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Kingsempires:
oga maxindhouse look at those screen shot very well Tertullian was born 160 and died 240 AD was Christianity legal in Roman empire that time?

Guy the real Christians in Rome were killed by the time Roman emperors were seeking power to gain dominance over other territories and the Christians were preaching and teaching against WARS.

So after the death of Apostle John real Christians became like accused in all places due to the friendship between the AntiChrist and political Rome!

Kingsempires:
Then why did the early church fathers believe the trinity doctrine?

Those are the AntiChrists they conspired with Roman politicians to kill those who are loyal to the teachings of the Apostles.
The TRINITY teaching is paganism and since those people wants to increase their members but don't want to preach from house to house they welcome any custom or tradition as long as those practicing such things will join them.
That's how they came about so many pagan festivals like Christmas, Easter, New Year and others!

Jesus was enthroned in the year 1914!

Tetraozonaitera:
I still read Awake till date. I started reading awake as a teenager. My best friend is a witness. We were childhood friends and we are both family men today. He is an elder in your congregation.

With this i'm OK, i just want you to know that i was not born a member it's what Jesus said about his disciples that drew me closer to Jehovah's Witnesses because out of all the religions claiming Christians only the Jehovah's Witnesses meet up.

Tetraozonaitera:
WATCHTOWER TEACHING ARE JOKERS.

So whenever you want to talk anywhere always remember that you are still reading the AWAKE magazine (published by the WATCHTOWER) your best friend is trained by the WATCHTOWER and you're also a family friend of Jehovah's Witnesses who are students of the same WATCHTOWER.

Tetraozonaitera:
This is one of the areas you guys get it wrong. Thinking you are the only religion accepted by God is delusion.
WATCHTOWER is the only one fulfilling what the prophecy says. How?
Because you walk about preaching?
"Go Ye into the World?"
That is the way you have chosen to carry out the instruction. Others have their ways of doing that.

About the highlighted there are many religions out there PREACHING the word and claiming they are for God or Jesus but which group is following the way Jesus commanded his disciples to do it?
Another thing you tried to dodge is the certain result that must follow if any religion is getting things right:
They will become WITNESSES of the fact that the Prince of Peace walked the earth {Act 1:8} because they must achieve PEACE among themselves first {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} if others will see the light permeating their gathering! Matthew 5:14-16

Ọmọ the one and only organization of people achieving all of these by preaching from house to house and door to door is Jehovah's Witnesses and ironically Jesus said his disciples will be hated by all people and YES you people get really annoyed at the mention of "Jehovah's Witnesses" John 15:17-19

You can continue deceiving yourself i have found the light Jesus promised among his own disciples as it's so glaring that he was talking about JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.

If you wish to refute this just present another religion among the thousands of different sects with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all claiming they're Christians that has been able to meet up with at least 10% of all the things Jehovah's Witnesses have achieved in less than 200 years!

May you have PEACE!

1914

Jesus commanded his disciples to have love among themselves {John 13:34-35} because he knew that during the endtime there will be lot of confusion regarding accuracy in doctrines but no matter what happens LOVE will unite faithful people because God is LOVE {1John 4:8} and He dwells among His faithful WORSHIPERS! Revelations 21:3

CJStarz:
Which bodi go tell you?
Stop portraying God as a Sadist.

If not for the terrifying stories about Hellfire or the false promises about how God will multiply their material possessions do you think people can selflessly stand up to preach in the streets or buses?

The real preaching is based on LOVE for God's name people {Mark 12:29-31} it's love that is moving real Christians to go knocking on doors of strangers uninvited because they want them to have everlasting life.

But as for those making noise in streets and buses try to listen carefully to what they have to say it's all about the scary Hellfire and nothing more!

paxonel:
Sure!
I have found such group.
You mean the one that shred cases in a bid to protect criminal offence against minors in the congregation?
Now, that is real love among you, keep it up 👍

You are really funny!

So if you are called to speak for Christianity what Peter, Thomas, Judas and the Christian brother who was sleeping with his father's wife in Corinth did is enough reason to rubbish everything Jesus taught?

Come on, all those are propaganda set up by Satan to blur your senses from understanding what Jesus said about his real disciples.

If you want to be sincere with yourself why not think of how many of such cases you've seen in your own territory?
Or you think what you read on the Internet is enough to rubbish what you're seeing in your own territory?

Well it's just in two ways, you either trash whatever Jesus has to say about his disciples or you present a group that's practicing what he taught.

Judging a global family of peace loving worshipers simply because of rumors you can't even verify is enough to tell the type of person you are on the inside! 1Thessalonians 5:21

paxonel:
Let your life so shine before men...

