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Arda1000:
there's no proof that any church or religious organization are chosen people. All religion are man made you can only deceive yourself. God if it/she/he exist certainly do not have a religion

Well that's your own PERSONAL opinion Sir.

The true God has a religion He approves if you want to know we will show you how to IDENTIFY God's Chosen people.

Dtruthspeaker:
Only a mad jw demon is mad enough to say contradiction is "wide way" whereas every normal reasonable person knows that the wide way is about fornication, adultery, drunkenness etc

FOOL!

Characteristics of broadway is ability to switch lanes as each lane connotes different ideas that misinformed churchgoers have today but a path simply means no opportunity to switch to another lane: same line of thought!

The topic of this discussion is about how to gather worshipers but you are against such idea because you don't want to see anyone as a man of God worthy of teaching you yet you're here to argue.

FOOL!

johnw47:
Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. most dum lost false jw mad max
john used the past tense "was" because he was talking about the past: "in the beginning"
was the Word, etc.

OLÓDO!

This is what John meant:

The Word's existence began In the beginning of creation {Colossians 1:15} the word WAS with God creating other things {Proverbs 8:22-31} and the word served as GOD in the midst of humans just as Moses served.

If the word is GOD John wouldn't have used past tense to describe the same person he wanted us to know as GOD the past tense signifies something different.

For instance we can say about Nnamdi Azikiwe that at the birth of a country named Nigeria in 1914 WAS Zik and Zik WAS one of those who struggled for the independence of Nigeria and Zik WAS the President of Nigeria.

Does that makes Zik Nigerias president presently?

NO!

@ BenedictAbajue
Check the below thread and see if something worthwhile is there for anyone claiming Jesus is GOD.
What the scriptures said:

In the beginning WAS the Word, and the Word WAS with God, and the Word WAS God. John 1:1
From my own understanding the word is Jesus Christ who once served as GOD in the midst of his contemporaries just as Moses also served as GOD in his lifetime! Exodus 7:1
So we can rightly say both Moses and Jesus WERE (NOT ARE) GODS because they only served that purpose due to the power confered on them by the Almighty God not that they are GOD.
That's why John could use the past tense (WAS) instead of present tense (IS).

https://www.nairaland.com/4122154/did-jesus-forget-he-god#61503658

NASTYNASOSO:
DID JESUS FORGET THAT HE WAS GOD WHEN HE MADE THE FOLLOWING STATEMENTS IN THE BIBLE ?
(1) Mark 12 v 29 : The Lord our God is only one God.
(2) John 20 v 17 : I am ascending onto my father and your father, onto my God and your God.
(3) Mark 15 v 34 : My God My God, why has thou forsaken me ?
(4) John 5 v 30 : I Jesus can do nothing of myself
(5) John 14 v 28 : My father is greater than I
(6) John 12 v 49 : I have not spoken of myself, the father who sent me gave me the commandments of what I should say and spoke onto you. (7) Mark 13 v 32 : Of that Day and that Hour, no one knows, not even the Son, nor the Angels in heaven but only the father
( John 17 v 3 : This is life eternal that they know you the only true God and Jesus whom you have sent
(9) Matthew 23 v 9 : Do not call any one your father here on earth for only God in heaven is your father.
(10) Luke 4 v 7-8 : Get away Satan for it is written trou shall worship the Lord thy God, and only him shall thou serve.
COMMENT ; I quoted these few biblical verses from the sayings of the Holy Man of God whom the Christians called their God. This is the very Man the bible called the Prophet of God in Luke 24 v 19, Luke 7 v 16, Luke 13 v 33, Matthew 21 v 46, Matthew 21 v 10-11, John 9 v 17, and Mark 6 v 4. This was the very Jesus the bible says he ate and drank in Matthew 11 v 19, Luke 24 v 41-43, John 19 v 28. This was the very Jesus the bible says he slept in Matthew 8 v 24, This was the very Man the bible says he worshipped God, prayed to him and even cried seeking his assistance in Matthew 26 v 39, Hebrews 5 v 7. Finally, this was the very Man the Christians generally believed that he was helplessly killed by the Jews and Roman Soldiers in Israel,. How then can such a being be the Almighty God that created the universe ? It is not only untenable to call Jesus God but it is theological confusion to even think that Jesus is God. (Jesus) that was born by a Woman (Mary) , who depended on the factors of growth and reproduction. This was the very Man that the Bible says in Luke 2 v 21 that he was circumcised in his foreskin (genital) when he was eight days old.Now how can we call him God. Waiting for objections, corrections and comments.

BenedictAbajue:
Here I Am

I asked you to quote a publication of Jehovah's Witnesses where it's written:

The world will end in so and so year.

That's all.

