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achorladey:
Keep the lamentations going.

The funny thing here is how the both of you two apostates one saying Jesus is a myth and the other saying he still believe in Jesus but both of you are exjws.

Now ever since i've been on this thread i have not quote anything from what the Governing Body say rather i've been consistently quoting what i am convinced of in the Bible.

So who made the Governing Body their God?

Is it Maximus that has never quoted anything from them or the both of you that can't remember anything to back up what you want to say except quoting the Governing Body?

Oh i forgot the other guy even said the God of Abraham sef nah fake talkless Jesus.

IṢU ATA YÁN-AN YÀN-AN

YAM PEPPER SCATTER SCATTER

achorladey:
Not to expose my wicked heart abi?
Lies and manipulations will never stop.

Is it not after they've seen the truth about God's organization that they can see the wickedness in the hearts of those criticizing God's people?

achorladey:
And you are lamenting over it the reason you decided to call Mayowa

YES o!
For him to come and witness the gathering of SCOFFERS! Psalms 1:1
Someone said Jesus is a myth:

https://www.nairaland.com/7006256/jesus-real-myth-challenge-maxindhouse

You say you're a Christian:

achorladey:
As long as you know that church means when 2 or or or or 3 gather in my name. They don't have to even call themselves by one name or the other to be known. They are already gathering in the name that is above every other name.

yet both of you covered that under your rugs only to form alliance against Jehovah's Witnesses.

Herod Antipas and Pontius Pilate! Luke 23:12

achorladey:
You must save your head and the head of your GODS at all cost
Is he gathering in the name of MaxInDHouse? Chai

At least he's on the same page with you! Psalms 1:1

achorladey:
Carry whatever you are missing that you are selling to somewhere else. I am not buying MaxInDHouse. Is that clear?
I am not gathering in the name of MaxInDHouse. That is as simple as ABC for the person who pride himself as an intelligence officer should understand.
Whenever you like to deny your GODS do so. Whenever you decide to spread lies and manipulations about them do so. The floor is always open.

I said it earlier nah, it's for the benefit of sincere and honest hearted followers of the thread.
Now they can figure out why there are so many religions (gathering of imperfect humans) all claiming Christians but just one PERFORMING as written! Matthew 7:16-18

oteneaaron:
How can I LIKE this post a million times?
Just in case you missed it, the the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses are their GODS -
G - GUARDIANS
O - OF
D - DOCTRINES
These are exact words from their GOD'S:

Where is Mayowa?

Come and see what i was telling you about the gathering of scoffers {Psalms 1:1} this is the person who said Jesus never existed o:

https://www.nairaland.com/7006256/jesus-real-myth-challenge-maxindhouse

achorladey:
Your religious organization does not and cannot determine what or who is righteous

This is what you're still missing!

The GOVERNING BODY is not the one talking here rather it's me (Maximus) that's showing you what the scriptures say about how to distinguish between the righteous and the wicked in the endtime.

I know you're not interested in knowing the truth but for the benefit of interested followers i will throw light into this.


Satan's agents have always claim they're also worshipers of the true God so it's difficult for anyone who is not diligent and faithful to know them.

When it comes to gathering for worship what most people assume is that they're going to pray for what they need or want from God but Jesus made it clear that whoever wants to pray for personal wants or needs don't need the gathering rather he should go into his or her private room to ask God privately! Matthew 6:6

So what is the purpose of gathering together in Jesus name?

This is about how to carry out the task Jesus assigned to his disciples {Matthew 28:19-20} so Jesus will join such a gathering {Matthew 18:20} with the intention of directing them with God's Holy Spirit on what they want to do for him! John 14:15-17

Malachi told us that God will send His angels to pen down the names of those doing His will {Malachi 3:16} that's the job Jesus used God's Holy Spirit to commissioned at Pentecost {Act 1:8} so the gathering of wicked souls can never ever meet up with this task because Jesus will not join them they can only shout his name or deceive one another with signs {Matthew 7:21-23} Malachi said those PERFORMING in this regard will serve as identifying mark of the gathering of righteous ones {Malachi 3:18} so if some people gather and shouting Jesus name but aren't PERFORMING in this assignment their gathering is not for God's will.

