₦airaland Forum

GothamCities:
Can you show me where I gave support to wars? You are yet to prove your shameless lies accusing me of cursing and abusing.

Can Christians be soldiers?

AbuTwins:
The Prophecy in Matthew 2:23 has no proof from all the accepted books of the old testament!
So it can be that:
1. Matthew made a honest mistake.
2. Matthew deliberately lied to link Jesus with the former Prophetic expectation.
3. Matthew was quoting a scripture not included in the Bible today which he had access to.

In John 1:19-21,
And this was John’s testimony when the Jews of Jerusalem sent priests and Levites to ask him, “Who are you?” He did not refuse to confess, but openly declared, “I am not the Christ.” “Then who are you?” they inquired. “Are you Elijah?” He said, “I am not.”“Are you the Prophet?” He answered, “No.”

So it was claimed the Jews were expecting three different Prophets, 1. Christ 2. Elijah and 3. The Prophet!

The alleged Matthew quoted prophecies wrongly also in Matthew 2:15 - where he stayed until the death of Herod. This fulfilled what the Lord had spoken through the prophet: “Out of Egypt I called My Son.” trying to quote Hosea 11:1 out of context -When Israel was a child, I loved him, and out of Egypt I called My son.

Matthew 27:9
Then what was spoken through Jeremiah the prophet was fulfilled: “ They took the thirty pieces of silver, the price set on Him by the people of Israel, 10and they gave them for the potter’s field, as the Lord had commanded me.”…

vs Zechariah 11:12-13 (not Jeremiah) The usual excuse is that Jeremiah was together with Zechariah earlier!
Then I told them, “If it seems right to you, give me my wages; but if not, keep them.” So they weighed out my wages, thirty pieces of silver. / And the LORD said to me, “Throw it to the potter”—this magnificent price at which they valued me. So I took the thirty pieces of silver and threw them to the potter in the house of the LORD.
But the contexts of the prophecies does not corroborate what Matthew was saying![/size]

I have told you guys that if you have any difficulty with Bible message go to the JWs this is the group that's working tirelessly to unravel all the sacred secrets.

First of all there is no mention of that name Nazareth or Nazarene in the Old Testament which means any prophecy that has to do with that name can't go word for word.
For instance let's say some 2,000 years ago the Oracle revealed that a man born and raised close to Ọ̀dàn will rule over Yorùbá nation then in modern times someone now made reference to what the Oracle revealed but said "It has been revealed through the Oracle that the man will come from Ìbàdàn" surely you can't figure out the similarity since it's not the same word.
But if you use discernment you will find out that the name "Ìbàdàn" is an abbreviation of "ẹ̀bá ọ̀dàn" meaning close to Ọ̀dàn!

Nazareth is not mentioned in the Hebrew Scriptures. Some suppose Matthew had reference to some lost prophetic book or some unwritten tradition, but his expression, “spoken through the prophets,” is used by writers of the Christian Greek Scriptures only in reference to the same canonical collection of the Hebrew Scriptures we have today. The key to understanding, apparently, lies in equating Nazarene with neʹtser, mentioned above as meaning sprout. With this in mind, it is evident that Matthew was referring to what Isaiah (11:1) had said concerning Messiah: “There must go forth a twig out of the stump of Jesse; and out of his roots a sprout [we·neʹtser] will be fruitful.” Another Hebrew word, tseʹmach, also means sprout and was used by other prophets when referring to the Messiah. Matthew used the plural, saying that “prophets” had mentioned this coming “Sprout.” For example, Jeremiah wrote about the “righteous sprout” as an offshoot of David. (Jer 23:5; 33:15) Zechariah describes a king-priest “whose name is Sprout,” a prophecy that could apply only to Jesus the Nazarene, the great spiritual Temple-builder.—Zec 3:8; 6:12, 13

GothamCities:
I already have spiritual brothers and sisters everywhere in the world. None of them are antichrists like you.

And you support WARS so that soldiers can go and kill your spiritual brothers and sisters in other lands simply because they are not your race!

