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MightySparrow:
To prevent religious predators, know what they know.

But Kumuyi told Deeperlifers not to read any of our publications while he keeps following our publications bumper to bumper and you call him your daddy in da lord.

MaxInDHouse:
No one is fighting you the point is Kumuyi supposed not to be reading a book he forbids his followers from reading. Simple!

MightySparrow:
As a security expert, you know that the first rule of security is know your neighbours. He should read to be able to recommend what to read to us his followers nah!

So what exactly do you believe?
Is it that others like Kumuyi should read what religions around you believe then make the decision for you or that you should read for yourself?

MightySparrow:
To prevent religious predators, know what they know.

But Kumuyi told Deeperlifers not to read any of our publications while he keeps following our publications bumper to bumper and you call him your daddy in da lord.

cornelboy:
You think you said anything worthwhile lol 😂😂
O boy keep assuming o.
I'm only begging you to stop mentioning me, no be by force na.

Not even a single response from me i know he's begging for it! Luke 16:24-26

abbasstory:
Your faith is a testament to your commitment. May God continue to strengthen and uphold you brother

Amen in Jesus name!

Ken4Christ:
How does marketing books make you a thief? Besides, I am offering it far less than the market value. What is your problem?

If you want to sell any book it's OK but books on church entrepreneurship ọmọ i will tell you again and again that it's totally unscriptural!

Oooooooolllllleeeeeee!
Thief!
Barawo!
Onyioshi!

Janosky:
That FAITHLESS miscreant made a FALSE claim in the same manner that you Advocatejare made a FALSE claim.
TUEH!

The faithless miscreant can't know the value of a DPA so there's no reason responding to him, if he truly wants to know let him go and ask Serena Williams what that card means!

Mercisharelove:
You are so sound, is there anything that you need?

YES!
I need you to join God's people today to do the lord's work with millions of other faithful servants of God because i will love to see you when God's kingdom comes in Paradise on Earth! Luke 23:43

MightySparrow:
Dó you mean these?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RgApS18UkA?si=msu3q6owfNtifdpG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOfDTkV6v10?si=uTcLhsgsEguLxd-v

This is what makes you a faithless miscreant!

When two supposed ministers are contradicting themselves one must be right while the other is wrong but when you choose to welcome both without verifying which of the two is actually working for God then it means you love deceit yourself.
So i ask you again:
Between Oyedepo and Kumuyi who is the servant of your God?

MightySparrow:
No iota of hope for the Jews?

As long as the inhabitants refuse to welcome the Christ and his teachings the wrath of God remains on JERUSALEM!

“Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the killer of the prophets and stoner of those sent to her—how often I wanted to gather your children together the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings! But you did not want it.  Look! Your house is abandoned to you. For I say to you, you will by no means see (PEACE) from now until you say, ‘Blessed is the one who comes in Jehovah’s name" Matthew 23:37-39

As long as Jerusalem continue to fight against the name of the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} the city will never know PEACE!

Oooooooolllllleeeeeee!
Thief!
Barawo!

MightySparrow:
As a security expert, you know that the first rule of security is know your neighbours. He should read to be able to recommend what to read to us his followers nah!

Stop deceiving yourself Deeperlifers don't see Oyedepo pikin as their brethren because their pastor doesn't recognize your Papa.
As for security all believers must be reading themselves after all you and your friends always say JWs should research themselves so how can you stupidly say the above?
Àbí you've forgotten what you and your friends used to say on this forum?

LordIsaac:
“Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem; they shall prosper that love thee!” Psalm 122:6. Hence, God bless Israel (Amen).

When this Psalms was penned down Jerusalem represents the center of pure worship so the blessings of God was upon that city but after Jesus was executed in that city with the blood of all faithful servants of God {Matthew 23:35-36} CURSED is that city and all the inhabitants until Christianity is fully approved in that city {Matthew 23:37-38} they actually brought the wrath of God upon that city and it's inhabitants by telling Pilate that Jesus' innocent blood should come upon them! Matthew 27:25

Wujio:
Jehivah witness and the assumption of having superior knowledge. If only you exercised some caution as humans do, then you wpuld be shown your flaws and you would find healing for your soul. Dont bring your thrash cult ideologies to me. Stay far

It's OK then you will keep what you know while we also keep what we know.
Thanks for your time!