This statement implies that Jesus' disciples can only be noticed by the way they conduct themselves as a group not individually!

Remember that if you read through the gospel accounts and try to picture yourself in the first century when:

• Peter denied knowing Jesus.
• Thomas disbelieve what Jesus said.
• Judas Iscariot sold Jesus for cash.
• All Jesus' closest confidants deserted him.

You can't think of becoming a member of that group.

So how will their light shine? Matthew 5:14-16

Well Jesus said:

I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, you also love one another. By this all will know that you are my disciples—if you have love among yourselves. John 13:34-35

From the above statement it's evident that the disciples of Jesus will also have flaws in their individual life but as a GROUP something unique will make them different from all other religionists around them: LOVE will permeate their assembly!

When others are fighting and killing their fellow worshipers due to political or racial prejudice {Revelations 6:3-4} Jesus' disciples will quench whatever could lead to such right within their midst {Isaiah 2:4} because the love they have for their fellow believers will cover a multitude offenses! 1Corinthians 13:4-8 compare to 1Peter 4:8

Have you found such a group in our world today?

Tetraozonaitera:
WATCHTOWER TEACHING ARE JOKERS.

The Bible from Genesis to Revelations has only one theme:
God's Kingdom Message! Matthew 3:2; 4:17

The rest is about how life started, how rebellion led to the situation we found ourselves today, what God promised to resolve the big issue and [b]what we will notice to know how we can participate in the sanctification of God's Holy Name that was defamed from the beginning.

So any religion that failed to help it's adherents join in sanctifying God's name and upholding His sovereignty has been thoroughly misled by Satan.

We can argue and argue in support of what our religion taught us but then we don't have to keep on deceiving ourselves when the religion we practice failed to meet up with God's will.

God foretold:

And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more. Isaiah 2:2-4

There are hundreds of thousands of religions in our world but only the WATCHTOWER is fulfilling what this prophecy says today!

Jesus of Nazareth said:

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Matthew 7:21-23

God's will has always remain the same from the beginning until now it's about filling the planet with humans and making them one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers {Genesis 1:28} so if any religion failed to unite people of all races yet claiming they have the knowledge of God ọmọ it's a lie!

Kingsempires:
AntiChrist

NO!
The first century Christians never agreed that Jesus is their God because he told them:


“Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’” John 20:17

There are THREE main points in the highlighted:
All those practicing what Jesus taught them are his fellow believers so he called them his BROTHERS in faith but God has never called anyone His brother! Matthew 12:46-50

All those practicing what Jesus taught are like wordhipers of his God.

All those practicing what Jesus taught are like children of the same father.

That's why his disciples could say:

“You are the Christ, the Son of the living God." Matthew 16:16

So there is no verse that says people who don't believe that Jesus is God are AntiChrist rather what the scriptures say about the AntiChrist:

Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son. 1John 2:22

So the AntiChrist is someone who denies that Jesus is not the Christ!

Kvarachi:
How is the world going to end?

The world that's going to an end according to God's word is not our planet earth because God promised never to strike the planet again! Genesis 8:21-22 compare to Psalms 78:69; 104:5; 119:90; Ecclesiastes 1:4

But all evildoers making life unbearable for nice people! Psalms 37:9-11; Proverbs 2:20-22

Taiwojon:
Stop saying rubbish!
You anti Christ
The commandments of Jesus is to go everywhere and preach the gospel.
Your tribal linkage hold no ground!

Talk is cheap but one thing is sure the Christ is not just a prophet that's why he doesn't make noise in the streets {Matthew 12:19} when he commissioned Christianity with preaching and teaching from house to house he knows that from that moment the Good News of God's kingdom must be preached in lands where people don't know the God of Abraham so shouting in the streets could is to constitute nuisance in such places but there is no society where people set rules to bar people from visiting their neighbors about a better tomorrow!

Petalss:
The same thing he thinks about you too.

Any religion where their God can't resolve the disparities among adherents in a peaceful way is FAKE because the meaning of that title "GOD" should prove true in the midst of those worshiping the same GOD:

But know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here. because men will be...............having an appearance of godliness but proving false to its power. 2Timothy 3:1-5

Godliness where supremacy is not given to the God adherents claims to worship is FALSE!

So you need to open up by speaking with others not keeping it all to yourself!

MARKETfund:
He's no Jehovah's witness.

So you know who is and who is not one of Jehovah's Witnesses but since eight years ago you never dropped one single thread about God's Kingdom on Nairaland rather you are busy in the POLITICS section!

