somehow:


My offer is towards Twinskenny's acceptance sir.

It is well sir... God bless you...

OGA spyder880..... thanks so much... i saw alert of ₦20k... YOU ARE INDEED A BLESSING TO US HERE ON THIS FORUM.. MY RESPECT FOR YOU HAVE INCREASED.... God bless you sir...

somehow:


I will assist you with ₦10k since the funding was done through you which put you deep into the transaction.

Let me have your details or that of the client sir.

GTBank..0036162254.. ADEGBENGA

dangoteinlaw:
na wa o, see how helpless baba now is. But this is similar to what you almost did me, anyways maybe you are getting what you ve done others in the past. The internet is a good place to appear faceless and still get help. Thanks to those who volunteered to contribute, I would have done the same but no, i will pass.

The world is round indeed...

bros.. where i know you from ... please feel free to share our past interrogation here... i have done company registration for more than 300 nairalanders without complains...over 200 commendations many commendation on my trend https://www.nairaland.com//27

spyder880:


What can I say now? The mistakes has been made, we trusted someone whom we dont know very well with a clients money and he disappears. Happens all the time, I wont blame Twinskenny too much because he might have done this with his best intentions, he has also offered some refunds and did some leg work. I wont also blame the client too much because he wants to get value for his money.

I will like to donate N20,000 towards the resolution of this issue. We might be here all month and still achieve nothing with the back and forth. Lessons are being learnt, we wish to go back to learning and creating more business for all of us. Please advice me on the account details.

God will bless all of us. Amen.

THANKS OGA spyder880.. i appreciate your concern.... GTBank... 0036162254... Adegbenga.. Will let the house know when i see alert..

n3xt:


Elder Spyder880, abeg I have one burning issue to resolve. Shey make I send account?

Thanks! Thanks for all you do. It matters a lot.

If things keep going these way, police will be out of business very soon.

________

@micgray100, baba God will surprise you this week. Abeg let it slide!

Oga N3xt ... thanks for your contributions too.. i would have moved on... but i myself is currently facing financial challenges.. remember you are my helper when i cried for job for registering KoboCity with CAC... lost of 100k is alot to me presently as a civil servant..

twinskenny:

… what you sent through me has been used by the guy for the purchase of materials and foe the little work they did…

LIES...
I paid the casing pipe seller myself 100k... your fraudster Borehole guy only added 50k from the 200k to complete the payment of the pipe... I am now thinking TWINSKENNY is part of this fraud....

From the begining the guy visited my site.. I told you and him am a civil servant here in Abuja.. I told you in strong words that I am not on ground.. that all I want is result... I stressed the word... RESULT... before I sent you the money for mobilization..

I told you from the begining I have no business with police.. They even advised you here on the forum that police isn't the right way.. that instead you use the police tracking money to refund me...

TWINSKENNY.. Refund my money...

ELDERS IN THE HOUSE... PLEASE HELP CONTRIBUTE TO THIS ISSUE... I BELIEVE ME AND TWINSKENNY WILL RESPECT YOU ALL ON THIS FORUM...

police, tauts or lawyer is not an option for me.. because I will end up spending more... which I don't even have as a civil servant on little salary...

Elders please talk to us...

Mobilization was of 200k was sent through TWINSKENNY account...
I sent the money to him because of the he is also regarded as elder here in the forum...

Please Elders...
spyder880
N3xt
egunmogaji
gbadexy
rmx
kopell
topsy
rottec
dfameguy
Qsfemi
abuiltech
kentucky
money121

ELDERS IN THE HOUSE... PLEASE HELP CONTRIBUTE TO THIS ISSUE... I BELIEVE ME AND TWINSKENNY WILL RESPECT YOU ALL ON THIS FORUM...

police, tauts or lawyer is not an option for me.. because I will end up spending more... which I don't even have as a civil servant on little salary...

Elders please talk to us...

Mobilization was of 200k was sent through TWINSKENNY account...
I sent the money to him because of the he is also regarded as elder here in the forum...

Please Elders...
spyder880
N3xt
egunmogaji
gbadexy
rmx
kopell

Born2conquer:

And if you won’t mind,
Drop the borehole guy’s number here and his name

Let the people of this wonderful thread bombard him with messages and threats.

I believe he will do the needful after

Fraudster Borehole guy number... 0803 227 0144....from TWINSKENNY..

megacontrol:
This is sad to see someone practically begging for his own money back just because he is being a gentleman.

Bros, I think at this point you’re being taken for granted by both the contractor AND the middleman.
You also seem to have an exaggerated perception of this “house”. Hope you’ve learnt it counts for nothing.

You should either do what others have done here in such cases with success or use street OT to deal with it, otherwise na voicemail.