Ọmọ that's what EAGLES like Maximus saw far away so we assembled around the BODY {Luke 17:37} which you are criticizing:

The governing BODY of Jehovah's Witnesses!

achorladey:
Chief, I don note your words. Thank you.

Light (truth) and Darkness (falsehood) can never ever be friends!

Do not become unevenly yoked with unbelievers. For what fellowship do righteousness and lawlessness have? Or what sharing does light have with darkness? 2Corinthians 6:14

So as long as you keep saying evil things against God's organization without presenting a better performing group you and i will always remain on opposite sides!

achorladey:
Myer knows MaxInDHouse is not Jesus dey make you boil again?

He came on his own so you're not his spokesman, let him talk for himself!

Myer:
Avoidance is what was stated here not condemnation

So we AVOID them by not welcoming them in our house nor greeting them just as the scriptures say.

It's them that are agitating as you can see!

achorladey:
One thing I know Myer knows 100% and can vouch all over the world on behalf of Myer is that
JESUS in letters, meaning and pronunciation of the word does not equate MAXINDHOUSE
Keep your legalistic and legalisms to yourself.
Na to make convert for your GODS not for Christ.

Let him use the scriptures to refute what i say.

You're not his spokesman.

I know Myer long before now and himself and i have never ever agreed on what true faith is all about so i'm ready for him to use the Bible to refute whatever i say.

This is why Isaiah said we (Jehovah's Witnesses) will condemn any tongue that rise against us! Isaiah 54:17

So you're not his spokesman!

achorladey:
Na you go tire ooooo. You cannot tell me what gathering in Jesus name means. I am not gathering in your name MaxInDHouse. There is nothing you can do to change that. Whatever you are selling regarding that, I am not buying

I'm not telling you but exposing your wicked heart so other interested followers can grasp what Jesus meant when he say:

"Gather in my name" Matthew 18:20

If i tell you that you don't know what Christianity is all about you will be quoting Watchtower up and down instead of thinking about how God's people are improving in their understanding of the scriptures.

Now you know that a former Muslim knows what Jesus taught than you because i stick to God's organization and moving with them!

Myer:
It depends on the circumstances of leaving though. But nonetheless, condemnation is not the gospel.

The first century disciples never preach for any to be condemned but whoever turn his or her back on the assignment Jesus gave us is no longer worthy of being called a brother in our midst:

“No man who has put his hand to a plow and looks at the things behind is well-suited for the Kingdom of God" Luke 9:62

So if anyone becomes one of us today he is our brother in Christ but once he decides to leave all what we need from him is to know a better performing group that's doing the job failure to present that then it means he or she is not fit for God's Kingdom.

No be Jehovah's Witnesses write am for Bible!

achorladey:
You that lie and manipulate scriptures will tell me the meaning of gathering in Jesus name
Myer come and see something. Na to brag how to flog or lash people you sabi. Whenever two or three are gathered in my name shikena.
MaxInDHouse no too tight your neck over this matter. I am not gathering in your name. You can only tell me what gathering in your name mean not that of Jesus. I am not buying your lies and manipulations.

If it's about praying for your personal needs Jesus told his listeners that each should go into his or her private room to pray for whatever their heart desires {Matthew 6:6} in fact Jesus assured us that even the wicked God do answer their prayers regarding personal needs {Matthew 5:45} so gathering together in Jesus name is not about praying for what you want but to deliberate on how to carry out the task Jesus assigned to his disciples that's why he promised to chairman such gathering {Matthew 18:20} as he always do when he was with his disciples! Hebrews 13:8

Myer:
This is scary. No one should be condemned for leaving any denomination/organisation.

That's what you don't know about the first century Christians!

