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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 11:46am On Sep 17, 2022
Omanambala:
I like Awoniyi and I think he is more technical than Osim but he needs to work on his finishing.
Just tell us you like Taiwo, we will understand.

The only striker more technical than Osimhen in S.E is lheanacho, while Awoniyi is the least technical of all the striking options.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 11:19am On Sep 17, 2022
Watch some Alex Iwobi's dribbling escapades.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYc-Utu17To
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 5:52pm On Sep 10, 2022
In the match against Bayern Leverkusen, Ejuke is the forward with the best performance of both sides.

Ejuke is now winning aerial duels (He won 2/2 of his aerial duels). I am happy in his growth.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 8:28pm On Sep 06, 2022
TheGoodJoe:
Kelechi Nwakali has my full support. Proud of the young man working his way up. I believe he is going to shock the world and make many who wish him well proud.

Keep shining young man. Effort releases its reward when you refuse to quit.
Nwakali is busy making us proud.
He is such a delight .
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 8:37pm On Sep 05, 2022
jargooflife912:
Ejuke
Ejuke and dribbling.

Would like to see him on the list of top 10 players with the highest number of key passes.
Truth is he can do it.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 11:52am On Sep 03, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
No my good man, it is very much in context with your reply.

You were stressing Ndidi's 81% passing accuracy in the opposition half after 5 EPL games as proof that he is an accomplished ball passer and I brought the breakdown to show you that it doesn't depict such. Simple. Ndidi's passing range is limited. That is the Truth.
Let me give you a quick summary of how the discussion evolved:

Ndidi recorded a high passing accuracy of 90%.
TheGoodJoe said "This was phenomenal",
TheLoneCitizen replied "Regular stats for any average defender against a good team".
Hatakekakashi replying TheLoneCitizen said "Exactly. Most of those passes are between him and his CB partner, that's why he has 90% pass accuracy

Following the discussion, and especially taking note of the reply given by Hatakekakashi, i decided to come in to give the notion that Ndidi has always recorded a high passing accuracy, whether played as a CD or DM. I went on to reveal stats regarding the accuracy of his passes in the opposition's half. This putting to rest the suggestion that the high accuracy of the passes he recorded in the last game might be as a result of an interchange of passes between him and his CB partner.

TheGoodJoe:
Who let the MONSTER out? This was phenomenal.

To the best of my knowledge, Ndidi started as a central defender. Maybe, he is being played off position.
TheLoneCitizen:
Those numbers aren't impressive, brother. Regular stats for any average defender against a good team.

If he got those as a DM, then they became eye-catching.
hatakekakashi:
Exactly. Most of those passes are between him and his CB patner, that's why he has 90% pass accuracy.
Meliforme:
Stats says otherwise. Ndidi has good numbers in accuracy of passes whether as a CD or DM.
It should interest you that Ndidi's percentage of accurate passes in the opposition's half is at 81% and that is astonishing for someone reputed as being a poor passer of the ball.
This was how you went out of context.
A good football analyst, knows that whenever percentage of accurate passes is mentioned, it is obviously short passes that is implicated except otherwise indicated as long pass, chipped pass etc. This is because short passing is basic. That is what was being discussed. Ndidi recorded a high passing accuracy. How you went ahead to add to what was not discussed surprised me. One of your additions included saying that i labelled Ndidi an accomplished ball passer.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 10:43pm On Sep 02, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
Below is a Breakdown of Ndidi's pass-types this season so far.. 81% passes in the opposition half is the whole picture but the wrong perspective. Sofascore didn't tell you how many are forward or backward or sideway passes.

According to Squawka using Opta data, we have:

Forward passes - 69
Backward passes - 30
Sideway passes - 162.


Also, Ndidi has completed 230 passes this 22/23 EPL season so far... only 2 are long passes.

Short passes - 228
Long passes - 2

Zero Through balls. Zero lines-breaking. Non-progressives.

I could even compare Ndidi's best season (20/21) to a random MF like let's say Idrissa Gueye also in 2020/21 and the passing Stats will not be funny.
Your reply to my post is not in context. You should have been patient to make out very well the information my reply to him conveyed.

