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MindHacker9009:
Read Employees, Court and Judicial Procedure in the Mosaic laws.

Are courts executing people for sleeping with one another without marriage?

Aemmyjah:
1 Timothy 5:23
Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach’s sake and thine often infirmities.
What kind of wine is used for stomach upset? Alcoholic or non alcoholic?
Bible does not teaches abstinence from wine 😉

The idea his pastors gave him has fallen yakata because if drinking must surely lead to drunkenness then eating must lead to gluttony and speaking to a female must surely lead to fornication!

Aemmyjah:
Don't mind him
Let him belive books that says that Abraham bosom has catch fire

He's the funniest religionist on this forum the dude will continue threatening everyone with Hellfire but who are those that agree with him regarding faith?
Nobody!

MindHacker9009:
So no one is following what the invented Jesus christ has commanded today not even your organisation you are so much in love with because the have kept all the billions of dollars which that are paying from so that you can always talk good of them on this forum.

So your so called commandments isn't working anywhere even in Israel.

Ọmọ stop making noise on this forum about Jews and Judaism because no nation on this planet is practicing what the mosaic law says!

Shame on you!

Questionnaires:
All these stories written up in the Bible Were All Made Up By Who? Don't You Think These Are All Stories Made Up By The Same Government Who Wants To Rule Over People ?
I Believe The JW Are People That Can Heal The World If They Can See Through These Whole Stories As Fairy Tales.
Here is My Question:
Where Is The Garden of Eden Located On Earth ?

Now you've proved me right that you are biased towards the Bible but it's a welcome development because you yourself said:

"I Believe The JW Are People That Can Heal The World"

If you can utter such then you've commended the Bible already because the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses is formed through the study of the Bible.

This is what Jesus said about his real disciples:

"You are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when located on a mountain. People light a lamp and set it, not under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it shines on all those in the house. Likewise, let your light shine before men, so that they may see your fine works and give glory to your Father who is in the heavens." Matthew 5:14-16

So glory be Jehovah the God of Jehovah's Witnesses for helping His true worshipers to fulfill what is written in His word!

Ken4Christ:
You make me laugh. Don't worry. I am just very busy. But I will expose all the lies in your book very soon. I am sure it will be published before the end of the year.

Even atheists, agnostics, Muslims and Judaists have published countless books about Jesus of Nazareth, has it stop everyone from believing in Jesus?

Steep:
works can't save you, no matter your zealousness in serving for jehovah witness organisation, good morals, or fine works, it counts for nothing before God.
What counts before God is only the finished work of christ on the cross, faith in Jesus alone is what saves a man.
Faith in Jesus plus works will land you in hell!

Nevertheless, someone will say: “You have faith, and I have works. Show me your faith without the works, and I will show you my faith by my works.” You believe that there is one God, do you? You are doing quite well. And yet the demons believe and shudder. But do you care to know, O empty man, that faith without works is useless? James 2:18-20

Argue with the Bible!

God's Kingdom or God's government!

MindHacker9009:
So no one is following what the invented Jesus christ has commanded today not even your organisation you are so much in love with because the have kept all the billions of dollars which that are paying from so that you can always talk good of them on this forum.

That means even your so called Judaists aren't practicing the law of Moses today you're just deceiving yourself!

Steep:
you can't put your faith in Christ when you deny his deity.
Secondly you don't do faith, jws believe in works based salvation.
You don't put your faith in christ if you believe your good morals, membership of jehovah witness organization and good works in general is what will save you on judgment day.
Jehovah witness follow a spirit that masqades as angel Micheal not Jesus.
Putting your faith in false christ is worse because you are deeply decieved.

Why are you this aggressive?

Well FAITH without WORKS is DEAD! James 2:26

AntiChristian:
Was Jesus too in the picture siting at the right side of his father?

What has that got to do with your first question?

MindHacker9009:
First you should name any person that has sold all they have, given all the money to the poor as the invented Jesus craft has commanded and are now just only following the invented Jesus christ now.

So no nation not even the Jews in Israel today are using the Mosaic laws as a nation!

Zaheertyler:
You committed a crime and the judge sees that you're willing to change and frees you
That means you owe the judge your life?
Or you can make the judge proud by actually changing and living a better life?

It's not the judge but someone who has the power to right the wrong.

For instance you mistakenly hit someone with your car and he died instantly surely you can't reverse that but what if someone has the power to raise the one you killed back to life?

That's what i'm saying!

Zaheertyler:
And atonement is?

Willingness to go back and right your wrong so if anyone can do it in your behalf you owe your life to such a person because he is the one who bailed you out!

