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Emusan:
You know this but stand in position of God to judge.

Point of correction!

Jesus didn't judge anyone he was only telling his listeners what his own God will do to those who aren't worshiping Him.
The same is what JWs are doing today we only talk about what our own God JEHOVAH will do to all none Witnesses.
So if your God is not our God then you should have no problem with that just conclude in your mind that the God of Jehovah's Witnesses is not your own God. Period!

advocatejare:
show me where I made such an agreement you opuro

Ó ṣì ń rìn ẹ́ ní kòì tíì já ẹ jẹ!

advocatejare:
Oh, are you referring to yourself as a criminal because you know that best describes you?
Anyways, show me where I made such an agreement you opuro

Ó ṣì ń rìn ẹ́ ní kòì tíì já ẹ jẹ!

advocatejare:
Revelation 21:8
“But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death."

That solves the case!

God will judge not you so obey Jesus if truly you are one of his friends by withdrawing your CURSES he COMMANDED his own disciples not to CURSE! Luke 6:27-28

advocatejare:
Show where I made an agreement with you!

So you mean you're interrogating a criminal shey?
Ọmọ no let HBP kill you o.
If you're not ready to answer me then keep your beliefs to yourself!

Emusan:
Answer my question first!
Are you fighting for your God?
Lying liar.

Ó ṣì ń rìn ẹ́ ní kòì tíì já ẹ jẹ!

advocatejare:
May the wrath of God descend on you if you can’t quote where I made this statement of lies that you ascribe to me!

The venom of powerful demons has failed woefully to harm God's servants not to talk of the curse in the mouth of faithless miscreants! Isaiah 54:17

What is the name of your church?

What is the name of your God?

advocatejare:
he doesn’t want to learn from me, why then was he asking me questions?

Because our agreement before you started this thread is a discussion not interrogation.

So if you ask me and i also asked you there's no crime the person that's pained most should be the one to take the lead in answering!

Emusan:
Yes I say and I'll say it again, I'm not fighting for God.

Can you explain what "Christian soldier" means according to Ephesians 6:11-17

Janosky:
Isaiah 43:10,21( ASV) JEHOVAH FORMED JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES HIS CHOSEN SERVANTS.

Jesus said @ Matthew 12:15-18.
Matthew 12:15-18, JEHOVAH God made Jesus his Chosen Servant.
Jesus Christ is a Jehovah's WITNESS.

Jesus said @ John 7:16

"So Jesus told them, “My message is not my own; it comes from God who sent me."

Advocatejare confused by Trinity.

Ọmọ if any of them wants to learn about our God and beliefs they must beg for it not this arrogant manner. Each of them have his own belief and they're not in agreement:

advocatejare claims he believes Jesus his God so he is angry with JWs who didn't acknowledge Jesus as their God.

achorladey claims he is neutral so he can't say he's not worshiping the same God with JWs yet he's always criticizing Jaws.

Emusan say he believes in both Jesus and Jehovah as the same person but he doesn't want any group to claim they know better.

Oteneaaron (Courz) is playing face off saying JEHOVAH and JESUS are FAKE with one moniker but with the other moniker he's saying Jesus is God and Jehovah is Satan.

So none of them wants to mention the name of their church so that people won't know they are lying because they have to explain what the doctrine of their church says and why they are having a different mindset.

Now the funniest thing is how all of them are denying that they're here to FIGHT for their God yet they're using their time, energy and resources (data) day and night on Nairaland religion section!

jaephoenix:
Do you JWs have a problem against using dictionaries. I notice you, MadMax and 2 other JWs always get your definitions wrong.
The literal definition of “atheist” is “a person who does not believe in the existence of a god or any gods,” according to Merriam-Webster. He or she doesn't reject or oppose the notion of a creator. Learn to use what's left of your destroyed brain

So the highlighted knows it all shey?

Ọmọ atheism says "there is no God" few are people who are SAYING it but many are those ACTING it.

Action speaks louder than words.

So to identify an atheist it's not just by what they say but their actions.

I know this is really paining you as you can see that it's an indisputable fact!

jaephoenix:
Really? That word is an idiom? Please explain how that verse is an idiomatic expression

The most common weapon in Jesus' day is the sword and it's used when there's a dispute so when Jesus told his disciples to make sure each of them have his own sword they brought out two whereas they are eleven in number, for Jesus to have said it's enough shows that they didn't get the sense of what he said otherwise two swords can't make up for eleven men if each should have his own!

