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naptu,
What's your thought? She deserves flag at half-mast.

From God we came, to Him is our return.

Get her name for me. Whats her name?

Jamesbiodun:
na make up be modelling now abi, may Satan torment the person that invented make up in hell fire

Her dimensions speak for itself, no need for makeup.

Its like a man buying mercedes.

What do you need to waste all that money on mercedes for when a ordinary beetle will get you anywhere you need to go.

That make up na their mercedes.

See back! Chei!

I trust Ibo Yoruba woman to carry weight where it matters.

Jonasbadoo:
Abiribarians are not ohafia please
We are just under that local government
We're are a different clan

Abiriba and Arochuckwu are same clan.

SaintBeehot:
Sure I dy near Dem. if you hear pim, just pm me

SonOfAfonja:
eye them back!

I dey here dey eye their girls. Trust me nah!

LegendHero:
This is disheartening.

They should charge the classmate for manslaughter and make sure they interrogate him/her on the motive.

It’s absurd to think she will just mistakenly reverse and kill her just like that. did him/her reversed at full speed or which kind of report is this.

I don’t even trust the statement of the NAF, there might be more to this.

The whole thing is very suspicious.

If we cant trust Nigerian leaders with money, there is no reason to trust them with life.

SaintBeehot:
I no want hear say they use you dish pepper soup o.

Amotekun is on standby ready to storm Iboland if anything happen to a Yoruba here. We scatter Abiriba and capture slaves.

Ondo Primary is coming up in few days.

This is to remind my Egin brothers, vote YORUBA WOMAN First Lady in Ondo.

marriagebyigbo:
Well, ur mothers and sister are littlered here in brothels

Many ran away from yeast to live in. Brothel in oyo, ogun n Lagos

What are they selling?

History555:
Anybody that kidnaps you must be practicing because i doubt you can boast of 5million.

Ahhh, were!
Testing my pocket.

This guy na ogbologbo.

SonOfAfonja:
They eat them...

Chineeke! Im visiting over here currently. I hope no one is eyeing me.

Osaze007:
There’s literally no Igbo man in top 5 richest Nigerians where 2 ijebu people sit

If Otedola is still there make it three.

Adenuga, Alakija, Otedola are all Ijebu.

AtikuNetwork:
There is a rumour that they are cannibals. But I heard that was in the past.

There is no rumour about that. There is nothing past about it. Its a continued practice. They are my in-laws, I know.

Isobug:
Third Class?.......Anyway i'm from Afikpo in Ebonyi and since I was born I have never seen anything different between Abiriba,Ohafia,Arochukwu and Afikpo.

Greetings the same, Languages almost thesame, mode of farming thesame, Tradition thesame(apart from eyeing Visitors...lol ), Afikpo people are also modern and Well educated just like you may claim

What are they eyeing visitors for....

American woman caught in a romance scam freed after being held by lover for more than a year
By Bukola Adebayo, CNN
Jul 14, 2020

Lagos, Nigeria (CNN) - A man has been arrested for allegedly luring an American woman to Nigeria and defrauding her of $48,000, police told CNN on Tuesday.

The 64-year-old woman, who hasn't been named, said she met Chukwuebuka Kasi Obiaku, 34, on Facebook, police spokesman Frank Mba said. He invited her to Nigeria under the "pretext of love and marriage."

The woman, a retired government worker, arrived in Nigeria from Washington, DC, in February 2019, and they married three months later.
However, the relationship deteriorated soon after the wedding, and Obiaku kept her captive in a Lagos hotel for more than a year, Mba told CNN.

Obiaku used the woman's identity to extort her associates and swindle international companies.

He forced her "to use her American accent to ask associates and organizations for money. He made her assume several characters and in a particular case, he told her to act as a nanny on the phone to swindle some people," Mba told CNN.
He also took over her credit cards and collected her retirement payments for 15 months, a statement said.

CNN has not been able to reach Obiaku, who is still being held by police, to determine if he has a lawyer.


Mba said police are still investigating the accusations against Obiaku and they may bring cybercrime charges against him.
Social media warning
Mba said the suspect admitted to the police that the wedding in Lagos was a ruse to gain her confidence and later extort money from her.

The woman was eventually rescued after police received a tip-off about the case from another Nigerian.
The police said the arrest came after a similar case where they rescued a 40-year-old Filipino woman held captive by her lover whom she also met on Facebook.
He had kept her for six months and prevented her from returning to the Philippines, according to the police.
The man lured the Filipino national to Nigeria with the intention of "confining her, sexually abusing, and extorting money from her," Mba said in the statement, warning people to be more cautious when interacting with those they have only met on social media.

