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Lessonteacher:
what you wrote here is not entirely true,
the GOVERNING BODY decisions are based on their knowledge and understanding of the bible, according to them

Jesus' disciples asked him a thought provoking question regarding how to identify the group with which Jesus will be working invisibly.

Here is it:

“Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look! Here is the Christ,’ or, ‘There!’ do not believe it. For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will perform great signs and wonders so as to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones. Look! I have forewarned you.  Therefore, if people say to you, ‘Look! He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out; ‘Look! He is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. For just as the lightning comes out of the east and shines over to the west, so the presence of the Son of man will be. Matthew 24:23-27


So in response they said to him: “Where, Lord?” He said to them: “Where the BODY is, there also the EAGLES will be gathered together.” Luke 17:37

Please what did Jesus mean by the BODY ?

And who are the EAGLES in this illustration?

No trial on judgment day the Executioner will just come with heavenly armies and destroy all evildoers in one day.
So don't expect that people will stand facing God for trial!

LordReed:
Yet Jesus purportedly healed the Phoenician woman's daughter and the Roman soldier's servant. LoLz.
Your god should make it harder for me to be an atheist by healing an amputee. LMAO.

The woman's daughter was healed due to her humility Jesus explained that his miracles was for Israelites alone but due to having faith in Jesus and willingness to accept him as Lord Jesus healed her daughter.

My God doesn't need people like you that's why Jesus said it's those his father draws that will gain access to the truth. John 6:44

So you're OK being what you are now: atheist!

They will be singled out as totally different from all the others because of their faith! Matthew 5:14-16

Lessonteacher:
your are just so correct
they just expect you to throw away yourself and pretend you someone you are not

It's mistake of identity!

They were sent to fish out individuals like them {Mark 1:17} throughout the world {Matthew 28:19-30; Act 1:8} so if you're feeling what they teach doesn't go well with you don't be disturbed it's what their commander wants from all his followers:

“If anyone wants to come after me, let him disown himself and pick up his torture stake and keep following me. For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it." Matthew 16:24-25

So blame their leader not them! Matthew 10:24-25

LordReed:
Ehen the god should also heal an amputee on purpose na. LoLz.
If the god can act regardless of what he purportedly promised then we can totally expect the god to heal an amputee.

Do you feed your children? Matthew 15:26

Must you feed everyone?

I know you are trying really hard to keep your atheism but know that faith has a lot to do with work on the part of those having it! 2Thessalonians 3:2

Courz:
Every single Jehovah's Witness has doubts in their doctrines and their Way of doing things. Every single one.

You misconstrued FEAR for DOUBT!


There is nothing written in the Bible regarding the works of God that's logical so when faithful servants of God reach a point in time that what they read regarding God's purpose began unfolding they will start to fear because they don't know which one should come first or last {Matthew 17:10} but as the composite signs is unfolding simultaneously faithful ones will begin to work with God faithfully, loyally and wholeheartedly despite their fears.

So if you have doubts nobody is chastising you all you need to ask is:

What keeps others going without let up not that everyone else is doubtful like you.

Only Jehovah's Witnesses organization is doing God's will. First have this in your mind then ask questions regarding what you don't understand but when you choose to believe in countless religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines thinking God is using all of them that's when you won't know how God's will is happening around you.


Take for insurance in the first century there were two Jews one named Theudas first came claiming he is the Messiah but he was killed and all his followers dispassed, then Judas also rose from Galilee claiming he is the Messiah and the same thing happened to him {Act 5:36-37} it took about three decades later that Jesus began his own ministry surely there will be fear in the minds of his disciples as to how this man could be the real Messiah.

Faithful Jews stick to Jesus even though doubtful ones turned back {John 6:64-68} but after all the composite signs regarding the presence of the Messiah were noticed their faith in him was solidified.

So what helped them?

They remained focused that there must be just one Messiah and all the promises of God will be fulfilled in his ministry that's why they kept noting each time a prophecy is fulfilled.

But had it been their minds were divided how are they going to recognize that Jesus is the Christ with all the confusion back then?

So the problem you guys have is indecision! James 4:8

LordReed:
You are the one telling me Paul was not a believer so by implication the god healed an unbeliever. Therefore unbelievers can have their amputated limbs restored or you wan change mouth again? LoLz.

Healed Paul on purpose!

That's what you need to understand not that God must continue healing everyone when they have no business with Him.

God promised the Israelites that they will see a sign when the Messiah is around and miracles that supposed to happen in Paradise will take place among them to show that the Messiah (Christ) has come into their midst that's what will alert them to obey and work with him.

