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SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 12:08am On Jun 14, 2022
JohnBullMySon:
You're mistaking creativity and skill. Skill is not creativity that's why we see people here calling Ejuke our most creative player when he's only skillful at best.

Chukwueze is more skillful but Lookman is more creative and a better overall player. Lookman had more numbers this season. 8 gaols 5 assists while Chukwueze had 3goals 3 assists.

Lookman's pass success rate is 80% while Chukwueze's is 75% so I don't know why you're calling Chukwueze a better passer. I see Chukwueze as lethal only when you're looking to hit a team on the counter. He's skillful and has a good left leg to put the ball in the right spot. However, making him a starter when you have Lookman on the bench is a no no.
Let me make some things clearer
I am not mistaking creativity for skills, i know the difference. In football, creativity is the ability to fashion out goalscoring opportunities. Creativity has more to do with decision making, it borders more on the mental.

Technique simply refers to the know-how to do a thing. For you to know how, you must possess first of all the required skills. Skills make up a technique.
In footballing, there are techniques required to prosecute the activity, we have passing technique, dribbling technique, shooting technique, even tackling technique (stand tackle skill and slide tackle skill make up the tackling technique).

Now to Chukwueze and Lookman..
I said Chukwueze bags more passing technique. in the technique of making passes of the ball, we have the skill of making short passes, long passes, chipped passes and crossing.
The combination of the different passing skills, their accuracy, and the number of each of the passing skills completed per game are used to calculate passing technique. Of those, the accuracy of passes made holds the greatest weight.
JohnBullMySon, you accounted only for the accuracy of short passes each player made, you did not account for long passes, chipped passes and crossing accuracy.

Passing stats per game for Chukwueze.
Short passes: 12.3 (75%).
Long passes: 0.4 (50%).
Chipped passes: 0.6 (44%).
Crosses: 0.1 (13%)

Passing stats per game for Lookman.
Short passes: 19.8 (79.7% approx 80%).
Long passes: 0.2 (19%)
Chipped passes: 0.1 (18%)
crosses: 0.1 (11%)

From the above stats you can deduce that Chukwueze has more in passing technique than Lookman.

Lookman scored a total of 8 goals and made 5 assists in all competition. Chukwueze scored a total of 8 goals and not 3 goals, and made a total of 3 assists in all competition.

Again, in football, creativity is not determined by just the number of assists, because a player can be surrounded by wasteful forwards, forwards who flunk chances, rather the creativity of a player is determined by the number key passes the player averages per game. A key pass is a pass that results to a goal scoring opportunity.
Chukwueze's key passes averages 1.1 per game.
Lookman's key passes averages 0.9 per game.
So it should be clear on who is more creative.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 5:26pm On Jun 13, 2022
The win against Sao tome and principe wasn't a coincidence, it was a tactical maneuvre.

We wouldn't have won at least by this large margin, if our build up was fast paced for the following reasons:

1. Those guys are faster.

2. They maintained a low block. When playing a team that maintains a low block, you need time to break them down, to identify spaces and weak spots, and then take advantage of those. If you notice we scored more goals in the second half, the goal fest would have continued if the play was allowed to extend through the added minutes.

3. We needed to maintain possession. To break them down we needed to know how they defend, we can only study them that way if we maintain the bulk of possession. Notice that we didn't allow them to keep possession. We pressed them to either cede possession or commit errors.

4. Our slow bulldup enabled us to take calculated risks. Notice that we didn't try so many dribbling maneuvres, but attempted more passes of the ball. Teams that maintain a low block will hope to hit on the counter, once they get the ball during the opposition's attacking forays.

Etebo and iwobi should be commended for the beautiful roles the played in the win.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 4:10pm On Jun 13, 2022
This is just another case of bullying.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 4:09pm On Jun 13, 2022
JohnBullMySon:
Chukwueze is only better than Lookman in two places. Skill and shot technique. Lookman has a more powerful shot, better passing ability and a better player when all metrics are considered.
Chukwueze is more creative, more adventurous and bags more passing technique.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 2:57pm On Jun 13, 2022
Subzero047:
Which Chukwueze, Lookman is still better than him
I don't think so.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 1:44pm On Jun 09, 2022
A particular lineup prediction has this:
If we go by this lineup, and looking at the squad with Sierra Leone, I believe we will defeat them by nothing less than 3 goals without conceding any.

SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 8:53am On Jun 09, 2022
jihday:
yeah, let’s compare the French/Russian league to the EPL
Maybe you should ask CIES football observatory who at one time listed Chidera Ejuke as third best dribbler in the world despite plying his trade in the Russian premier league.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 11:04pm On Jun 08, 2022
Subzero047:
In what world will Olise and Eze won't make our starting eleven, no player in our squad comes close to them in terms of dribbling and chance creation
Big chance(s) created
Moses Simon
13 big chances created, played a total of 30 games, started 29 games, averaged 78 minutes per game.