GothamCities:
And you did not read that all.thungs were made by Him, existed through Him and for Him?

He is the FIRST BORN means of all that's created he was the first! Proverbs 8:22-30

Softmirror:
Was he ever invited when his congregation were still destroying their electronics, always looking sober? Take it or leave it. Kumuyi of today is not the same as Kumuyi of yesterday.

The truth is he was a former member of Jehovah's Witnesses Organization so it's whatever Jehovah's Witnesses teaches he wants to establish except the fact that JWs don't have a soul owner of the organization.
Kumuyi was following all the teachings of JWs his gullible followers never knew this but later when he discovered that he's not gaining support unlike his friends who accommodates so many things he began making changes!
It was the publication of Watchtower (JWs) Kumuyi read that he found about the negative effects of television in our world today but instead of him to used discernment he condemned television when Jehovah's Witnesses only cautioned their members regarding the information and bad influence of TV.
Only Jehovah's Witnesses don't participate in politics nor military service Kumuyi tried to imitate that too that's why he wasn't going close to politicians back then but how can he manage the case of members who are military personnels by profession?
Among JWs they will never baptize you if you're into military services so Kumuyi shied away from that.
Back then he made his gullible followers go on preaching in buses and bus stops but since he's not taking the lead how can such thing last?
So you're right Sir Kumuyi has made a U-turn!

GothamCities:
Maxindhouse said Jesus was a created being. The confusion these people put themselves in can only happen after one has been bewitched.

A FIRSTBORN child is one of the children o! Colossians 1:15

GothamCities:
So, this is how you intend to dodge the question. Have I exchanged insults with you before you accused me of cursing and abusing? Your brothers in the fake christ even supported you by liking your lying post. Birds of a feather! Mention where I abused or cursed anyone if you have any honour whatsoever!

Gather yourselves together and start the work Jesus assigned to his faithful disciples then you will know that by the time you have REAL SPIRITUAL BROTHERS in all the countries of the world nobody needs to tell you that the works of military men is against God's will by the time soldiers are killing your so called fellow believers who supposed to be doing the work of your God in other lands!

DaddyCoool:
Yiu are brainwashed. In everyday language who is your neighbor? Is it not ONLY in the Bible that neighbor has a different meaning?
Also, you said "God said...", so you agree Christ is interchangeable with God?

When a prophet of God delivers God's message does that makes the prophet a part of Trinity?
Well at Leviticus 19:18 Moses is the one delivering the message o!

DaddyCoool:
There can be all sorts of meanings to words (I was just telling you about brother). But here we SPECIFICALLY mean "Produce from NOTHING" - as in Genesis

The English defined CREATION but since you want to argue you're running up and down.
Well it's their language and they have spoken so create doesn't necessarily mean from nothing.

DaddyCoool:
Christ gave a parable in Hebrew or Aramaic, which have been transliterated and translated many times. If he had just said neighbor that man wouldn't have asked "who is my neighbor? "

Now it's obvious you're just running from pillar to post.
God's word says we should love our neighbour as ourselves {Leviticus 19:18} that's why the Jews wanted Jesus to define what God mean by the word NEIGHBOR since they only view fellow Jews as neighbor. Jesus' parable really makes them feel uncomfortable because Jews don't take Samaritans as neighbors despite being descendants of Jacob like them. That's why Jesus proved to them that a neighbor doesn't need to be someone living next to me or someone i know rather anyone who feels concerned about the well being of people around him is our neighbor.

But when talking about BROTHER such ones must be a person with whom i share something in common so it may be blood brother, business associate or brother by faith. You and i aren't related in any way so you can't be my brother o rather you are my NEIGHBOUR!

DaddyCoool:
Stop making a fool of yourself. Scientists have not been able to create even an atom, living or not living. You know full well we mean create from nothing, as in Genesis

So it's no longer dictionary but scientists shey?

Now it's scientists that's determining the meaning of English language!