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All Rights Reserved.

May her soul rest in peace!

In 1820 a white British commander in lagos visited the oba he was an ethnographer he visited the then disposed oba, oba ovaramen who told the white British man that the obaship was established by a whiteman probably a whitegod who had criped into the palace unnoticed and slept with ogiso daughters, who got pregnant and birthed the obaship dynasty, oba eweka 11 after his ascension in 1914 made some unfounded statements for diplomatic reasons linking the benin dynasty to ife, purposely making the statem...

Call the police...this guy is high!

OmoOlofin:
Quoting from the foremost authority on precolonial Benin history, Professor D.M. Bondarenko. He writes and I quote here:

"In terms of this, it is remarkable that Oba, Benin Second dynasty rulers' title, is also the generic notion for designating supreme rulers' titles all over Yorubaland (for example, "Ooni is Oba of Ife" or "the Oba of Oyo is Alaafin" ).

In the meantime, none of the Edo-speaking peoples' rulers is called so except that of Bini*. ... Only the Benin rulers could correspond to the Yoruba "standard" in the Edo-speaking world, where other rulers governed societies whose complexity did not exceed the chiefdom level.

However, it looks unreasonable to reject the notion that the very title of Oba could appear in Benin due only to Yoruba origin of its holders.

At the same time, it is known that the Yoruba did not influence the political systems of other Edo-speaking peoples, that is, peoples whose rulers are not called Oba.

... Historically, ethnographic sources and European writings of the early and mid-sixteenth century (based on relations from Benin of the late fifteenth century) and of the early seventeenth century, also testify to the Second Benin Dynasty's links with Ife."

Reference: Dmitri M. Bondarenko, "Advent of the Second (Oba) Dynasty: Another Assessment of a Benin History Key Point", History in Africa, Vol. 30 (2003), p.71.
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In addition to the foregoing quotation, I would add that, the etymological origin of the Yoruba word "Oba" is from the Yoruba root-word "Ba" which clearly means: "[to] reign-supreme". And in that case, the word "Oba" becomes "the one who reigns-supreme". This is neat and straightforward.


An Edo bigot, on the other hand, would pretend that the word "Oba" is indigenously thiers. This argument, however, encounters an etymological breakdown as the only Edo root-word they may adduce have absolutely nothing to do with "kingship", "rulership", or "monarchy". The Edo root-word "Bà" means "red", "shine" .

cc: Trinitykey, Yujin

This is what Olfert Dapper, the European agbero that never left Denmark, referred when he said he "saw" the walls of Benin shine like mirror after its washed. mmmtccheeew......

Hold on, do they have OBA...or OMO N'Oba?

Africans are wicked sha. Why, why? Let the corpse rest now. Wetin he do una?

Macof,
I notice it did not take you too long to respond to everything else, I'm wondering why I have to wait long to get answer to my challenge. In case you are browsing through internet archives to find materials to aid your answer, Im glad to let you know that the answer to the challenge is not anywhere online. You are wasting your time if you rely on internet for assist. I can give you hint though to help your instinct.

There are many examples I can use to lead you in but since you have been stressing on Irin (Iron), it is a good one to use.

Irin is Iron, an object a tool. I'm sure to you, a linguist, it has cognates in Edo, Igbo and everywhere else in the Kwa group and in the mix with other consonants that convey the same utility idea. Underneath the word "Irin" there is a spirit. Because Yoruba is a spiritual race, Irin is not just an implement and a tool, it carries a deeper application. What is that depth? Irin signifies a crossing or a penetration between two or more dissimilar natures or realms or manifests.

Other occurrences of it -
In the Alpha it appears as ARIN (unity)
In the Beta it appears as IRUN (hair), IRAN (genealogy). This is the fork in the road between man and beast
In the Omega it appears as ORIN (divinity)

I am sure you have heard people say the harmony of the song made my hair stand on end...or gives me goosebumps! They are undergoing a spiritual effect triggered by the higher octaves in a song. The song resonates with the divine being inside, stirs up the organic nature and unites it with a realm beyond the present. This is what trance is.

So, Irin in its spirituality is that force which penetrates forces greater than itself. Think for a moment how Europeans understand this phenomenon and translated that force into technology. They have used Iron to reshape the surface of earth in far greater breakthroughs than I can list. Their understanding and application of this spirituality has not diminished their study of its physical principles and properties in academic quarters that teach engineering and chemistry. In fact they complement, not contradict each other.

Read and understand everything I wrote here thoroughgly, don't get carried away, use it as assist to answer to my challenge on OWO.
Goodluck!

