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Ashawoman82:
you an ya dogma, u will never see the logic behind this reasonable post, only to argue blindly..kindly respond sensibly to the post..why would u love secular music but hate Christian gospel song with passion.one of my closest friend is a witness so I know what am saying .

Those songs are WORST than Zazzu and Naira Marley but since you don't know how to detect spiritual poison it will be difficult for you to understand!

Geovanni412:
@maxindhouse, na true?

100% true!

Dtruthspeaker:
Exactly how he has gathered you jws!

So that we are more than you faithless miscreants shey?
Ọ̀DẸ̀.
Satan is the god of this world and he has gathered billions of faithless miscreants under your trinity madness yet you people can't agree on the same definition! 1Corinthians 14:33

No sane individual will hate his own country or people that's living on the same soil with him however lots of things has gotten out of hand.

When God helped the Israelites to secure the land of Canaan and promised them lots of blessings it wasn't automatic rather they're to work towards such promises with faith in God.

But the Israelites turned against God's word only to start looking into the sky for the blessings they don't deserve that's why God told a prophet:

“As for you, do not pray in behalf of this people. Do not cry out in their behalf or offer a prayer for them, for I will not be listening when they call out to me because of their calamity." Jeremiah 11:14

When Jesus of Nazareth walked the earth many Jews in the first century thought he was Jeremiah reincarnated {Matthew 16:14} WHY?
Because Jesus refused to pray in behalf of his nation and the people this led his own disciples to ask him to teach them how to pray for themselves {Luke 11:1} Jesus never prayed with or for anyone not until he observed that his twelve apostles stick firmly to the message he taught them! John 17:8-9


So today it's not bad to pray for your country but if you're directing such prayers to the Bible God think of what this God said:

"The one refusing to listen to the law —Even his prayer is detestable" Proverbs 28:9
Remember Jeremiah and Jesus of Nazareth who is called the only begotten Son of God because these are the examples of faithful servants of the Bible God. 1Corinthians 10:11

Even in the first century Jesus never promised betterment for the nation in general rather the PEACE he brought will only be with those that accepted his message! Matthew 10:13-15

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

johnw47:
Job_15:12  Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at



lost false jw mad max

so you are saying that trinity came about from all Christians/all of Christianity:

Christendom. / (ˈkrɪsəndəm) / noun. the collective body of Christians throughout the world or throughout history. an obsolete word for Christianity.


you very dum, aren't you

Now i know you're just obsessed with Maximus so there's no need responding to your madness!

Janosky:
The Polytheist who worship three persons wants to pray for Jehovah's servants?
Bros,Please free yourself from DELUSION.

Ọmọ even in their prayers they're confused because each of them have his own version of trinity so which one are they praying for JWs to adopt?

Oteneaaron deceiving himself with two accounts!

From:

Courz:
WOW!! So it's really true that Jehovah's witnesses are tied to freemasons.

To hundreds of posts about JWs being CULT.

Even a toddler knows that if you're not the same person your first comment on this thread supposed to be:

"I know before now" or
"I always tell people"

Not

"Wow! So it's true"

Now they've all left your thread for you only for you to continue encouraging yourself by posting the same pictures over and over again after saying "Wow! So it's true"

So who are you deceiving with the two accounts if not your very self!

Aemmyjah:
How can [b]tri[/b]nity be singular?
Na wa o
Chelsea football team is also He na? Are they not driven to serve 1 purpose?

The truth is that TRINITY is what over 41,000 different sects are trying to define till today!

If you ask Deeperlife, RCCG, Winners Chapel, MFM, Chosen, Foursquare, Apostolic, Presbyterian, Catholics, C.A.C and many others to define TRINITY you will find out that all of them have contradicting opinions about this god they worship.

So Bossdave is lyingly deceiving himself!

johnw47:
when someone in a thread that you and i both posted in said:

"Jehovah sucks my big prick daily", you said nothing at all,
whereas i myselh had a lot to say

Madman!

Must i always follow whatever people say?
It's you who claims you're here to expose lies so stop cherry picking and siding with someone who outrightly called your god Jesus FAKE!

cornelboy:
I understand that when a man leaves his parents and join to his wife, they become one. But does that mean that they've turned to the same person?

