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tctrills:
Being a JW is not difficult according to you all you need is to stop using your brain

YES when it's time to talk of pure worship!
That's why Jesus our first born is called the FAITHFUL WITNESS! Revelations 1:5

Bunch of liars!

Jesus confessed that he doesn't use his brain when it comes to matters relating to pure worship:

I cannot do a single thing of my own initiative. Just as I hear, I judge, and my judgment is righteous because I seek, not my own will, but the will of him who sent me. John 5:30

He clearly stated why: someone made him a judge so it's the will of that person he is doing not his own.

Yet all these false religionists are arguing.

Well that's the reason why all of you are facing different directions when it comes to matters of pure worship and only Jehovah's Witnesses are unitedly doing the same thing just as Jesus prayed! John 17:20-23

achorladey:
He was simply referred to as the Word.

So you have no point if you don't know why he is called by that title!

MightySparrow:
Which God are we worshipping?

Prove it by answering that question!

Sand2022:
This view by Jehovah's witnesses implies that politicians are under Satan's rule as such, that is why the world is bad as it is.

The problem with this view is not that Satan is not the ruler of the world, but what Jehovah's witnesses interpret the "world" to mean. The world there are those who do not have relationship with God, it is not politicians. And definitely not the cosmos.

If any person, whether politician or not, rejects God's standards and follows his own or the standard of the world, he is under Satan's rulership. But if a ruler follows God's guidelines, even if he is a ruler, he is not under Satan's rule.

We understand that there is a place for imperfection, and this can be attributed to Satan, but even the righteous makes mistakes as well.

This starts to make sense when we consider the land of Israel. If you're a king in ancient Israel, you sat on God's throne. The throne in Jerusalem is God's. In fact the land of Israel back then was entirely ruled by God, not Satan. But can we say that there weren't bad governance there? But why was the rulership bad, because Satan ruled the land? Quite the opposite, God ruled the land. What was wrong was that the individuals chose to follow Satan not God.

Another thing, JW view ignores the fact that Jehovah is the universal sovereign and that rulers are his Public Servants. But a public servant can chose to go against the rule of God and thus can be said to be ruled by Satan.

It should also be stated that even among those who chose Satan, God can cause a ruler to do His will.

Aemmyjah, achorladey, Jozzy4, MaxInDHouse, MightySparrow, NowYouKnow, TemmyT002, johnw47, Boomark, Emusan, Dtruthspeaker

Mr PIMO which church you dey go?

achorladey:
In the beginning WAS the Word.

If it's being God's spokesman that made him God's word then he couldn't have the title in the beginning because by then there was only Jehovah and him so to whom was he speaking as God's spokesman then?

tctrills:
he said that he suspended the use of his brain to become a JW, and I completely believe him.

You should because normally it's difficult for humans throughout the world to work together as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers if we are to use human thinking!

DaddyCoool:
With what brain did he have the presence of mind to be quoting the Bible? - "My God, my God, why has thou forsaken me?" Psalm 22:1

Has God ever forsaken His only begotten Son?

delkuf:
how then does this mean Jesus suspended his brain.

Jesus does so many things as human like eating different delicacies and drinking alcoholic beverages but when it comes to pure worship he SUSPENDS his human brain and rely solely on instructions from God!

delkuf:
please Maxi what or when is the pure worship are we allowed to use our brain

There are many things we can do with our brains but when talking about pure worship all of us must follow the same root because Satan as the person behind false religions is an evil genius who knows how to appeal to our human thinking! Matthew 16:21-23

tctrills:
This is JW brain science. I used to wonder why you made baseless statements, but you explained it yesterday. You have suspended the use of your brain cells.

Jesus, Apostles and Disciples did it so as to do the will of their superior when it comes to pure worship.
So you can't dispute it in anyway!

achorladey:
In the beginning was the WORD no ceremony is required to swear in the WORD.

There was a CEREMONY!

He only speaks before angels as God's spokesman in heaven not before humans so it's after he completed his earthly mission that he is fully qualified for that title! Matthew 28:18

tctrills:
Oh you are running away. This man. Please answer Oga

You're just crying when no one is beating you!

No human sticks to excruciating pains when there is option to release himself or herself if not first suspend the use of his or her brain.
So let anyone else dispute this if they are not hypocrites.

Why did Jesus commissioned Christianity?

achorladey:
in the beginning WAS WAS WAS the Word

In Toronto Canada WAS the president of Nigeria as a student.

Has Tinubu been sworn in as President back then or it is the qualities of a leader that was in him?

tctrills:
So according to JW, one can't go through excruciating pains and yet say it's ok when you have a choice to release yourself.

Ask anyone claiming believers here that question and let them answer you!

Truthseeker10:
You are so funny.....I have asked you where your idea of a "soul" that continues to learn after death come from, you've not been able to answer that question scientifically. You believe and propagate unscientific ideas but you are angry that others are doing exactly what you are doing. Is that not Hypocritical?

MightySparrow:
Where is Jehovah's witnesses in the post? You have not answered the question.

Are you and your friends worshipers of Jehovah the God of Israel?
Expect the answer from your friends as your Papa Oyedepo can't answer!

tctrills:
He meant that he was going through so much suffering. He did not mean that he no longer needed his brain. Do you get it now.

NO!
You are lying what Jesus is telling his dad is that he feels the situation shouldn't be but he is willing to go through it if that's what his father chooses.
You can't be going through excruciating pains yet say it's OK when you have a choice to release yourself so to do that you must suspend the use of your brain and focus on doing what you were told to do even when you are not comfortable with the whole thing.

lawani:
But don't you think that is grossly immoral?. Telling people their future bank robberies, rapes and etc have been paid for?. It is not a good way to bring up kids. I hope you agree

This is not what the Bible teach!

