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usbcable: dear cisse,

find below as requested.


let me just leave you alone with this misguided belief. its better i dont start talking about incidences where certain players still within the barca squad see them selves as being very important and expect the club to do their bidding or they part with both club/coach. else another round of wahala go start.



xavi--------silva
busquest----alonso/javi garcia
iniesta-----mata/martinez
fabregas----cazorla/navas
pedro-------soldado/negredo/Llorente
alba--------nacho/arbeloa
pique-------albiol/domiguez



well well well,
wht a perspective.
I can as well argue that playing from the center of a field attracts more attention than you playing from the sidelines.
hence since iniesta plays mainly from the flanks does that mean he is not as good a MF as messi.

roles differ hence counter measure on those roles will oalso differ.

and for mind you the angle from which pictures are taken also matters--meaning dont be too gullible with pictures.
check the attached and tell me what you see whether real madrid players are marked one on one.

This your Arsenal-typico-patterned list won't get past the quarter finals of any competition. Believe me, Spain with these players will struggle with an African team like Cape Verde or a cricket-loving country like Pakistan. Save for the duo of Silva and Alonso, the others are average and not world beaters.

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usbcable: Now lemme help you to understand that I DO NOT HATE MESSI.
I as a "premium" fan of RMFC would naturally support all that is real madrid, and you being a barca azzliker would expectedly defend the jersey of Barcelona.
no


yes i dont hate messi but he plays for a clubside i dont like(a rival club at that too). and stop acting like a child/lier that you just realised that now.



now mention some thing that is not a fact in all I said about this match or said about you and your fellow cules counterarguments.
is it the delfection that is not a fact
or is it that messi's second goal was
or is it that barca is a profit making venture
or is it that players are professional business men and barca a multinational "coy" in which both parties aim to protect its interest at all costs
just mention something that is not fact in all I have said


this is absolute HOGWASH.
and this shows you are the hypocrite here.

how many times have barca and barcelona entities(fans, coaches, presidents and senile"life/honorary presidents" come out to just insult CR7 publicly or privately. tell me the number of times any body from the rank and file of barcelona has commended CRonnie for any of his achievements.
and yet you come here spewing thrash(using cisse's words) that some people dont give credit to whom honor is due.

and to help you out
define
PENALDO or CRISTINA or GAYNALDO or MOURNHINHO etc

please,tell my dear friend when any of the achievements of the above persons been acknowlegded or praised from the "country of catalunya"

Now, you are being sympathetic and playing to emotions, both of which will certainly not help your course. Drop the arguments, the game has long been played and your team left off with something. So!

usbcable: and lemme add,

the recent victories for barcelona during the modern era were due to "human/ referee controvercial decisions", when football players are trained to dive, fool and harass officals into making wrong undeserved decisons in their favor.

Now, this is so laughable. And so I laugh... Hahahaha....... Hehehehe.....

ddippset: if madrid were to play without pepe, ramos, abeloa and marcelo all missing at the same time, it would be a rout. messi will begin his classico hattrick streak i bet you.

Messi already has a classico hattrick to his credit. The 3-3 draw at Camp Nou in the 2005/06 season.

usbcable: dipp,

you just fall my hand.

we dey talk of 7th October match. nah mathces of yesteryears you wan begin talk about?

later on you guys will say RM fans talk of matches played long ago. if thats the case i shoudl also be talking about the 2-1 defet suffered last season.

and as per last 12 classicos,

we've won 3, drawn 4 and lost 5. which is more than 2 wins.

when we want to start talking of past matches as a whole then the above blabbing is justified but as per the last match:
i sayit again nah Benzema the cat cause am

Overall classico count, Madrid has won just one more than Barca; many of which came in the mediocre era when most footblall players worked in the mines, did several jobs and only play football for fun.

usbcable: guy,

if i may add.

tell, is this the first time barcelona will be playing RM without pique/puyol or both pique and puyol.

why now make it seem as if its sooooo special.

the only difference is that unlike before the coach had no choice but times past it was a decision not to play pique/puyol in those matches.

In the recent/past classicos, its been one or either of them and not a complete makeshift of Masche-Adriano. No one saw that coming!

davies123: How did messi score d best goals?the second one a very well taken free kick which was heading over d bar and gotten deflected by a player,Casillas could hv gotten that without deflection,as for d first goal even u saw what happen,it was a scrap.on the other hand Ronaldo goals where clean things!U saw it now!

Did I read you say deflection?

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AjanleKoko: Definitely Messi. As a team, Madrid were slightly better, but Messi played like a possessed demon. Rode the numerous tackles and all the balls forward from his team went through him. Dropped deep to recover possession on many occasions and bossed the midfield, taking on Alonso and co without baulking.

CR7 wasn't bad, but apart from his well-taken strikes, did very little to influence the game for his side. Ozil was the star performer for Real.

Word!

[quote author=~Royal~]
....uMM..messi scored twice as well...And Messi's freekick goal was the most spectacular goal of the Evening...

Messi Has 3 Champions League Titles.

He not only scores just as many goals as Ronaldo...he is a MUCH BETTER passer and Facilitator

...You just Like Ronaldo More because you think he's Cuter.....admit it

Females Always Blindly Choose Ronaldo Over Messi...

Hmmf...yeah we know why.