MightySparrow:
This one doesn't call for fight nah,

No one is fighting you the point is Kumuyi supposed not to be reading a book he forbids his followers from reading. Simple!

ayomidefavour:
True;
I read about the verse some times ago and Pastor Adeboye is not God neither is he Christ ...

When you call someone "PASTOR" but ignore his counsel it's a sin on your part!

So instead of calling the man PASTOR it's better you refer to him as "Mr" in that case you won't incure God's wrath upon yourself because God's word said:

Be obedient to those who are taking the lead among you and be submissive, for they are keeping watch over you as those who will render an account, so that they may do this with joy and not with sighing, for this would be damaging to you. Hebrews 13:17

Calling Adeboye by the title "PASTOR" means you acknowledge him as a servant of your God therefore ignoring his counsel is the name as disobedience to God's Holy Spirit that chose them to lead you! Matthew 12:31-32

ayomidefavour:
We can marry within Christianity;
Also;
JWs are Christians too

Christians must have the same line of thought according to Jesus and Paul! John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10

So all the religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines are not Christians but different religions hiding under or disguising with the group name "CHRISTIANS" 2Corinthians 11:14

You need to know the one and only organization of those practicing what Jesus taught!

ayomidefavour:
Yeah;
I have told him several times but all to no avail;
The Lady keeps crying ...

The first rule in marriage:
Never marry someone out of pity!

When considering marriage you must think of a friend that you can trust as long as you live, now this is where WISDOM comes in because to make someone your friend you must consider what motivates his or her thoughts since that is what will determine his or her next line of action, apostle Paul defined faith as the assured expectation of what you're hoping for the evident demonstration of reality that's not seen. Hebrews 11:1
So if your spouse is a Muslim surely what that religion teaches will be the driving force behind his or her action and if you're not on the same page then you're on your own when crucial matters arises. Proverbs 22:3

MightySparrow:
I THINK the fellow is lying only if there's another version.

It's good to THINK well before responding to people's comment books like Qur'an are for sell but REASONING FROM THE SCRIPTURES is neither for placement nor for sale so whoever has a copy must either be a JW or have JWs as family members.
The point here is not how Kumuyi got it but why being in possession of a book published by the organization he always called satanic.
Adeboye can never tell his church members not to read the Quran because they will see the difference between the writings themselves but Kumuyi warned his followers strictly not to read anything from Jehovah's Witnesses yet he is reading a book published by the same organization.
That's a matters of real concern!

Mercisharelove:
Which book introduced love?

The word translated (LOVE) in Greek is in four categories:
LOVE: strong bond based on family relationship.
LOVE: strong bond based on friendship.
LOVE: strong bond based on sexual attraction.
LOVE: strong bond based on unconditional feelings.

The last is called "AGAPE" in Greek this type of love is what we feel for anything that may or may not reciprocate.

The Bible says:

"Beloved ones, let us continue loving one another, because love is from God, and everyone who loves has been born from God and knows God. Whoever does not love has not come to know God, because God is love. 1John 4:7-8

John a first century Jewish disciples of Jesus said this because he could remember when Jesus told them:

“For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life." John 3:16

The WORLD in this context means inhabitants of planet earth among whom billions don't even know the God who offered to sacrifice His only begotten Son for their salvation so whether they will reciprocate or not this God has offered His Son to pay a huge debt that's causing the death of all mankind! Psalms 49:7-9

That's the unconditional LOVE a God we don't know has shown the entire human race because everything He does is motivated by LOVE!

God2man2again:
About 40 different authors wrote the Bible of 66 books in different locations over a period of more than one thousand years.

