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God created humans with intelligence.
“Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness" Genesis 1:26

Here God is talking to His only begotten Son with whom He created all things as He used this spirit son as a master craftsman beside Him during creation {Proverbs 8:30} so the title "GOD" doesn't end with worship rather it includes the ability to make things better and make better things as in new innovations {Revelations 21:5} that's why God referred to humans as demigods! Psalms 82:6
God created humans from the same material used in creating animals but with intelligence so that humans can think of how to make things better and make better things.

For instance none among the creatures of the earth ever thought of improvement in living conditions, outfits, recreation, socializing and so on they have all remained exactly the same way their ancestors were except humans that is the import of what God said:

So we were created with the ability to create things but we must not set standards for our fellowman that will lead to disaster!

Zaheertyler:
The children of isreal are currently in graves
Spiritual Graves
They are supposed to carry the spirit of God
They they choose idolatory and life of sin
Which isn't in accordance to the spirit of their creator
But they will ultimately find their way back to their creator
Na you Sabi wetin you dey read and understand
But I'm just here to laugh and have fun
So continue

"The children of isreal will ultimately find their way back to their creator"

Jacob (Israel) is a man chosen by God because of his faith in God and doing God's will so when God call people "Israelites" they are not the literal descendants of Jacob rather they are people who have faith in God and prepared to do God's will wherever such ones could be found on this planet God will connect them to other faithful ones around the globe to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers:

In the final part of the days, The mountain of the house of Jehovah Will become firmly established above the top of the mountains, And it will be raised up above the hills, And to it all the nations will stream. And many peoples will go and say: “Come, let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah, To the house of the God of Jacob. He will instruct us about his ways, And we will walk in his paths.” For law will go out of Zion, And the word of Jehovah out of Jerusalem. He will render judgment among the nations And set matters straight respecting many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares And their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, Nor will they learn war anymore! Isaiah 2:2-4

So faithful people throughout the world are the ones the Bible refers to as Israelites that will surely be blessed not literal descendants of Jacob.

May you have PEACE!

Roycemadeit:
You committed no crimes, that you never prayed for repentance until you encountered someone who told you that you are a sinner, suggests that it wasn't a personal realisation but a mental conditioning. If we were to assume that it's necessary for one to repent, then those who lived and died years before Christianity was created would all be in hell.

Crime slightly differ from sin!

Sin means blunders that will eventually lead to disaster but not obvious from the perspective of a freethinker.

So before you can think of repentance someone needs to enlighten you about that sin (unknown blunder) you're committing and it's consequences to illustrate imagine a person who loves taking in carbohydrates and protein but finds it boring to take in fluid as in water, is such a person harming anyone? But what if nobody explains to him the importance of fluid in the body system? Do you think he or she is living fine?

That's exactly what sin means not just crime that even a toddler can grasp as bad.

Questionnaires:
Why Did A Supposedly Almighty God Create A Spirit That He Knows Will Become SATAN Who Will Rebel Against His Authority?

According to the Bible God never harbour evil thoughts {James 1:13} so when He created the intelligent creatures He never doubted them by reading their hearts to know what they will choose to do, He is HOLY means PURE in heart and thought therefore everyone was given the privilege to prove how grateful they are for the gift of life!

Questionnaires:
Since The Bible Records That: "God Knows The END From The BEGINNING."
So, God Knew Before Hand That One of The So-Called Spirit That He Created Will Someday Become THE SATAN That Would Slander His Project.

NO! He never knew because He gave everyone the privilege to prove themselves grateful for all He has done for us:

““Do not harm the boy, and do not do anything at all to him, for now I do know that you are God-fearing because you have not withheld your son, your only one, from me.” Genesis 22:12
Does the above shows God knows what each person will choose to become as most people presume?

Questionnaires:
Why Did He Carry On With The Creation of This Slanderer That He Should Have Avoided Knowing Fully Well That He Wants To Achieve A Successful Project?

