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If Myer wants us to continue from there then i will also ask him questions about his religion: Foursquare! ![]() |
achorladey:Did true Christianity where disciples are preaching from house to house and door to door exist by then? ![]() |
Courz:If you're not mentally disturbed why calling someone mad just because he stick to his faith? Achorladey the real madman you refuse to label. I once asked him if he's worshiping the same God with Jehovah's Witnesses with all his criticism against Jehovah's Witnesses achorladey couldn't answer straightforward but beating about the bush. ![]() |
![]() achorladey:OK sir, so before you ask me any question be prepared to do like Mayowa (Myer) ![]() |
achorladey:Did i mention SUCCESSION? ![]() Ọmọ in every generation of Jehovah's Witnesses there is always a spokesman and none of them is perfect they are all fallible! ![]() |
Myer:You're talking to FAITHLESS MISCREANTS! You are Mayowa a member of Foursquare. Oya ask any of them to mention the name of their own religion. They don't even believe anything in the Bible! ![]() |
Myer:So JEHOVAH is the FOUNDER of His organization, Jesus is the one He used to establish it but imperfect Charles Taze Russell is the 20th century spokesman of the group. Just as it makes no sense quoting Peter but Jesus the same way Jehovah's Witnesses don't quote Russell we always quote Jesus. That's the difference between Jehovah's Witnesses organization and all other religions! ![]() |
ErnestNc:Hmmmmmmm, you really tried but let me take it up from where you stopped. The LOVE Christians should have among them starts from somewhere, first of all the predominant attribute of the one and only true God is LOVE {1John 4:8} that's why Jesus commanded his disciples to have LOVE for their enemies {Matthew 5:44; Luke 6:27-28} LOVE for neighbours {Mark 12:31} and LOVE among themselves! John 13:34-35 So how do Christians apply this quality in the practical sense? God has foretold centuries before Jesus came to the earth that in the last days individuals from different geographical locations on this planet will come together and form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers, they will use what is written in God's word to settle all their disparities peacefully among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, erased the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:2-4 This is what Jesus came to establish as a group so if any religion can't meet up with this then they're FAKE and they can't produce the FRUIT expected of Christianity! Matthew 7:16-18 ![]() |
ErnestNc:So how do true Christians apply what Jesus said in the Bible book of John 13:34-35 in a practical sense today? |
Myer:Good question! Jesus is the first and foremost WITNESS of the true God {Revelations 1:5} so all servants of Jehovah are following the footstep of Jesus. Before God introduced His first and foremost WITNESS He established a nation and made them a nation of priests and promised to establish another covenant with them {Deuteronomy 18:18} when Jesus walked the earth he appointed 12 apostles among his numerous disciples and a spokesman among them namely apostle Peter. This is the man Jesus used as the spokesman since he will leave the earth and return to him home in heaven. So when he returned in the year 1914 Jesus used Charles Taze Russell as his spokesman in the midst of a research group called International Bible Students Association back then. Just as Peter was an imperfect man Charles Taze Russell was also imperfect he served as the spokesman of Jesus' 20th century group. So if anyone is following Peter let them know that Jesus only used Peter as a spokesman in the first century Peter made a lot of mistakes as an imperfect human {Galatians 2:11-14} the same applies to Charles Taze Russell he made a lot of mistakes but just as Jesus used others to correct the mistakes of Peter in the first century he also used others to correct the mistakes of Charles Taze Russell in the 20th century. That's why i said Jehovah is the founder of His organization He used Jesus to establish it but over the centuries Jesus is using different spokesmen for his group and Charles Taze Russell was one of them! |
ErnestNc:The highlighted is interesting. So what is the FRUIT expected of Christianity? |
Myer:I love to know the true religion as my parents were Muslims, but some of my relatives are claiming Christians others are traditionalists and most times there's always one argument or the other so i decided to find the one and only true religion. Out of all these religionists only Jehovah's Witnesses are able to answer all my questions satisfactorily. But don't let's deviate from the first question you asked. Jehovah is the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses organization he used Jesus Christ to establish this group as the one and only organization that's doing God's will today! ![]() |
Myer:I'm Akeem. So let's proceed! |
Myer:If it doesn't worth it then forget it. But if it does then it's between you and i so may i know the name of your own organization? ![]() |
Myer:Before we proceed know that it's between you and i so erase the thought of many asking me questions while you and i discuss alone. Do you agree? Assuming you've agreed. I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses. So what is the name of your own organization? |
EDOSBROWN:Only the father (God) selects among adherents of His son's teachings {Matthew 20:20-23} so there is just one criteria: become one of the adherents of Christ's teachings. None of all those that lived before John the baptist qualified because they never had the opportunity to learn from Jesus how to rule with him in his kingdom {Matthew 11:11} but as for those who has learned from Jesus God selects among them while they rest enjoy everlasting life in Paradise on Earth along with billions of righteous ones! Matthew 5:5 compare to Psalms 37:29 |
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Do you care to know the IDENTIFYING MARK of true Christianity? ![]() |
Myer:First of all what is your own definition of the word FOUNDER? ![]() |