DaddyCoool:
All the definitions define it in terms of nearness EXCEPT the biblical - and the Bible was NOT written in English!

So English agreed with the Bible while you disagree.

Wonder shall never end!

DaddyCoool:
OMG you can't be this dense. EVERYTHING that resulted in cell phone was already here. NOTHING was created. Someone else please tell him

Stop lying nah!

See the dictionary again.
English says create can be defined as "to make or produce from other"

DaddyCoool:
Christ did not speak English.
In English neighbor means propinquity!

The English defines NEIGHBOUR in the screenshot below o they said a fellow human being!

DaddyCoool:
I don't think you know what create means. See below. Everything in existence is energy

Perhaps your ancestors were using mobile phones two centuries ago after all energy existed in their time!

DaddyCoool:
Nonsense. Humans created NOTHING. Just rearranged what's already there. Ever heard "matter can be neither created nor destroyed"
But even in the scenario you gave you can't say humans created EVERYTHING, as is said of Christ!

Everything else humans are using on this planet that's lifeless was CREATED by man jọọ!

DaddyCoool:
BRAINWASHED!😅
It's the other way round! You can colloquially call any man brother, but NOT everyone is your neighbor! UNLESS you invent your own English!

According to the dictionary neighbour is anyone that comes around so it's not compulsory they must live near you.
The Samaritan never lived near the Jew that was attacked by robbers o!

DaddyCoool:
Yeah? So why did the Bible say he created EVERYTHING. If he was created is he not part of the everything?? Meaning he created himself!

God created humans but everything we see like television, radio, mobile phones, Internet, aeroplane, skyscrapers are all CREATED by humans whom God created does that makes humans God?

DaddyCoool:
Then you need to invent your own English. See definition of neighbor below. On the other hand, brotherhood of man means yo u can coloquially call any man brother

If you're chatting with me here when we don't know each other that makes us NEIGHBOURS on this forum because we come across each other but talking about BROTHER naaaaaaaaah never a person with whom i share nothing!

DaddyCoool:
Go and find out the difference between "in the beginning was God" and "In the beginning God came into being or God was created"
Hint: in one God was ALREADY there!

Jesus was CREATED in the beginning and that's what makes him to be with God in the beginning of creation God has no beginning so when John said the same was with God in the beginning it's clear that Jesus was CREATED in the beginning!

DaddyCoool:
But you are NOT Jesus and you just said you also use for mere blood brother!

You're the one turning things over here because it's stupid to call a stranger my brother if we are not related in any way, you people may be used to such nonsense but the truth remains that if i don't know you but both of us are alive on this planet then we are neighbours i can only acknowledge someone as my brother if we are related through blood, business or faith.
Which means you are never and will never be my brother forever and ever!

DaddyCoool:
Brah (short for "brother"!), so your brainwashed self has finally seen there are nuances to the word "brother". @bolded "spiritual family" implies spiritual brother. If I call you brother it's not in the same sense I use it for my church member or younger brother.
"Bro, brother, etc." are common coloquialisms and only a brainwashing agent will insist you only use it for only JW!

Go and convince Jesus who first insisted on using BROTHER only for his spiritual family!

There is no faith without work! James 2:18-26

Aemmyjah:
Your brain needs small polishing walahi 😂

Each of them just fabricate his own idea which he or she wants to be taught that's why they can never ever agree.

What is the import of that phrase:
"In the beginning" if someone wasn't born at the time? Proverbs 8:22

Surely Jesus was born or created in the beginning then trained to create all other things! Proverbs 8:23-30 compare to Colossians 1:15

gohf:
how do you even understand your own explanation? From what you have written what then does it mean to be born again?

I suppose to ignore you because i expected this question from other readers, however for the sake of other interested followers of this thread i will oblige but please next time don't engage me!

BORN AGAIN simply means having a as spiritual body with which the bearer will associate with the angels or demons.

This spiritual body is in two forms:

On God's side it's only from the midst of Christ's faithful followers a person could be CHOSEN and this spiritual body awaits the born again during the resurrection because he will no longer be a part of humans but like angels in heaven he will rule with the Christ.