During creation the HOLY one never harbour any evil thoughts because He has the power to complete whatever He purposes to do no matter what happens so He gave everyone the opportunity to participate in His works even the tiny ants you're seeing around you have a part to play in God's will regarding our planet home: earth.

God said He knows the ending from the beginning doesn't mean what each person will choose to do rather He has the ability to see the work done to the end:

"For just as the rain and the snow pour down from heaven And do not return there until they saturate the earth, making it produce and sprout, Giving seed to the sower and bread to the eater, So my word that goes out of my mouth will be. It will not return to me without results, But it will certainly accomplish whatever is my delight, And it will have sure success in what I send it to do" Isaiah 55:10-11

May you have PEACE!

Questionnaires:
You Are One of The Smartest Christians on Nairaland and in Nigeria At Large.

Thanks for the flattery i know you are joking with this but it's OK i welcome such anytime.

Questionnaires:
Let's Take Your Analysis To Be Factual.
Now, What is Stopping God From Destroying The Slanderer Instead of Casting The Humans Deceived By The Slanderer into The Lake of Fire ?

God is not power drunk like stupid humans so when His spirit son turned to a rebel He chose wisely His next line of action which is allowing this spirit son to see the consequences of rebellion instead of killing him which may raise doubts in the minds of His other spirit sons.
The allegation Satan raised against God is that He doesn't want anyone to be truly free which means He is hiding something from them so if they're allowed to do whatever they like they will really enjoy their existence better than just doing the will of one person.
With that God freed him that's why God didn't destroy Satan immediately.

Questionnaires:
What is The Whole Essence of Creating A Malfunctioning "So Called Perfect Spirit of God" Who Decides To Rule Over Others ?

Perfection in this case doesn't mean the created can't choose to do what is harmful it simply means the creature can perfectly handle any assignment given without a blunder if he is willing because all the qualities needed to carry out the task is inbuilt in each creature so when God said everything He made was perfect {Genesis 1:31} it means they can perform excellently as long as they're doing the tasks assigned to them.

Questionnaires:
What Has Been Stopping God From Destroying Satan All These While Instead of Allowing Satan To Destroy His Original Plan For Humans And The Earth ?

Did you realize that after Satan has taken his leave from doing God's will he recruited Adam and Eve who are also perfect creatures as his allies?
He lied to Eve that they will not die if they eat the forbidden fruit, they will become their own God and know how good and bad without having to rely on God's guidance! Genesis 3:4-5
Of course Eve fell for it but Adam didn't {1Timothy 2:14} Adam saw it as a way out to dominate other intelligent creatures that will come through him after all they are his own production that's why God told Eve that Adam who has chosen to be a god on his own now will not only dominate others but also treat her the same way he does to others! Genesis 3:16
So Satan introduced POLITICS to the human family in that they will set standards for right and wrong among themselves without God's approval then those ruling over them will act like gods by proving to be above the laws after all they made the law therefore they can alter it anytime they want most especially when it's about to catch up with them.
Today the world has seen so much trouble due to human rulership {Ecclesiastes 4:1; 8:9} and Satan has failed in his attempts to make humans rule themselves successfully so when Jesus said God has proved to be true in all His ways he was referring to what God said in the beginning:

"But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die" Genesis 2:17

Even without sickness or oldage most people feel like ending their own lives today due to the untold pains and suffering brought upon the human race by human government!

Drjones109:
I'm not against atheism. In fact my father is atheist and my mom is Christian. They were married but now divorced (nothing to do with with religion though). He allowed us to be raised Christian and go to church. He just didn't want do do it himself which is his choice and I respect it. I just don’t know how they did it.

Obviously Atheists and Christians can date it's a free country. But I don't know how it works out. Here's the thing not all but a lot of atheists mocks Christianity, calls it the white mans religion and calls God sky daddy so I wonder then if you think that then why would you date someone who believes in that. That's like me despising Andrew Tate and dating an Andrew Tate supporter.