The men aren't authors of what they penned it was someone else who inspired them to write it down:

And the One seated on the throne said: “Look! I am making all things new.” Also he says: “WRITE, for these words are faithful and true.” Revelations 21:5

God is the author He used those men just as a director or CEO would use his secretary to get some information typed or writen! 2Timothy 3:16 compare to 2Peter 1:21

BadPanda:
I see that you've done your research.
We can agree that the 144,000 people have a special role to play in God's Kingdom in relation to Christ Jesus. And that the Great Crowd of people are separate from the 144,000 and are those who survived the Great Tribulation. But please consider this with me...
Rev 14:4 says that in order to be among the shortlist they will have not defiled themselves, Virgins, as it may and unblemished.
Do you know that the Bible also shows how just about anyone could fit this criteria?
Isaiah 1:18 shows that in order to become "white" clean, unblemished as it were, all you need to do is go to Jehovah God in prayer and set things straight with Him. Through the ransom sacrifice of Jesus Christ, this is made even more possible. Thus, even a hardened criminal can find it possible to meet the criteria as long as he is Cleansed (forgiven) and the sins "blotted out" and "forgotten". Thus becoming Virgins. Proverb shows that the end is better than the beginning. So do God's will till the end and if God chose you that shows that you are qualified to join the shortlist.
In other words you don't have to be a virgin to be among the 144,000. As you know, when reading the book of Revelation, you cannot take everything in a literal sense. More are symbolic or figurative.
These are the people that were chosen by Jehovah to rule as kings and priests with his son Jesus. (Revelation 20:4c,6)
More proof, when Jesus had his last meal with his disciples, before his death, in Luke 22:29,30; Jesus made a new covenant with his disciples for a kingdom that they will share with him in ruling.
And Luke 12:32 Jesus calls those who will rule with him "little flock".
John 10:16 shows the many millions of people who are not part of the "little sheep" and calls them the "other sheep".
It is like Nigeria now, we have the capital city Abuja. This is the center for political affairs of the country. The political arrangement is made up of elected Representatives from different parts of the country, to serve the President and the State in ministering. They are made up of about 4000 members. This is what makes the country function as a country.
So too, under God's kingdom, Representatives are chosen from different parts of the Globe. And they will represent the Earth as it were as and Rev. 20:6 says, rule as kings and priests.
The others which are called the great crowd in Rev. 7:9 are said to be standing before the throne and the Lamb just as Hebrews 12:18-24 shows the Israelites on Mount Sinai approaching "the city of the living God, heavenly Jerusalem, and myriads of angels". Thus indicating that standing before the throne and the Lamb does not necessarily mean they have to go to heaven first. The same way you don't have to go to Abuja to stand before the President in 1st October.
The saying should be taken in a figurative sense.
He truth is my friend, the earth, this physical universe, has always been our destined home and you cannot change that because God does not change, nor does he lie. Isa. 55:11 says that purpose he sends out will not come back without result. It will find true success.
Isa. 45:18 shows that Jehovah did not create this earth simply for nothing, but made it to be inhabited.
Psalms 104:5 and Ecclesiastes 1:4 says that the earth is not going anywhere. This earth will remain forever. And, as God originally purposed since Adam and Eve, we will continue to fill the earth and subdue it until God's purpose is fulfilled.
So, the many millions of people still living have that hope in mind.
And the many billions of people who are already dead are waiting for Jesus' voice when he will finally do what John 5:28,29 said.
When they are resurrected to the new world, they - all those who did not get the chance to know and worship God will finally get that chance to do so. Imagine those that lived when the Europeans never came to Africa. They'll finally get that chance. And this time, no opposition from Satan and his Demons. Because as Daniel 2:44 says, God's Kingdom will stand forever.

Jesus is truly the greatest teacher ever!
Hmmmmmmm this is a sign of competency!

oladapoa1:
REQUIREMENTS TO MAINTAIN THE PATH TO
You need to be poor in spirit. Matthew 5:3
Totally submitting to the rulership of Christ. Hebrews 12:1-2
Beware of false ministers. Matthew 7:15 Matthew 24:24, II Corinthians 11:3-4
You need people with the mindset of Joshua and Caleb. Numbers 13 and 14

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Wujio:
Revelation 14:3 and 7:3,4 tells us that there will be a shortlist of people chosen to be with Christ in heaven. 144,000 people!!! shocked shocked shocked