There's nothing like Trinity in the Bible. Jesus, his apostles and early church never believed nor taught the dogma.
They believed that the Father (Yahweh) is the one true God and Jesus is his son whom he sent.
John 17:3, 1 Cor 8:5,6, John 20:17. Acts 2:36.

Jesus and Father are one just like the way an husband and wife are one. They are in perfect unity. John 10:30, 17:21,22

Your friend doesn't know the origin of trinity so tell him to make his personal research into how the churches of Christendom came about the dogma after all the word TRINITY no dey inside Bible!

That one is easy, go to Traditionalists they have what is called "AWỌ́RÒ" powerful charm to attract gullible and innocent crowd. If Jesus needs that he won't have suffered in the hands of his own people neither his disciples many of whom also died in the hands of their own people they would have used such a technique to win the hearts of their own people since they love their nation much more than you do today.
But Satan the god of this world {1John 5:19} knows exactly what to do in gathering billions of people! 2Corinthians 4:4

johnw47:
someone saying Jehovah is a demon, has never been part of my posts
it's was you changing the subject/running away from truths that i posted:

Madman!

If you're here truthfully to EXPOSE lies then you supposed to be concerned when someone outrightly said your God JEHOVAH and JESUS are fake.

https://www.nairaland.com/7464041/pagan-christ-book-review

The above thread belongs to your friend oteneaaron (Courz) he said Christ is a pagan god!

Unless if you're not really sure of your God!

johnw47:
Ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorn bushes under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool
lost fraud jw janosky everyone loves showing up you liars, some of us just don't do it as much

Janosky:
To open threads on JWs nah him lifelong obsession.

Johnw47 is the worstest idiot on this forum!

Even though Oteneaaron (Courz) directly condemned Jehovah and Jesus the idiot won't say anything about that but each time he will be quoting whatever a JW says claiming it's lies!

johnw47:
no one said to me my God is a demon,

Wèrè!
Is Jehovah your God or not?
Oteneaaron (Courz) said Jehovah is a demon so go and tackle that with him before coming to spew gibberish here!

ANormalHuman:
I wonder oo...
Later he'll say I was the one trying to indoctrinate him, meanwhile I asked this same question that Sand2022 is asking...
I noticed he started quoting scriptures and dropping his small advert at the end...
I countered his scriptures, he left my explanation and the entire scriptures aside and started explaining a backstory that wasn't recorded in the Bible and still kept on advertising. Like mehn! Your salary must be really high, to the point that you can't discuss scriptures without planting subliminal messages that point us to your organization.

My faith is not about just quoting the Bible but also to direct whoever feels attracted to my comments to the one and only organization practicing what i'm explaining.
So if you're not interested no one is forcing it on you go and worship the god you understand i am worshiping the God i understand and He is not interested in those you call INNOCENT rather what He cherishes is the FAITHFUL!
I will continue to rub it on your face until you stop talking about me!

@ Sand2022
Hatred may blur the sense of judgement but it is wise to be open-minded in delicate cases like this! 1Thessalonians 5:21 compare to Act 17:11


What we found written in the Bible today were INSPIRED through God's Holy Spirit so it's not possible to find errors in what was inspired but regarding how the first century practiced Christianity YES they committed lots of blunders in understanding and applications {Act 15:1-5} but God's Holy Spirit was there to correct them that's why each time something goes wrong in the way they applied what they knew the Apostles comes together to pray over the matter so that God's Holy Spirit can direct them! Act 15:28-29

The GOVERNING BODY today weren't inspired like them so the same errors that happened in the first century due to imperfection cannot be avoided but one thing is sure:

God's people are doing His will today globally as One big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

The simplest case ever on this planet!


Has God's people ever had PERFECT understanding of God's word?

NO!

Have they committed blunders in their understanding?

SEVERALLY!

So what makes them different from unbelievers?

They are ever willing to comply with God's will once they're able to grasp it so JEHOVAH never condemn the faithful no matter their blunder so far they're ready to make amendments.

WHY?

Because God's people are imperfect just like all other descendants of Adam!

As a father shows mercy to his SONS, Jehovah has shown mercy to those who fear him. For he well knows how WE are formed, Remembering that WE are dust. Psalms 103:13-14

Note that David didn't make this PERSONAL as he often does in other Psalms rather he was talking about God's people as ORGANIZED WORSHIPERS!

Weretuntun:
I do not beleive in curse and prayer without action will work,

Curses or Blessings none can WORK without the action of the one Cursing or Blessing you.