Same thing goes for Christians. I would have more smoke for them. Even if I date an atheist I don't want to hope that one day he will seek Jesus Christ. I don't believe in changing a man and also I don't believe in conversion. I would feel guilty if a man became Christian because of me. Like he should come to Christianity by himself. So I rather find a good guy who is already Christian.

I'm not saying interfaith couples can't work. There are exceptions. But just like politics, religion also matters in relationships. Especially when it comes to kids.

I believe Christians should stick with Christians for marriage. I mean we should be equally yoked.

Your mom is not a Christian but a good woman who attends church services!

Most of you don't know the difference between a Christian and a person who loves to attend church services. Someone may be good and kind hearted but that doesn't make them Christians even if they're attending religious services in buildings called "CHURCH"

A Christian is one who has dedicated his or her life to do the will of God and marrying only in the Christian fold is a vital part of God's will for Christians. So if your mom got married to an atheist it simply means she only has a kind heart and willing to join others in worship but she has not dedicated herself for God to do His will!

The fallen angels are just acting Nollywood with their agents nobody can bind the spirit beings because they're a million times powerful than humans {2Kings 19:35} even Jesus has been given a time when he can do that {Psalms 110:1} until then only him can disturb them in their activities {Matthew 8:29} all we can do is to beg God for protection from these powerful unseen beings! Matthew 6:13

Aemmyjah:
Ok
Sincere believers accept what the Bible says
Disciples of God prayed to God through his holy servant and he answered them.
You cannot invalidate
Either they said nonsense or you're just too stupid to understand anything

He wants to turn to my side again o!

Aemmyjah:
Ok na
MUMU
Moses best friend called him God's servant
Jesus closest friends called him God's servant
Go and correct them
Your stupidity is getting poisonous to you really. It is so high that you can't reach it
Bye
If you like mention me a million times, I won't answer you

He knows nothing apart from exchange of hurtful words so once i've beaten him smartly i will just leave him to continue agitating at least Moses and Jesus admitted they were SENT by someone GREATER than them and their friends realized that they are serving the one who SENT them as SERVANTS.

Ọmọ that's enough for stubborn churchgoer!

Aemmyjah:
We all hope or wish that things get better
Hope is not blind. You work or show it
Many including you hope in politicians to make things better
Other put faith in science
Mankind has invented many things to make life easy for himself
Morals is built on religion, tradition or one's philosophy. Even atheists have things to guide them since they don't feel accountable to a higher power
Hope is stupid to you cos you don't have it and your efforts to bring about a better world is useless. Hope is built on a faulty foundation
My hope is on God. He alone has to power to accomplish everything

Atheist may claim to be wise but they live for the moment like animals - no future, no direction, no hope!

He doesn't even know what logic means!

What keeps him living if not hope?

Why hasn't he committed suicide or starve himself to death if there's no hope in his thoughts?

Corrections:
Why do you speak with both side of your mouth? At this moment you argue on how tithes should be paid the next moment you claim tithe does not exist. I should have known that I was talking with the wrong person all along with your responses that have no scriptural bases or back up. Your doctrine frowns at paying tithe (so you don’t do it) yet you want to teach those whose doctrine permits them to pay tithe. A blind man that wants to lead a man with 2 eyes that see should not be taken seriously.

I am telling you what the law of Moses said not what you feel due to misappropriation of funds by your pastors in your churches.
God commanded His worshipers to pay tithes and it must be brought into the temple not to be given to anyone.
That's what the law of tithe says.

But in Christianity there's nothing called tithe because we are not practicing the religion that ancient Israelites practiced so if you're talking about helping the needy it's a Christian practice and it's called "gifts of mercy" that's why i said "don't call it tithe because tithes must be deposited in God's house according to the Mosaic law"

dkidd:
U wrote a whole lot but still didn't answer the question

It's the religion Moses handed over to Israelites that has tithing as part of its system of operations in Christianity tithing has no part that's why it's not mentioned in the New Testament as a requirement!