What faithless miscreants don't understand is that each time the end time signal come right from the day of John the baptist it keeps on brightening the hope of faithful people and the FAITHFULS are pressing forward with strength {Matthew 11:12} while the FAITHLESS are idle as they keep on demanding for visible signs they will never see {Matthew 12:39; 16:4} so they won't do anything since what their demands will not be given them.
But the FAITHFUL and DISCREET are like watchmen always AWAKE on the WATCHTOWER of course no right thinking citizen agitates when the watchmen are raising alarm regarding what they sight approaching because we know they're there for our good in this darkest moment of mankind's history! Joel 2:31 compare to Revelations 6:12

BenedictAbajue:
John 5:18
For this reason therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God.

Philippians 2:6
Although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped



In the New Testament of the Bible, there are several verses in which Jesus alludes to his equality with God. Here are a few examples:

John 10:30 (NIV): "I and the Father are one."

John 14:9 (NIV): "Jesus answered: 'Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'?"

John 5:17-18 (NIV): "In his defense Jesus said to them, 'My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I too am working.' For this reason they tried all the more to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God."

You see this bolded one ehn...if you say Jesus is not God then you are the same as the Jews who hated Jesus and wanted to kill him for so-called blasphemy

The highlighted below is what i want you to QUOTE in the Bible.

BenedictAbajue:
Yeah but Jesus said He is equal to the Father . An Angel would never claim that unless if it's a satanic one.

If we are to believe Jesus then we must believe the bolded.
If we have two supernatural beings who are equal to each other, who then should we worship?

If i say Jesus is Archangel Michael you won't welcome comparisons rather what you will insist on is where it's written in the Bible.

So quote where Jesus said he is:
EQUAL TO [=] THE FATHER

What i remember is where Jesus said the FATHER IS GREATER THAN [>] Jesus! John 14:28

I hope you still remember those signs in Maths!

Bossdave:
Says a Freemason.

Cultists calling others "CULT"

mtngloetiartel:
I know. I hope he will join us in calling on the name of Jehovah.

Hmmmmmmm.

Romans 10:13

mtngloetiartel:
I will let the bible speak here
: At a meeting of the governing body in the year 49, the disciple James said: “Symeon [Peter] has related thoroughly how God for the first time turned his attention to the nations to take out of them a people for his name.” (Acts 15:14) This new “people for his name” included Jewish and non-Jewish Christians whom God formed into one nation. (Romans 11:25, 26a) Later, Peter wrote: “You were once not a people, but now you are God’s people.” Peter explained the purpose of this new nation by saying: “You are ‘a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for special possession, that you should declare abroad the excellencies’ of the One who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.” (1 Peter 2:9, 10)

You are speaking our language o! Zephaniah 3:9

Go and tell your gods that Maximus only sings the songs of praises to his God in the midst of his fellow believers not in BABYLON.

How shall we sing the LORD'S song in a strange land? Psalms 137:4

So in Rome we play along with Romans it's in the congregation of our God that we sing the praises of our own God!

I want to carry my love - he~he
To the place she loves - he~he
Ha my woman woman - he~he
I wanna press - he~he
Ode hu ode hu#
Ọmọ i feel like dancing at the wailing of faithless miscreants!

Oya
Funke - Pakurumo Pakurumo Koo jo dada
Kareema - Pakurumo Pakurumo Koo jo dada
Tolani - Pakurumo Pakurumo Koo jo dada#

WINDSOW:
The unclothedness of your teachings was buried in the encouraging Word of God. Please read . Please read Romans 16: 17-20 aloud.
Afterward say this simple prayer:
Lord Jesus Christ, I admit have been deceived with scientific illustrations and human interpretation of the inspired Word of God.
Please Jehovah, have mercy on me as I accept Jesus as my Saviour. Please I ask for the Holy Spirit to come into me. Thank you Father, in Jesus name, Amen.
Now go back to your former religion and tell them to repent of their wrongs and accept Jesus Christ. God bless 🙌 you. See you at the top!

Funny churchgoer!

Ọmọ Jesus IDENTIFIED his fellow believers in public despite the fact that almost everyone in Judea claimed they're worshiping the same God. Matthew 12:46-50

I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses.

What is the name of your own religion?

MaxInDHouse:
@ BenedictAbajue
How market?

Where is BenedictAbajue?

WINDSOW:
The same Jesus warned us to be weary of your soothing devices and human philosophy. Colossians 2:8. He knew your man-made religiosity will emerge so he forewarned us. 1John4:1-3 but I am not moved by your eloquent and polished grammatical presentations because 1John4:4-6

Good!
But your Jesus forgot to help you PRESENT the group that's doing his father's will just as he did in the first century shey? Matthew 12:46-50

Your own Jesus only warned you about false religionists but failed woefully to help you in identifying the group that's practicing what he taught!

@ BenedictAbajue
How market?

Last seen July 8

Please if you're still interested in knowing the answer let me know!

BenedictAbajue:
MaxindHouse oya answer this one
Since you people know the truth but refuse to say it. Please don't tell me all those your "it is not in the bible bullsh*t o"Cos any other source is probably something that was cooked up

Can you quote where Jesus expressly stated that he is EQUAL TO THE FATHER?

Mpanyi:
I can't stop laughing. The brainwashing is real.

