatesense:
You no get original Greek evidence to back your Obeisance and Worship?
Why you come dey explain tire since?

Continue with your fellow worshipers Joo!🤣

So you don't have any scriptures to back what she's doing.

[1] Jesus organized the preaching by giving us a territory to work. Matthew 10:6

[2] Jesus send out preachers in pairs. Luke 10:1

[3] Jesus said our ministry should be a one on one preaching {Matthew 10:11-13} because the one hearing may have a question. John 3:1

[4] Jesus didn't make noise in the streets! Matthew 12:19


So if you are not interested in all these then hold onto your opinion while i hold onto mine, that lady is constituting what is not Chrislike.

merrymike47:
Max I can see that you are trying very hard to defend yourself. That lady preached in a train, not one person in that train complained but I was surprised to see you guys here complaining about how she was constituting nuisance and even called her preaching noise. Sometimes we don’t have to always talk because we have an ulterior motives, it makes one look bitter. So Max, permit me to tell you that that lady is not the one that disturbed your morning sleep, you’ve not even met her before in real life, so I don’t really understand why you picked much offense by her action.

Do you still believe your Bible?

among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, so that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through. 2Corinthians 4:4

We know that we originate with God, but the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one. 1John 5:19

God's word says the spiritual controls the physical o!😟

immaculatesense:
show us the Greek word for Worship and then for Obeisance make we check.

Since you have your own people and we have our own people it's better to be on your lane while we remain on our lane! Matthew 7:12-13

Will the father join in worshiping Jesus?🤣

immaculatesense:
Ignorance at its peak.
Does the Greek language has capital letter?
Do you know that Elohim (plural) used to refer to angels in Hebrews mean gods. Do you know that God in Hebrew is a plural form?
You need a lot of lessons on Bible interpretation. You really need it.

The word OBEISANCE and WORSHIP are two different things.

Obeisance means taking instructions from someone so it has to do with the readiness to obey such a person.

Worship means rendering sacred service to someone.

But if you don't agree it's OK go and worship with your folks!🙂

liveyourlife007:
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
-- 2 Corinthians 5:17
The man chose to become new in Body,soul and spirit.
He made the right decision

OK!

immaculatesense:
But it's God himself that now announce that everything in heaven and on earth excluding the Father should worship him (Jesus).

This is hilarious!😂

immaculatesense:
Everything and everyone worship him except the father.

Wait a minute!

Now i understand you better. The first father who must join in worshiping Jesus is capital letter while the one who should not worship Jesus is small letter!😃

Guy, nobody will flog you for admitting that you typed rubbish nah!🤣

Mr SENSE don disappear!😂😂

Jesus told one of his disciples:

“You don’t need to hold on to me! I have not yet gone back up to the Father. But go to my followers and tell them this: ‘I am going back to my Father and your Father. I am going back to my God and your God.’” John 20:17

But someone said God commanded all those living in heaven and earth to worship Jesus (including the father of Jesus) to worship His own son Jesus!

Haba!🤣🤣

Who is your pastors between the two?😟

immaculatesense:
But it's God himself that now announce that everything in heaven and on earth excluding the Father should worship him (Jesus).

immaculatesense:
1 Corinthians 15:27-28
For the Scriptures say, “God has put all things under his authority.” (Of course, when it says “all things are under his authority,” that does not include God himself, who gave Christ his authority.)

Please make sense with these two posts of yours!🤣

Bebold:
Holy man, take it easy please. Would you listen to someone with such tattoos approaching you to preach about Christ?
Some people seem so detached from reality, just because they want to sound holy

Why do you think the Pharisees wanted Paul the apostle dead as fast as possible?

When it became day, the Jews formed a conspiracy and bound themselves with a curse, saying that they would neither eat nor drink until they had killed Paul. Act 23:12

Well they knew very well that with Paul preaching and teaching about God's Kingdom through Christ Jesus the Christians will get more converts and speedily too as everyone knew this man to be violent with his faith in Judaism.

So the way man sees totally differs from the way God sees matters {Isaiah 55:8-9} we often look at issues on the surface but God see deeper that we do.

Jesus specifically chose Paul a violent Pharisee to serve as one of his Apostles and see what Paul did as many churches were built through the active preaching and teaching of a former Pharisee!😟