Michael Olise
8 big chances created, played a total of 26 games, started 12 games, averaged 44 minutes per game.

Eberechi Eze
1 big chance created. played a total of 13 games, started 6 games, averaged 47 minutes per game..


Dribbling
Chidera Ejuke
64% dribble accuracy with an average of 3 dribbles made per game.

Eberechi Eze .
61% dribble accuracy with an average of 1.1 dribbles made per game

Michael Olise .
45% dribble accuracy with an average of 1.1 dribbles made per game
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 8:01pm On Jun 08, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
....and break down analytically their tactical traits, technical qualities and overall footballing abilities that will see us forge a truly balanced team of synchronised ballers and teammates who understand not just how to play but when to play. When to get into attacking transitions... when to get into defensive transitions... when to mix it up... all as one unit.


That's just me expatiating further. Well said Meliforme.

Thank you TheSuperNerd.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 7:04pm On Jun 08, 2022
solonnachi:
A ticket we easily threw to the wind. If we had secured that ticket, may be Eberechi Eze and Michael Olise would have been begging to play for us. grin
I tell you the truth that if we get our best hands to play, those lads can't make our starting eleven. They play for good clubs in the EPL, but that doesn't make them the best. They will only add to the squad depth.

In Nigeria we celebrate names that play in big clubs, without taking good time to decipher their real quality.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 12:54am On Jun 05, 2022
Truidstar:
Your top 3 is laughable…no goal or assist,
Goalscoring should be listed as a shooting technique not passing technique.
Assists making is not a technique in football.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 12:11am On Jun 05, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Give a break down why you think so. He took his time to break down the parameters of his decision. The only way you can counters his list is by coming up with what you think are the better parameters or learn from his study.

Meliforme, thank you for the good work. I appreciate your time and passion.
You are welcome. TheGoodJoe.
Thank you so much for the appreciation.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 12:07am On Jun 05, 2022
Bigzigg:
That your list is laughable, boss!
Yes it looks ludicrous prima facie, but you need a little deeper to uncover facts.
That we find it difficult to string passes, and transition from defense to attack is not altogether a coaching problem.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 11:51pm On Jun 04, 2022
Blueelf:
Did you attach stats to your own list?
Some of the stats are from Whoscored and Sofascore. Those are the ones that are quite common. You can start with those.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 11:47pm On Jun 04, 2022
charlesemeka85:
bro the matter tire me how folks here rate certain players

Ejike as a player is bereft of footballing intelligence. Many here still fail to understand that the game have evolved where coaches demands for less dribble with efficiency because while dribbling a player may lose the ball which will wreck havoc to his team

Football is more mechanical and scientific now unlike years back. Here we tend to hype players that many atimes don’t merit it at all

Ejike is a poor player, to me he is still amateurish and have a lot to learn for him to make the leap to bigger leagues in the future
Football analysts and experts says otherwise.
So being the third best dribbler in the world is all you know about Ejuke.

You have not noticed his goals and assists, only one player at CSKA Moscow has more goals than him, and only one player made more assists than him. This is because he played most games in the second half of the season as a sub, at a time he was leading in goals and assists.

Only one player passes the ball better than Ejuke at CSKA Moscow, and that player is a midfielder.

I can tell you for free that Ejuke is more intelligent than all SE wingers.
No Super Eagles player commands more technique than Ejuke.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 9:13pm On Jun 04, 2022
Meliforme:
Top Eleven Super Eagles players with the best passing technique.

Kelechi Nwakali
Okechukwu Azubuike
Innocent Bonke
Chidera Ejuke
Oghenekaro Etebo
Alhassan Yusuf
Obinna Nwobodo
Raphael Onyedika
Moses Simon
Alex lwobi
Frank Onyeka
I have read most, if not all the criticisms directed at the list above. Criticisms are very much welcome. I am grateful for them. However i will ask that if you are to give your criticism, please go a little extra to attach stats to the criticism you intend to purvey.

Life is ruled by facts not sentiments. I did not just wake up to compose that list, i invested time and resource studying every Super Eagles player. I did it out of love and enthusiasm.

I have also given the metrics i used for the compilation in my previous post. Please feel free to give a contrary opinion and do so with stats.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme:
Meliforme:
Top Eleven Super Eagles players with the best passing technique.

