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SharonLoveth:
You are just a confused soul that has lost everything. Is my write up on specific set of people or general? Simple instructions, read it over and over again, look for a learned person to help you out with the context for easy comprehending

Just say you don't know the answer.

If you know two to three sentences is enough then you can expatiate further if required.

There are many people who have lived before Jesus was born who don't know the God of Israel and till today many don't give a damn what we read to them in books that's what led to that question:

Why is it compulsory to believe in the man called Jesus?

FxMasterz:
My dear, all these to what purpose?
No one is accusing you of contradicting church doctrine. You are contradicting scriptures. You know it. Stop being deceptive!
For example, the scriptures says "We shall not all sleep but we shall all be changed." You are saying "We shall all sleep and be changed." That's satanic. No argument about that.

Ọmọ Paul was talking about the BORN AGAIN Christians who are sleeping in death and mind you not all Christians are BORN AGAIN so i'm not part of them. But all BORN AGAIN Christians must die first before they can drop the physical bodies the difference here is that only those who died before the trumpet sound will sleep as dead people before their resurrection those who are alive by the time the trumpet sound and afterwards will no longer sleep in death. That's what Paul is saying.

FxMasterz:
All cults have the same line of thoughts. True Christians are not measured using this as a yardstick.

You likened God's organization to cult because you think cults do have the same line of thought but you're wrong. Jesus said you people will accuse us of being cultist! Matthew 10:24-25
Cults don't have the same line of thought rather they only target all the goodies of the world for their members.

SharonLoveth:
What you're suffering from is context issue.. Does ABRAHAM, NOAH, LOT and ENOCH I mentioned in my write up compulsorily believe in Jesus Christ? I said read the write up over and over again and if you have comprehending problem on understanding the context, look for anyone to help you out maybe anyone from your hall could be of assistance to you

The question is:

Why is it compulsory to believe in the man called Jesus?

Forget about Noah and others talk generally as if you want to convince someone who has never read the Bible before!

johnw47:
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool
lost false jw mad max
not me but you cannot help but lie:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

You're just an idiot because normally it's you who wants to challenge me in a discussion so you can't be the judge at the same time!

johnw47:
i'm not interested.

So now who is RUNNING?

SharonLoveth:
Hall goer don't even know what to say. If that my write up didn't answered your questions, that shows how hall has affected you negatively. Read the write up over and over again, if problem persists, look for anyone to help you out with the context

So in a nutshell you can't answer the question.
Thanks for your time!

johnw47:
i can and without running away

Ok pick a topic and please no insults let's see how far both of us can go with a topic you will choose!

They studied the scriptures to how Christians in the first century were fulfilling what God's word said about pure worship during the endtime and they realized that the disciples of a man called Jesus of Nazareth were doing just so!

johnw47:
lost false jw mad max

that's what you do often when you cannot reply to truth, you jump to other topics:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

Can you maintain a topic in discussion?

SharonLoveth:
From the scripture I tagged you with earlier, we see that those who died before the coming of Christ shall be judged by Jesus on the last day. And they will be judged for the following reasons:
1. They Had The Demands Of The Law By Nature Written In Their Hearts As a Witness
2. Natural Things Witnessed To Them About God
3. God Have Always Had A Man Tell Others About Him In Almost Every Generation
Before ever the Law came, men like Enoch, Noah, Lot, Abraham and the rest have in one way or the other, spoke about God to individuals and kings of their generations. See the below scriptures.
ENOCH
“And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.” (Jud 1:14-15)
NOAH
“And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly.” (2Pe 2:5)
LOT
“And Lot went out, and spake unto his sons in law, which married his daughters, and said, Up, get you out of this place; for the LORD will destroy this city. But he seemed as one that mocked unto his sons in law.” (Gen 19:14)
From this study in the scriptures, we see that God is going to judge all men including those who died before the coming of Christ by Jesus. Those who through the witnesses that God has left for Himself on the earth trusted in Him for Salvation will be saved. Those who did not exercise Faith in Him regardless of how good and sincere their actions were, will be condemned.
Those who trusted in God for salvation before the coming of Christ shall be saved because the blood of Jesus also took care of their sins. But those who did not will perish alongside those who reject the Gospel today.
I hope this blesses you.
Glory to God!

You didn't answer the question:

Why is it compulsory to believe in Jesus?

johnw47:
quote the hypocrisy oh cannot stop lying one:

Answer the simple question.

Which of the churches in Christendom is really practicing what Jesus taught?

You said all the churches in Christendom makes up Christianity but Jesus prayed for his disciples to have the same line of thought. John 17:22 compare to 1Corinthians 1:10

Are you saying Jesus' prayer wasn't answered?

