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Omooba77:
This thread is Dr. @akin_adesina's response to 16 Allegations against him as President @AfDB_Group.
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ALLEGATION 1: Nt provided

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ALLEGATION 2: Appointment of Mrs Chinelo ANOHU-AMAZU

RESPONSE : Ms. Chinelo Anohu-AMAZU was recruited via a...
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globally advertised, open, competitive recruitment process. The search process was carried out by a top notch external recruitment firm, Russell Reynolds UK. She was 1 of 2 top candidates (both women) recommended to me as President to consider for appointment by the panel...

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But, I can state categorically that allegations made against her are untrue and defamatory.
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ALLEGATION 3: Appointment & promotions of Martin FREGENE

RESPONSE: Mr Fregene is NOT my brother-in-law. There is no evidence he is. Second, Mr Fregene is a worldclass geneticist..

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..internationally renowned for his work on plant genetics of cassava, and who worked earlier at CIAT, Colombia, one of CGIAR centres, and subsequently as Director at Danforth Plant Science Centre (probably the second largest private agricultural research centres in the US...

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He returned from diaspora to Nigeria to work as Chief Technical Advisor when I was Nigeria's Agriculture Minister. He was hired as consultant by the Bank's VP for Agric, Human & Social Development, Jennifer Blake, to support her in developing the Bank’s Feed Africa strategy

Omooba. How you dey?
I no dey see you for POLITICAL MATTERS again, wet in happen?

Let him prepare those answers for the probe panel. wet in me I know.

Those Children of perdition from South Yest that wailed about Kano for less than 100 deaths.

Their Messiah and Supporter in Chief of Biafra cannot save over a 100 thousand of his own people from COVID 19.

Children of perdition remove the log in your eyes.

Are They about reversing the privatization?

whitelotus:


Please, don't kill me with laughter. Stop being a bootlicker for Udatso.

You say that he destroyed my points but you cannot say how.

Even the very premise of this thread, none of you can answer- why is it that muslims need their own safe space on nairaland while other religions dont?

Atheist,

Exactly my point. Atheists don't know what is right, so, when an Atheist calls me a bootlicker, I am right.

I have no time for back and forth. You haven't said anything that might require a new answer.

This is supposed to be a safe space, yet you are here.

whitelotus:
Why are you asking me what puberty is?

People are marrying girls that have just reached puberty in the name of islam and that is your question. Are you morally bankrupt?

What is puberty?

udatso:
mhmsadyq
Sometimes you wonder if they actually digest what is actually right in front of them. I asked him to bring proof of the threat to Se.un's life, he claimed it to be a common Knowledge. That India won Nigeria in a game their goalkeeper turned to lion is a common knowledge doesn't make it true.

It pains me when supposed reasonable adult men listen to market women gossip and act on them. Clearly he is pained because this section is not opened to them to insult us in the name of criticism as much as they would have wanted even though some of them still do.

I can't believe he is so obsessed with me that he had to go through my many years post to know my stand even though I spelt it out for him here already. I didn't even need to check his profile to know his type. We have faced them before and many more would come.

My brother, in their heads, they are the ones that have superior knowledge, therefore they alone can determine what is right and what's wrong.

You have left him with a deep cut in his heart, which he will nurse for a very long-time.

Your stand is the stand of a faithful. May Allah continue to strengthen you in faith and wisdom.

I look forward to reading more of your replies to the enemies of Islam.

It is now June 12. No public holiday.

whitelotus:


The same udatso that was acting ignorant about the whole issue? In fact, I went through his profile and I saw that he was at the forefront of the fight for this section. And he was playing as if he didnt know that the forum owner's life was threatened.


And do you think this thread has done any favours to muslims? Only islam has its own section. Is that not a show of intolerance to criticism?

Is islam the only religion that gets criticised?

Bala Mubarak's case is pending.


You sound like those ignorant Mohammed Hijab fans. They support whatever nonsense arguments he puts up

Oga, you are just repeating your same rubbish udatso had super intelligently corrected.

I thought Atheism was about thoughts, until you met a superior thought from a Muslim like udatso and yours collapsed like a pack of cards. You even seem to be a learner.

What I can only add to udatso's submission is: there can never be a meeting point between Islam and Atheism, never!

Incase you need further clarifications always refer to udatso's post, all the answers you seek are contained.

Take care.

whitelotus:


The same udatso that was acting ignorant about the whole issue? In fact, I went through his profile and I saw that he was at the forefront of the fight for this section. And he was playing as if he didnt know that the forum owner's life was threatened.


And do you think this thread has done any favours to muslims? Only islam has its own section. Is that not a show of intolerance to criticism?