So when John the baptist questioned Jesus' credentials as to whether he is the Christ or they should be expecting someone else Jesus sent John's disciples back to tell him what is happening in their presence {Matthew 11:2-5} to prove that the Christ has begun his work but must the Christ rescue John the baptist?

NO!

WHY?

That's not what God promised anyone.


I often tell you that it's half baked teachings in Christendom that led most of you into atheism you people never knew the will of God yet if someone should ask you most of you will claim you were once Christians!

LordReed:
LoLz. So an unbeliever was healed of blindness? Good news then all those unbelievers with amputated limbs can receive their limbs from your god. Bwahahahahaha!
Continue to go upandan, anywhere you take e dey wait you. LMAO!

Where did God promised you that?

Courz:
Every single Jehovah's Witness has doubts in their doctrines and their Way of doing things. Every single one.

Even Mad MaxinDhouse has his doubts but because of shame he won't admit it since he has used All his strength to promote this Cult. All it takes is for him to keep mixing with ExJWs they call Apostates as he is doing right now. If he keeps this up, he will join us soon. Many of his fellow JWs started this way and they ended up with us. The hold Watchtower has on most JWs is not that strong at this time. Little by little, they will join us. All those empty Kingdom halls, Assembly Halls and Bethel branches being sold didn't become empty for nothing. All those JWs that left started like Mad MaxinDhouse. Mad MaxinDhouse is already showing signs of cracks in his Faith. Soon, he will join us.

All servants of God in the past have what is called FEAR not DOUBT that's why they often ask God questions regarding the instructions He gives them that's always illogical.

So stop deceiving yourself that's fear not doubt but what keeps us going?

Well the continuous fulfillment of prophecies as we see it unfolding gradually {Proverbs 4:18} nobody sees everything completely even Jesus God's only begotten son never knew it all {Matthew 24:36} otherwise we don't need faith again if we have to see it all before loving God's arrangement! Hebrews 11:1

LordReed:
Yet Paul was purportedly healed of blindness. LoLz.

As at the time was Paul a believer in Christ at all?

LordReed:
I'll wait for your god to do the UNBELIEVABLE and restore the limb of an amputee who is faithful.

Faithful people don't anticipate miracles they continue working no matter their condition!

Pathetic show of shame!

People just want to feel something strange has happened either in their presence or to them before they are convinced of the existence of God that's why many have become atheists and the rest still attending religious center are doing so hoping to see it one day!

Janosky:

That WEREY must present evidence of his animal sacrifice for his sin atonement.lets check something
Matthew 10:6 preaching to only the lost sheep of the house of Israel preaching to the most distant part of the earth in Acts 1:8 no dey him Bible.
That WEREY can never have peace.

I often laugh at them when they say Jehovah's organization is changing doctrines.
Well it's ego that's disturbing them because even Jesus God's only begotten son started telling Jehovah in prayer to remove the cup before him despite knowing the reason why he came to the earth {Mark 14:36; Luke 22:42} if the whole arrangement had remain the same with no changes what made Jesus complain asking his father to remove this particular one?
Is he not aware from the very beginning?

The truth is simple God's organization moves with the highest speed and it could turn right, left, back and front in a jiffy {Ezekiel 1:19-21} it's left for members to adapt immediately!

So if anyone wants to be part of this heavenly family he must be ready to adapt speedily not complaining wherever the spirit goes the body moves instantly.
Are you willing to move with God's organization?
It's not by force when Jesus returned to heaven as a spirit creature the same thing applies to him there that's why the scriptures say:

(144,000 spiritual brothers to the lamb) These are the ones who keep following the Lamb no matter where he goes. Revelations 14:4

Of course the faithful great crowd is following them nah! Revelations 7:9

The fruit of God's Holy Spirit is:
LOVE
JOY
PEACE
PATIENCE
KINDNESS
GOODNESS
MILDNESS
FAITH
SELF-CONTROL
Apostle Paul explained that these nine qualities are complete in the fruit of God's Holy Spirit though no single human can have it all due to our imperfect state but a group of faithful people will be noticed with all qualities of God's Holy Spirit and no law could be written against their gathering! Galatians 5:22-23

MindHacker9009:
This is one of your numerous posts where I did not invite you to my thread but you invited yourself to give an answer like you were the 13th apostle of Jesus not mentioned in the New Testament. So you need to know that you cannot just pick and choose which of my threads you want to respond to.

People often respond to what interests them so if out of all Nairalanders i am the only one whose comments you are craving for then it means you know i've been telling you the truth its just that your ego won't allow you to admit it publicly.