I feel your pain and loss.

THANKS ELDER megacontrol for feeling my pains too.... it is now a crime to trust someone in the forum again...

i have learnt my lesson from this transaction not to trust anyone here on the forum again..... i hope the new bees too use my own situation to learn

megacontrol:
This is sad to see someone practically begging for his own money back just because he is being a gentleman.

Bros, I think at this point you’re being taken for granted by both the contractor AND the middleman.
You also seem to have an exaggerated perception of this “house”. Hope you’ve learnt it counts for nothing.

You should either do what others have done here in such cases with success or use street OT to deal with it, otherwise na voicemail.

I feel your pain and loss.

THANKS ELDER megacontrol for feeling my pains too.... it is now a crime to trust someone in the forum again...

i have learnt my lesson from this transaction not to trust anyone here on the forum again..... i hope the new bees too use my own situation to learn....

flexyonline:


Sir, sorry that I chook mouth in your matter. I will never do that again.

Seriously though, all the snide remarks and passing of corners to talk is unnecessary. Maybe because of my day job where I have to take these decisions everyday, I have learnt when to take my losses and optimize for the best outcome in spite of the circumstances. Since you insist, I believe what you need to do is step it up a notch however you can I.e. police, thugs, ayelala etc. Whatever you do, just make progress! You have been on this point too and bringing the issue to this thread will not give you 100k. So please ACT! however you can.

THANKS FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING... I WILL ACT IN DUE TIME... I HOPE THE ELDERS IN THE FORUM WONT BLAME ME WHEN I START TO ACT LIKE A WOUNDED LION...

Born2conquer:

Recovering debt is one thing i pray not to ever do again in my life,

I bought something from this guy(big CEO) last year November and he failed to deliver, i asked for refund and he’s been playing me since.

The same CEO still post goods worth millions on his page daily and still even went on vacation last week with his wife.

I don use police, Efcc and co! And even the amount spent sef don almost reach 20% of the whole money yet the guy is not moved.

Getting a debtor to pay is purely LUCK and God’s grace and now how you’re wicked. (My money with him is over 1M)

My advice to you, if you value your peace of mind, drill the borehole with your money and count your loss.

THANKS FOR YOUR ADVICE Born2conquer.... MAY YOUR DAYS BE LONGGGG...

THE THING IS THAT I CHERISH THIS FORUM ALOT AS A FELLOW PROFFESSIONAL IN THE BUILDING INDUSTRY....
IT IS VERY UNFORTUNATE THAT THE LEVEL OF TRUST THAT WE SUPPOSED TO BUILD TOGETHER IN THIS FORUM IS GOING DOWN THE DRAIN...
LIKE I SAID EARLIER IN MY WRITE UPS.... THIS IS JUST A LITMUS TEST FOR ALL OFUS HERE... THE SO CALLED TRUST WE HAVE FOR SENIOR MEMBERS HERE ON THIS FORUM ISN'T THEIR ANYMORE...

I WILL STILL KEEP MY CALM TILL MORE ELDERS OF THE FORUM TELL TWINSKENNY WHAT HE IS EXPECTED TO DO..

THIS ISSUE HAVE DRAG FOR SO LONG... NOT BECAUSE I AM WEAK OR SLOW HEADED.. BUT BECAUSE I RESPECT THE INDIVIDUAL INVOLVE IN THIS ISSUE... IT CAN BE ME TOMORROW..

ELDERS IN THE HOUSE... PLEASE HELP ME COMPEL TWINSKENNY REFUND MY MONEY...

I LOVE PEACE....

WE ARE STILL IN BUSINESS OF COMPANY REGISTRATION...

More than 200 Commendations from fellow nairalanders on this trend....

REGISTER YOUR LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY WITH JUST A TOKEN... 70k with duration of 5 working days..

Whatsapp or call.... Mr Gbenga....
Zero, Seven, Zero, Three, Two, Seven, Two, Eight, Nine, Four, One.

flexyonline:


Bros, I know you will not like to hear this but I think it is time to cut your losses and move on. Take the 100k as school fees in the school of the streets. I am talking as someone who has had to deal with issues like this on my build. Some workmen are just unfortunate fellows and you do not allow their issues hold you back. Try to learn from this and come up with a process that works for you in these transactions. Sorry eh.

I understand your point bro... But if only you know how long it took me to get the 100k put together as a civil servant .. I am sure your so called street will help me cry and refund me to go in peace...
Some of us contribute as low as 25k every month from salary just to build a simple structure.. Oga flexyonline... as a street credibility sure guy that 100k is nothing to...please kindly help contribute a token from the 100k in contention left...
Gtbank... 0036162254.. Adegbenga..

n3xt:


Thanks for sharing with us. I have few questions sir.

