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zoer:
Is there a better replacement for JW?

NO!
NEVER!

If the meat is not dedicated to any festival i will eat the meat with stout but once it's dedicated to a festival then i will buy my own meat and eat there's no enmity in that after all you too will never eat pork, drink stout or guilder with me and i'm not offended for that!

Before the year 1914 there was no prophet or pastor who claims he wants to perform miracles like Jesus did but after 1914 till today many religious leaders claiming Christians has performed various forms of supernatural signs attributing all to Jesus' name yet they contradicts themselves in teachings and doctrines making Jesus' name like confused religion as observers can't say "this is the religion Jesus is using" Matt 7:21-23

Westerhoffe:
A FAITHFUL WORSHIPER WILL NOT CONTRADICT THE TRUTH OF THE TRUE GOD.

Have you agreed that the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob declared His faithful WORSHIPERS as WITNESSES?

Westerhoffe:
Majority of your doctrines contradict what GOD said, and you tell me you're His witnesses?
Is a witness supposed to change the truth of the sender into a lie?

GOD said the world will be no more: you asked where would GOD put it? And that GOD lied about terminating the earth, but that He would wash it… with what? Hypo or SoKlin?

JESUS CHRIST said He's going to prepare a place for those who believe in Him, you said only the 144,000 will be saved. Then what's your basis for being a witness if you expect to be a castaway?
GOD said He shall save a multitude out of all kindreds and tongues, you said it's a lie.

So, whose witness are you?

First of all have you agreed that the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob declared His faithful WORSHIPERS as His WITNESSES?

Lawag3:
Abraham address this spirit as Lord God in Genesis 15:2

The Hebrew text referred "LORD" in your KJV means YAHWEH or JEHOVAH the personal name of the only true God.

So when Abraham say Jehovah God he was referring to the God who spoke with him just as others also have their Gods like Zeus, Jupiter, Ra and so on.

Each person will call on the name of his own God {Micah 4:5} that's what Abraham did by calling his own God not that he knew this God is the Creator it was Moses whom God revealed all these secret to Abraham never knew all there is to know about the true God! Exodus 6:2-3

Westerhoffe:
So, that's how you explain the Bible?
Well, there is 'witness' in the following too:

“And Moses laid up the rods before the LORD in the tabernacle of witness.”
— Numbers 17:7 (KJV)

“Whoso killeth any person, the murderer shall be put to death by the mouth of witnesses: but one witness shall not testify against any person to cause him to die.”
— Numbers 35:30 (KJV)

“The hands of the witnesses shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterward the hands of all the people. So thou shalt put the evil away from among you.”
— Deuteronomy 17:7 (KJV)

“False witnesses did rise up; they laid to my charge things that I knew not.”
— Psalms 35:11 (KJV)

Does this mean it's JWs too?

You will not contradict His words if you are a true witness of GOD.
So, you're a false witness, pretending to be a true witness.

“I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:”
— Revelation 2:2 (KJV)

The above is what best describes you guys.

So when the Bible mention God it means they are all the same shey?

Well the verses i quoted specifically mentioned that ancient servants of God were WITNESSES of someone that's the context!

Iamanoited:
JUST LIKE HELL, GOD GROUP THEM TOGETHER. SATAN IS ALWAYS THERE AS THE LEADER OF THE DEMONS CRAZY IN HELL

There is no living creature in hell it's a place of no activity!

Westerhoffe:


Listen to yourself!
GOD hid the name!?
From Satan?


Wait, how old are you?

“And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord GOD shall slay thee, and call his servants by another name:”
— Isaiah 65:15 (KJV)

“Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,”
— Hebrews 12:1 (KJV)

“Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.”
— Isaiah 43:10 (KJV)

“And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,”
— Revelation 1:5 (KJV)

Do you even understand these quotes at all?

At least WITNESSES appear in all those verses so you should tell me those ancient servants of God were WITNESSES of who o?

Lawag3:
My friend isn't the owner of all life.
My friend did not give me a child at 100 years.
Abraham obeyed God and his obedience paid Isaac lived and all the promises that God promised him came to pass.

This is where you need a diligent study of the Bible Abraham is from a pagan background {Joshua 24:2} so when he heard the voice of a spirit extending a hand of friendship to him he never knew this Spirit is the Creator all he knew is that this Spirit is powerful and by the time God fulfilled His promises to Abraham he realized that this Spirit is able to do all things but did Abraham know everything about this spirit?
NO! Exodus 6:2-3
So just like all other people back then also heard voices of spirits Abraham had God's voice Satan knew that since Abraham hasn't fully known the real identity of his spirit friend he will not like to continue the friendship if his friend demands something so precious to Abraham like his only begotten Son.
But the idea to sacrifice his only begotten Son couldn't have come from the same Person who said evil thoughts never emanate from Him! Jeremiah 7:31 compare to James 1:13

Westerhoffe:
Were the Apostles JWs?
Was Paul a JW?
Was Steven a JW?