Kelechi Nwakali
Okechukwu Azubuike
Innocent Bonke
Chidera Ejuke
Oghenekaro Etebo
Alhassan Yusuf
Obinna Nwobodo
Raphael Onyedika
Moses Simon
Alex lwobi
Frank Onyeka
What is passing technique
Passing technique refers to the entire complement of passing skills. A player's passing technique refers to number of passing skills the player brings to his game.

What are the skills that composites the technique of passing
Listed below are passing skills:
a) Short pass.
b) Long pass.
c) Chipped pass.
d) Crossing. I included crossing as a passing skill in the study.

How i performed the calculation used for the ranking
1) The number of passing skills a player brings to his game.
2) The accuracy at which each of the passing skill was executed.
3) The average number of the each of the passing skill completed per game .
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 5:12pm On Jun 03, 2022
Top Eleven Super Eagles players with the best passing technique.

Kelechi Nwakali
Okechukwu Azubuike
Innocent Bonke
Chidera Ejuke
Oghenekaro Etebo
Alhassan Yusuf
Obinna Nwobodo
Raphael Onyedika
Moses Simon
Alex lwobi
Frank Onyeka
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 6:45pm On Jun 01, 2022
andrewbaba44:
We are talking about currently ,and I think danjuma is the better one
I will pick Dennis ahead of Danjuma as things stand.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 3:03pm On Jun 01, 2022
charlesemeka85:
him need to sabi play ball first inorder to attract interest from bigger leagues

The guy is too amateurish to my liking
I can tell you for free that no winger in Super Eagles is a better ball player.
None.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 9:59pm On May 31, 2022
Blueelf:
Nothing new here. Just carpenters displaying their Carpentry skills
For spotting nice carpentry, you must really be a carpenter.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 7:43pm On May 29, 2022
Odunayaw:
Very bold statement. You go defend am
It is very clear.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 7:42pm On May 29, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
A Winger-Penetrator. A playmaker-Winger. A Creative Winger. They go by these names and a few more.... Ejuke remains a fine talent in the picture of things but he needs better consistency going forward and an improvement in a few areas chief among them which is "decision making".

His decision making especially at the last Afcon was atrocious.

His 21/22 story reads in summary: A Beast in the first half of the season but cooled down in the second half of the season.

Hopefully his 22/23 story comes out better. Dude has what it takes to still turn heads.
Ejuke wasn't a starter for most games in the second half of 21/22. I think the AFCON tourney
affected him psychologically. Imagine not being in the match day squad against Tunisia, as if any of the personnel starting in his position are better.

Our wingers are all poor in making decisions. Comparatively Ejuke seems the better pick.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 6:44pm On May 29, 2022
Odunayaw:
We have new wingers. Lookman, Dennis
And the best of them all Ejuke.
I don't think we have a better winger and playmaker.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 3:58pm On May 28, 2022
Curtisaxel10:
I don't think so. His English is very poor. How can he communicate phrases such as "gengen pressing", " high back line", "diagonal passing", "false nine" etc especially when he has to make tactical switches while play is going on?.

Communication is more important to coaching than many people realize. Maybe that is why Rohr hardly made in-game tactical switches—he probably didn't know the words to use!

Anyways, there are coaches like Pep, Jose and Klopp who have done well in leagues with languages that they are not too conversant with. I wonder how they do it.
His English is enough to communicate those clauses.
You should listen to him again.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 8:17am On May 28, 2022
TheGoodJoe:
Thanks for the update. Don't you think his English might be a challenge? Many of our players are sharp English speakers, especially the Foreign borns.

Either way. We judge him with the games to come and I hope he blends with the team. I think the team also needs an interpreter. Or Zaidu can assist of his Portuguese is fluent.
I think he has enough English to communicate his ideas on the pitch. Drawings and sketches can communicate tactical details more than thousand words.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 7:43pm On May 23, 2022
drDoom3:
Balogun is better than Omeruo.

Bassey benches Balogun for club.

Awaziem is good but a journeyman. I can’t rate him until he becomes relevant in Europe. Similar to Awoniyi pre-Union, abundant talent but needs to settle and prove himself.

Bassey starts over all our CBs today. I can’t remember any CB we have had in recent years that is consistently performing at such a high level.
Regarding the statement in bold letters, I think the club wants to sell Bassey, one of the strong reasons but not the only reason why he sometimes starts in central defense, they are also marketing his versatility. I have analysed Balogun and Bassey very closely, i believe Balogun has the edge.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 11:43pm On May 22, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
First of all, he wasn't showboating. He was simply trying to escape 3 markers to get a cross in.

Secondly, this is him back to playing as a LB and he did put in some very good crosses in the final yesterday.