1. You said the only thing done on site so far is that the guy brought the casing pipes. Does this imply the guy hasn’t drill at all?

2. If yes, at what point did you decide to pay him additional 100k after the 200k you sent through @twinskenny?

3. Was it after he brought his equipment to site? Or after he brought the casing pipes?

4. Have you tried reaching out to the guy on your own to understand his challenge and both look for a way to resolve amicably?

I think the N50k offered by twinskenny is fair enough and you should do all you can to chase up the guy to get him to complete the job or refund you for job not done.

Even if it means appealing to Twinskenny to help you prevail on him or apply force.

Here’s my recommendation:

- Divide the balance of N150,000 between all the parties involved (Yourself, the Contractor and twinskenny).

- Approach the contractor to let him know your decision to officially terminate the contract and ask for a refund of N50k from him.

- Write him officially and give him ample time to respond to you. He might have good reasons.

- If he’s unreachable or can’t read/write, pass your resolution across to him through twinskenny.

_________

So far, so good you’ve been able to recoup 66% of what you’ve spent. If you’re able to get additional N50k from the guy, you’d have recovered 83%.

The remaining 17% to be borne by you should be recorded as “experience fee”

Thanks for your contribution Oga N3xt... On the questions you asked...

1, The guy has only drilled less than 30feets... and we agreed 200 feets above (65meters to 70meters) Every new borers I took there don't even regards the 30feets as a job... they are requesting for full money...150k above ..


2, The additional 100k was paid to him at point of sales of the pipes... this is because he didn't buy the pipes from the initial 200k deposit.. The pipe was bought after his driller develop problem.. I had to used the pipe buying as a way of recovering my money... it tools the intervention of my sister before he could add 50k to my 100k to buy pipes..

3,Like I said earlier.. he bought the pipes because I pressurized him to.. our agreement was that he will buy the pipes from the initial 200k... but when he failed.. I had to force him to buying pipes by 100k to it.

4, I have tried all to reach out to the guy.. he just reads my messages without reply.. He still even upload new jobs he is doing in his watsapp status.. I don't know how TWINSKENNY could relate with such a person..

The 50k offer of TWINSKENNY plus my 50k is just 100k..

the new drillers are charging 200k to 250k currently...

mine is who will balance this remaining balance...

I have requested a 100k refund.. or he TWINSKENNY collects the 100k with me and find who to complete it according to our earlier agreed contract..
Like I always say... this is test to this forum...
I don't want us to deviate from customers satisfaction here... customers sacrificing his hard earn money is not a good omen for us here on this forum...

How will everyone feels if I collect job of designing structural engineering drawings here from someone in the forum without delivery in full.. and tell the client to sacrifice..

it may be anyone tomorrow.. let us call a spade a spade on this forum...

my 2 cents ...

n3xt:


Someone else would buy that “the true shape will come out when it’s dry” story.

I don’t fire people who mess up, I help them with lesser functions and keep them as a spare tire in case our newly found love chose to mess up.

UPDATE ON THE ABANDONED BOREHOLE PROJECT BETWEEN MICGRAY100 AND TWINSKENNY.

1, As at today... the project remained abardoned...

2, Last 4 days, TWINSKENNY said he is tired of the whole situation and he can only refund N50k to me as compensation which he sent to me...

3, Amount I have paid is 300k from the 350k agreed for just drilling and piping

4, Job done to site is only buying of casing pipes which amount to 150k...

5, House... I have requested for just 100k refund... which TWINSKENNY said he can't pay it but could only afford to refund 50k...

I will drop the agreed quotation here on the job here... and let the house decide if my 100k refund is justified or not...

Here is the Quotation......
4nos 5" of 5mm thick 19500×4=78000
10nos 5" of 3mm casing 9500×10===95000
8mm rope ===4500
Grave pack 600×5==3000
Topgit== 1200
Milpack chemical 500×2==1000
Antisol chemical 3500×2==7000
Transport===3 to 4k

Drilling =170,000

Mykel51:


Someone shared a screenshot of a page from a technical report by the National Academy for Science and Engineering where it showed that one can have a framed building spanning up to 100m without an expansion joint. I would share the screenshot below. What are your thoughts on that ?

is the technical report Originating from Nigeria?.. if No.. is not to be used for guidance...

if yes.. please let me know where to download the report,.

generally what guide Engineering designs in Nigeria is the British code .

UPDATE ON THE ABANDONED BOREHOLE PROJECT BETWEEN MICGRAY100 AND TWINSKENNY COMING SOON...

HINT: The project is still abandoned as today 24th August, 2021.... More details coming

Mykel51:


But the length of the building is more than 30m, why don't I need an expansion joint ?