Is islam the only religion that gets criticised?

Bala Mubarak's case is pending.


You sound like those ignorant Mohammed Hijab fans. They support whatever nonsense arguments he puts up

Oga, you are just repeating your same rubbish udatso

whitelotus:
Puberty has been used for many centuries in islamic tradition to decide maturity for girls when it comes to marriage.


This is why Yerima, a nigerian senator married a 14 year old. A man in his 50s

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What is Puberty?

Then what is your contention?

whitelotus:
Lol.....you are asking your bros to run after accusing me of running!

Oga atheist, you met your waterloo in the hands of Udatso.

All these yeye laugh na to save face. Just go he has rubbished you and whatever you believe.

whitelotus:
I can see that you dont want to be honest.

Apparently, in your whole comment, it is clear you believe that muslims have never been the aggressors.

It is always atheists and other non muslims looking for trouble.


That kind of mindset is not only biased, it is also dangerous.


Goodbye

Journey mercy!

If you ask me, Udatso has ended it.
Just go over his words again and again, just maybe you will see the wisdom of Islam in his words.

whitelotus:
A clown for telling the truth.

What is the ruling on marriagable age in islam? I dare you to answer.

Paedophilia is not Islam. It is a term coined by the west and been sold to the world.
There is no specific age for marriage in Islam, but to be marriageable, there is maturity, both physically and mentally.

It is the west and atheists like you that defined child marriage cos you want to create a perfect world without God. So, any practice that you cannot fathom you label it all kinds of names.

I also believe like many Muslims do, that a girl child should be mature enough before getting married. But you see poverty contributes a lot to marrying out girls very early by families who practice that and not cos the religion of Islam obligates it.

fk001:
Ki/ka bada space a rubutun ki/ka


Oil belongs to all of us, it belongs to the entire country. The notion that only northerners occupy NNPC and her sister's agency is a lie, each and every region is equally represented if you stay in Abuja go and see for yourself pls just go there as a visitor.


We love our SW, SS and few sensible SE brothers.

Gaskiya. Very few SE brothers.

Sagay212:
We are not talking state allocation. We are talking nepotism. The fulanis giving bogus contracts to their brothers, giving govt appointments and jobs to their brothers who are half educated or not educated at all. They collect free money and end up messing the country up because they do not have the required knowledge to come up with ideas to run the office they got through nepotism.
And talking about govt allocation, what are your northern leaders doing with it? Why are there so many almajiris both young and old while the children of the politicians and few elites are showing off RR and Bentley that they can't even pronounce properly.

If you think they are so hardworking and masters of agriculture as they claim, then let us restructure the country and let every region manage their resources and let people be employed based on merits and not quota system. Then we will see if they'll be able to flaunt RRs, bentleys, Ferrari, etc. You think we don't know why they are ready to kill for power?

Go ahead and restructure the country abeg.
Enough of paper restructure.

zcee:
Too much sight seeing of poor hausas in my area esp their females makes me think that they don't have beautiful ones among dem but this pic has made me to believe it..

Oga, where be your area?

GODPUNISHALABI:
Seriously all this cars this people are flaunting we have them x10 in the south in the hands of common yahoo boys or drug pushers even musicians not even buisnessmen politicians or entrepreneurs ..... and wealth is evenly distributed in the south compared to the north so I don’t see why they abokis are feeling funky.........even in that Abuja we know the real people running the real estate sector there...they should keep stealing oil money Shebi oil go soon finish

Yahoo boys, Drug pushers... Well I can excuse musicians.

Anyways, flaunt dem make we see, EFCC no dey here.

Chochosky:
Most people in the south can afford 10 rolls Royce's but won't cos its der sweat. Nd not stolen . They would rather use the money on scholarships tar der village roads. Buy transformers. They have cousins nd inlaw who need capitals to start up biz. Before I would buy a rolls royce my relatives must b average if not I wont be safe. Even my community must have benefitted from me. So dont envy dem cos dey dont have same philosophy like us.

LOL
It is good to make yourself happy, even with lies.

fk001:
We like them that way, they ain't public properties or sluts that they will display their body.


Let me give you an example

For Instance Nkechi wears clothing that shows her cleavage and her boobs are outside, with a skimpy skirt above her thigh


While Fatima wore a native attire that covers all seductive part of her body in an appropriate way.

As a matured responsible guy which one will you go for and ask her to marry you?

Thankyou OP. Abeg pepper dem more with pictures of our beautiful sisters. Let dem compare with their slaying prostitutes, especially from south yest/shouts.
Dem never see another man's farm.