When someone becomes a Christian he is a new person from God's viewpoint because he has started mending his ways to fit in to what the scriptures calls New Personality {Ephesians 4:22-24} he will start fighting his own selfish desires not to return to his past deeds {1Corinthans 9:27} so that is why i keep telling you only Jehovah's Witnesses are true Christians.

What the Bible talked about as future errors is not what you know as evil but mistakes that's difficult to evade due to our imperfect state so when we fall into such sin we will be forgiven if we are truly repentant.

For instance sleeping with a woman or man that is not married to you or spending money that's kept with you due to urgent need not carrying weapons to rob o!

Omoawoke:
At least we can say it’s not 100% free of errors..

The funny thing about Atheism is that you guys are now PREACHING it yet claiming it's not a RELIGION!

The Scriptures is 100% free from errors but the Bible is filled with errors.

I know this will confuse an atheist as you don't know the difference between the two.

SCRIPTURES: Inspired writings from God to Israelite men through the Holy Spirit. These information was penned down in scrolls by 40 Israelite men.
There is no error.

BIBLE: Compilation of the inspired writings by UNINSPIRED translators who loves the message and wants to help in propagating it. This work is filled with errors due to language barrier as each translator is struggling with words and idioms used by the inspired writers which were penned down in Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek.

That's the secret.

achorladey:
Thanks jare. Na cover up tactics. He will later deny in another thread that he has never said Jesus was not the Word before his earthly ministry.

You go soon beat each other over my case.

Jesus is the Archangel Michael who is the spokesman among all the angels in heaven.
Jehovah's Witnesses told you but you and your cohorts disagree now i said he became the word of God after his earthly ministry you want to prove me wrong saying that is not what JWs said.
Is it not after his earthly mission that he was given that title?
Before his earthly mission he represents Jehovah before all the angels as the holy one of God {Luke 4:34} but after his earthly mission that all authority is given to him because he has done the same thing successfully on planet earth by speaking as Jehovah's representative on earth {Hebrew 1:1} and gathered faithful Jews who became born again through that mission that is when the title was confered on him but before then he only served as God's spokesman in heaven only nobody knew him here on earth!

You can continue twisting it as you like it can never change the fact that he wasn't called the WORD of God until his successful earthly mission! Matthew 28:18

delkuf:
well this your jw Bible it is quite different from the normal Bible because in the normal Bible there is no two spirit talking to Jesus at the same. You are talking about the temptation of Jesus.

The Lord Jesus was led by the Holy Spirit to the wilderness to fast and after he had fast and pray 40 days the devil came to tempt him. It is like the normal temptation everyone of face in our lives, Jesus had the grace and wisdom to overcome the devil and because he had the grace and wisdom to overcome the devil we too also have the same grace and wisdom to overcome the devil. So there suspension of brain here. There is no switching on and off of the brain, just having the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit telling us how to overcome the devil.


Then why do jw attributing the devil with another spirit. You don't want to tell us he is. The devil is the devil. Evil and bad. Anyway am talking with a jw. You said say it the devil because it is your master

Is it a visible man or an invisible spirit that led Jesus into the wilderness?

Let's start from there.

Satan is the cause!
You need to know the reason why Jesus instituted Christianity that's the first step to solve the puzzle!

lawani:
There are up to 100 million members of the CPC and they act in unison. Their situation is like the precolonial Yoruba. The Yoruba trusted the Ogboni to keep everything in check. Who else to trust?. They are doing it the right way and the only thing they may need to add is multiparty elections which must always end in a government of national unity. I don't like the system of opposition party politics where you must oppose a politician just because he or she is not in your party. Power sharing is better.

The only reason why you've been speaking against religion today is killing but China also kills so there is nothing in China that's better than religion in fact religion unites the world when Chinese only worship the government of China.

lawani:
That is not true but China is not run like the west where you can make a career out of abusing the leaders. They trust their government

Is it that they trust their government or their government dictates?

Just imagine China for that matter!

Where the cabinet doesn't have any say beside the president unlike America where any senator can raise his voice against the president.

Some people just want to form woke when they don't even know what they are saying!

lawani:
The Chinese President is less powerful than the US President. The party holds more or less all the power. There are now Chinese Babalawos. They are not against scientific spirituality. Then one way they are different from the west is that they trust their government

You don't get it do you?

They are all babalawos fortifying the sole ruler in China, if anyone sees a thing against their ruler he dies!

lawani:
Even by sheer numbers, I don't think China surpasses the US in death penalties and check their population to each other. To each his own. I don't support killing people for crimes below murder but they do so for financial crimes in China. They have their own unique way of building their nation. If you use political power to steal in China, you will go down.

Guy the situation in China doesn't allow for this your so called spirituality stuff if you don't worship their ruler your life is not safe.
That's what is applicable in China!

tctrills:
You are confusing yourself. Did he tell you that from his own brain that is the right thing or are you guessing what was in his brain?

Explain what he meant nah!

lawani:
Don't worry about semantics, China is doing well.

Answer the simple question nah!

You've been speaking against religion claiming they are killing people but the country of your choice "China" kills each time a law is broken.
For your information death penalty is like pure water in China o!

Can you live in such a country?

Most of you just believe in lies because in China whoever is not ready to worship their ruler is playing with his or her own life!

oridavid:
So you’ll be assuming to keep your beliefs.

It's OK, thanks for your time!