Accurate knowledge of God's word will be of help here.
God never created Adam and Eve to live with Him in heaven so there's no reason taking the descendants of Adam to live there. Psalms 115:16
The King chosen by God to rule over this planet is Jesus of Nazareth he is the one who made an appeal to his father that those that will be chosen among humans to rule with him should be granted a Visa to stay with him in heaven. John 14:1-3
Jerusalem is the place God arranged for those that will rule over the earth to stay {Isaiah 2:3} but the Jews polluted that city by killing God's servants {Matthew 23:37-38} can you imagine them telling a pagan that the curse of killing an innocent servant of God should come upon them and their yet unborn generation? Matthew 27:25
Jesus foresaw this and began telling his disciples bad things that will happen to Jerusalem this made them devastated that's why he told them:

Do not let your hearts be troubled. Exercise faith in God; exercise faith also in me. In the house of my Father are many dwelling places. Otherwise, I would have told you, for I am going my way to prepare a place for you.  Also, if I go my way and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will receive you home to myself, so that where I am you also may be. John 14:1-3

Those granted this privilege will no longer live as humans, no need for genders so they won't marry because flesh and blood can't live in heaven they will be transformed into angels. Luke 20:34-36

BadPanda:
You know my dear, if you looked a little deeper into the Bible, you will realize that many people who Dream, Disney world fantasize about going to heaven will be very shocked to realize that they never even stood a chance of entering heaven.
Revelation 14:3 and 7:3,4 tells us that there will be a shortlist of people chosen to be with Christ in heaven. 144,000 people!!!
Read it yourself and really ask yourself if you would make the cut.
And who told you that people who go to heaven will just be dancing and singing praises forever? Though singing praises is the norm in heaven (and even with God's creation on earth), that is far from he only thing that they will do there.
Revelation 20:6 says that they will "be priests of God and of Christ, and they will rule as kings with him for 1000 years".
That obviously means that those going to heaven will have a lot on their plate when they ascend to heaven. (Good and satisfying work I presume )
In Matthew 20:23, Jesus said that the decision to choose who will go to heaven is not in his hands but in his Father's.
So please don't worry about if you're going to enjoy heaven or not. You likely won't make it.
But hey, don't fret. Acts 2:34 says that even King David, the man agreable to God's heart did not go to Heaven.
Heck, John 3:13 tells us that as of the time that Jesus was speaking, no man has ascended into heaven, not even ABRAHAM has gone to heaven except for the one who came down from heaven, Jesus Christ.
You may wonder then, 'where are the rest of the good people going to? Hell??'
There are many Bible portions that tell us exactly where good people are going and I encourage you to do your own research on the matter and check only authentic sources to find it.
But I'm not going far, just read Proverbs 2:21, Psalms 37:9,11&29.
There they show exactly where the good or meek people will be: On Earth. "And they will live forever on it".
Jesus himself confirms it in Matthew 5:5 where he said that the meek will inherit the Earth. Jesus even called those who will inherit the Earth happy.
So in case you're not that interested in Heaven, know that you still have a great chance to enjoy life, not on this wicked system of things ruled by Satan the Devil, but in the Cleansed world that God promises to have us inherit that is ruled and priested by God's Son and his 144,000 priests and co-rulers.
Do you know what grand blessings will await those there?
Isaiah 65:20-25; 25:8; 33:24; John 5:28
And many other Bible portions point to what enjoyment we will see when God's Government comes and rules the earth.
Read the Bible yourself.
If you don't see it in the God's word the Bible, it's deception.

Your comment is so long but filled with points, can you try working on summary?
Most people often found it really difficult reading lengthy comments so to help them it's best you apply the speech counsels (14) found in the apply yourself to reading and teaching.

I am Maximus one of your brothers.

cornelboy:
The bible say wffey unbelievers, I don't know what's wrong with these guys.
For example why would a JW marry from another "Christian" denomination when their beliefs are different?