Dtruthspeaker:
Says the atheists who keeps company with mad Satanists. Your Damnation is near!

Sorry!

Gabrielshow24:
Abraham blossom blows all that away!
Abraham was conscious along with the rich man and Lazarus👀

Guy it's just an illustration not a life event!

Gabrielshow24:
One thing I know for sure is that all christian sects claim to be "the only true" Group or followers.

Even Islam has such claim "true followers of Jesus"

But under scrutiny it falls apart.
Taking a cursory look at JW one thing stands out your relegation of Jesus to the corner which undermines core christian doctrines and some over the top posits.

Mind you when all write an exam, all believe they are going to do well.

But the matter is not for them to judge but their markers but there are schemes or methods that allows us to check the credibility of a statement!

While JWs have some outstanding characteristics as regards evangelism and others that doesn't diminish some of the flaws in your doctrines!

I tolerate my fellow brothers, I don't say whether Catholic, Pentecostals, JW's, Mormons etc are the true Christian group.

Because in the first place all(christians) should be true but doctrinal differences and interpretations have caused this divide.

And to answer your question I attend kingsword

What is the name of your own church?

If you're not one of Jehovah's Witnesses that's a big problem o!

Gabrielshow24:
That's rather harsh to say.
Claiming to be the real disciples and relegating others as false. You have your views and interpretations which may or may not be wrong.

What is the name of your own church?

If you can't mention then know that Jehovah's Witnesses are the only true Christian group!

MightySparrow:
Mal.3.6 - For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
Jas.1.17 - Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
Heb.13.8 - Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
All scriptures testify that God does not change: He does not grow older or younger, He does not grow weaker or stronger; He does not stop being merciful and compassionate, He has not stopped answering prayers.
One errant organization thinks, they think for God. Who appointed you for that nonsense?!

Mek una agri among unah sef fes!

sonmvayina:
I have told Max

sonmvayina:
Lol...I am not a Christian...
Answer me.
I believe in a creator of the universe...and he don't need a son.
To think he impregnated a man's wife is a big insult to him...
He is omniscient
He is omnipotent
He is Omni present

Oya convince them to agree with you nah after all Max did not agree with you but they do!

sonmvayina:
Look whose talking about thinking straight...That is way way beyond your intelligence....you are incapable of it..

It's like you just wake up from slumber, are you the one i was addressing in that post?

LordReed:
Then people Jesus healed were not faithful so the faithless can have their amputated limbs restored. Good news. LoLz.

Anyhow you want it my guy anyhow you want!

sonmvayina:
Lol..who else believe it's a messianic prophesy? Only you...

sonmvayina:
It is a cult....forget those gibberish they feed you with..

MightySparrow:
I am only saying that JW is an organization against Jehovah.
An organization that mispresents Jehovah.

Mek una agri among unah sef fes!

sonmvayina:
For the nth time..it is not about Jesus ...
It is about a sign for king Ahaz...to assure him of his safety..

Convince them before thinking of Max nah!

sonmvayina:
Jokes aside...Watch tower is a cult..
They tell you what to think and how to think.
Many a times I have told Max that Isaiah 7:14 is not a messianic prophesy. He will still quote it in his next post...as one.
He is just brain washed cultist, he does not even realize it...

And i keep telling you it's about Jesus Christ but since that means i'm brainwashed prove to them Jesus is not the Messiah.


On this thread you people have:

• Courz who said Jehovah is a demon.
• Otenearron who said the Bible is fake.
• Jaephoenix who said God doesn't exist.
• Sonmvayina who said Jesus is Fake.
• MightySparrow a Pentecostal.

Yet all of you want to correct God's organization millions of people working as one big family of peace loving worshipers.

I hope you're able to convince them that Jesus is fake and that no miracles ever happened in Bible times it was all allegory.

Wish you a safe delivery!

LordReed:
I only engaged you because you already broke the pact yourself so that's on you.

Hmmmmmmm, now you've given me a reason to believe that you're not the same as jae with this i now know that you're a different person.

LordReed:
So? How does that change anything? LoLz.

Faithful people aren't anticipating instant healing that will not be permanent rather they want God's Kingdom where they can enjoy everlasting peace in good health!

LordReed:
And yet he purportedly rose Lazarus from the dead. You and your god have no excuse. LoLz.

Just a bonus Lazarus died again!

Stop speaking against the fine fruits of God's Holy Spirit!

jaephoenix:
Oga show me or acknowledge u r a liar

Something you've said to me countless times when all your gragra failed to make me angry.

Ọmọ you've said it again so try to stick to your word!