The rule of thumb is to introduce expansion joint at every 30meters length of structures... But to be on the safe side....
Share the design here so we the proffesionals can advice you accordingly... the position of the expansion joint is located based on the design...

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Mykel51:
Hello Engr

I have a proposed building with a span of about 50m, a terrace building containing six units of flats. The proposed foundation system is raft beam with wide strip. What is the best way to introduce an expansion joint in the structure ?

Is simple and straight forward . the rule of thumb in structural engineering is to always introduce expansion joint at intervals of 30meter...
since your structure is spanning 50meters... you can safely introduce the expansion joint at the mid section of the building depending on it design...

feel free to drop the working drawings here so I can specify the best points to introduce the expansion joint...

Best Wishes..

Engr. A.L Onakomaya .. MNSE.. RCoren .

Is simple and straight forward . the rule of thumb in structural engineering is to always introduce expansion joint at intervals of 30meter...
since your structure is spanning 50meters... you can safely introduce the expansion joint at the mid section of the building depending on it design...

feel free to drop the working drawings here so I can specify the best points to introduce the expansion joint...

Best Wishes..

Engr. A.L Onakomaya .. MNSE.. RCoren .

n3xt:


You go pay for disclosing a proprietary information.

Well done chairman!

I go pay o Oga N3xt... we dey pray make we be like you... You know trust isn't easy to earn these days...sure kobocity is doing well..

I loyal Oga mi...

Help spread the news .. Tested and Trusted CAC agent...

FIGHT HERE AND THERE... IT IS WELL FOR THIS FORUM..

AKE YOU ALL SHA REMEMBER YOUR ENGINEER WHO IS ALSO AN ACCREDITED AGENT IN CAC..

WE DON HELP REGISTER MANY CAMPANIES FOR PEOPLE HERE INCLUDING KOBOCITY... WE EXPECTING MORE

WE ARE STILL DELIVERING TO OUR CUSTOMERS...

Dannyfan:
Okay, are you a graduate of civil engineering?
And please will you be willing to mentor me?

MENTORSHIP is not a problem... feel free to ask me any question... check out one of my topics about Engineering Design and Construction,,,

Dannyfan:
Don't let this thread die.
Which is best in Nigeria to study as Master degree after 1st degree in civil engineering, between Construction Engineering & Management and Structural Engineering?

I THINK Construction Engineering & Management WILL BE BETTER FOR MASTERS.. FROM EXPERENCE... IT IS EASIER AND YOU LEARN MORE BROADER PERSPECTIVE OF ENGINEEERING CONSTRUCTION

WE STILL GIVE THE BEST....

Sejeje:
Good day everyone.This fish farm is for sale
It is located behind BOVAS Fiing station Moniya Express Ibadan
0 eight 1 48133165

ASK WHY THE FARMER IS SELLING ... SURE IS BECAUSE FISH FARM BUSINESS NO LONGER VIABLE....

PLEASE, NEWBIES,,, STOP WASTING YOUR MONEY IN FISH FARMING.... EXCEPT YOU SELLING FINGERLINGS, FISH FEED OR EQUIPMENTS.....

Vodox:
Good morning senior colleagues,
Please can a Civil Engineer get his COREN certificate while doing his pupilage under an Architect?

IS POSSIBLE.. BUT YOU NEED TO DO MORE OF THE ENGINEERING ASPECT OF BUILDING CONSTRUCTION AS A WHOLE...

NO KNOWLEGDE IS LOSS IN THE BUILDING INDUSTRY.. TRY TO LEARN FROM ALL PROFFESSIONALS IN THE INDUSTRY ...

LASTLY... WHEN PRESENTING YOUR DOCUMENTS FOR COREN CERTIFICATE... GET ALREADY REGISTERED ENGINEERS TO SIGN FOR YOU..

MY TWO CENT...

ENGR. GBENGA

n3xt:


As a Chartered CAC Agent. Tested and confirmed.

THANKS OGA n3xt for the commendation....

Always ready for BUSINESS / COMPANY REGISTRATION WITH CAC

folmus:



As a tax lawyer too?

NO SIR.... I AM NOT A TAX LAWYER... BUT AN ENGINEER IN FIRST DEGREE, A CHARTERED SECRETARY IN SECOND DEGREE... ALSO AN ACCREDIDATED /CHARTTERED COPORATE AFFIRS COMMINSION AGENT.
LIKE I SAID... I MAY BE OF HELP OR GUILDANCE...

YOU CAN DO ALL YOURSELF ONLINE NOW....TAX HAVE BEEN MADE EASY... VISIT... https://taxpromax.firs.gov.ng/