YES!
Our God hid that name from Satan and all his agents throughout human history that's why you people don't know that it's the name our God chose to call His worshipers in this end time! Isaiah 65:15

Paul declared that all servants of God from Abel till the first century were JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Hebrews 12:1

Our God called faithful Israelites His Witnesses {Isaiah 43:10} apostle John called Jesus the most faithful JEHOVAH'S WITNESS! Revelations 1:5

So YES all faithful servants of God in ancient times were JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

Lawag3:
You're talking as if God allowed him to kill Isaac did Abraham kill Isaac? Who stopped Abraham?
Temptation and test are the same thing? That's all I need to know to know that you're ain't ok.

Can your own friend use such a thing to test you and such a friendship won't end the very moment he utter it?

Lawag3:
Do you know the difference between a test and temptation? You don't. its no surprise.

Guy there's no need for further arguments you are free to hold onto your own opinion i've presented my own view on the matter so present yours and move on.

If TEST and TEMPTATION doesn't mean the same to you it means exactly the same to me when it involves evil things, can your own friend ask you to sacrifice your own son for the friendship both of you shared?

If such a TEST doesn't end your friendship with such a person that's your own cup of coffee!

Iamanoited:
TINUBU AND OKPABIO ARE BEHAVING LIKE UNSERIOUS, GOD IS WATCHING THEM.

God has no business with Tinubu or Akpabio they are humans elected (chosen) by humans to govern humans just as DEMOCRACY is defined:
Government of the people by the people and for the people.

According to God's word humans elected or chosen by humans to govern them is not God's will so when the governed are crying to God due to anguish it's none of God's business! 1Samuel 8:10-18

Slavery came with the use of money so until money is no longer in use slavery will continue in the midst of humankind!

brocab:
You asked me where my church is, you didn't ask the churches you mentioned. JW's are not the only dumb dumb's that disobeys the Word of God.
There many different associations who would build churches made of brick and mortar, these are only Churches who focuses on the Money more then they are focused on the people.
But what does the scriptures tells us, it say's the disciples met in private homes, they met outside the temples, they met in the street's, they brought people back to their homes and baptized them.
Christian means Christ like, Church is the people made of flesh and Blood. Church is not a building made of brick and mortar.
Now you mentioned halls, JW's also meet in halls-they call them Kingdom halls.
I am only following the scriptures, where in fact you refuse to obey scripture, you refer to follow after man, that's your choice.
I prefer to stay on course obeying the scriptures, which of course it is the Word of God.

brocab:
It was the Pharisee that met in large buildings made of brick and mortar we now call churches.

So Deeperlife, RCCG, MFM, Lord's Chosen, Apostolic Church, Apostolic Faith, C.A.C, Christ Embassy and all those churches meeting in big buildings made of bricks are all Pharisees!

Aemmyjah:
I'm confused

Good morning my brother, how are you doing?

The idea to sacrifice Isaac doesn't emanate from the heart of our God but from the evil one, if evil test should come from God Himself then who will deliver us from evil? Matthew 6:13

The Israelites were misguided by Satan's agents who drew a comparison from what God asked Abraham to do regarding the sacrifice of his only son so they began sacrificing their sons and daughters to Molek but our God later spoke through prophet Jeremiah saying:

And they have built the high places of Tophet, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my heart. Jeremiah 7:31

Please carefully meditate on the highlighted in blue, switch your mind back to Genesis 22:2 and ask yourself: is God lying by saying such evil idea to sacrifice our children never came into his heart?

Well it's one of Jesus' brothers a Born Again Christian that solved the riddle when he said:

When under trial, let no one say: “I am being tried by God.” For with evil things God cannot be tried, nor does he himself try anyone. James 1:13

So who tried Abraham to sacrifice his only son?

Could it be the same person talking in Jeremiah 7:31?
Is it the same person James was talking about?

In the Bible book of 2Samuel 24:1 God moved David to count the Israelites but 1Chronicles 21:1 says it's Satan who is behind the idea to count the Israelites.

So to have an accurate knowledge of God's word we must read and compare what we read to God's will it's not God's will to test people with evil things.

Please extend my warm greetings to brothers and sisters in Uyo!

TenQ:
God does not TEMPT a person
God may TEST/TRY a person

With evil things shey? James 1:13

Lawag3:
So I should pick the teachings of JW over what is stated in the Bible?

Don't get me wrong i never said JW taught me this but they made each Bible student to be studious with diligence.
God is the one who spoke to his friend but the idea for him to kill his only son is due to accusations from the evil one who always stand accusing faithful people {Revelations 12:10} Satan must have come up with such an evil idea that Abraham's faith in his friend (God) is due to the fulfillment of having a child.

So if Abraham is asked to sacrifice that child he will deny his friend (God) but as things would turn out Abraham was willing to give away anything for this friendship with God. Hebrew 11:17 compare to James 2:23

Such an evil test of faith emanates from the evil one not the Happy God! James 1:13

Ken4Christ:
Religion will not save you. If religion could save, the Jews would have been saved long before Jesus came. You don't hear word, MaxInDHouse.