Once you're no longer active in their midst they worry because they want each and every member to have treasures in heaven {Matthew 6:19-21} and the only way you can do that is by participating in the work Jesus assigned his disciples! Matthew 28:19-20

If anyone leaves as in disassociate himself then such a person must be SHUNNED!
Read Romans 16:17 and 2John 10-11

Ọmọ no be Jehovah's Witnesses write am for Bible nah the Apostles of Jesus!

achorladey:
As long as you know that church means when 2 or or or or 3 gather in my name. They don't have to even call themselves by one name or the other to be known. They are already gathering in the name that is above every other name.

LIE!

"Gathering in Jesus' name"

Means preparedness to preach and teach just as he commanded his disciples to go out there and do {Matthew 28:19-20} so if your gathering is not doing anything noteworthy in the society {Matthew 5:14-16} then Jesus has no business with your church {Matthew 7:21-23} that's why James said your faith that's jobless is DEAD! James 2:18-26

@Myer
In any country it's really difficult to fish out JWs once our organization has been banned but do you know what the exjws always do?

They are the ones voluntarily working with the police to catch JWs because they know so much about us and when the police arrest any JW it's this same people that will bring up different allegations against us in fact there is nothing they can't say just to see that JWs are deleted in the society.
So sometimes those policemen do get angry at the way they spread rumors against nice people so at times conscientious ones among the police treat them like scums due to their heartlessness!

Myer:
It's normal to break out of a church/organisation for one reason or another.
But it's important to find a church where your spirit connects with God.
We are urged not to forsake the assembly because there are some growths you can't achieve outside the fold.

Hebrews 10:5
Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching.

Do consider this. God bless you and yours.

It's obvious you don't know what trouble exjws are into!

Ọmọ they can't worship anywhere else!

They're demanding that Jehovah's Witnesses organization should to come down to their level so that they can fit in {Isaiah 35:8} go and read Psalms 1:1:

HAPPY is the man who does not walk according to the advice of the wicked And does not stand on the path of sinners And does not sit in the seat of scoffers.

Have you noticed how bitter these people are?

They can never ever be happy in fact they're ready to form alliance with homosexuals, lesbians, bestialists and any other practicers of sin as long as it's against Jehovah's Witnesses.

So they are no longer worshiping anywhere!

Deepspirituals:
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Sometimes I do think does these People think ,Do they have Conscience at all ,Do they have Human Feelings at all.

That is the more reason why you need to study the Bible with Jehovah's Witnesses!

Do you know why John the baptist was killed?

Well he was chosen by God to prepare the way for Christ Jesus' earthly ministry {John 1:23; Isaiah 40:3; Malachi 3:1} John started gathering repentant Jews reminding them of what the scriptures say about the saviour and warming them that if care is not taking most of them will loose out in blessings God promised Abraham's descendants which is coming through the Christ. Genesis 12:1-3
So many repentant Jews began running to him and he was baptizing them as a sign of their heartfelt repentance towards God's word.
After Jesus baptism John supposed to join Jesus' ministry but instead he continued his own ministry so his disciples told him that Jesus is also going about baptizing people {John 3:26} they felt Jesus shouldn't be doing that rather it's John who introduced baptism as a sign of repentance. John told them that Jesus' ministry will continue to increase while his own ministry diminish. John 3:27-30

Now as an imperfect human John felt really bad just as you're feeling right now regarding what is happening among politicians as they're behaving as if they don't have conscience or human feeling. One of them (Herod Antipas) snatched the wife of his brother and he began sleeping with her as his own while his brother is still alive {Matthew 14:3-4} this got John talking so he was arrested and imprisoned with chains, John expected Jesus as the Christ to come and deliver him so he sent his disciples to go and ask Jesus if he is truly the Christ or another one is coming! Matthew 11:2-3

You know the rest of the story so the point of emphasis is for us to be patient and ready to endure {Matthew 24:13} no matter what Satan and his agents are doing today {Ecclesiastes 4:1; 8:9} when Jesus is ready to bring his own government all politicians globally will be exterminated {Daniel 2:44} as well as anyone criticizing Jesus' orders! Luke 19:27

For the main time we are to continue gathering obedient mankind {Matthew 28:19-20} and preparing them for Paradise to come! Matthew 6:10

Thanks!

thinkmoney:
Please help me

Lol.
Jesus is the one and only helper, he will save us all!