Agboriotejoye:
Unfortunately you're reducing the quality of the debate. It was supposed to be a dispassionate discourse but you've reduced it to a forceful declaration of faith with no factual backing.

E.g. I showed you that gays now pray in mosques in the West. You neither denied or accepted that fact but insisted gays will never be accepted in Islam when all the facts prove otherwise.

Till now, you have not shown how any tactics or superior strategy Islam will use to conquer the liberal ideologies of the West. Your best bet which is the political divide has failed with the London mayor and the Muslim congresswomen in the US who have been effectively shut up.

You don't really seem to understand what the West does to religion. They don't care how many times you pray or fast or which tourism you take yearly. Just as Christians still go to church on Sundays, celebrate Xmas and Easter and go on pilgrimage to Jerusalem. But, at the advent of coronavirus, both churches and mosques were locked up. On the doctor's orders not imam or pastor. Gays and transgender are allowed into the places of worship regardless of what your religion thinks of them. Women are allowed to choose whether to wear hijab or not and not as a requirement. You can't marry a thirteen yr old girl in the West!! Neither can you choose polygamy. Or pass a fatwa on atheists. That's the reality of what I'm saying. You haven't shown how Islam will right these "wrongs".

To your question. While it is not ideal for a Christan to marry outside the religion, there's no law that expressly forbids that. If you're convinced in your spirit that she's the right one for you then go ahead. There's no compulsion in choosing a life partner where Christianity is concerned.

Sir.
The West is in the post Christianity era and in the pre Islamic era. All the vices you highlighted are what the Christians compromised to allow to fester side by side with Christianity. Christianity at a point dealt with these vices, maybe through whims and caprice, rather than scripture.


Now, the gays in mosques in Europe and America are guided by perversion and encouraged by the states. Muslims are gradually pushing for their rights as Muslims which they are gaining successes in some areas, some I mentioned in my earlier post.
The climax shall be the recognition of the Muslim laws, especially the social regulations. When these happens, all those perverts claiming to be Muslims shall have to look for another religion. They can call it Islam, but the Muslim population then will know what really Islam is.

The Mayor and congresswomen are still a drop in the ocean, but I am sure they will speak for Islam in parliament. You may think they have failed, cos you haven't heard much from them. Time like I always say will tell about that.

Once Muslims can regulate themselves according to the shariah of Islam, shikenan. Deviants can be handled according to Islam.

You are the one defining child marriage for Muslims yet you are not a Muslim or telling us why polygamy should be abolished bla...bla... are Muslims complaining? Yes. Can we see them?....

You have your bias as a Christian which I understand. Pilgrimage to Makka is a religious rite in Islam and not tourism as you alluded.

Yes, Myself wasn't happy with closure of worship places. Corona shall pass. Even at that, nobody said we shouldn't pray, we were only advised to do it in isolation. They are issues of concern but not to loose sleep over. After all those places are being reopened even in USA the worst hit.

I must say, I have learnt from you.
Thank you for your time and patience.

Agboriotejoye:
Sorry sir.

You did not. What you did is an expression of faith which is what led Christianity to the cocoon it presently finds itself. Even the Bible says faith without works is dead!! Very dead!!

You have not explained how Islam hopes to silence the atheists. Is it by beheading them? Do you really think a day will come in the West when beheading for apostasy will once again become the order of the day? Is that not part of the dark past of Christianity you pointed at? Or you mean it's dark when it's done by Christianity but acceptable when done by Islam. How exactly will Islam be able to convince the West to do away with atheists and scientologists? You think a jihad will do? Where missionaries have failed you think your sheikhs stand a chance?

I gave you an example of how Saudi Arabia is beginning to embrace liberalism. You don't think that's a threat to pure Islam. I'm sure you're smart enough to see how it's going the same route Christianity went. They're allowing Islam to Europe on their own terms. Soon, they'll begin to export their own brand of Islam.

Islam has never had a philosophical or propaganda angle. It's always been my way or Hades. I will really be interested to tell me how Islam intends to penetrate the West stealthily. Hope you know we now have gay Muslims, transgenders etc. They enter and pray in mosques over there without any hindrance. Heck. Bobrisky in Nigeria is of Muslim background. Same with the first openly gay Nigerian man. I tell you. You have not told me how pure Islam intends to fight these demons off!!

Well my brother.
Whatever you are expressing are your personal opinion which I am not obligated to change but time may. I don't want us to be going round in circles, cos you are already opinionated as a christian, I can only give my views as a Muslim.

