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Petalss:
Yes, one of Jesus' disciples used a weapon in a specific incident. According to the Gospels, Peter, one of Jesus’ closest disciples, used a sword during the arrest of Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane. When the soldiers came to arrest Jesus, Peter drew his sword and cut off the ear of Malchus, the servant of the high priest (John 18:10). However, Jesus immediately told Peter to put away the sword, saying, "Put your sword back in its place, for all who draw the sword will die by the sword" (Matthew 26:52). Jesus then healed the servant's ear, showing His commitment to peace.

So did Jesus commend him for using physical sword against enemies?

DaddyCoool:
What's your problem?? Same way you kept saying Islam was dying! You've just been shown several instances Christ said things that didn't necessarily follow. You don't run to Paul so you can LIE he didn't say them. Did Paul previously send anyone out without swords? Didn't Paul make it clear he was using names of weapons metaphorically?? Na wa!

As long as you can't quote anywhere Jesus or his disciples use physical swords against anyone there is no further case jàre!

FxMasterz:
The churches preach the unconditional love of Christ.

Yet members follow racists and politicians to kill one another during conflicts and wars what a fine example? Revelations 6:3-4

FxMasterz:
You're part of the denominations with a different opinion.

NO!
Because we only pray and worship with our own members showing you all that we are no part of you people! John 17:14

DaddyCoool:
My friend, you are LYING when you say someone said something he didn’t say!

Christ told his disciples: "I previously sent you out and told you to take no weapons, now I'm telling you to obtain swords even if you have to sell your garments to get them." Well, they managed to obtain only two swords. He didn't say (as He always corrected them) "oh you spiritually slow, I never meant physical swords!"

Instead of reading the chapter in context and being HONEST about what He said IN THE CHAPTER, you go to all sorts of extrapolations just so you can LIE that He didn't say what HE said!

The context is clear whenever the disciples quote a verse in the Bible the Jews and others who are proselytes can relate easily but when it comes to people of other nations his disciples need to go about with the scriptures so they can preach effectively to people who knew nothing about the scriptures.
So it boils down to the same point of spiritual sword.
Read what Paul said at Ephesians 6:11-18
He mentioned lots of weapons but was he talking about physical weapons?
NO!
So if Jesus meant physical swords at least there should be one occasion where his disciples will make use of it but instead they were killed with the sword and contrary to your opinion that two swords is ok for eleven to fight they never fought once in the Bible!

Petalss:
This is still your opinion, not a fact

If you say so my friend if you say so!

AntiChristian:
Does baal worship share the same names Islam shares with Christianity?
Abeg quit kidding!

Guy in the Bible Baal worship claims that Moses is a worshiper of their God that's why Elijah asked the worshipers of Baal to call down fire just as Moses did in the wilderness.

So calm down and learn!

FxMasterz:
The same line of thought as the Scriptures.

The same line of thought that they must never ever raise weapons against anyone be it friend or foe just as their Master taught them.
So if any religion can't hold on to this such a religion doesn't have the same line of thought with Paul and other Apostles!

FxMasterz:
I disagree.
You must be mistaken.
My God approves only services done through the help of His Holy Ghost whom He has given unto those who are His.

As long as all of you claim you believe in God ọmọ it's DENOMINATIONS with different opinions joh!

Petalss:
In the same manner that you pointed out the differences among the previously mentioned religions, you made your stance clear, just as others have expressed theirs. Whatever claims you all make does not change the fact that they all have something in common (my claim).
However, I find it surprising that you're now acknowledging a single similarity between them, when earlier, you stated that they had no commonalities whatsoever.

Good!
So there is one similarity all are making claims but as for Jehovah's Witnesses standing out differently i pointed out a single similarity that carries all other religions which leaves Jehovah's Witnesses out completely!

AntiChristian:
I know you won't be able to explain and then you'll turn everything upside down!
That's your way!
Just because you hate Islam doesn't erase the fact that there are similarities in Islam and Christianity!
There may not be much between Jehovah witness and Islam!
But Christians (Nazarenes) was mentioned many times in the Qur'an!