On Satan's side whoever accepts the mark of the beast (666) will be given his own spiritual body to dine and wine with Satan and other agents who are corulers of planet earth now. They have a special seat reserved for them in Satan's government.

So both are BORN AGAIN in the real sense but the difference between the two is that those on God's side will have to wait until the Kingdom is given to their King (Christ) when he will come to take them to heaven where they will forever be alive with him but as for those on Satan's side they are the world rulers today who will all perish along with Satan when Christ begins his rule!

Janosky:
You have refused to understand Matthew 12:50 & Matthew 10:38
Jesus said his brother is the person following Jesus to do his Father's will.. (Matthew 10:33-38 = Matthew 12:47-50).
Jesus Christ did NOT worship 2 persons.
Believers in Christ (my Brother) can NOT worship 2 persons.
You either get it or you don't get it..

He is ashamed of his real brothers since they can easily pick up weapons against one another at the command of worldly politicians so he wants to misconstrue it all by claiming peace lovers are also his brothers whereas he disagreed completely with Jesus' way of ensuring peace!

DaddyCoool:
He missed the point.
Here's the point:
Even your blood is not your brother unless JW!

Jesus said that because he is not from planet earth and he existed before the creation of the world so he is older than Adam and Eve but when he now said his disciples are his family he's talking about the SPIRITUAL FAMILY those worshiping in Spirit and Truth! John 4:24

So only Jehovah's Witnesses are my own brothers, sisters, fathers, mothers, aunties and uncles according to Jesus' view point but even if i have to consider others as my brothers we must be related through business or blood in the natural sense such ones i do call them at least once in a week.

But you with whom i share nothing how on earth am i your brother?

You can acknowledge everyone as your brother but i BELIEVE/AGREE/TRUST what Jesus said regarding those who share the same line of thought with him on the matter of faith he said:

"Go to MY BROTHERS and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God." John 20:17b

What about Jews who refused to agree with him on the matter of faith?
Jesus said to them:

You are from YOUR FATHER the Devil, and you wish to do the desires of YOUR FATHER. John 8:44a

So it's clear according to Jesus whatever makes you disagree with me on the matter of faith means we are not of the same father so we can't be brothers but neighbours.

I will continue to expose your ignorance at least everyone can grasp this because it's as simple as ABC!

DaddyCoool:
It is NOT up to you. This is a very tiny planet, populated entirely by two people and their offsprings. Whether you like it or not they're your brothers

Try to rewrite Jesus' statement {Matthew 12:46-50} at least it's in your own copy of the Bible!

The phrase "BORN AGAIN" has deeper meaning that most churchgoers can't grasp but i will explain.

There are two persons dragging an issue one is an accuser while the other is the most powerful in the universe.

Almighty God said humans can't rule themselves successfully but an enemy who wanted to rule slandered God so as to gain the support of humans.

The first human couple joined this enemy and sold all their descendants to slavery under the rulership of Satan (Slanderer)

From that time onwards mankind had to face the fact that whoever wants to rule in either side must be anointed/initiated, in the circle belonging to Satan humans have to become members of his coven by serving him as their Lord after all he is the head of rebels but on the other hand Jehovah made someone His anointed King (Messiah or Christ) who will conquer the enemy (Satan) by gathering 144,000 from those under the human government and God will anoint them to rule with Jesus but they have a huge task ahead of them if they must win the crown as Christ's corulers.

This is what Nicodemus wanted as a ruler among the Jews he wanted to cross from being a member of Satan's coven to God's side that's why Jesus told him that he must be BORN AGAIN! John 3:3-5

The truth is whether God's side of Satan's whoever wants a seat as coruler must be anointed or initiated but while Satan's agents are given their rewards right here on planet earth {Luke 4:5-7} Jesus' corulers must give all what they have now to secure the seat with Jesus in heaven! Luke 18:22

So either side both have a lot to do with the spirit realms!

LIE!