So when you pray you must WORK towards what you're praying for because it's your effort that God will bless if you're not working you haven't given God anything to bless.

As for curses it has become OBSOLETE because God's only begotten Son said it's no longer tolerable before God today! Luke 6:27-28

May you have PEACE!

Only FAITHFUL individuals will understand how God's people operates no FAITHLESS miscreant can grasp what is happening!

Has God's people ever been perfect in their understanding of God's word?

NO!

The only PERFECT servant of God is Jesus of Nazareth because he is not ordinary human.

As for all imperfect servants of our God from Abel till today none of them has perfect understanding of God's word but one thing is sure JEHOVAH always acknowledge His people for doing His will despite their imperfection.

That's the HERITAGE of God's people as for our RIGHTEOUSNESS don't kill yourself it's from our God JEHOVAH! Isaiah 54:17

Unah go cry tire!

The first century apostles of Christ weren't perfect in their understanding yet despite their imperfection they continue doing God's will because God's Holy Spirit which is the helper Jesus promised was WORKING with them.

That's the truth.

So instead of contemplating on the blunders God's people committed what any studious individual needs to ascertain is the will of God in our time that's what Jesus said his faithful disciples will be able to do always he never said they will have perfect knowledge!

Sand2022:
Flip flop among the apostles? I mean moving from doctrine A to B and then returning to doctrine A? Where in the bible did you ever see such a thing among the apostles? Show me. If that is an evidence of holy spirit leading, sorry for you.

Perhaps you have forgotten that the Holy Spirit was sent to continue the work Jesus did among imperfect humans:

"And I will ask the Father and he will give you another helper to be with you forever" John 14:16

Jesus is the PERFECT helper guiding IMPERFECT humans to do God's will so the Holy Spirit has come to replace him therefore don't think their understanding became perfect after the Holy Spirit came:

"For we have partial knowledge and we prophesy partially" 1Corinthians 13:9

Do you want to tell me that Apostle Paul don't know what he was saying in the above or the Holy Spirit has not come to teach them?

it will only continue to guide them into all truth just as Jesus was CORRECTING them anytime they needed it. John 14:26-27

So what will be the EVIDENCE that God's Holy Spirit is working with them?
They will be able to continue doing God's will despite their imperfection and errors because God's Holy Spirit is there with them guiding them always! Act 1:8 compare to Proverbs 24:16

That's why i keep asking you to present the group that's performing better than Jehovah's Witnesses if truly you know the WORK of God's Holy Spirit!

ANormalHuman:
I wonder why it pains him so much, I'm glad I made it obvious. Is this how he expected to win me over to JW...? Lol.

Did i know you for anywhere?
NO!
Did i quote you to chat with you?
NO!
Who first quoted between you and i trying to change the mindset of the other?
YOU!
So it's you who wanted to change my beliefs after reading my comments about Jehovah's Witnesses being the one and only organization practicing Christianity.

Here is your comment again.

ANormalHuman:
I want to learn, I think it is you who thinks you've learned all and every other person now needs to learn from you.

So i don't know you and neither do i want to know you it's you who is trying to change my mind over what i believe!

Ó mà ṣeo!
Over 12 hours now and no further contribution as JWs are no longer available on the thread!

MaxInDHouse:
Now watch how your friends who has come to distract you from reasoning with Jehovah's Witnesses will leave your thread stylishly since they purposely came to distract you not to make any meaningful contributions.
Farewell my friend and may you have PEACE!

Madman!

Who is running away from you?

Dude you have nothing reasonable to say if you do go and tackle the person who said your God is a demon not me talking about my own beliefs!

johnw47:
Job_15:12  Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at


lost false jw mad max

run, run, run, run, run away:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

Today it's estimated that there is over 41,000 different religions all claiming CHRISTIANS today!

What Jesus commissioned wasn't different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all claiming worshipers of the same God rather all his disciples must have the same line of thought! John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3

So if you find different religions claiming they are DENOMINATIONS it's a lie from Satan the God of this world {2Corinthians 4:4} he is the one who oversew weeds (false religions) among the find seed Jesus purposely planted {Matthew 13:25} you need to find out the group preaching, teaching and practicing what Jesus commanded among all these religions! 1Thessalonians 5:21

johnw47:
show up one or two of your lies,

Idiot!
Oteneaaron (Courz) said JEHOVAH is a demon is that true?
Answer me!