2prexios:
History is already being written here my bro. This thread can never be bested anywhere in Yoruba scholarship in this IT age.

The fellow is a distraction.

I agree!

Once a while i go into it at random and review pages. Its amazing! There needs to be a backup copy of this thread.

BabaRamota1980:
Oga, what is going on? What are you finding in Imo? Yanminri women full Lagos, if you want virgin sef you go get. Abeg tell omoibo you dey play so their high blood pressure can go down. They are very unsettled at the thought of your trip to their homeland. They are farting and passing gas already.

Leave me and my inlaws alone joo.

We don chop ibowoman for West, go East chop am, next go be North. I hear they plenty for Kaduna.

Where is Anambralastson?
We don conquer Ibowoman for this obodo! We own her!

SaintBeehot:
Yoruba Woman as First lady in Yoruba land!!!

Yes, Always!

Igwe!

2prexios:
Boss,

All that this guy is trying to do is to take over the scepter of authority on Yoruba history on this platform and elsewhere.

He knows exactly what is in it for him.

That fame and glory and whatever that's in it for him is unknown to you and I but this fellow alone. We're threat to his agenda.

Exactly! I guarantee you many points from this thread will feature in the thesis he is working on.

Hey macof, make sure you give credits to this thread when you complete your thesis. Im about to thrash your kwa theories. Thats what they are....theories!

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macof:
Very hilarious comments, ultimately exposing more stubborn and committed ignorance. All 4 came hot because of my post on patterns of sound change.. That post really scared the hell out of all of you. It was fun to read the angry reactions and honestly it's just because I've given up on you people already otherwise it ought to be a sad thing. No messiah can save you from your hebetudinous intellect and willful ignorance.

I will explain for the last time to you on this matter of language.

#1 Yoruba placement
First of all, none of you are linguists and your command of the Yoruba language has been shown on this thread to be unimpressive so how can you claim to know that expert linguists are wrong on a matter you don't know enough about?

Scholars (Africans and non Africans alike) who have studied the Yoruba language and other languages in the Volta-Niger (East Kwa) language group, have reported the result of their study and research. And nobody has condemned the existence of a Niger - congo language group nor Yoruba Language 's relatedness to other languages in its immediate language family. So your blabbings are restricted to your clique of Hebrew and Arab wannabes who do not rely on facts.
Funny how you 4 can claim because a European was the first to come up with the label "Kwa languages" the idea must be false. When actually if . But it was also Europeans who came up with the idea of "semitic languages". So this point of referring to who came up with the idea is hypocritical. Trying to remove Yoruba from Kwa on grounds that the language group was labelled by linguists of European descent, only to try to put Yoruba in Semitic - a language group created by linguists of European descent
You all lack consistent arguments


Secondly, the fact that these language groups were first penned by someone of European descent does not mean the language groups are false. A thing is not false because of who said it.. A thing is false simply because it is not true nor based on anything that can stand scrutiny.

The linguists of European descent who were vital to the rise of linguistics in Africa were not racist or schizophrenic. That's an unnecessary label, one that is frankly untrue.
You don't think the semitic people who you want to be are racist despite all the things they wrote in their holy books? You think they like you? Anyway that's a topic for another day, another thread.

The placement of Yoruba, Ewe, Nupe, Igbo , Edo, Idoma, Igala, Fon fon, Ga etc as related languages have not been rejected by any renowned scholar, rather our knowledge of the science of these languages has improved because of the initial work that grouped these languages together. My own ongoing research for my thesis on ancient Yoruba history has been aided by the work of historical linguists so historians can testify.
[ And to respond to MetaPhysical who said I'm selling a book... No, I am not, I am writing a thesis not a book. Anybody can write a book to feed themselves if they are jobless these days, hoping people will buy it. But it's the reviews by scholars in the field that determine how relevant a book is. Simply writing a book doesn't make your effort relevant. It's the value of the content that makes it relevant ]

If you want some popular Yoruba linguists, here are some : Odutayo Akinkugbe, Bolaji Aremo, Abiodun Adetugbo
People actually study these things. So it's not for any of you 4 to tell linguists that they are all wrong when your argument makes no sense.


#2. Comparative Historical Linguistics
Even from my own research and reflection as a historian who has keen interest in linguistics
All Kwa languages possess identical properties... To name a few: a high and low tone and occasional mid tone; absence of gender and plural forms of words; no verb conjugations, nor change in verb morphology during change in grammatical aspects eg. O lọ : he goes / he went (lọ will always remain lọ in every aspect without undergoing a morphological change)

Plus I have demonstrated that there are patterns of change in the consonant sounds of words in Kwa languages



An etymon is a word or morpheme from which a later word is derived.
Cognages are words that share common etymological origin..

