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SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 5:21pm On Feb 12, 2022
andrewbaba44:
Chukwueze failed at the afcon

Who is he that they should play to his strength ?

Even Egypt is not playing Liverpool type of football to suit salah
Playing to his abilities and building the play around him are two different things.
He wasn't used in a way that resonates with his style of play.
The thin midfield did not favour him.

You misunderstood me.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 5:10pm On Feb 12, 2022
TheLoneCitizen:
Accurate, bro. Did someone dispute this?
No.
They said that Joe Aribo can be deployed as a DLP.
TheGoodJoe said no and i supported him.

I just wanted them to see who a DLP is.
I mentioned you to see if you can add anything to my narrative or present a contrary view.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 5:08pm On Feb 12, 2022
TheLoneCitizen:
Accurate, bro. Did someone dispute this?
No.
They said that Joe Aribo can be deployed as a DLP.
TheGoodJoe said no and i supported him.

I just wanted them to see who a DLP is.
I mentioned you to see if you can add anything or present a contrary view.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 4:10pm On Feb 12, 2022
TheGoodJoe:
Waiting for it. Thanks in advance.
You are welcome.

I have already done that.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 4:07pm On Feb 12, 2022
Kog45:
I just wish Osimehn injury free...Chuckwueze was highly rated by Eguavoen thinking that he will come good as we progress but failed....Ghana two legs match must be for starters who will get it right from the start to finish.
Chukwueze did not fail.

The system did not play to his strengths.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme:
[color=#000033]Deep-lying playmaking.[/color]

Who is a deep-lying-playmaker.
A deep-lying playmaker is a holding midfielder who specializes in ball skills such as passing, rather than defensive skills like tackling. -Wikipedia.

What are the roles of a deep-lying playmaker.
Their role is to sit in between the defense and attack, starting attacks by spraying passes in all directions. They dictate play from a rather withdrawn position when compared to modern-day number 10s .Ball retention and defensive concerns aren't major responsibilities of a deep-lying playmaker, their job is to collect the ball from defense, create space, find the players in good positions/making good runs and to make sure the ball reaches them with pin point accuracy.

What positions do deep-lying playmakers occupy on the field of play.
In 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1, They occupy one of the central roles in the midfield 4, they pair the defensive midfielder in 4-2-3-1, 3-4-3, 3-5-2. They also have roles in 4-3-3 depending on the coach's philosophy and style of play.

What skillsets do deep-lying playmakers possess.
Vision, creativity, technique.

How do you identify a deep-lying playmaker.
They make a high number of short passes while attempting to find space and openings to dispatch the ball forward.
Their passing accuracy is at insanely high levels.
They calm the play down and make a team tick by sending players off in right directions and getting them past pockets of space behind opposition midfielders.
You can identify them by the long passes they make to wingers and sometimes to center forwards.
Their primary concerns is in making pre-assists, that is making the pass before the final pass, They also make assists.


Wikipedia and Quora mirrored my stance and stand on the concept of a deep-lying playmaker. I lifted many paragraphs verbatim from Quora, only the first paragraph is from Wikipedia

Cc: TheGoodJoe, TheSuperNerd, Nelsz, Philosopher. TheLoneCitizen.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 3:27pm On Feb 12, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


I think I will like to come in here. When we talk about deep-lying playmaker, to the best of my knowledge, it has to do with the role than the position.

I will list some players in this era who I consider ideal deep-lying playmakers.

Granit Xhaka
Thiago Alcantara
Jorginho

The thing about these players has to do with their natural style. Even when they venture forward, they still play in a particular manner. They like the short passing game.

One thing about them is that they like to operate from deep. They are comfortable playing for a long time close to the defenders and like to build attacks from the back with their passes.

So when these guys write Aribo as a deep-lying playmaker, I wonder if they are referring to him operating in that manner. That is sitting deep and using passes to dictate play.

I might be wrong because I have not watched much of Aribo but in the few I saw, he is not the player that likes to sit and play deep for a long time. Offensive play is a big part of his game.