To fully grasp what Jesus meant in that verse you need to consider three things:
[1] The theme of his message which is God's Kingdom or God's government.
[2] The requirements of being a citizen under God's kingdom.
[3] What you need to know about the One who sent Jesus (Father) what you need to know about the messenger (Jesus) and what you need to know about the spirit uniting citizens of God's kingdom as One family (Holy Spirit)

Jesus preached about the benefits obedient mankind will enjoy when God's kingdom comes so he instructed his disciples to always pray for it instead of struggling to install human government!

Jesus taught his disciples that under God's government all citizens must have love among themselves so whatever disparities or mistake committed by a prospective citizen must be overlooked when the wrongdoer admits his or her error and life continues.

Jesus emphasized that his father is the owner while himself is the heir to his father's throne but after his departure God's Holy Spirit will help his true disciples to continue in the things he taught them as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers.


So if someone comes to you today in the name of either Obasanjo or Jonathan or Buhari or Tinubu what will come to your mind?

Is it the spelling, meaning or pronunciation of these names?

Of course what will ring a bell in your heart is how they ruled and what was attainable under their rulership.

That's what Jesus meant when he said:

"Baptizing them in the name of the father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" Matthew 28:19

That's why he adds

"Teaching them to observe all that i have COMMANDED you" Matthew 28:20

Because whoever doesn't know what Jesus taught regarding his father, himself and God's Holy Spirit can never be saved!

johnw47:
sewer mouth, lost false jw mad max most dum and paranoid one, my post wasn't to oteneaaron but to courz, and your paranoia is forever oh most fearful one:
rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.and my post wasn't about anyone saying that Jehovah is the name of a demon,
you false jw's are always very confused and lying, aren't you:1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saintsJoh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.my post was about you mad max, teaching that Jehovah is not all powerful, and that Jehovah is not all knowing,
it was about you saying Jesus deceived thomas, it was about you saying that jw's are not christians while others jw's say they are christian, you very dum, aren't you

Idiot!
What exactly makes you follow me up and down as if i took your bread?
Is it not what you call "the truth"?
Oteneaaron (Courz) said JEHOVAH is a demon and instead of you to stop and think about that you left him only to continue chasing me
If you're in your right senses why not correct him on that first before thinking about JWs who has refused to pally with you?

HYPOCRITE!

ANormalHuman:
Let him get over it... He should relax with a cup of cold water and think of what he has achieved so far here on Nairaland. I think he's achieved the opposite of what they sent him to achieve.

They're already infecting you!
@ 12:27am you're still talking about Jehovah's Witnesses!

Jesus was sent to save the entire planet with his teachings but how many among his people who listened to him were saved?
Just a few!
Ọmọ i'm not here for quantity (innocent) but quality (faithful)

ANormalHuman:
When I asked you questions you ended up saying other things, twisting explanations and leaving other parts unanswered...
But yet you are always itchy yo reply me whenever I quote someone else. In case you think I didn't, I heard you loud and clear and I have to intention of mentioning you again. I'm pleading with you to do the same. There are other vulnerable people you can brute force, not me. By the way don't sound silly, me not saying it doesn't mean I don't know enough about your bizarre organization...
You don't qualify to give me sleepless night bro, I'm beyond that. The worst that can happen is a buildup of anger — the kind of anger that comes when you see overly hypocritic, stoopid and gullible people.
And yes, I don't need that anger. Anger kills. Now kindly get out of my mentions.

O boy tell your friends the truth:

They are killing themselves over JW matters and you've noticed the way they're going nuts!

ANormalHuman:
With much knowledge comes much grief... Let me manage the little I know first, I don't want to get a heart attack while digging deep into another man's mess.

Ọmọ fear dey catch you shey?

You don't want to have sleepless nights over JW matters like your friends!

It's OK to ignore JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES at least my friend has learned two things from me on his thread:

[1] Jehovah's Witnesses hold Paul's letters with high esteem so if any other religious sects take Paul for granted never think JWs do so Paul is our brother in Christ one of the anointed.

[2] Kobojunkie is not one of Jehovah's Witnesses though my comments has really influenced her so if you're not really observant you will take her for a JW but all JWs believe in the organization of God none of us think outside the group whether to seek fellow believers or to isolate himself, we are One globally!