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DaddyCoool:
My man, here's what you wrote again

"I don't see deities that failed to maintain peace among their worshipers as real so my use of lower case is deliberate to shows that such deities are useless, helpless and hopeless."

If we apply your logic then that can't apply to worshipers of ANY deity - because the moment there is conflict one side would no longer be the deity's worshipers!

The highlighted is exactly what the God of Israel stands for that's why He always destroy those who oppose His orders.
When some opposed Moses Jehovah said:

Why, then, did you not fear to speak against my servant, against Moses?” Numbers 12:8

So Jehovah is a God of order He will never ever tolerate division in His camp that's why Jesus told the Samaritan woman at Jacob's well:

"Salvation is of the Jews" {John 4:22} by the time the Kingdom split into two Jehovah is no longer with both side that's what Jesus taught us but if you're opposed to it i know it's due to POLITICS which you are interested in as politicians don't see opposition as anything evil you can switch to any side even though they are killing themselves!

triplechoice:
Not what you think Buda
Please try to watch the video of Adeboye saying what he said about tithes
The man hasn't asked his members to stop paying tithes or did he discourage it in any way.
He now wants them to pay more because according to him the 10% is for beginners.

Is he still saying none tithers won't go to heaven?

Thanks to Daddy Freeze and Abel Damina.

DaddyCoool:
Either you have totally lost it or you're lying as usual. I NEVER SAID ROME WROTE NT!! I said you might as well believe that like other conspiracy kooks SINCE you believe that Rome invented Islam!!

Below is what you typed when i never said Rome founded Islam

DaddyCoool:
See TOTAL brainwashing. You forgot to say that Rome wrote the NT, and altered the OT to align with it!

So say exactly what i typed not manipulating it just to make yourself feel happy!

DaddyCoool:
All this copious writing is to LIE there was never conflict amongst God's chosen people, when in fact there was constant conflict. Absalom and his followers didn't stop being Jews just because he fought his father. Neither did Solomon stop being Jewish because he killed his brothers, nor did those who avenged their sister's rape, etc.

Absalom stopped being an Israelite the very moment he began plotting against a king that Jehovah Himself anointed through the hands of prophet Samuel.
Solomon as king ordered the execution of those who aren't ready to support the king God chose for Israel.
Those who avenged their sisters rape were reproved by their father meaning what they did is totally wrong. For your information Judah became the heir to firstborn promise due to that event because his first three brothers lost that privilege: Reuben slept with his father's concubine, Simon and Levi killed a whole city because Shechem raped their sister that's why the promise was shifted to Judah the fourth born son of Jacob.

DaddyCoool:
Likewise, Israel didn't stop being Jews because they went to war with Judah. Neither did they stop being Jews after they were sacked by Assyria. Neither did Judah stop being Jews after they were sacked by Babylon. THE ONES WHO INTERMARRIED WITH GENTILES STOPPED BEING JEWS!! Get that into your head! Both Israel and Judah were Jews except those who intermarried with gentiles!

After the Kingdom divided God is no longer with Israel because they built another temple in Gerizim in opposition to the temple in Jerusalem. Judah was later captured by Babylon after they turned to idolatry and refused to heed the warning from prophets of God. So try to calm down Judah became the land of the Jews while the northern ten tribes became the land of Samaria.

DaddyCoool:
I have a question 4 ya: was Christ harmless as a dove when He was flogging and chasing those selling and changing money in the temple?

If you challenge what is wrong in the house of your father does that makes you a violent person? So YES Jesus remain harmless as doves throughout his life and ministry.

DaddyCoool:
Now back to your statement that started your LIE that there was never conflict amongst Israelites.
Here it is again:
"I don't see deities that failed to maintain peace among their worshipers as real so my use of lower case is deliberate to shows that such deities are useless, helpless and hopeless."

When did Jehovah support two opposite sides waging war against each other?

Righteousness is the act of doing what you are convinced is right, now it could be based on your own mindset that is what the Bible calls SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS.
But when you base it on God's word that is the RIGHTEOUSNESS FROM GOD.

achorladey:
That the increasing lawlessness in your midst exist from the existence of your religious organization +/-150 years ago starting from the founding father Russell

Hmmmmmmmmmm, i can understand! Matthew 24:12

achorladey:
MaxInDHouse cure your hypocrisy and politics you know exist in you and in your midst. I know Jehovah's Witnesses is not a religion in MaxInDHouse lies and manipulations filled brains.