In the intelligence we were trained not to say to anyone:
"you lied" or "you are lying"
It's when the discussion gets really tough that a liar will no longer be comfortable with the topic of discussion and start jumping from one topic to another.
But in Jehovah's Witnesses organization it's the same thing the only difference is the intelligence will not release the lying one but in Christianity when we discover that the one we are engaging is lying we will free him or her to go and practice whatever he wants to believe it's the lying one that will start to feel guilty holding to straws!

johnw47:
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost false jw mad max

your group isn't following Jesus of nazareth, we know that for sure, your group who
all being of the same line of thought say that Jesus deceived, and teach that Jehovah is not all knowing
and teach that Jehovah is not Almighty, and who blaspheme the Holy Spirit making Him to be a liar

no false jw org. is certainly not a group following Jesus of nazareth

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

etc. etc. etc.

Hypocrisy has rendered you stupid!

FxMasterz:
Yes, we are so accused. Over the years, the Catholic Church has persecuted Christians who showed them the light.

When the Catholic Church was persecuting their own members as in killing them what was the reason the Catholic Church gave back then?
I know you won't like to answer so i will do it myself.
It was on the ground of saying things contrary to what the church agreed upon in the Bible so if you're here calling a group Satanic for holding onto a teaching different from yours who are you representing, dark ages Catholics or true Christians?
Remember true Christians don't go about arguing with people who aren't worshiping with them once your teaching differs from that of the true Christians they will AVOID you! 2John 10-11

FxMasterz:
That isn't the yardstick for measuring true Christians. Even cults have the same lines of thought.

No CULT has the same line of thought because a CULT only works for the interest of their members apart from that they don't think of engaging the public in discussions all they rely upon is the way their members stands to gain in all the goodies in the world.
True Christians work towards a better world in which peace will reign that's the reason why they have the same line of thought!

Do you see the difference?

johnw47:
Russell taught that Jesus invisible presence began in 1874 and rulership in 1878,
to those who have ears to hear it
"Our Lord, the appointed King, is now present since October 1874, A.D., according to the testimony of the prophets, to those who have ears to hear it: and the formal inauguration of his kingly office dates from April 1878, A.D.:" Studies in Scriptures Series - The Day of Vengeance (1897) p.621
today, gods false prophets say that Jesus invisible presence began in 1914
Jesus’ presence in heavenly Kingdom power began in 1914." Watchtower 1993 Jan 15 p.5
to those who have ears to hear it
Mat 7:15  Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

Clap for yourself!

johnw47:
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool
talk about stupid
lost false jw mad max
truly confused and dum one
Christendom and Christianity mean the same thing
Christendom
1. the collective body of Christians throughout the world or throughout history.
2. an obsolete word for Christianity.
1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

Mumu!

Which group out of all the different religions claiming Christians in Christendom is following Jesus of Nazareth?

johnw47:
lost false jw mad max
Christendom is all of Christianity, i'm glad you know you are not part of it
Christendom
1. the collective body of Christians throughout the world or throughout history.
2. an obsolete word for Christianity.

Ọ̀DẸ̀!

So different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines are followers of the man who prayed for same line of thought for his followers right? John 17:22

Stupidity is killing you gradually!

Since the year 1914 Jesus and his angels have been working round the clock to make sure that obedient mankind like SHEEP or FINE SEED are separated from rebellious humans like GOATS or WEEDS.

So how can sincere individuals identify the gathering of the SHEEP in the situation where GOATS are everywhere?

Of course meditating on how the illustration was used SHEEP are domestic animals that are obedient to their shepherd so observing them from a distance you will notice how orderly and well organized they are but as for GOATS each one has its own mindset and always ready to impose it on anyone around it though it doesn't have any group to which it submit to the same rules but it's always fighting over what should be done.

This became obvious since the year 1914!

You're the funniest among them all always looking for where to chuk your stupid comments for them to like the nonsense you're typing!

johnw47:
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool
lost blaspheming fraud jw janosky
3 deities = 3 gods, of course Father Son and Holy Spirit are not 3 gods
as you habitually love to accuse Them:
Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven.
Mat 12:32  And whoever may speak a word against the Son of Man it will be forgiven to him, but whoever may speak against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, neither in this age, nor in that which is coming.
Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

IVYWonder9:
The Bible presents the Devil as evil in all the circumstances. But, God attested to creating both evil and God in Isaiah. How do we balance this report?

God created the gasses that mix up to make heat like the sun and gasses that formed ice like Antarctica so you shouldn't fear mere humans like Nebuchadnezzar who thought he could use heat to destroy God's children only to find out that God has total control over the gasses and can turn it to whatever He wants at the twinkling of an eye, Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego were thrown into a burning furnace with the heat that could melt metals and God turned it into air-conditioner for His servants whereas the same heat destroyed Nebuchadnezzar's bouncers that threw God's servants in the fire.

Lesson learned:
God created good (air-conditioner) and the evil (heat) so He can use it anyhow He likes!

Ken4Christ:
Doubting Thomas. The unbelieving will have their part in the Lake of fire- Revelation 21:8

I'm still expecting your so called pastors or friends to take up snakes with their hands and drink poison in public o!

