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tctrills:
Again you are wrong.

This is what makes you a clown.

You claim that the Bible contradicts itself yet you want to say someone is wrong to have an opinion on what the book which according to you contradicted itself says!

Well Jesus said it and it's written in the Bible you can start twisting as you like!

tctrills:
Again, you are wrong. And you are using your guesswork and human knowledge which is the wrong use of your brain. Jesus Christ never suspended the use of this brain. His ministry on earth is not the work of a senseless person.
On the other hand, do you know who suspends the use of their brain because of religion?
Suicide bombers. So you can choose to act like a suicide bomber and suspend the use of your brain or to be like Jesus'Christ filled with wisdom and understanding.
He was filled with the Spirit and the gifts of the Spirit are wisdom and knowledge not brainlessness.
One more thing, from the verses you quoted in John 17, Jesus Christ prayed for those who would have faith in him through the words of his disciples and not the words of the JW governing body. The words of his disciples are found in the New Testament.
Having faith in Christ is never brainless. It comes with the spirit of wisdom and knowledge. So as usual, you are wrong.

You can continue deceiving yourself.

From the horse's mouth:

I cannot do a single thing of my own initiative. Just as I hear, I judge, and my judgment is righteous because I seek, not my own will, but the will of him who sent me. John 5:30

The only difference between Jesus and those bumbers is that he did his father's will to SAVE lives {Mark 10:45} while they are doing the will of their father to destroy lives {John 8:44} the fact remains they all suspended the use of their brains!

ICEWIN:
Yes

Alright!
In the beginning Satan lied that Adam and Eve won't die if they rebel against God but they died so to continue making people feel death is just an illusion Satan and his cohorts (demons) are using dead people to promote their lies .
HOW?
Once a person dies a demon will come to copy the body of such a person so that this demon will start appearing to people who knew this dead person as if the diseased is still alive. Read Ecclesiastes 9:5-10
That was exactly what Satan came to do with the body of Moses.
Think of what could have happened if Moses who died on the mountain begin to appear to the Israelites and telling them twisted things, would it be easy for them to follow Joshua whom Moses had appointed as his successor?
Today in most lands people don't believe that the dead are really dead due to the experiences many had with these demons as they pretends to be their dead loved ones using their voices and telling them what the diseased told them in secret.
So Archangel Michael (Jesus) came to the scene and stopped Satan from copying the body of Moses as he (Michael) is the angel that standing for the salvation of God's people! Daniel 12:1
God bless you and may you have peace!

ICEWIN:
Can someone explain better

I'm Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses would you like me to contribute to the ongoing discussion?

tctrills:
You are right. Jesus Christ preached what his Father told him.

Now you are talking!
This means whatever he wants to do with his brain should be things that's not related to the worship of the true God but once it has to do with pure worship Jesus suspends the use of his brain and focus on instructions from his father.
The same goes with his Apostles and that is what they passed on to other disciples so that they can all have the same line of thought just as the father is pleased:

“I make request, not concerning these only, but also concerning those putting faith in me through their word, so that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in union with me and I am in union with you, that they also may be in union with us, so that the world may believe that you sent me. I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one.  I in union with them and you in union with me, in order that they may be perfected into one, so that the world may know that you sent me and that you loved them just as you loved me. John 17:20-23

Now I urge you, brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you should all speak in agreement and that there should be no divisions among you, but that you may be completely united in the same mind and in the same line of thought. 1Corinthans 1:10

Only Jehovah's Witnesses organization follow this pattern the rest of you people are Satan's agents each forming his own doctrine using it as criteria to set standards that's why you people keeps on contradicting one another and none of you can present any church that's practicing what he or she is saying.

MiddleDimension:
Ok, lets say there are no infants in the picture.
But would you baptize any of the children in the picture if they came to you for baptism? Especially that small boy, if he comes to you for baptism, would you baptise him? Would his 'consent' count for anything?

Just imagine an adult making a claim and when asked for evidence he pasted a drawing!
The Williams family are members of JWs so that means Serena was born and raised as one of Jehovah's Witnesses but how come she got baptized as a grown up woman and not an infant?

jaephoenix:
You have broken your promise towards me too. So shut up

See frustration!
I made a promise to you and broke it yet you never said anything about that not until i told you what you said.
Well i'm not going back on my words since you have said that to me unless you kiss my feet before i discuss with you again.
Until then this remains valid:

jaephoenix:
Bro, maybe I'll stop debating with you. You don't answer questions, but instead deflect it to answer a different question.

