Kayberg: Charlie Boy's followers… How can a Freemasonry be a Christian? Freemasonry is 33rd Degree Illuminati... Don't you know? Anyway, you have been made proselyte by Charles and his cohorts… you remain bound by his religion.
“A student is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his master. It is enough for the student to become as his teacher, and the slave as his master. If people have called the master of the house Be·elʹze·bub, how much more those of his household?" ~Jesus of Nazareth Matthew 10:24-25
Let them say "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" because there is no other Christian organization!
Who asked you to come for cross examination of religion so if you want to know what true faith is please explain without making comparison:
Tell me what appeals to you in the religion without making comparison and i will tell you what makes Jehovah's Witnesses appealing to any right thinking individual without making comparisons!
Explore2xmore: Whether you send prayers to him or not he is already blessed.
This is a lie!
That's why you can't find it in any scriptures of the Hebrews where they are praying for dead people because it's the works they did while they are alive that will continue to be their lot afterwards, it's paganism that allows praying for dead people because they don't know what their gods could do about the dead. If someone has been blessed by the Almighty God neither your prayer or curse can have any impact in the judgement of such a person. You see this is the reason i found it really difficult to wrap that religion over my head because it makes no practical sense!
You say Muhammad has been blessed but there is no proof, he died through poisoning, all his children were killed in his life time, his followers later began fighting and killing one another after his death. Please which of all these proves this Arab man had God's blessing?
You're free to close your eyes to the truth but you can't compel right thinking individuals to join you in your delusion there is nothing to write home about that man or his god.
The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob declared that this people are blessed that's why the whole world including those Arabs wants to relate with them by force!
Explore2xmore: Please show proof that prophet Muhammad pbuh is in need of our prayers.
Yet you are all praying for him and his family!
Explore2xmore: This is simply a sign of respect and love for him, as well as acknowledging the significant role he played in propagating the message of Islam
Ọmọ if this Arab man doesn't need prayers then why are you always praying for him when you go for salat nah?
No weapon formed against their faith that can have any success, they will continue to go out declaring the GOOD NEWS assigned to them because their righteousness is from the most high God! Isaiah 54:17
GothamCities: Yet it has the same holes and features! Hey, I'm done with you. If you like use your eternity to play dice. I've given you the best advice anyone can give you - find a seat, and think deeply about your eternity. Bye!!
So he was going about with holes in his hands shey? Well you've taken your stand there is no need chatting with you and as for eternity there is none for people who aren't connected to the holy ones God anointed as Christ's brothers! Matthew 25:34-46
Explore2xmore: For someone feigning concerns about non concise responses. Regardless of wheher prophet Muhammad pbuh is prayed for or not he is assured.
You're lying to your own soul!
Davido gave Chioma his assurance before the whole world now how would you describe someone who feels like begging Davido to stick to his promise which he made publicly to Chioma? Even Chioma can compel Davido to grant the request of someone else because of the love he has for her. That's imperfect humans but you are saying God whose words has the greatest of all guarantee that you still need to continue pleading for Him to grant what He Himself assured His beloved prophet. Who are you and what pedigree do you have to intercede for God's prophet? Shouldn't it have been the other way around? Ọmọ Muslims praying for Muhammad shows your faith in Islam is futile if you're still praying for the prophet who brought that religion!
Michael547: Oga bring out the word soul from the two Bible verse since you've refused to answer if soul and spirit means the same thing. I don't know where you saw soul in the two bible verse that I gave you.
From the two bible verse I gave you in Ecclesiastics 12:7 and Psalms 146:4. Does any of those verse claims that the spirit goes to the grave or to hell?
In the parable of the rich man and Lazarus, if Abraham was truly in heaven, how do you explain Jesus's word in John 3:13. When did Abraham get to heaven?
In the case of Samuel and saul, why did God forbid the isrealite from communicating with the dead if it was truly Samuel that was speaking? Tell us where Samuel was speaking from using the bible.
Novice like him do praise themselves bragging they preached to JWs when my brothers just walk away to avoid unnecessary arguments in the field.
GothamCities: You better go and sit down and think about your eternity!
The Bible said the other body has been CORRUPTED yet you're saying that's the body Jesus resurrected with even though his disciples couldn't recognize him!
Well their inner eyes couldn't recognize him until he began acting like their master so the body wasn't the same!
Explore2xmore: This is simply a sign of respect and love for him, as well as acknowledging the significant role he played in propagating the message of Islam
So Muhammad who pleased your Allah and got assurance from your Allah still needs the prayers of people who are supposed to look up to his example for salvation!