Hmmmmmmmmmm, i can understand! Matthew 24:12

The year 1914!

Wisdom found!

The only reason why Muhammed can't be accepted as a prophet of the same God is lack of supernatural signs to back his work!

The first prophet God sent a prophet to establish a form of worship was Moses so God backed Moses with supernatural power to prove that the man is not a fraud subsequently other prophets were going to meet the same people and making references to what Moses taught them but by the time this God wants to send the last prophet to them He empowered Jesus with the greatest signs.
WHY?
Because Jesus is the last prophet who will establish another covenant with the Israelites and God has sworn in His anger that whoever fails to obey this last prophet despite all the signs will not be counted among His people! Deuteronomy 18:18-19
Apostle Peter confirmed that Jesus of Nazareth is this last prophet! Act 3:22-26
So there is no connection whatsoever between this last prophet sent among the Israelites and the Arabian called Muhammed and to worsen the matter Muhammed never performed a single sign so anyone could lay claims like Sat Guru Maharaji that he is also a prophet sent by the same God, intelligent people will draw out the clear difference as scam!

chatinent:
Nahh, it's the politics and hypocrisy in religion as a whole.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, i can understand! Matthew 24:12

Petalss:
Are you suggesting that politics is a significant factor influencing many ExJWs?

Politics is the significant factor influencing the ex-jws, check what this former JW used to say about his religion and the Bible.

https://www.nairaland.com/4144739/five-things-never-knew-jehovahs

This is one of Jehovah's Witnesses well known on this forum for years but due to his interest in politics see what has become of him today:

chatinent:
Both Mohammed and Jesus were folklores created to capture people's mindsets.

Now check his profile to see what has become the most important thing to him.

The same goes with all Ex-jws on this forum:

achorladey
rottennaija
RussellRutherfo

In fact your friend who has been arguing with fury all along is also interested in POLITICS

His excellency, DaddyCoool is a well-known politician. You'd be shocked who is behind this moniker

So it's impossible for anyone to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses and at the same time be interested in POLITICS!

DaddyCoool:
What do you gain by constantly lying just because of a meaningless argument on a faceless forum??
The Northern Kingdom was called ISRAEL!! It's all over the Bible and popular media. Samaria was not even founded till 50 years after the split. As for Samaritans, get some education below.

The lying is what you choose to do after seeing that you're wrong.
You earlier said Rome wrote the New Testament but later you changed your mind after i've made matters clear.
The ten northern tribes are called SAMARITANS that's why the Samaritan woman at Jacob's well told Jesus:

"You are not greater than our forefather Jacob, who gave us the well and who together with his sons and his cattle drank out of it, are you?” John 4:12

So get it straight Samaritans are the ten northern tribes of Israel that's why they hated Elijah because he kept telling them that they're wrong in opposing the Jews over worship but the Samaritans thought Elijah supposed to be on their side because Elijah himself is from Samaria by birth.

In the ninth year of Ho·sheʹa, the king of As·syrʹi·a captured Sa·marʹi·a. He then led the people of Israel into exile in As·syrʹi·a and made them dwell in Haʹlah and in Haʹbor at the river Goʹzan and in the cities of the Medes. 2Kings 17:6

Believe in God's word those references are from unbelievers who don't know what Bible really teach so they can't understand what really happened.

The same Assyrian King brought his army against the Jews to capture them as he did to the Samaritans who the Bible called Israel but in one night an angel from Jehovah killed 185,000 soldiers in his camp and that was the end of the syrian king and his dynasty. 2Kings 19:35

The Samaritans (Israel) thought they were the ones doing the fighting with their weapons not knowing that it was Jehovah who was fighting his own battle that's why the Assyrias captured them but Hezekiah the King of the Jews prayed to Jehovah and Isaiah told him that there's no need to fear because Jehovah is with the Jews that's why Sennacherib the king of Assyria failed with all his armies he taught it's just the weapons that will help him not knowing that it's about who is on the side of the true God.