So why did Jesus say:

"For where there are two or three GATHERED together in my name, there I am in their midst.” Matthew 18:20

Why must they GATHER before the Savior can be in their midst?
And why did Jesus himself practiced religion in his time by attending sacred service with fellow Jews?

Ọmọ there is no salvation for whoever fails to recognize the one and only true religion so if you think you don't need it then stop talking to people let them practice whatever they want after all religion can't save them according to you!

Templee333:
I don't think you have to abuse someone before you make a point. A person who (claim to) represent God should try to avoid all "works of the flesh".

How many times do i have to tell you that you need to humble yourself and learn from Jehovah's Witnesses how to apply what you're reading in the Bible?

Well go and Read Matthew 23:17; Galatians 3:1

Then come back to me and tell me if those two speakers aren't representing God!

Templee333:
Jesus said WHOEVER believes in him will do the WORKS he did. He didn't say group. I have to take it kindly with you because i know what it means to be brainwashed

Hmmmmmmmmmm do you now believe that Jesus was a real historical figure or you're just here to argue?

Meanwhile what WORKS was he talking about?

Templee333:
just go and click "modify" on your opening post. Then you can edit the topic under the topic colum.

John has done that however thanks!

WhatsDifficult:
So that is why u cannot answer it?

Thanks for your time!

TenQ:
Gen 22:1-2
1. Some time later God tested Abraham and said to him, “Abraham!” “Here I am,” he answered.
2. “Take your son,” God said, “your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah. Offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains, which I will show you.”

Lawag3:
Which bible you sef dey read eh? It is literally in the Bible that God was the one who tested Abraham

This is why you guys need to study the Bible with JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

Are you guys Christians or Judaists?

According to Jesus Christ is God the cruel one behind evil thoughts?

Why do you people keep reading verses like:

"All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one fully knows the Son except the Father; neither does anyone fully know the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son is willing to reveal him" Matthew 11:27

Yet you don't grasp that whatever the inspired writers of the Hebrew-Aramaic Scriptures penned down is just a shadow and not the full attribute of the true God?

Well Jesus is the one and only person who knows the father in and out that's why he said the Holy Spirit will continue to reveal the things remaining that his friends need to know {John 16:12-13} according to James a spirit anointed Christians among those referring to the true God as "Abba Father" {Mark 14:36; Romans 8:15} this is what we learned:

When under trial, let no one say: “I am being tried by God.” For with evil things God cannot be tried, NOR DOES HE HIMSELF TRY ANYONE. James 1:13

So i ask you people again:

The idea that Abraham should kill his only son came from God or Satan? Job 1:9-11 compare to Revelations 12:10

Pray for understanding {Proverbs 2:1-5} instead of arguing blindly like Muslims who say their Allah is the same person behind GOOD and EVIL!

WhatsDifficult:
What if

You need to know the difference between truth and falsehood your question is like saying what if someone is drinking sand and swallowing it like gari.
Is that possible?
Preaching is a very difficult job that's why Jesus told his close confidants that they will need God's holy spirit to energize them.
Do you think God's holy spirit will energize someone preaching rubbish?
If you know all the features of original money you can't be deceived with fake money!

WhatsDifficult:
Sir the question am asking is what will if the is a big church going all around the world preaching rubbish. U have not answerd me but you are saying different things ever since

You who need to know the difference between the truth and falsehood then you will know that it's impossible for zealous preachers to preach falsehood!

Iamanoited:
THE HEAVENS ARE OPEN ALWAYS TO THE FAITHFULS, THE HOPEFULS, THE PEACEFULS AND THE LOVING.

"FESTINA LENTE".

Is the true God partial?

Jesus commissioned a group and prophesied that this group will be known globally for their zealous preaching and industrious teaching of the Good News of God's kingdom have you seen them in your neighbourhood?

Praise JEHOVAH!

BewareOf419:
We all know and understand the story of Job but we are more concern about Abraham.. So the idea to test the faith of Abraham came from God and not from satan as you claimed

The idea to test someone with the death of his only son shey?

Well this is what the Christians in the first century believe:

Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: James 1:13

Thanks for your time!

Before the decree bring forth, before the day pass as the chaff, before the fierce anger of the LORD come upon you, before the day of the LORD'S anger come upon you.
Seek ye the LORD, all ye MEEK of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek MEEKNESS: it may be ye shall be hid in the day of the LORD'S anger. Zephaniah 2:2-3

Blessed are the MEEK: for they shall inherit the earth. Matthew 5:5

But why is MEEKNESS so important?.

Well humans always find it difficult to humble themselves in the face of knowledge so even though they realized that the person who who is talking is knowledgeable and wiser 99.9% of humans will start arguing blindly they thought by agreeing with facts they've been conquered whereas wisdom builds strong bond between two or more people {Matthew 18:20} but when each person is puffed up with pride there won't be cooperation and lack of cooperation means no progress!