I will like others to add. Do you see Aribo as a player that plays like Xhaka or Jorginho?
Aribo style of play is a far cry from what is described as deep-lying playmaking.

Pirlo, Xabi Alonso are good examples of DLPs.

I hurriedly made a write-up on DLP from the little i gleaned from Wikipedia and Quora.
I will drop it soon.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 2:45pm On Feb 12, 2022
Odunayaw:
442 isn't the issue o, it's style and discipline that makes its not to suit us now.

Uruguay has done more than we can dream of at the WC with that formation
4-4-2 is the issue.

Why is it the issue.
It is the issue because of an obvious lack of the requisite personnel.

You will spot this clearly after my reply to TheGoodJoe's requests for additions on the definition of a DLP.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme:
Danielnino00:
You're being petty again as usual...The same attitude you displayed when people were voicing concern over Okoye before the AFCON... After his famous blunder, you lost your voice...
It's only in your head that people hate foreign borns...

Based on current form, Lookman isn't better than Chukwueze... Chuks has scored in the laliga,champions league and Copa de Rey this season.. 6 goals and one assist in total compared to Lookman's 5 goals and 1 assists despite playing fewer games...

Let's see Lookman in action in the GWG first before we conclude that he is better than our current wingers..... Okoye is playing in a top league but is delivering a disasterclass every matchday for the super eagles
Chukwueze's performances in SE started a downhill course after Rohr switched to 4-4-2.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 11:51pm On Feb 10, 2022
TheGoodJoe:

How many goals has Simy scored this season that you want Sadiq dropped for him?

You are yet to tell us the deep lying playmaker you wanted Eguavoen to take over Nwakali.


HERE AND NOW
I am not sure you are ready for the name(s) Komekn will mention.

This is a guy that said Aina is our only wingback that can cross.
I am not really sure when Komekn's deliverance will come.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 5:44pm On Feb 10, 2022
charlesemeka85:
ekong is also good in long balls
Yes, he is good.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 5:43pm On Feb 10, 2022
lakesidepapa:
I red Aina started his football career as a winger before he was converted to FB.
Really!

He is our best wingback.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 5:19pm On Feb 10, 2022
komekn:
I would probably go with Dennis as our front man, he has more football intelligence and is much more unpredictable and skilfull. Depending on how things work bring in either Victor or Ighalo later on.

Victor is very good but also is his aggressive style of play is predictable, which may not work against Ghana.

I would like to see Moses Simon on the wing, I wish he could cross because then it would be a great option for Victor who has strong Aerial threat. But alas all our current wingers are very poor at crossing the ball.

Among our wing backs the only one that can cross is Aina.

However, if Chris convinces Salisu to play for Ghana let me be honest WAHALA deh. None of our CBs is as good as him.

If the NFF finally complete Ademola Lookman change of allegiance application then we have a good option who can cross the ball properly.

There are a lot IF's, so it's difficult to make projections.
Aina is the least crosser of the ball when accuracy is brought to the fore, even his long balls are the poorest. The last AFCON tourney is testament to this.

Looking at our fullbacks/Wingbacks,

The best crossers of the ball are:
Jamilu Collins,
Tyronne Ebuehi,
Zaidu Sanusi,
Ola Aina.

For players with the best long balls:
Zaidu Sanusi
Tyronne Ebuehi
Jamilu Collins,
Ola Aina.

Emphases are on accuracy

However, Aina offers the most offensive threat among our fullbacks, and has the best technique.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 3:41pm On Feb 09, 2022
komekn:
The current AFCON Golden boot winner plays in the same league as Ighalo the only difference Ighalo has scored more goals than Aboubakar. Food for thought to the objective.

Sadiq is an embarrassment to the SE and cannot even clean Ighalo boots. He is tall without aerial be domination has no Physicality and keeps fallling be down for no apparent reason, always diving .

Osimhen is faster than Ighalo that's all NOTHING else is he clearly better than Ighalo at. When it comes to Physicality and hold up play as well as technical play Ighalo is superior.