They are spirit sons of God who are faithful and loyal to God for countless years that's why they are addressed as "ELDERS" the account goes on to say they also render sacred service to God but they are not humans because they were pictured with the four living creatures standing around God's throne! Revelations 5:8

Zaheertyler:
First step to atonement is forgiveness

"Repentance" is the word not "forgiveness"

Forgiveness is letting go of a wrongdoing while repentance is realizing the evil in what you did.

So in forgiveness is 90% tendency to repeat the wrongdoing but 0% if it's repentance.

The one forgiven haven't seen the bad effects of a wrongdoing that's why the load is no the offended not the offender but the repentant one is already overwhelmed so if given the opportunity to turn back the hand of the clock he will right his wrong.

That's what REPENTANCE means!

MindHacker9009:
You are the one that does not know what to believe. If you believe Jesus then sell all what you have and give it to the poor as Jesus commanded. Have you done that? And why is your organisation keeping those billions of dollars when they are supposed to give all of it to the poor and follow Jesus.
A nation today cannot exist without most of the laws of Moses.
If Jesus was a ruler he would have been very thankful to Moses for having those laws. But instead he went on the invented cross which is used today to control the minds of the gullible ones.

Name any nation that's using the Mosaic laws today!

Ken4Christ:
I have your book, You can live forever in paradise on earth. So, I know what I am saying. Do you want me to quote from the pages of the book?

Did you study it with JWs to know what the book is saying or you just read with your Hellfire doctrine thought?

MindHacker9009:
There was nothing hard keeping the laws of Moses just as it is with keeping the laws of a country. Most of the laws of Moses are in every countries laws today. If your invented Jesus christ has accepted it when the people wanted to make him king he would have been very thankful to Moses for having those laws. But instead he went on the invented cross which is used today to control the minds of the gullible ones.

Your problem is that you don't even know what to believe because if it's about the books written before Jesus comes it's written in there that no one was able to live by the Mosaic laws!

God's laws given to Moses is perfect! Deuteronomy 32:4
So when God looked at all humans through the lense of the Mosaic laws this is what He said:

But Jehovah looks down from heaven on the sons of men To see whether anyone has insight, whether anyone is seeking Jehovah. They have all turned aside; They are all alike corrupt. No one is doing good, Not even one! Psalms 14:2-3

No one can live by the Mosaic laws says the Author Himself so stop deceiving yourself!

Expanse2020:
Which Muslim and which Muslim are fighting against each other ooo

Iraq and Iran are both Muslim nations your god failed woefully to stop them from killing themselves till today!

damosky12:
Fallacy of false equivalence (read up on it).
I think its high time govt made logic compulsory in all secondary schools.

Guy Jesus striked a conversation with the lady who thought the young Jew was interested in her until Jesus changed the subject.
So if your own opinion is for people to stop drinking for them not to get drunk then avoid talking to a female to whom you're not married because that's where fornication and adultery starts from in fact Muslims won't allow you to talk to their wives as they believe that drinking will lead to drunkenness.

damosky12:
Fair observation. And you're right. But drunkenness starts with drinking. And there's no measure for what measure makes drunken or what doesn't. Hence, caution is to choose to never be given to it. We must choose to take the truth even if it's against our appetite or craving.

Fornication and adultery starts with engaging a female stranger in discussion {John 4:7} so never talk to female strangers!

Ken4Christ:
Why are you lying to your teeth? You know that your organization says that Jesus did not rise from the dead bodily. So, you don't believe that God raised him from the dead.
You don't even teach that people can be saved through the process of believing and confessing Jesus.

Guy if you're seeking attention i'm not ready for that nonsense this afternoon.

I told you we believe that Jesus resurrected and that he is both Lord and Christ to us.

So if you need further explanation go and ask JWs in your neighbourhood!

Corrections:
You don't pay tithe !!!!!!!!

Monetarily or materially?
NO, we don't pay tithes to anyone!
Spiritual as in service to our Lord?
YES, we pay directly to Christ Jesus!

That's what you should know about the talent given to each servant and why each must remit profit for the Master Lord and King Christ Jesus! Matthew 25:14-30

Inheritance was shared for all other tribes of Israel {Deuteronomy 14:29} that's why God could justifiably say they are robbing Him if they fail to pay their tithes {Malachi 3:9} they supposed to pay it to their brother "Levi" who is serving in the temple {Hebrews 7:5} as his descendants were excluded during sharing the inheritance.

So if you're not a member of that twelve tribes you have no business with tithing Jesus is what concerns you and so you have to pay your tithe directly to him not to anybody!

Would you like to know how tithe are being paid to Christ directly from the first century till today among true Christians?

Ken4Christ:
The will of God is to believe in Jesus. This is where the journey of your faith begins. You must believe he died for you. You must also believe that God raised him up from the death. Finally, open your mouth and confess him as your Lord and Savior - Romans 10:9-10.

That is what all members of Jehovah's Witnesses organization believes so learn what each phrase means!