Apostates just want to contradict wise counsel found in God's word, at least Adeboye also told his members to marry only in the church (RCCG) and the man gave an indisputable reason:
"it will be easier to help when both spouse are looking up to the same G.O. for counseling"
Once you find anyone blindly criticizing what is clear like this then know that he or she is an apostate. This is a clear evidence that Emusan is no other person but the same Achorladey the apostate.
He thought i'm going to start arguing with him so he could start saying:
"other Christians this, other Christians that"
I simply set a trap and he ran into it so easily now let him mention his so called "other Christians" who despises the interpretation of Nigerias Daddy G.O. in Christendom!

Raylight2:
I have a question from Luke 16:19 on the Rich Man. With the many years this man has spent in hell, do you think he should be used to the conditions of hell already? Or he hasn't still adjusted? Can one adjust to the conditions of hell over time?

Jesus was using a parable not a literal story!

My favorite musician today is Kizz Daniel:

I want to chop potatoe ~ he-he#

Emusan:
Reason why you didn't quote it in full. "A wife is not free as long as her husband lives. If her husband dies, she is free to marry anyone she wants, if he is a Christian."
That verse is for widows.

https://www.nairaland.com/1065851/pastor-adeboye-dont-marry-outside#12430363

[quote]These are his words.. live on DOVE TV.

Don't marry outside this church! Unless you're blind (men), we have alot of good girls in this church. Reasons : if troubles come up later, we can easily call the family to order..but God help you if you marry a lady with another G.O ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JhRHSSV0OE?si=0wM2TG-BIBtCOTvK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ubGtY54uKk?si=WiBBVUO18kJIVIEF

Now you can argue with those claiming Christians at least not only JWs say so.

Jesus Christ said a lot about the last days but if you're not a studious scholar many things will confuse you.

The reason behind Jesus' ministry is the gather faithful people throughout the earth under one umbrella {Isaiah 2:2-4} that's what Jesus' ministry must accomplish as the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} all the prophecies about the last days will come to fulfilment when those accomplishing what is written in that prophecy regarding peacemaking {Micah 4:3} are found in all the earth! Matthew 24:14 compare to Act 1:8
Surely they will be outnumbered by people who are only calling Jesus Lord Lord but not ready to make peace {Matthew 7:21} Jesus said only those doing the will of his father will be allowed to live forever! Matthew 7:22-23

Can you see the group that's making peace in all the earth without using weapons today? Matthew 5:9

If so then the end is closer than the time Jesus of Nazareth and John the baptist said:

The kingdom of heaven is at hand! Matthew 3:2; 4:17

That nation has been CURSED!
The one and only reason why that city called Jerusalem remains till today is God's promise to David he must be resurrected in Jerusalem where all other faithful Kings were buried apart from that Jerusalem would have been long forgotten.

Btruth:
Not self-control but Spirit control

Each time you say no to self and yes to God, His Spirit comes to your aid and empowers you. By choosing to obey God instead of your impulses, you activate the power that brings victory.

Both has different meanings!

Self control is what makes a believer do things that's befitting of a disciple so as a disciple of Christ Jesus each Christian must continue to examine himself if he's still one of Jesus' disciples. Ephesians 4:24

Spirit control is what keeps the disciples as one together in doing the work Jesus assigned to his disciples! John 17:22

So to be sure that you're spirit control ask yourself:

With which group of people am i doing the work of the Lord?

Ants are tiny little creatures if you observe one going about you can only see that it's a living thing but when they're working together as a multitude that's when you will see the glory of God as those tiny creatures work together for a meaningful purpose.
Similarly that's how the spirit of God controls believers working together in doing God's will! James 2:18-24

abbasstory:
Thank you for the profound reminder that our salvation is in Jesus' loving hands, and He is the way, the truth, and the life. John 14:6
This underscores His centrality in our journey toward eternal salvation and when we entrust our faith to God, we are following the path paved by Christ's teachings, sacrifice, and grace. Thank you

Well i said that because Jesus authoritatively told a dying man beside him:

"Today you will be with me in paradise" Luke 23:43

He also told a disciple:

“I am the resurrection and the life. The one who exercises faith in me, even though he dies, will come to life; and everyone who is living and exercises faith in me will never die at all. Do you believe this?” John 11:25-26

Finally Jesus resurrected after dying for three days and said:

“All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth." Matthew 28:18

Certainly this man has the final say, i will forever do whatever he ask me to!