Speaklove:
I WANT THE STORY OF MY LIFE TO BE A STORY OF HOPE TO OTHERS

Are you truly ready to become a Christian?

I asked you because i have noticed so many of your posts that you have the heart that's seeking God but i doubt it if you will rejoice when you finally know what it means to be a Christian!

Pekun210:
Any ideas from the prophetess out there?

You should join those seeking God with their hearts not faithless crowd looking for solution to their problems!

44smart:
This is something that has caused several argument, because the understanding that of this to some is by going to church every Sunday, u have obeyed the commandment and hence seeing one that doesn't go as a sinner.
Does going to church every Sunday make one holy? Does it mind if you don't go to church u can't still be holy? Why emphasis only on Sunday of all the days in the week.

It was supposed to be a Saturday because that is the day God chose for the Israelites but today the world has chosen Sunday as a day of rest so you can still make your Sunday Holy by reading, studying, meditating on God's word (Bible) and praying fervently for God to direct you and your household on the practical application of God's word! Deuteronomy 6:4-7

May you have PEACE!

akpaan:
What is the fate of the rest of the world outside Israel that died before Christ was born, that perhaps never had a chance to hear about the True God?

Those that live by conscience will be raised in the resurrection because they proved that in their hearts there is fear of God even though they don't know the true God:

For all those who sinned without law will also perish without law; but all those who sinned under law will be judged by law. For the hearers of law are not the ones righteous before God, but the doers of law will be declared righteous. For when people of the nations, who do not have law, do by nature the things of the law, these people, although not having law, are a law to themselves. They are the very ones who demonstrate the matter of the law to be written in their hearts, while their conscience is bearing witness with them, and by their own thoughts they are being accused or even excused. This will take place in the day when God through Christ Jesus judges the secret things of mankind, according to the good news I declare" Romans 2:12-16

They will be remembered and brought back to life as unrighteous ones {Act 24:15} and they will have the opportunity to learn about Christ Jesus when Satan, demons and all their human agents promoting falsehood are no more around to deceive anyone {Revelations 20:2-3} during that time only true Christianity will exist on planet earth and if anyone wants to interrupt pure worship then God will allow such a person to live for just 100 years and he will die as a youth {Isaiah 65:20} because for 1000 years no one will grow old, get sick or die as Jesus will apply the benefit of his sacrifice globally. So when anyone die that time there will be no burial arrangements for them because only unrepentant sinners will be liable to death as for all repentant sinners God will be patient with them until after 1000 years when they would have grown up to perfection.

What about people who deliberately choose to be wicked?
Well they have shown that they have no fear of God in them so during resurrection they will not be remembered at all! Psalms 9:17

May you have PEACE!

pansophist:
I've paid more tithes than lots of tithes payers, and it's because I give and help those in need a lot. My tithes will never go to any pastor. Many of them are thieves.

You've never paid tithe before!
What you're paying is called "gift of mercy" the TITHE must be taken to the temple and deposited there.
Today Christ Jesus isn't demanding for money as tithe so both payers of monetized tithes and none payers have detailed there's a way we are to pay our tithes directly to Christ Jesus today but the one and only organization that knows this has been blackmailed among you!

OctavianAC:
Have you ever heard God drawing debt or says in anywhere or through the prophets that anyone owes him? Because even if you are up to date and consistent in your tithe you still own God a debt you cannot pay. The debt is your life you don't even have right to take.