Dessers is not on Ighalo level, 17 games and 4 goals in the Eredivisie this season is not outstanding. Awoniyi is just starting not better than Ighalo, Onuachu is a good proposition but he is not better than Ighalo.

There is no Favouritism for Ighalo rather unjustified discrimination.
Ighalo is not more technical than Osimhen in any way. The fact that you used superior brought a lot of questions to my mind.

I am quoting this post to deliver the gullible from bogus assertions.

This may come as a surprise to many that the only aspect of the game that Osimhen is yet to assert himself over Ighalo is in his contributions to defense. Rohr knows this. The comparison doesn't mean Osimhen's contributions to defense is poor ( Please take note ).

Mr Komekn, can you kindly mention the techniques in football that Ighalo does better than Osimhen.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 3:38pm On Feb 09, 2022
komekn:
The current AFCON Golden boot winner plays in the same league as Ighalo the only difference Ighalo has scored more goals than Aboubakar. Food for thought to the objective.

Sadiq is an embarrassment to the SE and cannot even clean Ighalo boots. He is tall without aerial be domination has no Physicality and keeps fallling be down for no apparent reason, always diving .

Osimhen is faster than Ighalo that's all NOTHING else is he clearly better than Ighalo at. When it comes to Physicality and hold up play as well as technical play Ighalo is superior.

Dessers is not on Ighalo level, 17 games and 4 goals in the Eredivisie this season is not outstanding. Awoniyi is just starting not better than Ighalo, Onuachu is a good proposition but he is not better than Ighalo.

There is no Favouritism for Ighalo rather unjustified discrimination.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 5:37am On Feb 08, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
Fantastically further summarised at Bolded, Meliforme.

So I trust it is clear now.
Thank you, TheSuperNerd.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 5:34am On Feb 08, 2022
TheGoodJoe:

Osimhen makes dashing runs to space behind the defence. That is his game. Spaletti wants the team to focus on feeding Osimhen.

Spaletti will not want the players focusing on dribbling when there is a chance to pass to a space Osimhen is attacking.
Thank you for the insight, TheGoodJoe.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 9:56pm On Feb 07, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
He is saying the the supporting cast to Osimhen should cut down on unnecessary dribbles and rather look to quickly feed him and only dribble with purpose rather than allow the opponents' defenders have all the time in the world to defend against Osimhen.

In other words, Spalletti wants his MFs and wingers to play in a manner that puts Osimhen at huge advantage over his markers and not at a disadvantage so that he can do what he does and finish the job upfront.
Thank you TheSuperNerd for the insight.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 9:48pm On Feb 07, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
He is saying the the supporting cast to Osimhen should cut down on unnecessary dribbles and rather look to quickly feed him and only dribble with purpose rather than allow the opponents' defenders have all the time in the world to defend against Osimhen.

In other words, Spalletti wants his MFs and wingers to play in a manner that puts Osimhen at huge advantage over his markers and not at a disadvantage so that he can do what he does and finish the job upfront.

Okay, Thank you for the insight.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 7:25pm On Feb 07, 2022
TheGoodJoe:
Contrary to the jokes about Kelechi Nwakali, it raises my respect for the young man. He took a massive pay cut to rebuild his career. That shows someone ready to build again from scratch.

I pray and the young man keeps working hard. God will bless his hustle.
Amen.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 6:37pm On Feb 07, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
A follow up to Spaletti's pre Match presser. Below is an extract from his post-match presser.

Spalletti has seen the light fully and finally. He now knows. cool
Osimhen topped the list of the players with the most completed dribbles.
Is the coach saying Osimhen should be served the ball in positions and circumstances where the need to dribble his opponents will be less?
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 3:55pm On Feb 07, 2022
komekn:
Agreed without question.

It baffles me how professional players cannot do simple accurate cross and these are wingers or wing backs.

Chukwueze, Zaidu, Simon, Ejuke are all poor at crossing the ball, the very basic requirement for the position they play.