I guess Messi don't get that Thangg Wet enough....[/quote]Talk of overall impact, Messi- 97% (Mehn, he was everywhere), CR7- 64%

He has never played in that role before. I must commend Tito though. He was brave with his team selection and tactic. I guess we now see why Messsi is the best! He played so deep you will think he's a central midfielder. Dang, that guy is just so amazing. And now, 17 classico goals and all of em against Casilas. Wow! What a nightmare that name Messi must be for poor Iker.
Above all, good game and result for both sides. Moudrid kept their cool in this one.
IMO, this was suppose to Madrid's game, i mean, looking at the makeshift defensive woes of FCB. I was dead scared the entire game, not that i was being pessimistic, but it was more of a wishful thinking to hope we don't concede more than one goal, and to blame VV is to be unrealistic. But i must say Adriano didnt do badly. Such a true utility player he is. I can bet he will play well as a DMF if called upon. He performed well, winning back balls time and again. I guess our coaches(Pep and Tito) are such transformers. They just know how to get the best out of the players, the ones who want to learn and adapt.

Stealthy: Excellent match.

Strange to see Adriano playing as CB (I don't recall him ever playing in this role). The lack of CBs is already costing us and the season is only a few weeks old - let's hope things improve, especially if Abidal is able to make a return to football.

We are still 8 points ahead of Madrid and the team is looking good. We just need a few guys to return from injury.

I like the fact that the players still seem hungry, which is very important.

He has never played in that role before. I must commend Tito though. He was brave with his team selection and tactic. I guess we now see why Messsi is the best! He played so deep you will think he's a central midfielder. Dang, that guy is just so amazing. And now, 17 classico goals and all of em against Casilas. Wow! What a nightmare that name Messi must be for poor Iker.
Above all, good game and result for both sides. Moudrid kept their cool in this one.
IMO, this was suppose to Madrid's game, i mean, looking at the makeshift defensive woes of FCB. I was dead scared the entire game, not that i was being pessimistic, but it was more of a wishful thinking to hope we don't concede more than one goal, and to blame VV is to be unrealistic. But i must say Adriano didnt do badly. Such a true utility player he is. I can bet he will play well as a DMF if called upon. He performed well, winning back balls time and again. I guess our coaches(Pep and Tito) are such transformers. They just know how to get the best out of the players, the ones who want to learn and adapt.

Pharoh: Brilliant formation from Barca

Brilliant, yes! Player selection, not so well!

I see Song coming on later in the game to bring solidity to the game and raise the tempo in our favour.

Our makeshift defence is our undoing.

Barcelona (4-3-3): Valdes; Alves, Adriano,
Mascherano, Alba; Xavi, Busquets, Fabregas; Iniesta,
Messi, Pedro

Is this some joke? Song left off the line-up; Adriano and Alba with Alves and Maschey in defence.

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¤ English league is more organised.
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hence PEPE was born. with a DI MARIA as a freebie.

Dive-Maria you meant to say, eh?

usbcable: we learnt from the best in the field, sir.

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la furia: the past has no influence on todays match. madrid have defeated barca with the style we are known for wic is counter attack, even messi says madrid counter attack is their prblm, 2 to four touches goal. barca will get the possesion as usual but will they score with it, remember how they struggle against granada at camp nou, sevilla, spartak moscow, my point is barca arent all that perfect, same with madrid, madrid keep conceding goals as if they must, madrid midfield isnt stable and my prblm is madrid appear over confident for todays match wen are actually d underdogs.
hala madrid

Truly spoken! And u can imagine the height of confidence in the Madrid set up to be travelling to Catalunya just dis morning. I smile my a ss out! Anyway, the game is a few hours from now. We shall see what shall happen. Forza Barca!

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logica: We are still close to saying the same thing. He was at his wit's end. Some of the "absent" regulars were on the bench.

That he chose to keep the regulars 'absent' does not preclude any assertion whatsoever that, Pep was at his wits end.

logica: I'm glad you mentioned Pique and Iniesta after you asked me which regulars are missing. So you consider Tello a regular? Who did he replace? And in your mind, missing Iniesta is not a big issue? Did Dani Alves play that game by the way? Not to mention Alexis not starting the game, and Xavi being pulled out early. No, it was not just a lost game. It was a game that showed Guadiola was at his wit's end; and he didn't know how to juggle that Clasico match with the impending match up with Chelsea.

That game at the Camp Nou was not lost because of absence of regulars, rather, it was an unfortunate result of a team play kicked to doom. The selection and formation was wrong to start with. Tello in the starting line up and playing a 3-4-3 albeit 3-5-2 as against a transient 4-3-3 was our undoing. As a matter of fact, it was silly gamble. Whatever made Pep think winning 1-3 with that formation at the Bernabeu is guarantee to toy with it at home can be questioned on the issue.

ddippset: fine. but what are you gonna do when there is a free kick or a corner kick? you then have five footers like alba, alvez, mascherano, xavi, and co up against six footers like benzema, higuain , ronaldo, khedira, alonso, kaka and co. and then the ball keeps getting looped over?

Not all 5 footers have poor jump ability. Puyi is a classic case here. And mind you, its poor concentration and positioning that make teams concede from set-pieces and not lack or thereof of height. The latter is as secondary to the case in question as needing a bible is to understanding the difference between gud and evil.