Krismas:
The Bible na scam

OK Sir!

Expanse2020:
But you said now Jesus the God of Israel I. Your post

You misunderstood my comment!

Krismas:
check your ignorance
Everybody else knows Nazareth is a recently MADE-UP CITY.
There was NEVER EVER any Nazareth in the levant 2000yrs ago or ever b4 that time

If you don't BELIEVE the Bible it's OK Sir!

AntiChristian:
So this proofs Joseph's brothers are worshipping a fake God because they were aware of all these your common sense from Jacob aka Israel yet they fought Joseph!
Or is it only applicable to Muslims but not others?
Is it applicable to the revolutionist and crusaders too?

Joseph's brothers did not FIGHT with Joseph nah rather they conspired to sell send him far away so that the prophecies of his dreams may not come true.
So stop deceiving yourself that is not fight as Joseph wasn't ready to fight them and their father never knew about this evil scheme and God never approved it that's why they had to lie to their father about the whereabout of their brother.

Do you think if it's a war like what is happening among those claiming Muslims they will lie to their father who supposed to pray for victory before they can go to war against the enemies of pure worship?

Ọmọ i've told you times without number that you're free to keep the religion of your parents if that's what you want but when it comes to pure worship it doesn't depend on what your parents handed over to you!

Krismas:
Nazareth was never a geographic location
It’s from the Hebrew word Mazzaroth
Jesus of Mazzaroth
Mean Jesus the wizard

Check your map! Matthew 2:23

Expanse2020:
which lie you uncovered about Muslim Abi you are just wining yourself

Ọmọ Jesus never said people should worship him so leave it at that!

Jesus was enthroned in the year 1914

Praise JEHOVAH!

His anointed King has been enthroned in the year 1914!

AntiChristian:
You're just going front and coming back! Where did you see that those fighting themselves are serving a fake God in the first place?
Show us?

Oh that's common sense!

The title "GOD" means SUPREME BEING so if you truly believe that your Allah is SUPREME over you and your fellow Muslim do you think anything no matter how precious it is to you could make you lift up a weapon against your brother in Islam whose life is really precious to your Allah?

In the Bible the God of Abraham warns His own worshipers never to murder {Exodus 20:13} yet He orders them to exterminate those who are standing in the way of pure worship.

So if you are not deceiving yourself is it not clear that the true God wants pure worship to be established and preserve the lives of those participating in pure worship?

There is no single verse in the whole Bible where you can find two opposing sides who are worshipers of the same God of Abraham because if you kill a worshiper of Jehovah or someone when God never gave such an order you're a murderer.

According to God's word Jesus is the one who will destroy all enemies of pure worship {Luke 19:27} but he must never do such unless the order comes from God! Psalms 110:1-2

So your Allah who welcomes worship from two opposing sides yet after slaughtering one another they will bow low facing the black stone in far away Mecca can never ever be the same God who appeared to Abraham!

Expanse2020:
Alot
My father My father
My father is greater than I
O hear Isreal our God is one
Worshipped only one true God
My father is a only good teacher
He plenty I count list them finish

So is Jesus the God servants of God should be worshiping?

Guy you may hate me for standing up against falsehood and stepping on toes of Muslims for falsehood in Islam but you can't see anything against Jehovah's Witnesses!

AntiChristian:
Who told you to consider them? They have the belief and there are in the majority! I just want them to explain it here! And no one can!

So when i'm talking about what is found written in the Bible you bringing the case of those who can't point to what they believe in the Bible is tantamount to holding on to STRAWS!

AntiChristian:
You should quote where our God is fake because there are Muslims fighting themselves exist?

I told you that the God of Abraham has never approved the worship of two opposite sides so His worshipers can never raise weapons against themselves during war because He is their SUPREME RULER, GOD and FATHER who really cares for His worshipers.
So if your Allah welcomes those killing their fellow worshipers due to political or racial disputes then it can't be the same God!

Expanse2020:
I taught Jehovah witness said JESUS is not a God but a son of God.. Abi wetin b dis

What did Jesus said about himself?

AntiChristian:
You said it yourself! Muslims fight (against themselves) because their God is fake!
So Joseph's brothers too fought him because their God were fake!
That's Jehovah witness ideology from NY!

Can you quote or cite anywhere in the Bible where the highlighted is found written?

AntiChristian:
I'm not for Trinity before so which straw did you see for my hand?

When i asked you to quote or cite a verse where TRINITY is found written in the Bible this is your response:

AntiChristian:
Of course it is clear that doesn't exist!

So if you're now claiming those who believe it should be considered then you're holding up to STRAWS!