Football is not just dribbling, skills and showboating.

I watched how many accurate crosses were thrown into the box by Senegal , if not for a very good Egyptian goalkeeper and last ditch defending. Senegal should really have won the game 3-0
Crossing the ball is not Ejuke's preferred style of play. He made zero crosses of the ball in the course of the minutes he got at the AFCON.
Dude is for the inverted role of a winger.

He is a playmaker that loves to shoot at goal.

Surprisingnly his long balls are precise.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 11:42pm On Feb 06, 2022
Congratulations, Senegal.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 11:38pm On Feb 06, 2022
Mujtahida:
Christians today are a marvel to me. A more ignorant people one would never find.

Prophecy in the new testament is not about predicting the future! That's why when I see men of God prophesying the outcome of football matches I wince at the caricature the gospel has been turned into.

What is new testament prophecy?

For the Testimony of Jesus Is the Spirit of Prophecy' (Rev 19:10)! This is the summation of the essence of new testament prophecy. NT prophecy is not to say this or that will happen in the future. It is to glorify Christ! Take Christ out of any prophecy, no matter how accurate it is, it is not new testament prophecy.

I end it here.
Yes, you are very exact.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 11:30pm On Feb 06, 2022
Joebie:
I was hoping that "prophet" will be found out.. For the juju guy, na the usual things.
Yes, there is a world of difference between prophecy and prediction.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 11:20pm On Feb 06, 2022
TheGoodJoe:

How did Eguavoen's tactics cost us the game when we created almost double the chances the opposition created? Even with a man down, we still terrorized them.

What will the better tactics do? Fewer chances?

What are you switching for when the chances are coming? Do you think the tactical switch is a light bulb switch?

You switch tactics when you are not creating chances. Not when you are creating far more chances than the opposition.
TheGoodJoe you are yet to explain to me Eguavoen inverting his wingers and still expected them to function as traditional wingers.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 11:13pm On Feb 06, 2022
Odunayaw:
At last

Juju over false prophet
The God of the scriptures has never endorsed listening to wizards and to those that have familiar spirits, no matter how accurate their predictions may seem to be.

After i saw the instagram video of that prophet, i closed the instagram app, and immediately displayed on my home screen (from KJV bible widget) was the bible passage,
Leviticus 19:31
Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God..

I knew it was the Lord speaking to me, reminding me of his ways..
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 3:52pm On Feb 04, 2022
do4luv14:
be shooting yourself in the foot,

Then who have that more than skills btw Etebo and Nwakalihuh
You clearly did not understand me.
What i meant in the second paragraph is that there are other things you require to be in the biggest of places than skills. I said it because you said Nwakali plays in the Segunda division.

We can do without an Etebo, but without a Nwakali our poor coordination and struggles lingers.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 2:48pm On Feb 04, 2022
yinkeys:
I guess I’d watch the game again
Okay.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 2:47pm On Feb 04, 2022
TheGoodJoe:

Do not stress yourself too much. Those who understand do. It was like this years ago when people tried to tear Mikel down.

The point is about the quality Nwakali brings to the team. Unfortunately, we can not force him to wake up and get serious with showing the world his ability.

However, that guy has an undeniable mad talent. His performance at the AFCON beat my expectation.
Thank you TheGoodJoe.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 2:33pm On Feb 04, 2022
do4luv14:
there nothing like for now, how many games had he played in the GWG, for you to rate him over Etebo,

skill set, yet the place that same skillet can take him is not segunda in how many yearshuh

Let's us be truthful at times pls,
I don't need many games to appraise a player or to determine what he can offer. I did the same to Sadiq on his cameo against Egypt when i expressed my preference for him over Taiwo.

The truth is what i am giving you now.

You require more than skills to get to big places in life.
You should know this.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 2:22pm On Feb 04, 2022
yinkeys:
That Tunisian beat Ndidi & our right back before taking that hot shot smiley
It would have been 2 nil if not for the same Ndidi.

I am not exonerating Ndidi, but the right back takes the greater blame.

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