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GothamCities:
Yet he cried and prayed in the grave, the place of inactivity. May God have mercy on you guys!

He wasn't dead but it could have been his end if God didn't intervene that's why Revelations 20:13 said the sea gave up the dead in them because many people were eaten by fish so if Jonah wasn't miraculously rescued that would have been his own GRAVE!

GothamCities:
Explain the scripture in your own language and I'll counter you if it doesn't follow sound interpretation.

How many times do i have to do that?

Angels left their abode in heaven and came down to have SEX with female humans {Genesis 6:1-2} the unnatural mating led to the birth of notorious giants {Genesis 6:4} this giants terrorised the inhabited earth and many people turned to violence {Genesis 6:5} God told Noah to build an Ark for obedient and peace loving humans but only his family listened to him.

God sent heavy rain for 40 days and 40 nights so that all living things on dry land were wiped off except those inside the Ark with Noah.

The angels dropped off their materialized bodies and returned to heaven the spirit realms but God didn't allow them to join His loyal spirit sons again and they were disengaged awaiting judgement.

Abeg what is difficult to grasp in this?

Humans died according to God's word that sinners will pay with their lives {Genesis 2:17} and that has cleared their sins since they have paid with their human lives {Romans 6:7} but angels who can't die naturally are reserved for the day of judgement. 1Peter 3:18-20; 2Peter 2:4; Jude 1:6

They are the spirits that the death of Jesus has a deep meaning for because he was one of the spirit sons of God and they don't know that it's possible for them to die like humans since they are like God in nature! Psalms 82:6-7

GothamCities:
Yeah, rightly translated hell. It was a figurative expression to let us know the harrowing experience he went through in the belly of the fish.

He wasn't in a literal hell or grave since he was not dead at the time. Or you want to tell us that living people go to hell?

This Jonah verse here further proves that the word Sheol should be understood according to context.

Mr Cruise!

Explore2xmore:
I wonder how you resorted to this.

The pleasure of Allah represents the ultimate aspiration for His creations. The essence of religion lies in obeying Allah and striving for His pleasure. This emphasizes that seeking Allah's pleasure is both the core principle and the ultimate aim of faith.

Please i will love short and straightforward answers because that's what no Muslim has ever given me back in Islam instead they often turn to stories which can't blur my sense when i'm inquisitive about something.
So answer these questions without delay!


[1] Did Muhammad seek Allah's pleasure?

[2] What assurance did Allah give Muhammad?

essentialone:
Ok thanks for sharing your own personal opinion on this. The beauty of knowledge is that it is like a big elephant with several blind persons touching different parts of it, and each describing how the elephant is, based on the part of the elephant that they experienced. None was totally correct and none was totally wrong. Once again thanks.

The truth about Jesus is knowledge that makes it's bearers TEACHERS {Matthew 28:20} unlike Judaism where the knowledge of their God fits your illustration of several blind men {Matthew 7:28-28} a disciple of Christ lacks nothing when it comes to the knowledge of God {Psalms 23:1} that's why Jesus could confidently say they are the light of the world {Matthew 5:14-16} they are not blind because they have Jesus they can't walk like blind men.

And with the ultimate truth taught by Jesus they all have the same line of thought {John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3} that's what makes the bond they have so strong that onlookers often say about them:
"They have LOVE among themselves" John 13:34-35

Once again you're welcome!

essentialone:
Thanks

You're welcome.

Christians and disciples of Christ means the same thing!

Righthussle:
I know that if truly there exist a being that made the universe, he/she/it will never have any need for money.

RELIGION requires MONEY so when God asked people to GATHER for WORSHIP MONEY will be needed to make things work well.

MONEY is needed to build a place where they will gather for worship, MONEY is needed to maintain the place, MONEY is needed to support the less privileged among them, MONEY is needed to host guests.

So GOD asked His worshipers to contribute MONEY for these necessary things but then no single individual should be in charge of donated funds it should be stored in a place where they will use it wisely to make things work well.

EmperorCaesar:
Atheists and logic no fit dey together
JW's dont even ask for offerings, and they're also Christians
Wetin concern God for this matter
So obsessed about the same entity you claim doesnt exist

Before i met the Jehovah's Witnesses i heard from a white man saying that's the richest organization in the world in terms of assets but he adds: everything belongs to the group as a whole no human can withdraw money from their account because they have budgets which they stick to religiously and nothing can change it.
So Jehovah's Witnesses also contribute MONEY but it's hard knowing when they do because it's unannounced at their meetings only members know how the contributions are made you can attend their meetings for years without knowing how they are making contributions if you don't ask them.

Michael547:
You clearly said that a Christian may necessarily not be a disciple of Christ. So i have asked you what can make a Christian not to be necessarily a disciple of Christ. Explain.

It's not everyone that stands to be corrected so my advice, let sleeping dog lie in peace!

ANOINTING pass anointing nah!

Kayberg:
Simple question that you're afraid to answer, all because you wanted to hide the truth about your religion. What is the NAME OF THE FOUNDER OF JW? you keep dodging the question because you are afraid to confirm that Charles Taze Russell is the owner of JW.
Na wa for you o!

Followers of Charles Charles; abi na Charlie boy.