So my friend in ancient times God's people go to war against people who thought since it's the same God who created all of us any side can win but they don't know that one with Jehovah is the majority! 2Kings 6:15-17

Today God is speaking to His worshipers through His only begotten Son {Hebrews 1:1-2} God's Son commanded his own disciples to be HARMLESS as DOVE {Matthew 10:16} that's why we no longer fight anymore!

Thread for the wise!

DaddyCoool:
He probably doesn't know.
See below and tell us which side was "Jews" and why the other side was not "Jews"

DaddyCoool:
Before you continue making a fool of yourself as you've been doing, here's some free education 4 ya!

After the Kingdom divided the northern ten tribes were called SAMARITANS while the two southern tribes are called JEWS.
That's why Jesus answered the Samaritan woman at Jacob's well that God has being on the side of the Jews from the very moment the kingdom broke up into two! John 4:20-22

Petalss:
My Jehovah's Witness friends seem to either be without fault or merely putting on a facade, because I have never seen them stand before the congregation of God to admit their mistakes and seek help in overcoming their wrongdoings. It's as if they never acknowledge their errors, or they choose to hide them rather than openly seeking forgiveness and support to avoid repeating them.

If you're not with us you can't know what we are doing in our midst so it's not you they will confess to it's God's congregation!

Petalss:
Are you suggesting that politics is a significant factor influencing many ExJWs?

YES!

Petalss:
Why not actively encourage them to repent for their mistakes instead of waiting for them to take the initiative to change?

They've been taught what to do so there's no need pestering them if they don't want to do what is right.

DaddyCoool:
So when the Kingdom split and they were fighting each other, which side was God's people? What a deceitful LIAR!

You can also call this man a liar:

"You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, because salvation begins with the Jews" John 4:22

That's Jesus' response for you.
So when the nation split to two God is on the side of the Jews!

DaddyCoool:
You have to first STOP LYING before anything else

Don't kill yourself with HBP whatever i say is backed up with the scriptures that's why you can't walk away because you know what i'm saying is TRUE!

Petalss:
The congregation of God, please make me understand better.

We don't view your Allah or the gods of Christendom churches as God so when i say the congregation of God i mean Jehovah's Witnesses globally!

Petalss:
There are many well-known ExJW and they are not politicians

You need to understand that they don't have to declare themselves for us to know it's what matters to them most that exposes them.
So if you see anyone always discussing politics and supporting one politician or party against another he or she has become a politician!

Petalss:
You’ve decided to cut off communication with exJW, yet you continue to pursue relationships with people outside the faith.

If they repent they will be welcomed again as for outsiders there are many who loves pure worship but don't know how to identify it they are our priority not just crowd! Matthew 10:6

DaddyCoool:
I think you've become confused. They waged war amongst themselves with weapons! Have you forgotten what you wrote? Here it is again:

I don't see deities that failed to maintain peace among their worshipers as real so my use of lower case is deliberate to shows that such deities are useless, helpless and hopeless.

You failed to realize one thing:

There is a difference between Israelites and worshipers of the true God.

All the descendants of Jacob are Israelites but worshipers of the true God are only those trusting in what His prophets say.

So if some Israelites turn against what God's prophet says such ones are no longer God's people.
The people who perish with Korah in the wilderness were all Israelites yet Moses called down evil upon them.
The 450 prophets of Baal that Elijah slaughtered were all Israelites.

So get things straight you need to know the difference not just concluding that God supports His worshipers killing themselves!

DaddyCoool:
Exterminated by sword and division and strife?
Educate us

DaddyCoool:
Sooo, what will they do when Nasrallah comes for them? Hypocritically depend on others to protect them? Please educate us

This is your first post on this thread so think over what Jesus said and stop this unbelief God's Kingdom is at hand, Jesus will destroy all those who failed to TRUST (BELIEVE) in him! John 3:16

DaddyCoool:
Exterminated by sword and division and strife?
Educate us

Jesus with his angels to EXTERMINATE enemies of PEACE {Revelations 1:16} so at his order all enemies of peace will perish!

DaddyCoool:
He's still at it instead of just being HONEST!
Is Nineveh a quality of God??
One of the qualities or characteristics attributed to Jehovah is that He is a Man of war!

WAR against enemies of pure worship!