Thirdly, ain't no way he is just all brawns. I repeat... Bassey is probably the closest defender to Awaziem in terms of the perfect long ball pass execution. He even does it far better than Ekong. And his ball playing composure disagrees with this "all brawns no brains" talk. He isn't there yet but believe me, he is a mix of both Bs as things stand.


Lastly these are not "unnecessary hypes". The boy has earned the attention and watching his interview after the final yesterday shows a lad who isn't allowing the praises get to his head. Chris, be glad. Bassey will only get better we hope.

Watch below:
https://twitter.com/johnmasonrtid/status/1528060631135531009?t=5V9HzZRLysaCOqz1HK_pNQ&s=19

And then this (just a bonus):





As for Awaziem, it is not like he went bad. It's just club stability he struggles with. Chidozie has always been a rock for us in GWG colors. Awaziem remains the one central defender in the Super Eagles today who can locate anyone on the pitch with any kind of long pass.
He and Nwakali were the most Dominant long passers in camp prior to the Afcon and during the Afcon campaign in camp (up until Awaziem's injury which didn't let him play at the Afcon).

The ease with which he executes the long ball is almost godlike and he is also a very assured defender. A fine combo of ruggedness and technical ability.

We must not forget so suddenly how we admitted how much improved he had gotten in Super Eagles colors prior to the Afcon.

The only issue with him is his very weird club career choices lately mostly motivated by money anyway. Leaving Boavista to go on loan to Alanyaspor all because Boavista couldn't take up his wage bill (awaziem was boavista's highest earner/most valuable player in the market but it wasnt even up to what he desired).

Awaziem haven't lived up to expectations club wise despite starring in Ligue 1, La Liga and in Portugal's top flight all because he is yet to find stability. Stability is his issue and at 25 currently, I hope he finally has that sorted this summer.
Thank you TheSuperNerd for the exposition on some of the stories trailing Awaziem's club career. Awaziem is a defender that i rate ahead of some EPL defenders. Before this story by you i thought Awaziem was just one of those skillful players that are just unlucky, now i know better.

Calvin Bassey is in red hot form. He is burgeoning into a very skillful defender, but as things stands, i will pick Awaziem, Balogun and Omeruo ahead of him in central defence, Bassey looks like someone who is open to new ideas. I believe he will improve more with time.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 12:47am On May 21, 2022
charlesemeka85:
baba all na cruise no hard feelings bro

Nerdy na my man na, I just say mk I tease am small
Alright.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 6:38pm On May 20, 2022
charlesemeka85:
simple update wey person post her few minutes ago e reach ur turn u elaborate am sotey come add Italian and Brazilian players wey no concern this thread join

Mr elaborator! cheesy
You know it takes a lot of IQ and work to give details and construct sentences the way TheSuperNerd does it.
Please lets learn not to downplay people's gifts, abilities and good works.

Mr CharlesEmeka, you can recall vividly that i have praised you openly on this thread, calling you the numero uno harbinger of good reports. I can repost that comment of mine, if you require it.

BascoVanVeli has also being doing a great job, let's not downplay the good work that these guys bring.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 9:04am On May 19, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
Very well explained Meliforme. True football understanding flowing freely from your fingers.

One goal in a major final shouldn't make us forget that Aribo still cannot dictate plays or boss a midfield from a central role. Afterall, he wasn't even deployed as a CM today.

He is always at his peak best when played closer to the box. Today he wasn't even deployed as a false 9. He was Played further upfront. More like a CF. Yes... Aribo played 9 today but interpreted it rather differently.

Just shows you that when Aribo is not burdened with playmaking/Midfield conduction (which he clearly doesn't have the natural knack to do) but focused on playing close to the box to create attack overloads and use his knack for quick 1-2 interchanges and high workrate to bring his mates into the game, and provided that a genuine MF conductor takes up the playmaking part, then WE WILL SEE THE TRUE AND UNDILUTED BEST OF ARIBO.


Once again, well analysed.
Thank you TheSuperNerd.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 10:41pm On May 18, 2022
Joeyzinho:
Na this Aribo meliforme say nwakali better pass? cheesy

Wonders.
I have always touted that Aribo should be played closer to the 18 yard box.
His coaches are just making a discovery that i have since made.

Aribo is a good player but a poor midfielder. He lacks the intelligence and technique required for the central midfielder role. His good touches and control of the ball hides his deficiencies as a midfielder to the eye that is unlearned.

I want you guys to know that as far as the central midfielder role is concerned, the difference between Nwakali and Aribo is wide, with Nwakali having the edge.

A game of this magnitude is supposed to see Aribo in central midfield duties, but no, he was deployed as a false 9, which to me is a revelation and by a good extent his best position.

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