I suggest you go back to reread the post you quoted.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 12:27pm On Sep 02, 2022
hatakekakashi:
Exactly. Most of those passes are between him and his CB patner, that's why he has 90% pass accuracy.
Stats says otherwise. Ndidi has good numbers in accuracy of passes whether as a CD or DM.
It should interest you that Ndidi's percentage of accurate passes in the opposition's half is at 81% and that is astonishing for someone reputed as being a poor passer of the ball.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 12:09pm On Sep 02, 2022
zicky:
I don't really understand this latest campaign against Ndidi, waa yesterday the first time he's playing as a make shift cb for Leicester. All of a sudden Ndidi is now the reason Nigeria don't play well. Some people are trying to push a narrative to portray Ndidi as not good in his role as a dm anymore.
Don't mind them.

I saw his stats. Ndidi is very good. It is just that he has been told to keep it simple.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 3:30am On Aug 30, 2022
Joebie:
So how does K. Nwakali rank so far?

7th (joint) in accurate passes per game
3rd (joint) in accurate long balls per game
27th (joint) in key passes per game
Thank you for these.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme:
TheSuperNerd:
Meliforme to Citizen:
You read my mind

I would have asked him to explain what he meant by poor technique, but i will let that statement slide past me.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 7:01pm On Aug 29, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
Chidera Ejuke: Highlights vs Dortmund

Courtesy: EaglesTrackerNG


Twitter link below:
https://twitter.com/EaglesTrackerNG/status/1564291222260391937?t=uBZB9sHuUg0n2VY28XT3GQ&s=19[/quote]Good understanding of the game of passing the ball.
Counter attacking threat.
Creating scoring chances for others is now on the increase, as evidenced in his key passes per game, and attempts at crossing the ball, unlike before.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 4:05am On Aug 28, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
Chidera "The Dazzler" Ejuke FT Stats for Hertha Berlin SC.

Hertha BSC 0-1 Borussia Dortmund - Bundesliga Matchday 4.

90mins+ played.
2 chances created.
65 touches.
32/40 accurate passes.
80% passing accuracy.
14 recoveries.
10/18 ground duels won.
9/13 successful dribbles.
1 corner taken.
2 shots off target.
1/3 accurate long balls.
Was fouled once.

*Ejuke completed the most dribbles/Take-ons in the game (9).

I love the way Ejuke's game is evolving.
He attempted 2 crosses of the ball, this is something i kept longing for in his games.

Also this is the first time, I have seen Ejuke take corner kicks.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 3:41am On Aug 28, 2022
Samueltemi337:
I don't think osimhen has ever started any game against Juventus before


The one he came from the bench he won a penalty in that match


I think he also won a penalty against inter Milan last season (I might be wrong)


Also won a penalty against Barcelona


His first serie a goal was against Atalanta


He scored two goals against Leicester city


And he has a goal against Lazio
Please tell him
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 4:18pm On Aug 27, 2022
TheLoneCitizen:
That brother's gone.
He was under Ejuke's ministration.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 9:37am On Aug 26, 2022
Danielnino00:
Awazeim's talent isn't in doubt.. However,it appears he isn't so keen on staying at one club. I may be wrong,but it looks like a lack of ambition...For somebody that played in the Portuguese,Spanish and French top tier, moving to Croatia isn't a good move... These kind of frequent loan moves aren't good for a player development..
You are right.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 1:44am On Aug 26, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
Chidozie Awaziem FT Stats for HNK Hajduk Split.

Hajduk Split 0-2 Villarreal CF - UECL
*Aggregate score: 2-6

90mins+ played.
62 touches.
44/50 accurate passes.
88% passing accuracy.
9/13 accurate long balls.
6/7 ground duels won.
2/3 aerial duels won.
100% dribbing success (1/1).
5 tackles.
1 interception.
1 clearance.
Was fouled once.


*Awaziem won the most duels in the game (8 ).

*Very Solid Defensive and well-rounded display from Chidozie Collins Awaziem today. Unfortunately no European football for him and Hajduk in 22/23. UECL Group Stage Ticket goes to Naija Robben and Villarreal
Chidozie Awaziem is very strong in duels.
He is arguably Super Eagles best defender as it stands now.
Some will come against this, citing his club and league, but today he played against Villarreal.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 11:37pm On Aug 25, 2022
Tolulopefinest:
Chidozie Awaziem is very good.

One of Nigeria's most underrated defenders.