Fan of Church founder.
What do you think makes a person founder?

What founders of religion established can't be changed that's what it means to be the founder of something.
Russell celebrated his birthday, Christmas, never preached from house to house and don't even know anything about the name Jehovah's Witnesses.

So how can he be the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses organization?

It's like saying John the baptist is the founder of Christianity because he started the group baptizing people, gathering disciples and Jesus himself went to John to be baptized.

Pictures of founders of each religion will be found in their worship centers and homes of adherents!

GothamCities:
The ones I've brought out what did you do with them? Why are you afraid to bring it out yourself?

Peter never said Jesus went to Hell to preach to DEAD souls!

GothamCities:
I have told you that the word is translated according to the context. Was Jonah dead? How then could he be in the grave? Think, my friend!

Jonah is in his GRAVE because that is a place of inactivity which could have been his real grave if not for God's intervention.
That's why the Bible says there is no activity in SHEOL (Hebrew) HADES (Greek) HELL (English) where DEAD people goes! Ecclesiastes 9:10

GothamCities:
You've been thoroughly exposed as false Christians!

You are a true (CHRISTIANS) jàre!

Michael547:
I tire oo....he claims they are there....he has refused to show us a verse that says so.

He thinks it's by talking like a parrot that makes one a believer!

Michael547:
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Which one is belly of hell again? Is the belly of hell not in hell? You funny oo. Do you agree that sheol means grave and hell according to your beloved king James version? Yes or no?

Yawa don gas!

Michael547:
Oga bring it out....Na you dey teach us.....show us where 'Hell' or 'Hades' appears in 1 Peter 3:18-20. I have not found it. You claim it is there. So bring it out.

He is now worried with all the evidences against him!

Are the spirits Jesus preached to in hell?

GothamCities:
That best describes you.
When did we start talking about 2 Peter 2:4?
You're confused.

Ọmọ your gymnastics is over!

GothamCities:
Are we talking about 2Peter 2:4?

You don't have shame!

GothamCities:
Sheol means realm of the dead. It is often translated according to context.
In Ecclesiastes, it means grave.

Wahala dey for OKOKO!

GothamCities:
So, the grave is the realm of the dead according to you? Which grave exactly did Jonah find himself in that your fake NWT Bible translated it grave? Where was the grave located?

Ọmọ KJV called the belle of the fish "HELL"

"I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice." KJV

Oya do you agree with KJV that the belle of a whale is HELL?

GothamCities:
I have shown you that several times quoting and explaining the verse. If you think otherwise, quote the verse and disprove me as I've done!.
I have told you this several times. If you're sure of yourself, do the right thing.

You're seeing the truth staring at you but your heart can't bear it!

GothamCities:
Who told you this lie?

Tell me where you saw Jonah in a grave.

It's very difficult to bring you guys to see truth because it will be necessary to overhaul a whole lot of jargons and demonic doctrines from.yiue foundation before one will be able to plant truth in you.

Jonah 2:2

“Out of my distress I called out to Jehovah, and he answered me. Out of the depths of the Grave I cried for help. You heard my voice." NWT

“In my distress I called to the Lord, and he answered me. From deep in the realm of the dead I called for help, and you listened to my cry." NIV

"I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice.‬" KJV


You're really amusing abeg!

GothamCities:
Peter said it was the spirits of those who perished by water that were imprisoned.

You can run but you can't hide!

Where did Peter say it was the spirit of those who perished by water that were imprisoned?

GothamCities:
In the grave okay. Not in hell.

Hell and Grave means the same thing! Jonah 2:2

GothamCities:
Heresies that take the Bible literally you mean? Or the heresy that inserted Tartarus and fallen angels where they're not?

God said the dead knows and feels nothing {Ecclesiastes 9:5-10} you can start from there!

GothamCities:
I don't even know who told you that fallen angels perished by water. What nonesense!

And who told you fallen angels perish by water?

Ọmọ people who lived in Noah's days perished by water but fallen angels did not that's why God imprisoned them in the spirit realms.

GothamCities:
I think it's not healthy to be responding to you and be hearing very nauseating lines of thinking. Why don't you sit down and study that book of Peter very well and make your research instead of spewing thrash all over the place?

Guy don't worry jàre after all your folks gave you their likes it's people like me and my brothers that aren't moved with heresies that you're all carrying in your head.

I have always told many novice on this forum that the real atheists are out there cashing out as PASTORS!

Michael547:
So when Christ descended to the lower regions of the earth, it means he died. So where did his spirit go to? Where does the Bible say that Christ spirit went to hades to preach to spirits of dead people who were in hades?

Because he got likes from churchgoers he feels he's informed.

At least he now know that there are many things hidden from him!

GothamCities:
You're confused.
And I'm sorry, I don't have the time to teach you.
Jesus can't preach to angels. He didn't come to save them!
That's a very demonic doctrine!

He came to preach to the living not the dead!

essentialone:
My brother or sister, every opinion is personal.
None is right or wrong, just a different wavelength of understanding.

It's OK!

GothamCities:
I said you should post the reference and underline where it says so! I reject your assertion, so prove Mr wrong!

It's not assertion rather it's what you yourself brought but you can repost it again perhaps it's not clear to you!