Ọmọ Baal worship and many others were also mentioned in the Bible that doesn't mean there are similarities between Christianity and those religions nah!

DaddyCoool:
You want me to LIE like you.

As a Christian we don't put it forward to others that they're lying but since you've repeatedly accused me of lying let's see who is lying here!

I said Christians must not lift up weapons against anyone but you claiming you're also a Christian said it's not so.
I quoted verses from the scriptures where Jesus himself told his disciples never to raise weapons against anyone be it friend or foe.
Then you got confused and quoted Luke 22:36 i told you he wasn't talking about physical swords and supported what i said with scriptures whether his disciples talked about spiritual sword.
You still insisted Jesus meant physical swords then i asked you why Jesus said two swords is enough for eleven men if each of them should possess a physical sword. You said the two will be enough but in his statement he never said two out ten should have swords rather he said each of them must possess one at all cost.

So who is the liar here?
Is it me who kept telling you neither Jesus nor his first century Jewish disciples made use of physical swords or you who is just arguing blindly when facts are staring right at you?

DaddyCoool:
I'm sure you know what "self-explanatory" means. There's nothing to explain

There is no self explanation here if you don't know just say you don't know!

AntiChristian:
Is that Jesus?
What is Mary's name in Ifa?
Was there a crucifixion story?
Tell us how Ela is Jesus?

My friend because you limit yourself to just a religion or two doesn't mean there are not religious groups around you claiming they are of the same God.
So if you think there is similarities between my religion and yours simply because your religion has names for prophets in my religion then you should also welcome other religions as similar to yours for claiming they are of the same God!

DaddyCoool:
My friend it is NOT your business to determine whether he was in his right senses or not. It is your business not to LIE and say he didn't say what he said.
Example, statement below is self-explanatory but people try to lie about it:

"There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. People will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.
Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened".

But as his disciples can you explain what he meant there?

AntiChristian:
What does Ifa worshippers call Jesus?

Ẹ̀là àkọ́bí Olódùmarè!

FxMasterz:
Very unnecessary talk. You do not realize that you and your groups are one of those agents of decision.

Do you agree with Paul who said all his fellow believers must have the same line of thought as he does?

FxMasterz:
This scripture reiterates the fact that God deals with people individually and not as a group.

Do you agree that sacred services rendered by members of different religions like Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, Traditionalists, Judaists and many more are all approved by your god?

Petalss:
In summary, Christianity, Islam, Catholicism, Orthodoxy, and Pentecostalism represent distinct religious traditions and belief systems. While various Christian denominations, such as Catholicism, Orthodoxy, and Pentecostalism, identify themselves as branches of Christian faith, they exhibit differences in doctrine, practices, and interpretations of biblical teachings. Having it in mind that you Jehovah's Witnesses hold the belief that you alone represent the true followers of Christianity. So therefore, all others are totally different religions.

People can claim whatever they want but when intellectuals look critically at what they represent they will see clearly.
The only similarity i can think of in all your religions is that your god preaches PEACE but at the same time supports WAR!

AntiChristian:
Similarity is having a resemblance in appearance, character, or quantity, without being identical.

Mentioning names doesn't mean similarities Ifá worshipers also have what they do call Jesus and other prophets does that translate to SIMILARITIES between your religion and ifá worshipers?
Moreover the way we pronounce the names totally differs from the way you people do you only claim that's how your own religion calls them so do you accept ifá worshipers as your fellow worshipers or similar to yours for calling names and relating with the prophets in your book?

FxMasterz:
So, you know it has chapter and verse? That means you know the Words are from the Bible. But I trust you, you'll ignore, deny and turn your face against the word of God to uphold the lies you have been taught.
The Scripture is 2 Timothy 2:19.
"Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity."