Well that's not respect but lack of faith in your Allah Jehovah assured those following Jesus {Matthew 17:5} and Jesus assured those with him! Matthew 28:18
It's clear you people are taught to pity your prophet but Jesus doesn't need anyone's prayers neither his disciples because they've been assured of their salvation!
GothamCities: Didn't I say it? Hater of truth. What has female or make giot to do with it? The females too didn't recognize him. Infact when He was talking to Mary, Mary thought she was conversing with the gardener. The guys on the road to Emaus too never knew until He disappeared. He even are bread and drank with them!
The same body the Bible said has been CORRUPTED! 1Corinthians 15:42-44
epfa: Jesus said that we would know the truth and the truth would set us free. He was telling us that the truth about God would help us recognize we do not need to be ensnared to the religious hierarchies of tyrannical hypocrites.
Is the Watchtower organization run by hypocrites? What does the evidence show?
Watchtower is a group member of URI "United Religions Initiative".
A group "member" is more than just an "affiliate."
In order to become a member, Watchtower representatives filled out applications, were interviewed, and agreed to uphold the URI preamble and charter.
The URI charter is based off of the UN charter. The URI was formed for the specific purpose of working with the UN in regard to promoting interfaith channels through which to work the UN agenda.
One example of how the Watchtower has promoted the UN agenda in harmony with their URI objectives can be seen in the Watchtower PID promoted news items where UN holidays are woven together with the JWorg logo. These online news items mention the local Watchtower branch representatives by name as contacts for the Watchtower PID piece, showing that the Watchtower membership to the URI is not merely some random JWs but is actually the leadership of the Watchtower organization. The URI enrollment was done with permission from Bethel for the purpose of gaining favor from the governments of the nations so that Watchtower could continue their corrupt business practices, widening their operations into further territory.
Some recent Watchtower URI UN promotions articles...
The mention of the religions on those pages is not talking about what religions are in the area in general. The mention of the religions on those pages is specifying which religious groups actively contacted the URI and asked to join for the purpose of promoting the UN agenda. The Watchtower is a member of the governance of those "Cooperation Circles" alongside the other religious groups listed.
This link explains how a religious group becomes a member of a "Cooperation Circle" and what that membership entails:
Here is an example of a URI interfaith activity Watchtower representatives were a part of that involved practices a typical JW would be "disfellowshipped" for as an apostate:
"Quinaroa Cooperation Circle, based in Venezuela, upholds and keeps ancestral heritage alive by practicing Indegenous methods of agriculture, education, and nature preservation. Last September, the members of Quinaroa Cooperation Circle gathered near the Urao lagoon in Mérida, Venezuela’s Yohama Park, which is affected by a severe drought. They organized a traditional water blessing, presenting corn, chicha, cacao, chimo, and fruit “to give back what the lagoon has given for so long: wisdom and food.” Children, young people, and old people alike danced in honor of their ancestors, singing from the heart, and opening their thoughts in union with all their brothers and sisters of the world. Not only did the blessing include all ages, but also participants of many faiths, including: Indigenous people, Quakers, Catholics, Jehovah’s Witnesses, agnostics, and Evangelicals. “The power [of multiple religions] to gather from the harmony of their hearts…is a way to build a path to peace,” says Enoé Texier, Regional Coordinator for URI-Latin America and the Caribbean."
The URI has a youtube channel you can find under "uriglobal" where there are UN agenda messages recorded from various religious leaders, including Wiccan, Bahai, Hindu, Spiritualist, Muslim, Humanist, and Roman Catholic, among many others.
(To get a quick taste of what URI is about you can check out on the uriglobal youtube channel the videos called "Unveiling the Star" and also "Circles of Light 2021." )
JW Watchtower is a governing member of United Nations enrolled NGOs throughout the world.
"Cooperation Circle (CC) members accept the rights and responsibilities of membership and share ownership and leadership of URI. They initiate interfaith actions, participate in regular communication, give and receive mutual support, and select Trustees to the Global Council. Each CC helps to bring about enduring daily interfaith cooperation around the world in its own way."
The JW Watchtower organization is part of the 14 governing members listed on the NERAT URI Cooperation Circle: "Cooperation Circle (CC) members come from Christian, Muslim and Traditional rural dweller backgrounds. They are connected by strong bonds...NERAT is a member of the Plateau Peace Practitioners Network—an umbrella network of over 100 peacebuilding organizations in Plateau State. Some of the most recent activities of NERAT include: HIV/AIDS Awareness Campaign in Riyom on World AIDS Day in December 2014, Peace Procession and Rally on September 21, 2014, and celebrating UN International Day of Peace."