Of course Jesus' disciples seems brainwashed before first century Jews when they declared that Elijah has come nah because the people were expecting Elijah in person while Jesus told his own disciples that Elijah has come.

Can you imagine how funny it will sound when John the baptist whom Jesus claimed is the Elijah to come {Matthew 17:10-13} emphatically said he is not Elijah? John 1:21

How do you think a Pharisee who heard John denied being Elijah will view Jesus' disciples who are claiming Elijah has come simply because their Master said so?

Ọmọ faith is not a possession of all kinds of people! 2Thessalonians 3:2

BenedictAbajue:
You declared a specific year whereas Jesus and John the Baptist did not

Quote a publication of Jehovah's Witnesses where it's explicitly stated that the world will end in year so and so!

Bossdave:
It's heaven's business, so you know. The profit we make is in terms of souls snatched from the pathways of hell. Our reward is the eternal crown that fadeth not away.

I'll advise you to desist from occultism and come to Christ!

Jesus for sale business!

Bossdave:
You've confessed that billions attend our churches, and that's true.jesus saves and is still saving. Freemason MaxinDHouse, everyone already knows your organization is a cult. You don't witness for Jesus but for the cult.

No wahala go and do your business!

Raf4:
Who are you to invoke God's judgement on someone? Be guided please.
Are you saying God instructed you to be selling ur WT/awake b4 but now instructed u not to sell it again? Stop pretending as if the era of selling and earning commissions never existed.

Did i tell you it never happened?
Come on, God's people realized that many are so poor that they can't even afford the literatures but they showed genuine love for the truth so instead of collecting money as value God's people concluded that whoever wants the books should be given freely..
Does that makes the master who corrected them wrong?
Note how he paid workers the same wage {Matthew 20:1-16} if you have once paid for a publication that shouldn't deprive others who needs it yet they don't have the money!

Mpanyi:
Your own version right? Your own make-believe. Well believe whatever you like, I don't care. All I care is you don't force it down one's throat as you guy normally do

I am sure you don't even have a copy of the Bible you're just a follow follow churchgoer!

Mpanyi:
And yours reduced it or increased it? Dumb answer.

Our Master Lord and King wasn't after quantity rather what he wants is quality.
So even if it's just 1 out of 1,000 in each street Jesus is not bothered! Matthew 7:13-14

Mpanyi:
He commissioned them about 2000 years ago and they didn't start work till 20th century, almost 2000 years later. What a commission commission! 😄

When Jesus commissioned the movement in the first century Satan swing into action and began attacking the disciples {Revelations 12:17} that's what Jesus foresaw when he said:

"when the Son of man arrives, will he really find this faith on the earth?” Luke 18:8b

Because Satan will use all the power he had to disrupt the movement and so it happened.

So when Jesus returned in the year 1914 there was not a single group practicing what Jesus commissioned back then, as a mighty spirit king Jesus began moving from one religion to another until he found a group known as the International Bible Students Association (IBSA) unlike others this group is ever willing to make amendments in their understanding of God's word so Jesus started correcting them just as he did with few Jews that availed themselves for his teachings in the first century.

17 years later and the group is ready to start performing up to expectations just as it was prophesied in God's word that people will come from all geographical locations on this planet to agree on what is written in the Bible and they will use the Bible to resolve all their disparities peacefully among themselves divert their resources into production of food and information materials, erased the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

That's why the true God approved us and began calling us by another group name JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

Ọmọ you can never ever find another group achieving what God's people are doing today all you can do is form alliance with atheists, agnostics and faithless miscreants to criticize God's organization!

Bossdave:
Watch MaxinDHouse and his fellow satanic jws very well. They don't preach Jesus. They only preach their cult organization. They do not witness for Jesus. They witness for the cult to fill the pockets of their demon possessed GBs with more cash.

Bossdave:
Why don't you drop your WhatsApp contact. People who have no signature wouldn't be able to see your signature. That's a Nairaland rule. I'll like to contact you as a person but I can't see your signature since I don't have one.

Thief!

Nobody will fall for your business centers you are calling church today!

BenedictAbajue:
I cannot go online looking for specific date bro. I'm not that dumb. You could have asked me for specific time too. SMH How would I look for something that may not have ever existed. One thing is certain and it is contained in the pics below. You cannot tell me this one is a lie too

So Jehovah's Witnesses are the real followers of Christ since we don't declare a specific date but keep announcing the same thing Jesus announced!

Mpanyi:
Your master your master everywhere. Who is/was that your master?

Don't you have a copy of the Bible?

Mpanyi:
And the movement he commissioned was you guys? 😆

That's why you don't know how over 41,000 different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines are claiming Christians today.

Ken4Christ:
But JW don't witness for Jesus. To witness for Jesus is to let people know that he died, was buried and rose again on the third day.

That's exactly what we preach and teach as the assurance that resurrection is sure for all those who put faith in Jesus Christ.

It's you who is thinking of how to monetize it that failed to listen!