Just unlucky not to be playing for the big clubs in Europe
Thank you, for saying this .
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 12:42am On Aug 24, 2022
TheGoodJoe:

I understand your point. However, developing his ball-playing skills will increase his value to us. Also, the reason of this argument is why top clubs skip Ndidi despite his quality. It has to do with his passing limitation.
The debate is on Ndidi's relevance to the Super Eagles midfield.
Maybe you have forgotten, below is the post that started the debate.

mostob:
I just pray his performance this season will be a stepping stone for Kelechi. The talent is there, he just needs to work hard more.

Call me whatever you want, I really wish to have Ndidi, Iwobi and Nwakali manning our Midfield.

But till then, Sultan, Onyedika and the likes should be invited for next friendlies.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 11:51pm On Aug 23, 2022
TheGoodJoe:

Watch the passing ability of Kalvin Phillips and you will understand why Guardiola insisted on getting him. If Ndidi is to play with the big boys, he must transform into more than a destroyer.

He has the ability. He just needs to change his mentality to a passer and see his game improve by miles. Open for passes. That is search for space where his teammates can find him. Then pass to players in space. Study Xavi and Paul Scholes over and over again. The Defensive midfield role is changing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i77EsprjHE
I understood very well the view you just painted, the qualities you accentuated, are not just for DM's, it is for every player, but let's not forget that the point (up) is on Wilfred Ndidi's relevance to the Super eagles midfield.

I stressed from the beginning on the quality in our players and why Ndidi is important.
We have goalkeepers that make us cede possession whenever the ball is theirs to distribute. We have CB's that battle with concentration, we have forwards that doesn't contribute much to defense (Moses Simon is excluded from this, Chidera Ejuke is also not guilty). We also have players with limited passing technique, making us cede possession when we are not to. You see why we need an elite destroyer like Ndidi, to help us clean up, break up the opposition's play, provide a good defensive cover etc.

The W.I.N triumvirate is the way to go.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 3:04pm On Aug 23, 2022
TheGoodJoe:

It is okay now, more like manageable. Did you watch Manchester City vs Newcastle? That was one hell of the fiercest pressing I have seen. That was Rodri and he literally found it difficult to build play. Rodri is one of the best in the World.

Now think of having someone like Ndidi in such system. It will prove Catastrophic. Ndidi needs to work on his passing and movement game.

That is why top clubs are overlooking him. When they check his passing stats, they don't stand out.
Good passing technique is a fundamental aspect of playmaking.
It is very clear that Ndidi is not a playmaker. He is a destroyer.

You talk about high pressing, questioning Ndidi's ability to cope. Do you believe Ndidi lacks the composure to cope with high press, have you seen situations like that? if you have, you can cite such.

What aspects of Ndidi's movements needs improvements, because a player's movement will depends on the team's phases of play.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 2:12pm On Aug 23, 2022
TheGoodJoe:
Ndidi has the work rate but he needs to develop his passing. A deep playing pivot is becoming key if you must play possession football.

You need a deep player that can combine with the defenders to play out of the back. I am seeing potential in Samson Tijani for that role. Ndidi might have to fall to defence but his passing might still prove a liability.
Considering the quality in the players we have, Ndidi will always be needed in midfield.

Ndidi will keep it simple. He is decent at making short passes, which is the most fundamental. This doesn't prevent us from building from deep.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 1:20pm On Aug 23, 2022
mostob:
I just pray his performance this season will be a stepping stone for Kelechi. The talent is there, he just needs to work hard more.

Call me whatever you want, I really wish to have Ndidi, Iwobi and Nwakali manning our Midfield.

But till then, Sultan, Onyedika and the likes should be invited for next friendlies.
Thank you Mostob.

You mean well for the national team.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 4:44pm On Aug 20, 2022
TheLoneCitizen:
Tell me you didn't watch the match without telling me you didn't watch the match.
What exactly did i get wrong.

What made you think i didn't watch the match.

Dude for the records, i saw the match.
Attack the points i made. Prove them wrong. Stop assuming.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 3:46pm On Aug 20, 2022
TheLoneCitizen:
Better goal threat.

Hit the woodwork.

More incisive dribbling. The big chance he made for himself saw him dribble from midfield to the box.