It is not for me to give a detailed plan of how Islam intends to achieve Europe especially and America, I will be over reaching myself.
It is obvious in my opinion that Europeans have lost faith in Christianity, they want something different, something pristine and Islam is in the fore to give them those. They are now more open to Muslims, asking questions about Islam. Islamic scholars even from Nigeria are being invited to Europe and America to present papers on economics, governance, politics, science, society and culture from the Islamic perspective.

Islamic finances and investments are beginning to find acceptance in their systems. Muslim women with hijab are being accepted, worship centre and Islamic education are springing up etc. These were never permitted during the Christian era.

The philosophy? Islam won't compromise on it fundamentals. How possible? very possible.

Islam will make someone like Bobrisky know that he cannot be a gay or transgender whatever and remain a Muslim, no way!
Even if Bobrisky is from a Muslim background, that doesn't mean he is a Muslim and clearly what he does, said it all. Bobrisky cannot go to an Islamic society to claim he is a transgender or gay, the laws are there to take care of him and his likes.

Saudi Arabia reform is their problem, not the problem of Islam. The point should be how does women not allowed to drive affects the laws of Allah or the other way round. After all Muslim women are allowed to drive in other parts of the globe. Muslim women have been involved in sports form other parts etc. These are not fundamentals so they are subject to regulations by the society.

What does your evolve means?
That it will become acceptable that Muslims no longer worship five times daily, that they don't fast in Ramadan, that gays are permitted among us, that pilgrimage will be to America or elsewhere etc.
Sorry sir, these can never happen.

You are either a Muslim or you are not. perverts are totally unacceptable in Islam.

Yorubas ain't doing anything wrong by marrying Christian ladies, but it debatable if a Muslim lady should marry a Christian man.

Does Christianity permits Christians to marry non Christians?

Agboriotejoye:
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I hope you're aware that London whose mayor is a Muslim like a pointed out earlier has the most pro-LGBTQ+ laws. What has khan done to imbibe Islamic values in contemporary London life? He's at home with gay laws. That's a pointer to what I'm talking about. You can give me examples where Islamic ideologies are being embraced in replacement of western/atheism values.

Saudi Arabia banned driving and sports cause they were taught to be male activities which no woman had no business doing in consonance with the tenets of Islam of a woman being under the authority of a man. Now, they've been unbanned in response to women and gender equality activists which are surely anti-Islam you'll agree. What I'm suggesting is there's nothing to show Islam is winning the war so far.

Atheists have no place in any religion. But they seem to have so much influence in the western society. In Islamic society, you do agree a fatwa for their beheading will be the solution. How exactly will that pan out in the western society which embraced and encourages them?

I have answered your questions up there, you haven't raised new issues.
These are your thoughts, which you are entitled to.

For emphasis, Islam will only tolerate atheists while they consolidate on their spread in Europe. The moment Europe is safely Islamised, atheism will be history.

Islam will never as far as I understand, compromise with atheists, never.

My brother, Islam is already penetrating Europe and America. It is a matter of time before the sound of Allahu Akbar will cover the skies of Europe. Islam will end all the present ungodliness Christianity chartered with which eventually consumed it.
It's a tall order but Islam will achieve it. Time is the only remaining factor.

Agboriotejoye:
Well... That man's posting is evolve or self-destruct. It's to wait and see which will occur.
Let's assume without conceding that Christianity lost the battle against NWO/civilisation. How exactly does Islam intend to conquer in that regard? London for example now has a Muslim mayor yet gay rights are fully entrenched under his nose. Shall we say Islam has also failed or the man is a failed Muslim. Can he pass a fatwa against homosexuality? It's obvious that to be able to keep Islam in its purest form especially in the West, it's not going to be an intellectual or philosophical war. What's the big plan Islam has to conquer NWO? Even in Saudis and some other middle East countries, moderations such as women driving, singing, watching sports and working are beginning to be embraced. Let's see how you think this will benefit the "pure" Islam in the long run. Don't forget, evolve or self-destruct.

I'm not talking about reading and accepting proofs that Allah exists. Atheists will tell you those are illogical tissue of lies. Are they assured of their safety in Islam if they were to say such?

Saudi Arabia has their reason for banning women from driving until recently and I don't think there was anytime they condemned women driving elsewhere. The issues of driving, sports music etc are left for the society to regulate as deemed fit.
Islam must resist being a dump for all kinds of ideologies in the name of civilization, but like Christianity that eventually lost the struggle to civilization, it is only time that can tell.

As Muslims gradually hold political positions in Europe especially, at a point they will begin to push for Islamic values, which is already happening in many European countries, they have started recognizing Islamic values and this will continue.
We believe it's time, but it will eventually happen.