Regarding the Identity of his real disciples Jesus said:

“Be on the watch for the false prophets who come to you in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. Every tree not producing fine fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Really, then, by their fruits you will recognize those men" Matthew 7:15-20

God told the Israelites how they can know false prophets in their midst {Deuteronomy 18:20-22} so to Israelites anybody whose prediction didn't come is a false prophet.
What about Jonah?
He said in 40 days Nineveh will be destroyed but that city lasted decades later!
So that sign is not for us but only the Israelites because Satan has the power to cause evil things to happen as well as seemingly good things and he can tell his agent to make predictions of what he's ready to do!

How do we identity Christ's disciples in our day?

Jesus talked about "FRUITS" this is something that can't be misconstrued.
WHY?
Because no tree produces more than one fruit so each tree has it's own unique FRUIT even though trees may have similar GIFTS.

Jesus likens himself to a tree planted by God {John 15:1} that means all the other religions should be viewed as trees too.
All the religions (trees) on this planet have GIFTS, beautiful worship centers, melodious songs, attractive festivals, faith healing and many more. If you're not careful such a religion when such a religion say they belong to Christ you will find it really difficult to doubt it.
So what fruit is expected of Christianity?

According to God's promises the earth will become a Paradise after the destruction of all evildoers {Psalms 37:9-11; Proverbs 2:20-22} so to prepare obedient mankind ready for the future blessings a global campaign must ensue that's what Christ Jesus commissioned in the first century {Matthew 28:19-20; Act 1:8} all those accepting Christ as King will form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers, they will use God's word to settle all their disparities peacefully among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, erased the making, buying, selling and usage of destructive weapons and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

That is the evidence that Christ Jesus who is the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} is WORKING with them! Matthew 28:20

As for anyone bearing religious title Jesus said they're not his disciples {Matthew 23:8} even though they claim they're performing signs Jesus said he doesn't know them because they're not doing the will of his father {Matthew 7:21-23} the will of his father is to make the world a better place and it's humans in this system that will put on the new personality that fits into that arrangement {Ephesians 4:22-24} therefore any religion whose faith isn't WORKING/PRODUCING this FRUIT is FAKE! James 2:18-26

May you have PEACE!

ErnestNc:
There are so many ..so many errors but I will stop here...

Perhaps you're the one missing the real deal! Jehovah's Witnesses's beliefs seems strange to you yet they use the Bible like their spiritual sword {Ephesians 6:17} they preach and teach zealously with industriousness just as Jesus Christ commanded {Matthew 28:19-20} they don't participate in politics {John 17:14} they don't have a part in military action {Matthew 26:52} they have real love for their fellow believers in all the earth {John 13:34-35} they love their neighbours and wish them well {Mark 12:31} they don't wish their persecutors any evil {Matthew 5:44; Luke 6:27-28} they're the most peaceful organization on this planet! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

Perhaps you're the one misunderstanding the words of the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} because if you truly know Christ Jesus you should be with a group whose FAITH is really WORKING like Jehovah's Witnesses! James 2:18-26

May you have PEACE!

Deepspirituals:
They should only Talk about Heavenly things

I know how hard it is to believe this but it's the truth none of all those men has anything to do with Christ Jesus!
According to Jesus Christians will continue to shine as illuminators {Matthew 5:14-16} as we represents citizens of God's heavenly Kingdom on this planet {Ephesians 5:8} in this world all what we expect is the worst conditions {John 16:33} because Satan is the one ruling this world {John 14:33; 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19} so all those people you're seeing in politics are his agents they're not Christians {2Corinthians 11:14} all the KILLING in politics they know the source because they're all on the same page! John 8:44

Real disciples of Christ are doing something entirely different from what most of you want.