Zaheertyler:
Did God tell them that they were no longer children of isreal?

Jesus God's only begotten Son declared that the nation of Israel has been condemned:

"This is why I say to you, the Kingdom of God will be taken from you and be given to a nation producing its fruits. Matthew 21:43

"Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the killer of the prophets and stoner of those sent to her—how often I wanted to gather your children together the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings! But you did not want it. Look! Your house is abandoned to you" Matthew 23:37-38

After the nation rejected God's son who is Christ Jesus and said his blood should come upon their children and great grandchildren {Matthew 27:25} that curse was stamped by the heavens.

God said those honoring Him He will honor and those despising Him he will treat with contempt {1Samuel 2:30} that's why God is no longer giving Israelites such everlasting benefits anyone who accepts Jesus has been given the power to be called God's children! John 1:11-12

MindHacker9009:
So what you mean is the Jesus went on the cross because of the laws of Moses a man and not because of the Laws of God, but Jesus christ called himself god.

Change of subject!

It's impossible for anyone to fully practice what the 600+ laws given to Moses says.
It's not just ten as you erroneously stated.

The commandments aren't ten but 600+ God only wrote ten on stone tablets for Israelites to believe that the laws Moses is talking about is the continuation of this first ten.
For instance it's in the law that Israelites should pay tithes, can you quote where it's found among the ten?
God commanded the Israelites not to marry none Israelites, can you quote where it's found among the ten?
God commanded the Israelites to stone fornicators and adulterers to death, can you quote where it's found among the ten?

So the ten stands as evidence that God is the one who gave Moses all those laws as the ten are the first on the list.

However God Himself declared that no Israelite completely fulfilled what that law says {Jeremiah 31:31-34} hence they need God's laws to be written in their hearts through the life of a perfect human that's the covenant Christ Jesus came to seal!

Faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for the evident demonstration of reality even though they are not seen! Hebrews 11:1

Works is activities having to do with laws or written codes meant to fulfill a conventional task as noticed by observers

So Paul is talking about Christians in Galatia, this people were limping between two opinions whether to join other Christians in doing God's will as taught by Christ Jesus or to merge the two together by practicing what Judaists does in the temple! Galatians 3:1-3

So faith in Christ Jesus has nothing to do with the works of the Mosaic laws no human can fulfill what the Mosaic laws says completely that's why it's a curse {Galatians 3:10} God told their ancestors that He will later write His laws in their hearts {Jeremiah 31:33} this can only be possible if they're to look onto a human who perfectly did God's will and God Himself declared such a person approved! Matthew 17:5

By so doing faith in imitating such a person will save them from the curse of the laws that no one can perfectly practice!

Expanse2020:
You can help it, the book of God cannot have error,

The book written and copied by God himself or by imperfect humans?
If there's no error in your Quran why aren't you all having the same line of thought that your Allah is the supreme one?
And if your Allah is the supreme one why can't he settle your disputes so that Muslims won't raise weapons against Muslims?
For your information errors is what triggers fights among adherents of a book so if Muslims do fight against Muslims and your Quran is helpless in resolving such disputes know today that your Quran is full of blunders!

OctavianAC:
But Jesus said he has not come to condemn the laws, not even when he was speaking about tithe. Lk 11:42, Matt 23:23.
Can you teach what God want from us in this scripture?

Why not complete what Jesus said so that you can fully grasp it?

“Do not think I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I came, not to destroy, but to fulfill." Matthew 5:17

From all indications Jesus' teachings is ending the laws because there are many things the law commanded that Jesus condemned.

For instance the law didn't ask if anyone is a sinner before stoning a sinner to death neither did the law say God's people should pray and help their enemies. So what Jesus meant by that statement is his own role as the prophet who has come teach them what the laws stands for, in fact God warned the Israelites that when this prophet comes they must listen to him because he is coming in the manner of Moses {Deuteronomy 18:18-19} this is the prophet who will serve as God in their midst {Isaiah 9:6 compare to John 1:1} just as Moses also served as God in his time! Exodus 7:1

So unlike Moses who gave them a written code which no imperfect human can practice without blunders Jesus lived by his own laws making it clear that all humans can live by it if they are willing to! Jeremiah 31:31-34

That's why Jesus never demanded tithes from his own disciples neither did he pay it it ended with the religion practiced in ancient temple of Israel! Hebrews 7:5-12

Aemmyjah:
You're not serious
Who listens to someone who drops junkie comments like you?
If you view the Word of God as inaccurate, it's your own freaking problem, not mine

Faith is not a possession of all kinds of people! 2Thessalonians 3:2

So when talking about faith in God many just don't want to be totally left out from what the crowd is doing that's why they're professing faith in God, if all the people they hold with high esteem declare they're no longer interested in God majority declare they're atheists!