Back in old school days we always chant saying:

"Solidarity for ever, we shall always FIGHT for our right"

Of course we weren't FIGHTING with literal weapons rather we used the rule of law to which both those in authority and their subjects should bow.

That's what Jesus is telling his disciples to make sure each of them have in his or her possession the sword of the spirit which is God's word! Ephesians 6:17

It was later after they got baptized by the spirit that they fully grasp most of the things Jesus spoke in idioms! John 16:12-13

Obviously your aggression will not allow us to flow but it's OK hold onto your opinion.

May you have PEACE!

DaddyCoool:
I don't know how telling someone who seems ONLY capable of repeating to use his own head, how that is an insult. But I guess we differ on that.
Soo, how many people who were standing there died before the transfiguration? Answer that one. Christ was obviously talking of something that would happen in the distant future and that SOME standing there would even STILL be alive to witness it. Clearly, he wasn't refering to the transfiguration, which happened right away.
As for JohnTB, you were even trying to say he didn't know who he was - that he was literally Elijah! When clearly he knew enough to know he was not literally Elijah, which you were implying was what Christ said!

helinues:
Once in a while. That guy has been doing the scamming for almost a decade on this forum.

That's exactly what i mean!
If the moderators are still doing their job such shouldn't be but you know Nigerians nah it's only the money aspect they're after that's why nothing is working well with Nigeria!

advocatejare:
What is purpose of your questions for me if not to learn from me?

I asked because i'm not under duress to answer you!
I only responded to my friend (zoer) before you said you want to learn from me.
Do you still remember?
So if truly you want to learn then answer the question i asked you or remain in your ignorance i no hungry about your own religion nah you dey hungry about other people's religion!

https://www.nairaland.com/7817790/founder-jehovahs-witnesses-organization
Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah's Witnesses Organization?

https://www.nairaland.com/7815508/muhammad-claimed-only-allah-knows
Muhammad Claimed That Only Allah Knows Certain Things, It Turn Out To Be False.

https://www.nairaland.com/7814010/dihya-ibn-khalifa-al-kalbi-one
Dihya Ibn Khalifa Al-Kaibi, One Of The Companions Of Muhammad Is Angel Jezreel

https://www.nairaland.com/7707675/desperation-islam-how-umar-peeped
Desperation In Islam, How Umar Peeped At The Unclothedness Of Muhammad's Wife

The problem most religionists claiming Christians today have is lack of knowledge about Christianity!

Unlike all other religions that people just invite their neighbours and told them there is solution to their problems Christianity is about an ongoing work that a first century Jewish man assigned to his disciples {Matthew 28:19-20} he promised that God will support them by means of Holy Spirit to accomplish this great task! Act 1:8

So a Christian is one who has been preached to and taught all the things Jesus commanded his disciples to do regarding their assigned duty, so that he or she is fully partaking in the work.

Anyone who doesn't follow this process is not a Christian at all!

DaddyCoool:
What abusive language?? If you call telling someone to use his own head abusive language it indicates having issues.
What context? Same speech, same place, same audience. What context?? You know the context better than people who were there!

Right from your first mention of me you've been abusive so calm down and reason like a liberal person.
Jesus said two things there:
[1] How he will come and destroy all evildoers just as the scriptures foretold.
[2] Some of those standing there will see him in that magnificent glory as confirmation of what he just told the crowd.
So Peter in his letter to the congregation told them how himself, John and James saw Jesus in his magnificent glory during the transfiguration! 2Peter 1:16-18

DaddyCoool:
John the Baptist was John the Baptist, NOT Elijah, and he said so himself. But he was Elijah in another sense, NOT in the literal sense you were implying!

Your hastiness is the problem!
I never said John is Elijah but Jesus so we know that both characters are separate individuals so what Jesus meant is that John has played the role of Elijah who is to come!

It simply means out of all the species made one should be an intelligent creature that can also CREATE things like a demigod among the other creatures.
Humans have transformed this planet with lot of innovations like electricity, automobile, telecommunication, aircraft just to mention a few whereas all other species can't think of any improvement even the way they build their nests, they have all remained the same way they are till today!

May you have PEACE!

cornelboy:

You don see them finish sir

Ọmọ i really enjoyed myself yesterday throwing them against one another!