MiddleDimension:
I even poated the picture, for crying out loud!

Picture of Jehovah's Witnesses baptizing infants!

WeirdAlien:
Remove the log from your eye before complaining about splinter in another person's eye. The fact that you're not JW doesn't mean the doctrines you follow don't have serious flaws you may be blind to.

I am not JW in any way. But to start criticizing a denomination as justification for yours means you don't know what you stand for.

Your question would be a lot better if you ask for opinions about infant baptism, or if you just state your views and respond to others' reactions.

Tell him to present the publication no need of story the other guy is just looking for any JW that will come so he can start insulting them claiming they have done the same to him some five years ago!

delkuf:
can you comprehend simple English. Am I deciding anything. I only said I can't stand it when you bring up this demonic of your jw, so I speak up. Does that mean I decide what to say or not

Go and read how Judaists were stalking true Christians in the first century {Act 13:50; 14:2,19; 17:13} remember i wasn't here to teach rather the OP appealed to what i have.

So if you can't stand a teaching and you can't use the scriptures to refute it that makes you a busybody Pharisee who doesn't know what he believes yet fighting to stop those who wants to learn from learning. Matthew 23:13

That's why the OP is annoyed with you!

delkuf:
am not stalking you. Wetin concern me and you. I can't just stand when you say all this rubbish jw believe in. It is bad

You are the devil here because i asked the OP:

MaxInDHouse:
I'm not a teacher o i only pass on what i received from JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES? 1Corinthans 4:7
So are you ready to LEARN from Jehovah's Witnesses?

And this is his response:

Thankgod89:
Jehovah's Witnesses read the Bible, and I see no reason not to learn from them. All we advocate for is that every doctrine must be Christ-centered.

So who are you to decide what happens here when you are neither the OP nor moderator?

delkuf:
your doctrine are just demonic

Yet you keep on requesting for it unable to use God's word to refute it.

Just stop stalking me because i wasn't talking to you before you jumped into the thread!

delkuf:
I don't know why jump into conclusions.

Exactly what you did when i was talking to him not you!

delkuf:
i cannot support any thing jw.

I can understand.

So stop giving yourself unnecessary headache if you don't want something stay far away from it but you can't shut down the truth no matter how angry or bitter you may be!

Thankgod89:
If you want to text, then text—stop using emojis. Let's hear your reasoning.

You dey fall my hand!

I'm telling you today that none of them have anything tangible to contribute.

delkuf:
this doesn't justify that miracles are no longer performed after Jesus left.
Are you really saying that there is no miracles anymore. I am surprise ooooo

I told you to calmly read my comments don't read with malicious intent because that won't help you.

God keeps working till today {John 5:17} but no longer through the hands of any so called believer.

For your information among Jehovah's Witnesses miracles do happens that we are sure this is the finger of God but not through the hands of anyone!

Thankgod89:
Hello, go and sit down somewhere!

Please let him ask whatever seems wrong to him Jesus loves whoever wants to know by asking thought provoking questions! Matthew 7:7-8

delkuf:
really, and it was written in the Bible

YES!
Read Matthew 21:43; 23:37-38

From that time the power follows only his disciples so after their death it ended!

Thankgod89:
Is that all it takes to be in right standing with God?

I ignored him because he's inconsistent with his inquiry!

delkuf:
you haven't answered my question.
The Israelite are not gentile. The Israelite are children of God. So what ifan Israelite leaves Israel to another can't he perform miracles there

After the death of first century disciples of Christ whether you are Israelite or even from the bloodline of Mary the mother of Jesus God gives that power to nobody again!

delkuf:
so because there is no other tribe that performed miracles that means miracles stop with the Israelite. Now let me ask you, what if in this present time a Israelite leaves Israel and go to another country, can't he perform miracles in that country.

You don't calm down when dealing with scriptural discussions.
First of all God never gave a gentile the power to perform miracle, secondly God promised the Israelites that in the last days of Jerusalem miracles will occur through the hands of faithful Israelites.

So after the destruction of Jerusalem in the first century miracles cease and there was no miracles again until today.

Why?

Jerusalem is the city where God's name was established with pure worship and since it was destroyed gradually miracles stopped completely.