Petalss:
I still don't understand oo. Who do the wrong doings tell "I'm sorry, please help me not to repeat it".

The congregation of God!

Petalss:
How many Ex JW politicians do we have now?

Check the profile of any ExJW you will see what is in their minds, they are no longer for God's Kingdom rather they are yearning for human government so they can't be 100% on both sides! Matthew 6:24

Petalss:
So no more communication with the Disfellowshipped members?

YES! 1Corinthians 5:11-13; 2John 10-11

DaddyCoool:
Meaning what?
My friend, they waged countless wars, with weapons! Sometimes against themselves!

Ọmọ you kept going back and forth but i'm used to people like you.

They must not wage any war unless the order comes from their God so they can't go to war against His worshipers expecting His backing.

That's what you keep dodging!

DaddyCoool:
So outside His own subjects He is Prince of war and division? Chai!
Same war and strife you said He was titally against up to loving your enemies!

YES!
As the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} he has sent his subjects to declared what he will not tolerate in his kingdom so whoever disregard the message of peace must be exterminated! Luke 19:27

DaddyCoool:
He totally misses the point.
Point is, you said JW are reflecting His qualities, and one of those qualities is "Man of war". You first said it was spiritual, then your said unchanging God changed.
Why not simply tell the TRUTH as is written in the Bible!

You're free to say whatever you like but one thing i told you is that God's qualities doesn't change it's His mode of operations that changes due to circumstances.
He wanted to destroy Nineveh but changed His mind due to a reason but had it been they never repented you know what that means.
So His predominant quality is LOVE {1John 4:8} as for WAR that's only against enemies of pure worship!

DaddyCoool:
So if they had no weapons the enemy won't know that their God has come to destroy the enemies?
What you are doing is called Willful Lying!

Ọmọ it's lack of wisdom that's disturbing you.

When you see strangers with weapons in their hands standing and facing you what should you do?
Well it means you should surrender or declare peace so that they drop their weapons.

When the Israelites came up against Jericho Rahab discovered they're coming to take over the land so she declared her support for God's will herself and her family were spared. Joshua 2:1-14

So by the time Israelites stood against Jericho with WEAPONS Rahab knew she's safe with all her families in the same city while all other inhabitants of Jericho will perish.

So the weapons in their hands is enough signal telling any wise individual that day that the same God who destroyed Pharaoh and all his armies in the red sea has come to destroy Jericho except whoever SURRENDERS will be spared!

DaddyCoool:
Get what? Did I tell you "wise as serpents" means "wage war"? Here's the meat of what I wrote. Addressed it:

Prince of Peace said verbatim he did not come to bring peace but a sword and have people turn against each other. So where's the peace in that? Good thing it never happened. If Muhammad had said that it would have made sense

Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} PEACE among his own subjects! John 14:26-27

DaddyCoool:
They WAGED WAR! Is the point. With weapons!

NO!
The point is standing up for divine judgement against enemies of pure worship!

Petalss:
Globally as in
JW like all humans, are imperfect and can make mistakes or commit wrongs. However, what type of misconduct or transgression would be severe enough to disqualify a Jehovah's Witness and warrant such public reproval and announcement.

Whoever goes against scriptural standard deliberately will be given the chance to say:
"i'm sorry, please help me not to repeat it"
But whoever wants to justify wrongdoing will be DISFELLOWSHIPED GLOBALLY meaning there is no place on earth where he could be acknowledged as a JW again and nobody will greet him among JWs throughout the earth!

Petalss:
Who, in their right mind, would feel threatened in the presence of a community that values peace and non-violence?

Politicians!
They know it's impossible to gain dominance over their fellow worshipers but that's what they want so they will continue feeling bad yet they can't walk away.

Petalss:
Maybe they are scared of something

The wicked flee when no one pursues them, But the righteous are as confident as a lion. Proverbs 28:1

And a highway will be there, Yes, a way called the Way of Holiness. The unclean one will not travel on it. It is reserved for the one walking on the way; No one foolish will stray onto it. Isaiah 35:8

So no unclean can remain PHYSICALLY and MENTALLY on the way of holiness!

DaddyCoool:
Doesn't matter who He was fighting for or against, one of His qualities is "Man of war"

Sorry o!
He is not a blind fighter who kills without sense! Genesis 18:25