Myer:It's not about what i think but what really led to this thread! Advocatejare always talk about Muslims and i have once told him it's of no use because Christ taught his disciples to present the Good News of God's kingdom only that's what no religion has. But ever since then he started insulting me so i avoided him still he will follow me from thread to thread questioning me about my religion so i told him if both of us are claiming Christians then you must present your church to compare with mine. He refused so i ignored him. Then a friend of mine (zoer) commented on his thread so i explained (quoting my friend) that the God of Abraham has no business with Muhammad going by what the Bible say. Only for Advocatejare to start insulting me again so i told him not to worry because i only spoke for my own God so he can continue speaking for his own. Then he was talking about Charles Taze Russell being the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses organization that's why i told him not to derail the thread but if he truthfully wants to know who founded Jehovah's Witnesses organization he should start another thread so we can discuss better. That's what brought about this thread. I have proved that Charles Taze Russell is not the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses organization so if anyone feels like discussing with me further then it should be a friendly discussion of comparing what you have with mine! ![]() |
Maynman:OK Sir! ![]() |
Myer:The purpose of this thread has been met so if anyone wants to bring something different in then we must discuss like interaction not like you asking me questions while you won't answer me when i ask you! ![]() |
achorladey:The one and only intention of this thread is to know who founded the group called Jehovah's Witnesses! I promised to enlighten the OP about the real meaning of the word FOUNDER and afterwards prove to him that Charles Taze Russell is not the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses. This has been resolved so anything afterwards is just STORY STORY STORY! ![]() |
Myer:What really baffles me is how i told these guys my journey regarding religion. I was a Muslim before Jehovah's Witnesses came to present their religion, i compared what i had with what they brought and chose the one that's performing better from my own personal opinion. So if anyone is now saying anything against Jehovah's Witnesses let them know that i have heard a lot about Islam but nothing moved me until i found a better performing organization therefore it's only the better one that can make sense to me not all these STORY STORY STORY! ![]() |
Maynman:When an animal is presented as burnt offering back then it means everything must be burnt to arches nothing should be left for any other purpose the whole animal must be burnt completely on the altar. The smell of such a sacrifice differs from the one where only it's fat is burnt. Sacrifices were presented and both the Levites and the one presenting the offering has designated parts of the animal reserved for their consumption but in case of the burnt offering nothing is reserved. So when a person is offered as burnt offering to the God of Israel it means such a person will no longer pursue a life of pleasing either herself or parent all his or her life will be dedicated to the God of Israel. Of course Jephthah made the vow thinking it's one of his slaves that will come and welcome him unknowing that it's his one and only child that will fall in. May you have PEACE! ![]() |
Courz: Courz: Courz: Courz:It seems you don't understand what i'm telling you so i will make it simpler now: No matter what you think, say or do about my religion as long as you can't present yours for me to compare and contrast so as to choose between yours and mine i will forever remain one of Jehovah's Witnesses. So your worries all over this forum won't change anything unless you present your own religion and mind you it must be a better performing group than JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES. God bless you and may you have PEACE! |
jaephoenix:That's why you need to read actions because it speaks louder than words. Jesus is the leader as Christ it's his footsteps that Christians must follow {Hebrews 5:7} so can you quote anywhere Jesus used sword to attack or defend himself? Ọmọ Jesus was speaking in idioms that's why his first century disciples never used swords to either attack or defend themselves after his ascension! ![]() |
Aemmyjah:Many atheists just pick up a verse and build an argument around it, once you've dropped your comment let the atheist continue arguing with himself any sincere follower will get the sense of what is found written in God's word! ![]() |
Myer:oteneaaron wants to bring in what is always in his head: Jehovah's Witnesses matter! ![]() |
jaephoenix:Of course we need to talk about which of the Gods is WORKING and which are DEAD. But atheists who doesn't think there's any God has practically nothing to do with matters of God/Gods! ![]() |
NairaLTQ:You're quoting Jesus who said anyone whose beliefs and line of thought differs from his is not his brother {Matthew 12:46-50} so if you're not one of Jehovah's Witnesses you are one of my neighbours {Luke 10:29-37} but my brother is one with whom i share the same line of thought regarding sacred service! John 17:22 You're still dodging the fact that Jesus has his own group and he never said they are perfect humans yet anyone who is not part of them can't gain everlasting life. So instead of arguing about imperfection in humans why not ask for the identifying mark of the perfect organization that Jesus is leading? ![]() |
Kalatium:MONEY is a means of exchange! According to God's plan humans are not supposed to buy anything from one another each couple will have their own hectares to build and plant whatever they loves eating. As for clothing, footwears, furnitures and the rest mankind will work together as on family to create/invent many things and distribute equally according to the NEED of each family. So nobody will be slave or servant of another in God's arrangement. But after Satan has instigated the first human pair against God everything changed as God gave mankind (Adam descendants) to see the consequences of Satan's scheme. Satan wants to dominate and so most people who have his attitude also feel that's what led to the introduction of money it became a means to enslave, intimidate and oppress their fellowman. God helped some of his ancient servants to become rich materially so later generation of faithful people can learn from them. Servants of God like Abraham, Jacob, Joseph, Job and others were rich but they never enslave, intimidate nor oppress anyone. A servant of God like David did and God punished him but that doesn't mean David is evil rather it's what any imperfect human could do when given the power to rule over others so after God has humbled David he was forgiven. Of course money is useful as a means of exchange today but in God's kingdom we will no longer need it because everyone will have all what we need EQUALLY! ![]() |
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