God only heal but not through the hands of anyone claiming believer, even among Jehovah's Witnesses we still experience miracles today but no one is given the credit as believer through whose hand such a miracle occurred.

So get it right: God is still doing His works but the gift is no longer given to anyone after the death of Jesus' first century Jewish disciples!

delkuf:
where is that in the Bible. So the miracles that have been performed since Jesus Christ left earth, what are those.
Keep living a life that have twisted by your elders

Mention one none Israelite in the Bible who performed a miracle!

delkuf:
am not saying I was healed of covid oooo. All am saying is that I cannot be campaigning that I want covid so that I can be healed of God.
But during that time there where healed of covid

No one was given the gift of healing outside Israel, so if anyone is healed it's due to practices that neutralize the power of the virus.

Gabrielshow24:
😂😂😂😂
In summary, you make your god very incapable🤨.

Where was your lying god during COVID-19 outbreak?

Gabrielshow24:
So your 'christian' doctrines 😂 purports that God can't perform Miracles any longer.

Your god should have cured COVID-19 patients openly not lying o!

delkuf:
so I should be campaigning over the place abi. Didn't hear of miracles during covid 19. People that was heal from covid 19

LIAR!
You should have moved to the place where the affected persons were quarantined so the whole world may know not lying today!

delkuf:
you see where you jw have issues, didn't Jesus perform miracles in the same earth that we live in. Didn't he open the eyes of the blind and did dives miracles, but you are saying that now we will wait for God's kingdom to come before such miracles can happen again, whereas the Lord Jesus said greater works that he did is what we would do not heaven, in the same earth that we are.

So you jw don't really follow the teaches of Jesus. You are just cutting the teaches of Jesus

Where were you during COVID-19?

DaddyCoool:
When you suspend your brain (like you freely admit you have done), what faculty will you be using to search the scriptures?

Suspending my brains means i will only act on the interpretations of those Jesus assigned to teach his group {Matthew 24:45; 28:20} so that we all can WORK together as ONE! John 17:20-23
But when it's time to defend my faith then i will pray for God's Holy Spirit to remind me all the things i've learned. John 14:26
Aren't you amazed at such efficacy with which i'm handling the scriptures? 2Timothy 2:15
Well it's a sign that i'm on the same page with Jesus! Act 4:13

Worship in spirit and truth means there is no specific worship center where all the people must go yearly like it was in the days of Jesus.
In Jesus' days anyone who wants to be declared righteous from God's viewpoint must join the Jews to worship inside the temple in Jerusalem {John 4:20} but from the moment Jesus began his earthly ministry faithful people only need to gather around Jesus wherever he goes, whoever is not with Jesus is just a walking corpse! Matthew 8:22
After Jesus left the earth faithful people only need to gather and discuss what Jesus taught in the Bible so anywhere they gather is approved as holy! Act 2:1-3
Today true believers meet in designated buildings called "KINGDOM HALLS" in all the earth there they meet regularly to discuss what Jesus taught and how to go about the assignment he gave his disciples!

Gabrielshow24:
In some years to come, I believe scientists will study Max's brain to answer these questions.
How far can a man be dumb? 🤔

You goofed big time because there are millions of JWs throughout the world and scientists are so scared that at the mention of that group name "Jehovah's Witnesses" they tremble knowing fully well that this group has used the same book they despised (Bible) to solve the greatest puzzle that's been battled for centuries! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

jaephoenix:
Stuff this bullshit in your assss. You're not contributing to the topic nor answering the question

I'm not talking to you rather my post is meant for the OP who said to me:

Thankgod89:
Jehovah's Witnesses read the Bible, and I see no reason not to learn from them. All we advocate for is that every doctrine must be Christ-centered.

You are an atheist never ready to learn and moreover you have told me:

jaephoenix:
Bro, maybe I'll stop debating with you. You don't answer questions, but instead deflect it to answer a different question.

So is your brain now malfunctioning that you forgot that you said you will stop talking to me?

MrPresident1:
This is blasphemy. You are going to hell.

Mr politicians please interpret what Jesus meant here:

"I cannot do a single thing of my own initiative........I seek, not my own will, but the will of him who sent me. " John 5:30

My own interpretation: Jesus suspended the use of his brain only to do exactly as his father says.

Oya Mr Hellfire politician let's hear yours.