The JW Watchtower organization is part of the 12 governing members listed on the YADA URI Cooperation Circle: “Our purpose is to put the vision of the United Religions Initiative into action.”
"Some parents convince their children that they should not play or collaborate with children of a different faith for any reason, and children learn to hate and discriminate. As a reaction to this, Interfaith Youth for Change created a dialogue program, where youth can meet and learn each other’s culture or religion and grow in mutual respect and understanding. Members also invite youth to participate in community services, English classes, sport activities, weekly interfaith dialogues, peace events and picnics. All projects of Interfaith Youth for Change are aligned with their purpose of creating a peaceful environment in their community." The JW Watchtower organization is part of the 38 governing members listed on the Interfaith Youth for Change URI Cooperation Circle.
"Umodzi Youth Organization (UYO) Cooperation Circle (CC) is located in Mbayani Blantyre, Malawi. CC members focus on issues of conflict resolution, health, education, human rights, and government." The JW Watchtower organization is part of the 7 governing members listed on the UYO URI Cooperation Circle.
"The PYAO emerged following growing concerns among youths over lack of an enabling and supportive environment for meaningful youth participation in sustainable development and poor access of sexual reproductive health and rights." The JW Watchtower organization is part of the 8 governing members listed on the PYAO URI Cooperation Circle.
Some of the activities of the PYAO include distributing condoms and "emergency pills" for termination of pregnancy. (See linked newsletter below.)
"Our purpose is to promote enduring daily interfaith cooperation." The JW Watchtower organization is part of the 40 governing members listed on the Matindi URI Cooperation Circle.
GothamCities: If I answer you will you accept? Of cause no. You're not asking for truth sake, your mind is made up on lies! Here you go: Luke 24:16: "But their eyes were holden that they should not know him."
Even the females that goes to his grave? John 20:15-16
GothamCities: He resurrected with His body. The life giving Spirit dwells in that resurrected body. We too will resurrect with that same type of body if we die before Jesus comes.
GothamCities: Ha! 1. Jesus doesn't preach to any other being except men. Men are the only reason why He came to earth, died and resurrected. Only men. 2. Peter clearly said He preached to the disobedient people who refused to enter the ark in the days of Noah. Very very clear. Clearer than 7up!
GothamCities: We'll find his bones my brother! Meanwhile, the fish that swallowed Jonah is no longer to be found anywhere anymore in the universe! How's that a grave? Hen?
But how come they are able to come out of the sea nah? Revelations 20:13
GothamCities: Fish is not grave. Anything that ends up in the belly of a fish goes through a digested process and gets excreted out. Your analogy is very illogical. Fish is not grave!
Are you saying that if we dig the grave of Abraham today we can still find his body?
Why are you this funny?
Won't maggots eat up the body of people in their graves?
essentialone: Meaning any opinion not bible based is nonsense. Right?
That's what Jesus meant when he prayed for his disciples saying:
"Sanctify them by means of the truth; your word is truth" John 17:17
And apostle Paul said:
"All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work." 2Timothy 3:16-17
If opinions from different sources could fly in the midst of Christ's disciples how can they benefit through teaching, reproving, setting matters straight and disciplining in righteousness without a single source of guidance?
Explore2xmore: Calm down. 1. Yes, the Prophet Muhammad pbuh upon sought Allah's pleasure throughout his life. 2. Allah provided several assurances to Prophet Muhammad pbuh throughout his life and mission. Allah reassures Muhammad pbuh of the great reward awaiting the believers in Paradise with him having a distinguished rank amongst the believers.
I'm as calm as ever!
So if Muhammad pleased Allah throughout his life and Allah assured Muhammad then why do Muslims have to pray for Muhammad and his household?
Gabrielshow24: 1) from the Quran, there's no definite answer for that, most of the supposed answer comes from the hadiths. 2) that he was a prophet🤕, that's why Allah said he should ask the people of the book if he doubted 🤔. And yet my Muslim brothers still call the bible corrupt, if the bible was used to reprove/verify Muhammad's visions by Allah then obviously the bible attains an higher role than the Quran. Which leads to the famous phrase "if the bible is wrong then so is the Quran" and the "Islamic dilemma".
Please let him answer because i know the assurance God gave Jesus by reading two verses in the Bible:
“This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved. Listen to him.” Matthew 17:5
And Jesus assured his disciples saying:
"All powers in heaven and on earth has been given to me" Matthew 28:18
That's what made me leave Islam seeing there is no assurance of salvation but it's like my guy wants to challenge that so please allow him to respond!
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I LEFT Christianity To Join Tradition by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:58pm On Dec 05, 2024