Melagros:
Mofo, pastor come collect my own, si you forgot what James said

Most of you are faithless you just want to show up where crowd gathers without any commitment but it's OK.
I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses we don't pay nor collect tithe in our place of worship but if you attend religious service in a place where it's demanded then know today that you are owning the god they worship in that place because the priest (pastor) has told you what his god demands.
Tithing is required in the Bible during Mosaic laws but in Christianity it's no longer required that means the gods your churches worship are not the same otherwise all of you will have the same line of thought regarding what your god required! John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10

dkidd:
How do u mean it ended? Show me where or how it was ended pls

In the Mosaic laws God commanded Israelites not to share one tribe part of the inheritance this was the tribe called "Levites" God said this tribe will be working in the temple as priests and singers.
So out of the twelve tribes of Israel the Levites were excluded during the sharing of inheritance that's why God commanded the remaining tribes to bring ten percent of whatever they gain from the inheritance shared to them:

At the end of every three years, you should bring out the entire tenth part of your produce for that year and deposit it inside your cities. Then the Levite, who has not been given a share or an inheritance with you, the foreign resident, the fatherless child, and the widow who are in your cities will come and eat their fill, so that Jehovah your God may bless you in all that you do! Deuteronomy 14:28-29

So the Levites will carry the tithes and share among themselves out of which they're to pay tithes too it's from this that the fatherless child, widows and visitors will be taken care of therefore the people who are not supposed to pay tithes at all are ORPHANS, WIDOWS and VISITORS because this three have nothing as business so there's nothing to divide and pay tithes (tenth part)

When Christ Jesus established Christianity the Israelites are no longer together so the system of tithing has become a heavy burden on the two tribes called "Jews" yet those officiating in the temple don't care about where the money is coming from even if an orphan, widow or visitors brings tithes they will collect from them but they will not pay back as required by the law that's why Jesus cursed them! Matthew 23:23

So in Christianity that was established by Christ Jesus himself nobody is to be paid a dime for the work Jesus assigned to his disciples {Matthew 10:6-8} that's why apostle Paul made it clear that since the Levitical priesthood has ended with it's system Christians are no longer required to pay tithes! Hebrews 7:5-12

dkidd:
Sometimes I wonder why people argue on this. Spreading the good news ( gospel) is expensive like everything else. Running a church requires cash flow like everything else. And yes men of God are also to be monetarily provided for in other to sustain like everyone else and also cater to those within the church that requires some form of assistance. Paying of tithe and offerings takes care of all these and also the advancement of God's kingdom requires money here on earth. Like organizing programs. Paying for space or buying a land and building, electricity, water and every other basic thing required for life to thrive. All these will not run on themselves hence God commanded tithe payment. Anyone saying pastors are eating the tithe is stupid. Wetin pastor supposed to eat. Shebi he's doing the work? He is entitled to a part of it so is the church management. Giving 10% of our income has become a problem to some but they will rather pay in into meaningless ventures. It is when a church becomes too obsessed with financial gains more than spreading the gospel or advancing the kingdom that it should be a problem. Una no get conscience? Some of these pastors are full time as in no other job but this and u will still be finding it difficult to pay for offerings and tithe. Some churches run gen 24/7, all the electrical equipment, sitting chairs, church bus, tracts and stickers, publications, online presence etc all require funding. You would rather prefer these pastors go begging before they can do these basic things for themselves? I believe anyone fighting against tithing is an agent of darkness no two ways about it. In this life money is a necessity and the church is not an exception to it. We must move to the permanent site. Pay ur tithe and offerings cheerfully and generously and see how God will make things to work for u.

Paying of tithes is not a requirement in Christianity, it ended with the Jewish system of things with it's temple!

4ward4:
Lol, what heck are you quoting..go read exactly what you quoted and stop been a baby christain who thinks using his feelings, thereby allowing a particular man who claims he is off God feed fat off him.
Like I said, Give alms, contribute in building a church and spreading the goodness is of more importance and exactly the will of God.The pentecostal Scam will soon fall off and the truth will reign.

Guy i'm not a misinformed churchgoer so read with wisdom before quoting, in my own place of worship we don't pay tithes i'm only here to enlighten churchgoers about what they're paying for that's not a Christian requirement!