Ejuke's biggest highlight was when he went through four players before forcing a strong but easy save from Yan Sommer from long-range. Other than that, all footwork, no goalmouth action.
Better goal threat you mean?
This thread gives me a lot of laughter.
Both had only one shot on target. Lukebakio even missed a big chance.

Ejuke made more tackles.
Ejuke won more duels.
Ejuke made more accurate passes of the ball.

Ejuke was subbed off at 72 minutes, Lukebakio played all 90. I saw the game and to me Ejuke had more impact despite lesser minutes.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 12:20pm On Aug 20, 2022
TheLoneCitizen:
Don't agree. Lukebakio it was.
Why so?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 5:16am On Aug 20, 2022
mostob:
He actually has a point. We finished that game with 4 strikers on the pitch, two of which are tall yet no crosses from the FBs. Addo, realizing we surrendered the Midfield for attack brought in midfielders and changed formation. He stopped chasing the game and started pulling us around. Egu really fumbled that day.
I laugh in telugu whenever i hear that Eguavoen wasn't outclassed tactically.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 4:57am On Aug 20, 2022
Jojodjo:
Apt!!
I always liken Ejuke to Gray during his Leicester days.
Dribbles well yet is poor in making decisions.

Safe to say his football is yet to mature.
You don't watch him.

In the match against B. Monchenglabach, in my reckoning, Ejuke was the best performing forward of the two sides.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 7:20pm On Aug 18, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
Good point LoneCitizen. But take into context that it is f**king Manchester City's Rodri. That team is almost always on the front foot against most teams (several of which are weaker than City) and Rodri's heatmap won't read that way much in some games against tougher and almost equally matched opposition.
Take the heatmap below... It is Rodri's as well vs Chelsea at the Bridge in 20/21. 3-1 win for City but Rodri didn't venture forward so much.


Meliforme, permit me to come in and say this. Citizen is right as regards you probably making use of a Better and more elaborate heatmap showing Iwobi's offensive propensity.. and you could easily reference heatmaps from 16/17, 17/18, 19/20 and last season as well.

In all, heatmaps aren't black and white. It still has subtle interpretations. One must consider the in-game phases throughout the 90mins or more.
There are certain things he is yet to make clear such as what he believes an attacking phase to be. Because that will determine the relevance of heatmaps.

He said he will give me the numbers that reveals Iwobi's reluctance to join the attack. I am waiting.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 7:06pm On Aug 18, 2022
TheLoneCitizen:
TheSuperNerd broke it down for you, brother. Heatmap can be obscured by how possessive a team is.

Regarding Iwobi, eye test shows he isn't eager to join the attack but prefers effecting the game from deep. Even when he is player higher up the pitch.

That's eye test, sir, but I'll back it 100% with numbers.
I believe that you will come to grasp the good details revealed by heatmap.

It is important that you give your definition of an attacking phase, because there is a possibility that we have different views about it.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 1:27am On Aug 18, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
Courtesy of EaglesTrackerNG: K. Nwakali full highlights on his Ponferradina debut

Twitter link:
https://twitter.com/EaglesTrackerNG/status/1559888139216453633?t=pRF5j8_NSi5Wj7Qy2WdKIg&s=19

YT link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POg0Aslp3ws


I don dey laugh already. Lol grin


Note: YT Video may not play here thru NL due to La Liga copyright restrictions, but the video is still available on EaglesTrackerNG's YouTube page. If you are interested. wink
We see and discuss real quality while they are just busy gossiping about club affiliations.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 11:28pm On Aug 17, 2022
TheLoneCitizen:
Then why are you using it, since he has been deployed as a holding midfielder in both of his appearances.

Why not use data from last season, where he was deployed as a winger to prove your point?

How can you be shooting yourself in the foot like this, my good man?

You as an expert should know that heatmap doesn't show attacking or defensive ability, just workrate and versatility.

This is Rodri's heatmap. From your deduction, he is an attacking maestro.
Let's stick to context you said Iwobi's propensity to join the attack is very low.
A player's heat map bears every indication to the player's role during attacking phases . So you mean to say that a player's heat map showing how well the player frequents places higher up the pitch has no indication on the player's role during forays of attack.

How do you even define an attacking phase?

Before i delve deeper into heat map interpretations, I will like to know the markers that informed your stance that Iwobi's propensity to join attacks is very low.

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