Imagine Emusan who always argue from one thread to another, his colleagues commending themselves that they should keep up the good works now said he's not fighting for his god!

advocatejare:
Create threads for those questions after you have answered mine that you have been evading since, then mention me and I will answer you

I Maximus create thread because of you!

Ọmọ nah you dey hungry and thirsty to learn from me there's absolutely nothing i can learn from you so if you can't answer then leave it! Matthew 21:23-27

DaddyCoool:
OK, 2000 years later you know better than those who were there and heard directly from Christ, including all the apostles and St. Paul! Okay o.
Read again the full quotation below. Do you honestly think "Come in his Father’s glory with his angels and reward each person" was refering to the transfiguration. Use YOUR OWN head sometimes!

The context differs!
@ verse 27 Jesus is talking about the time he will come and destroy all evildoers but @ verse 28 he is referring to the sign some standing right there will see as evidence that truly he is the one who is coming to do all these things as written in the scriptures.
Please stop the abusive speeches true Christians don't go about abusing people when matters like this arises we reason together as believers.
Peter later talked about the magnificent transfiguration as the evidence that everything Jesus said about himself is sure! 2Peter 1:16-18

DaddyCoool:
And by the way John the B said emphatically he was not Elijah, see below

John is not a perfect man so he can't perfectly grasp the role God is using him to fulfil but Jesus God's son knows everything about the scriptures that's why he told us that John is the Elijah who is to come.
Do you know that John was confused about the identify of the Lord Jesus Christ?
John later sent his disciples to ask if Jesus is truly the Christ {Matthew 11:2-3} yet he heard God's own voice confirming that Jesus is the Christ! John 1:32-34
So did John the baptist fully understood the scriptures and it's fulfilment?
The answer is NO!

DaddyCoool:
Yet you know better than the same apostles who witnessed it and heard directly from Lord Jesus, yet were still waiting for the event. And you know better than first disciples who were waiting for it. And what then was St. Paul refering to when he wrote this:

Jesus was talking about the transfiguration!

His disciples saw him and believe that he is the Christ that day, they even asked him how come the scriptures say Elijah will come before him {Matthew 17:10 compare to Malachi 4:5) he told them that Elijah has come in the person of John the baptist {Matthew 17:11-12} so it was meant to prove to those tree apostles that Jesus is undoubtedly the Christ they've been expecting for centuries.

As for wrong expectations among them it's true. For instance Jesus said something but they misquoted him thinking John will never die until Jesus return! John 21:20-23

So regarding what he said that day he was talking about the transfiguration which some of those standing namely Peter, James and John witnessed.

DaddyCoool:
What claim?

What Jesus meant is transfiguration which only three of his disciples witnessed! Matthew 17:1-9
You said it's another thing then that means my opinion against yours no one is lying until it's proved scripturally.

Your saying someone is lying is mere claim!

DaddyCoool:
Like you likewise teach there are no contradictions in the Bible. As I've told you, God doesn't need you lying, thinking you're helping Him. He doesn't need that type of help!!

According to first century Jews and 99% Jews today Jesus is a LIAR so if you don't know what justifies Jesus as a true teacher then you have no clue what a lie is in this case!

It's not by saying someone lies but having a living evidence to back up what you're saying.

What evidence apart from mere arguments do you have to back up your claim?

DaddyCoool:
Stop deceiving yourself. Everybody knew Lord Jesus being transfigured was not the event they were waiting for. See my post above

I am telling you what i and millions of zealous preachers and industrious teachers of God's word believes so stick to your opinion i'm not here for you!

DaddyCoool:
Pure nonsense. You are all wrong and being deceptive. The lady is actually right asking the question - early disciples also asked the same question because their close friends and fellow disciples were dying without experiencing this stupendous event everyone was awaiting.
EVERYONE, including the apostles, understood it to be something in the FUTURE!

Jesus said:

"Some among (not all) those standing"

"Truly I say to you that there are some of those standing here who will not taste death at all until first they see the Son of man coming in his Kingdom"

So it's James, Peter and John that saw Jesus been transfigured meaning this is the one whose voice will bring back all the dead!

Caveatemptor:
I have called you out several times. I repeat YOU ARE A FRAUD! YOU ARE A FALSE TEACHER! YOU ARE A LIAR!!!

Thanks for the compliment! Matthew 5:11-12