Happy are your men, and happy are your servants who stand before you constantly, listening to your wisdom!​—1 Ki. 10:8.

News of the peace and prosperity enjoyed by the Israelites under Solomon’s rule reached the queen of Sheba. That sovereign from a distant land traveled to Jerusalem to see the situation for herself. (1 Ki. 10:1) After inspecting Solomon’s kingdom, she said the words above. But the conditions under Solomon’s rule were just a taste of what Jehovah will do for mankind under the rule of His Son, Jesus. Jesus is superior to Solomon in every way. Solomon was an imperfect man who made serious errors in judgment that eventually brought hardship on God’s people. Jesus, on the other hand, is a perfect Ruler who makes no mistakes. (Luke 1:32; Heb. 4:14, 15) Christ has proved that he will never sin or do anything that would harm his loyal subjects. It truly is an honor to have him as our King. w22.12 11 ¶9-10

Today's Daily Text

Zannix:
Tithe is just 10%...you still have 90% left. You can help the needy and bless your parents from your 90%!

Tithing ended with the Mosaic laws it has no place in Christianity!

Questionnaires:
For Only Deep Minds: Why Did God Create Satan?

God didn't create a Satan rather one of the perfect spirit sons of God chose to rule over others and in his bid to achieve his aim turned into a slanderer (Satan)
So God didn't create a Satan just as no mother gave birth to a thief but the child grew up and became a thief due to greed!

Geovanni412:
Methodist church didn't start paying tithe until the 1980's

And they had many wealthy members

Tithe has no correlation with making money

Don't listen to any pastor who says otherwise

Bro Max, how are you doing. Much respect to your JW mission.

Tithing has nothing to do with CHRISTIANITY!

fabian063:
I'd rather see it as the human body is God dwelling place than a building. He told us that when we don't help and comfort those around us, then we are not comforting him Matthew 25:42-45

Misinformed churchgoer issue!

The church doesn't mean a building rather it's the congregation of Christians as in gathering of Christians. That's what the spiritual temple means.

Questionnaires:
It's A Direct Question.
The Way You Put Things Make It Look Like "INTELLIGENT PEOPLE" Are EVIL AND SELFISH PEOPLE.
The Bible Records It That Everything God Created is GOOD.
So, Where Did This INTELLIGENT PEOPLE Get Their EVIL And SELFISHNESS From if Not From Their Creator ?
So, For Everything To Add Up Well; I Want To Know Correctly Who Created These Evil Intelligent People ?
God or Satan ?

So what about the intelligent and good ones?

Questionnaires:
I love the quotations when used Rightly.
They are Triggers That I Read Through To Know Whether They Correlate With Your Points.
Who created These Intelligent Beings ?
God or Satan ?

Hmmmmmmmm what sort of question is this?

4ward4:
Owning him, because God needs your money?
To many Jokers ,practicing what they have no indebt knowledge about...
Do charity, Support Church building and Missons, that their is Doing God's work.

Sorry this is about those who wants to do the will of God not just everyone! 2Thessalonians 3:2

fabian063:
And the Bible made us to know that the human body is the house of God

NO!
It's not the human body rather Jesus and Paul were referring to the congregation as a body it means the church of God.
A Christian is not that temple but a gathering of Christians that's why Jesus said where two or three are gathered in his name he will be there {Matthew 18:20} the gathering means God's temple where Jesus must not be missing. Luke 2:49
Thanks!

NPFLADMIN:
Hmmmmm. That's true.

No wonder Jesus called Him the "TRUE God" John 17:3

DeOTR:
Jesus only talked about helping your poor and needy neighbors, but never mentioned tithing not even once.
What do you think of Matthew 25:36-46.
It's OK to give to your Pastors to advance the ministry of God, but if you're doing so, ignoring the people who might need it more or the less privileged whose life depends on it, you no doubt belong to the group on the left side.

Exactly so don't call it TITHE because tithes has nothing to do with Christianity!