Ken4Christ:
You must tell more lies to cover previous lies. Even your conscience knows that you are lying. So, God's Throne is now on earth. So the Great White Throne Judgment in Revelation 20:11 also on earth. So, God has left heaven and he uses earth as his operating headquarter. Even Satan will fear your lies. Continue. Son of perdition.

You're quoting two different scriptures out of context but if it's about God's throne with humans on earth here is what the Bible says:

With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his people. And God himself will be with them. Revelations 21:3

According to Jesus Christ the only begotten Son of God, God's Kingdom is COMING to planet earth! Matthew 6:10

FxMasterz:
Satanic teachings that contradict scriptures are unique to you?

According to Jesus of Nazareth his disciples will be accused of Satanic teachings just like he was also accused:

“A student is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his master. It is enough for the student to become as his teacher, and the slave as his master. If people have called the master of the house Be·elʹze·bub, how much more those of his household?" Matthew 10:24-25
So we (JWs) aren't surprised that you and your cohorts whose beliefs contradicts are saying the same thing to us! Matthew 5:11-12

FxMasterz:
No one said He contradicted scriptures.

But they accused him of being Satanic not for miraculous works but his teachings shey? John 10:33
No wahala!

FxMasterz:
My dear, we are Christians. We're not religionists!

True Christians should have the same line of thought {John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3} that's what will help them to have love among themselves {John 13:34-35} so if you people don't agree on teachings and doctrines then in what way are you followers of the man who said his disciples will stand out as a different group with unique teachings? John 17:14-16
Ọmọ just relax and enjoy the company of your friends JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION is perfectly OK with our teachings and doctrines!

FxMasterz:
They criticized Him for claiming to be the Son of God and the Messiah. Did the scriptures describe how the Messiah would like like?

Your organization is blatantly contradicting scriptures and you're here spewing all these balderdash to justify that action?

The Jews know more about the scriptures than you if you stand before any of them quoting their books to justify the actions of Jesus of Nazareth they will just be laughing at you because they don't view him as a sane person! Mark 3:21; John 10:20

So the story is just repeating itself with the JWs having their unique teachings that's making all of you angry yet there's no two religions among you all having the same line of thought!

FxMasterz:
We're not a group. We're simply Christians. And what is JW doing better? Contradicting scriptures and claiming to be the only voice of God on earth while at it?

You don't know the meaning of that word "WE" because if you do you should think of how different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines can claim another religion with their own teachings is contradicting their teachings whereas all of them are contradicting one another!

Emusan:
Finally crawled out of his chicken hole

That's not a contradiction!

Reason why you can't provide the dictionary meaning of CONTRADICTION!

Anyways, it's not today you started giving your personal meaning to a word even when to construct simple sentence is hard for you sometimes

OK nah!

FxMasterz:
Why did you cut off what I said the criticized Him about? Now, show proof of contradiction going by what I told you they criticized Him about - for calling Himself the Son of God and the Messiah. You want to manipulate.y words the way you do the scriptures?

If they CRITICIZE him while they are custodians of the same scriptures he is quoting ọmọ that's CONTRACTIONS!

FxMasterz:
Who were you referring to when you said 'That's what you feel."?

I'm referring to you and your cohorts with whom you're criticizing an organization of like-minded believers whereas you people don't believe the same thing just as Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes and other Jewish Rabbis don't agree on the same line of thought yet all of them were criticizing Jesus and his disciples?

FxMasterz:
Hmmmm.

Who is coming to my own thread after telling him we can never ever agree?
Let them continue to deceive you!

Emusan:
If the Jews believe that Jesus do contradict the scriptures, would they have given Him scripture to read in the first place?

They handed over the scriptures to him in his home town Nazareth where he grew up {Luke 4:16} after hearing about the miraculous works he did in other places but when he began applying the scriptures to himself they wanted to kill him. Luke 4:28-30

Is that not a contradiction?

FxMasterz:
They criticized Him.

Contradiction!

FxMasterz:
WE don't feel you do it. Rather WE see you doing it by contradicting scriptures,

Please who are the so called WE?
And how are they performing better than JWs?

PulsingPurple:
Haa! 😂
You could be right.
Anyways, I'm considering the possibility that the preacher had good intentions in mind while placing his hand so 'casually'...

Of course he may have good intentions but critics will not welcome that!

FxMasterz:
You didn't give me anything. You only quoted a scripture by Jesus Himself where He put His messages in right perspective before a presentation. No one accused Jesus of contradicting or destroying scriptures.

If they don't then why are they criticizing him?

FxMasterz:
Jesus came to fulfil the scriptures. The JWs contradict scriptures from Old Testament to New Testament to establish a satanic gospel.

Exactly what we feel you people are doing as we are fulfilling what the scriptures say but it's now our words against yours that's why you need to look critically into the matter instead of judging from one side!

FxMasterz:
Bring a dictionary that says that.
Bring quotes from scriptures where Jesus was accused of destroying and contradicting.

Ọmọ stop beating around the bush.

I have given you things he said that contradicts what the Jews believe that's why they never accepted him as a true prophet till today!