That is cognates are siblings and have an etymon as their parent.
You jump on my post to argue with my sound pattern without actually debunking it because you don't understand what cognates and etymon mean. You just have to jump on it because you can't agree to it and still claim Yoruba is semitic
Even you guys aren't dumb enough to contradict yourselves like that

But I'm waiting for you to actually show how those patterns are false

Cognates are not words that look alike when written down and share similar meaning. (Iron and Ìrìn are not cognates, neither are Apá and Apart)
That is not the meaning of cognate.

You have to study
1. The pronunciation of the words or change in pronunciation over time.
Words are phonological (concerning pronunciation) first before being about letters and alphabets

Iron and Ìrìn do not sound alike nor do they trace back in pronunciation to the same word

2. The break down of the words
Break the words down if possible into syllables and let's see if they still hold the illusion of being connected

3. Etymology. That is the original meaning of a word, or how that word came to be

The English word "Iron" does not come from Hebrew.
Here's the Hebrew word for Iron www.nairaland.com/attachments/11929452_20200713_pngd5ce797e9627f7006f42524bd2058735
And here again is the etymology of the English "Iron" from another internationally recognised source: online etymology dictionary
www.nairaland.com/attachments/11929451_202007133_pngfcd58e86ded9b890cc7b3e8f47d9a42e

And why are you trying to argue that Apá is cognate with Apart Apart comes from Latin "Ad Partem" .. Or now Latin too is a semitic language
Or Latin borrowed the word "Ad Partem" from Hebrew?

You guys are the bumbest 4 on this forum if you can't see the stupidity in this particular argument. It's hilarious because you guys really think you are making sense

Here are two links on the basics of historical linguistics. Explaining the comparative method and how two languages can be said to be related

[-https://linguistics.ucsc.edu/about/what-is-linguistics.html
-https://www.britannica.com/science/comparative-linguistics]

While you are saying Yoruba Apá is cognate with Latin Ad Partem
People who know better say Yoruba Apá (and Iká: finger) is cognate with igbo Aka

Here's a link to some linguists and anthropologists compiling a limited list of cognate words between Yoruba and Igbo (the two biggest Volta-Niger languages)

https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-similar-words-in-the-Igbo-and-Yoruba-Languages


# 3 Trusting Experts
Why can we trust the experts who say Yoruba language is related to languages spoken around Yorùbáland instead of trusting you random 4 young men who do not even belong to any academic community who say Yoruba language is not related to languages around but rather to languages over 7,000 Kilometers away in a different continent spoken by people who don't look anything like yorubas

1. There is no record of mass migration into Yorùbáland, Igboland, Idomaland, Igalaland, Edoland, Nupeland. We can assume based on this alone that these neighbours have lived close to each other for thousands of years and probably share common origin, so their languages must be related
2. These languages share identical properties. Tonal languages, No verb morphology, no definite article
In case you don't know what definite article means (which you 4 most likely don't) :
Definite article is the word "the" used before a noun eg. The Car.
3. Words like Ewure (Yoruba) - Ewe (Edo) Ewu (Igbo) : Goat
Akuko (Yoruba) - Okhokho (Edo) - Okuko (Igbo) : Fowl
Erin (Yoruba) - Eni (Edo) - Enyi (Igbo) : Elephant
Nti (Igbo) - Eti (Yoruba) : Ear
Ọnu (Igbo) - Ẹnu (Yoruba) : Mouth
Miri (Igbo) - Omi (Yoruba) :Water

You get the point?
Refer to my earlier link on similar words in igbo and Yoruba, you can also use any igbo dictionary to check the authenticity of the igbo words since you don't speak igbo

This is how you know people who went to school and take knowledge seriously

Interesting thing is that you may say that "Ọkhọkhọ" in Edo is cognate with "Cock" in English
But you will disagree that Ewu, Ewure and Ewe are cognates

I have given priceless education on this thread, hit you back to back with facts and information. That is yet to be debunked. I am waiting for any of you to show any of my statements false like I do with yours on a regular
At this point anyone who wants to learn more should simply ask questions.
I will be responding only to relevant posts on this topic from now on because it has been over flogged if anyone still thinks Yoruba language is not related to neighbouring languages then believe what you like. It is yourself you are embarrassing.

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Respond to my challenge.

Owo. What is its function as an exchange in Yoruba?

Daddysidhan:
Why you dey rush? Cool down Una time dey come abi you no Sabi metaphysical for nairaland again. I'm very sure the man has more than enough pictures already

No mind the Onitsha tout. I cant stand Anambra people.