We are forming a global family of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:2-4} we don't participate either in politics or military services because Jesus commanded us never to raise weapons against anyone {Matthew 26:52} so we must LOVE our fellow believers (throughout the earth) just as Jesus love us {John 13:34-35} we must LOVE our neighbours (people around us) like ourselves {Mark 12:31} the most shocking is that we must also LOVE our enemies (people who hate us with passion) as he commanded {Matthew 5:44} even though they wish evil for us we're to wish them well {Luke 6:27-28} Christ Jesus said that's what makes us children of his father who is in heaven! Matthew 4:48

Do you know any religion PRACTICING this throughout the world?
They are the REAL Christians not all these killers supporting the killing of their neighbours and fellow believers due to politics and racism!

I am Maximus one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

Myer:
That's why it is difficult for you to convince Max to leave JW. To convince him to leave JW, what do you have to offer that's better than what JW offers him?

When Jesus was talking about the narrow way to everlasting life {Matthew 7:13-14} his friends knew that no Judaist can qualify {John 6:68} but then they still question him because 99% of the first century Jews vilify Jesus' disciples {John 9:22} so they wanted to know what Jesus has to offer presently at least they need some incentives to keep them going even though their reward will be full in God's kingdom so they asked:

“Look! We have left all things and followed you; what, then, will there be for us?” Matthew 19:27

In reply Jesus said to them:

“Truly I say to you, no one has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for my sake and for the sake of the good news who will not get 100 times more now in this period of time—houses, brothers, sisters, mothers, children, and fields, with persecutions—and in the coming system of things, everlasting life." Mark 10:29-30

As one of Jehovah's Witnesses there is no place on this planet where JWs live that i don't have a home, brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers, children awaiting me there.
This is what exjws are missing so all what they are doing now is out of spite because they can never ever find such a global family anywhere else like Jesus' real disciples: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

So Jesus' words is crystal clear to all members of Jehovah's Witnesses organization that even though we haven't seen God nor Jesus nor the Paradise promised now at least we have what Jesus promised that we will enjoy before God's Kingdom comes which is our global family of peace loving worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4

So Mayowa know today that achorladey and all his friends will never answer that question because they have nothing to offer in replacement of God's organization!

thinkmoney:
What is it I am not sure of here?

Do you want to know how to IDENTIFY real servants of God today?

Christians have no business with the world! John 17:14

achorladey:
No longer agnostic Helter-skelter as usual.

I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
Myer is Mayowa one of Foursquare.
Achorladey is...........

achorladey:

Ji ma sun. Marketer of better performing performance group. The floor is open. At least you know I am not buying

You're an atheist so don't complain when i keep you in suspense!

achorladey:
Myer dem don dey brag and boast over your head. Chai Person that was running helter-skelter to hide his head and enjoy his cup of coffee is now lashing us

What is the name of your own religion?

Maximus is one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
Myer is one of Foursquare.

Achorladey is one of........

achorladey:
@ MaxInDHouse
Since when the faithful and discreet slave come to existent base on the teachings of your GODS

I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
Myer is Mayowa from Foursquare.

You are......

Janosky:
Isaiah 43:10,21 (ASV), Jehovah God is the founder of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES HIS CHOSEN SERVANTS.
Jesus Christ taught you he is a Jehovah's WITNESS, Matthew 12:17-18 & Revelation 3:14.

Don't you know Myer again?

I calmly address his case because i want to use him as a rod to lash all of them together.

Now he's scared of coming back because i've told him it's not about questioning me we are discussing so it's a cross examination!

achorladey:
@ MaxInDHouse dem don use manipulations and lies manipulate your thinking. You are aware that David Splane said there is no 1900 year old faithful and discreet slave.

OLÓDO!
Is 1914 not different from 1900?

Jesus returned in the year 1914 and it's from that time the faithful and discreet slave emerge!

achorladey:
True Christianity is not about preaching from door to door. Is that clear? No where in your Bible says true Christianity is about that. Thoss are your insanities peddling inherited from your GODS

Oleeeeeeeeeeee!

The one and only difference between Judaists and Christians in the first century is preaching from house to house and door to door established by Jesus of Nazareth {Matthew 10:11-13} all other Jewish religions also preach but they have no confidence to preach from house to house unlike Jesus' disciples who believes that their Master has been given all power in heaven and on earth!