Atheists have no place in islam, cos they are the foundation of most evil we see in Europe and around the world. It is the denial of the existence of God that makes man thinks he can do anything and won't be accountable at a point.
Atheists and Islam cannot be together, simple.

Christianity also rejected them initially, somehow lost to them later.

Agboriotejoye:
I agree with you. There are fanatics everywhere. The question is how you treat the fanatics in your midst. A lot of Muslim leaders and even followers actively provide covers for their fanatics while you hardly see that in Christianity.

In terms of intolerance, I can assure you that Islam does not face as much ridicule and attack as Christianity faces. But you hardly see terrorism sprout out of Christianity because Christianity embraces philosophy and criticism from itself first, then from outsiders. It is this safe knowledge that has allowed atheists a field day where Christianity is concerned.
Are they allowed such latitude in Islam? Can someone ask for proof of the existence of Allah and not risk his head?

I had admitted it earlier that one major problem facing Islam is the extremists or fanatics amongst us. But it is a stage that will eventually pass.
Christianity over the years has gone through reforms by the Europeans. In fact at a point in time it was the state religion in many European states. Atheism, gayest etc were criminalized in Europe during the Christian era. Today, Christianity has lost it values, those crimes are now being enshrined in their status books. Can they be justified using the bible?
Islam on the other hand came with it own laws which governs and regulate the everyday life of a Muslim. There is this conflict between Islam and the NWO which is sweeping Christianity away from Europe, it former strong hold.

Islam doesn't want to suffer the fate of Christianity in Europe, where every innovation is dump into it.

Yes you can ask for the proof of the existence of Allah. Infact the Quran contains the proofs of the existence of Allah in hundreds of verses.

Agboriotejoye:
Exactly what I was telling that guy who claimed Islam is evolving. Those are core tenets of Islam and can't be changed by a simple evolution as he implied.
cc: kafeii123

To your other response. Do you mean to blame non-Muslims for Islamic terrorism? You see why I said it is always rich for a Muslim to accuse someone else of fanaticism
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I didn't understand what you mean by we all know the answer in you earlier post. That could be subjective of you, which is also a problem.
Islam is a complete religion and way of life.
Islam does not believe any of it tenets as enshrined in the Quran can be modified, except where it is not expressly stated by Allah.

Like what some of you are doing on this forum, clearly show your intolerance of Islam.
This can only breed intolerance from some Muslims as well.

Go to the Muslim section, post this same question and compare the comments with what you have here.

There are fanatics everywhere, Christianity is no any exception.

Agboriotejoye:
Of course it's rhetorical. We all know the answer. I don't know your view when they started but your leaders sure did not condemn them. Even till now, some speak from both sides of their mouth where BH are concerned.

Some you said. It's Ok.

Agboriotejoye:
It is so. But it is more that while they started, muslims did not call them to order but left them to their devices. That is why I said it is rich for a muslim to label another a fanatic. Where was ur voice when Shekau and co were brewing?

I take this to be a rhetorical question, else you tell what you know about my view when they started.

Agboriotejoye:
You truly believe a day will come when islam will not demand that a woman wears hijab? Or that polygamy is not allowed? Or that child marriage is not allowed? Hope you know these things are clearly written in their scriptures.
It is one thing to be misguided and another thing to modify the tenets of a religion in the name of liberalism. Hope you realize the above tenets are tenets of the religion not some misguided ideas.

These are some of the core tenets of Islam which no Muslim should have a problem with.

The major problem facing Islam today is extremism ( fanaticism and fundamentalism).
With time Islam shall get over.

The other external problem, the pressure from non Muslim, wanting to tell the Muslim what is right and wrong in their faith, which is the cause of some of the resistance across the world. Like the issue of child marriage, Muslims may not subscribe to a definition by the non Muslims. These are some of the issues.

Otherwise, Islam is perfect.

Agboriotejoye:
How rich for a muslim to call someone a fanatic
What do you say to Shekau and his brothers then

They started like this.

Agboriotejoye:
You still do not get it do you?
You said it yourself that islam bears so much similarities with the Old Testament religion and you're right. Paul told the Galatians that if the Old testament religion could save then there will be no need for Christ to come. It was because the ceremonies of the Old religion could not save the soul that demanded the entrance of Christ to the scene.

Till today, Jews see Christians as apostates and same with islam. Or have you not been asked by a Muslim how God could have a son? Who was is wife? Are you implying that God had sex? Nothing like salvation. It's your supplications and good works that will be minused from your sins to determine if you make hell or heaven. etc etc

I hope you can see this fundamental differences now.

Is the old testament still relevant today?