Despite that, the solid foundation of God remains standing, having this seal, “Jehovah knows those who belong to him,” and, “Let everyone calling on the name of Jehovah renounce unrighteousness.” 2Timothy 2:19

Here Paul is talking to Timothy he is not in support of different sects with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all claiming they're worshipers of the same God here is what Paul said about contradictions in your religions:

Now I urge you, brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you should all speak in agreement and that there should be no divisions among you, but that you may be completely united in the same mind and in the same line of thought. 1Corinthians 1:10

Now may the God who supplies endurance and comfort grant you to have among yourselves the same mental attitude that Christ Jesus had, so that unitedly you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. Romans 15:5-6

earnestly endeavoring to maintain the oneness of the spirit in the uniting bond of peace. Ephesians 4:3

make my joy full by being of the same mind and having the same love, being completely united, having the one thought in mind. Philippians 2:2

So Paul wasn't referring to different religions claiming they're Christians rather he sent the letter to his brother Timothy to remember that within the congregation of God the Almighty knows those who are rightly disposed!

FxMasterz:
"Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity."

Why do you quote words but can't put the book, chapter and verse?

Nah so them teach you for your own church?

Petalss:
Thank you very much for your clear and direct responses.
This essentially means that anyone who draws similarities between these religions is simply mistaken. You mean to say the comparisons are purely subjective and reflect personal opinions, regardless of who is making the claim, whether it is a scholar, theologian, or layperson. Is that not so?

Guy people can draw similarities between two different religions based on their own dubious motives but once two religions are always against themselves it means they have nothing doing together.

FxMasterz:
True worshippers are not specific groups.

So many people are presently worshiping your god in different religions yet they are contradicting themselves in teachings and conflictings, shey?

That your god must be a confusionist o!

DaddyCoool:
Christ said many things that didn't necessarily follow.

So you believe he not in his right senses when saying those things! Mark 3:21

Prince500:
Then I will be playing your game

The truth remains that Yahweh never claimed to be omnipotent!

Prince500:
that is a pervasion of love

Where exactly do you think Yahweh got things wrong so that we can say He is a murderer because He Himself gave us a commandment not to kill {Exodus 20:13} so where did He go wrong?

Petalss:
No Sir.
But please answer my question.

NO is the answer!

Petalss:
Excellent.
Is there any similarity between Pentecostalism and Christianity?

Is there a similarity between Islam and Ṣàngó worship?

Petalss:
Good.
Is there any similarities between Catholicism and Christianity?

NO!

Prince500:
The usual you were never a Christian line 😂. The Bible is the worst reference book in the world because each time u use it in supporting your arguments it comes back to you. For someone omnipotent Yahweh sure does funny action. Indoctrination has blinded your humanity. See your cooked up story to exempt the shameful act of yahweh from his own hypocritical son.

Can you quote the highlighted in any version of the Bible?

Well you haven't answered the question:

What made you conclude that Yahweh loves killing people?

Prince500:
read your old testament and summarize Yahweh with one word

LOVE!

Petalss:
Is there any resemblance between Judaism and Christianity?

NO!

Most people just conclude on many things that they should have investigated thoroughly. 1Thessalonians 5:21

The Israelites lost their homeland thousands of years ago and the present settlers in Israel aren't real descendants of Jacob rather they are proselytes who chooses to be called by the name ISRAELITES because they have heard that Yahweh proved to be the Almighty God.

The Israelites proved to be faithless when God finally sent the long awaited Messiah (Christ) to them by killing him and persecuting his disciples so God allowed a pagan nation (Rome) to sweep them away from the land He gave their forefathers. Deuteronomy 9:13-14

Yahweh was never a killer God but He has been misunderstood by lots of people due to the attitude of Israelites that's why Jesus who claims to be His only begotten Son taught his listeners to pray for God's name to be SANCTIFIED {Matthew 6:10} Yahweh's name must be sanctified throughout the earth and the reproach against His holy name must be removed by who?
YES! By Jesus' disciples whom he sent out as peacemakers {Matthew 5:9} they are to prove by their thoughts, words and actions that Jehovah is the God of love {Matthew 5:43-48} this is why Judaists in the first century hated Jesus and his disciples with passion and wanted to get rid of them! John 11:48, 53; Act 4:12; 28

So my dear friend i know you must have been to churches of Christendom worshiping with them but let me make it clear to you that you were never a CHRISTIAN!

RoiNews2:
There are similarities and then differences too!

First of all what did you know about the faith called CHRISTIANITY?