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SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 1:03pm On Oct 13, 2016
Icon4s:
"Team Chemistry". Very very important in modern day football. wink

Except if Onazi is injured there is no way Esiti or Ndidi will start that game ahead of him in the DMF position. And I dare to tell u that Mikel will be part of that Algeria game irrespective of whether he plays till November or not. wink

How many games has Mikel played this season yet he was our engine room against Tanzania and Zambia.

And pls which option(s) did u say u have for Mikel?
are you trying to be sarcastic or you are really asking me if Nigeria has another CMF who is talented? So all the names we have been mentioning on this thread you no get any of them? Nosa Igiebor wasn't invited to warm the bench alone you know? If I mention Ogu now you will say 'team chemistry', so Igiebor is there. I also believe that Iwobi can play that position thus opening up space for Isaac Success to occupy the wing position, nothing difficult there
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 12:54pm On Oct 13, 2016
Icon4s:
Mikel and Onazi have been playing that midfield together for over 4 years not jst the last 2 matches. Take note of that. There collaboration all these years has mostly been solid. That is the stability i am talking about.

Coaches come and coaches go but the team remains. Onazi is a big game player. We cannot field an inexperienced Esiti in a game of this magnitude.

As for u saying Onazi allowed so many passes pass through him against Zambia. Him dey carry net dey play ball? U expect the Zambians not to have any through pass to their forwards at all? Did u also not see the number of interceptions he made in that game? Did u nt see how many times he initiated a build up play? Onazi had a good game against Zambia.

Well, Rohr is here to change many things about our national team. "The experienced players are needed for the big games".

You think this is like the era of our local coaches where after u build experience in a team, they distroy it by including players to suit there personal interest dropping the more experienced players. Just like Oliseh fielding Paul Onobi ahead of Mikel. And Silvester Igboun over Sonne Aluko.

Who be Esiti where Onazi dey?
yes, for the past 4 years and within that period we have failed to qualify for the previous 2 Afcons. That does not even add anything to their portfolio at all, they only time they succeeded was when they were paired with Sunday Mba at the Afcon and Babatunde at the World Cup. So don't sound as if they have been killing giants for the past 4 years.

Esiti came in and had almost thesame number of successful passes as Onazi. You think it's all about gaining possession? What do you do with the possession, that's important. Onazi hardly initiated any build up play that led to a good chance, all his long balls were unsuccessful but I can instantly remember 2 of Esiti's long range passes that were successful.

You seem not to get my point. I don't want Onazi to start for 2 reasons, one his passing abilities is far far inferior to our other DMFs. 2, that game is going to be a techinical game,do you know why Leichester lost to Arsenal twice last season? Because Kante, whose game is similar to Onazi's, couldn't cope with the passing game. The Algerians have technical players, they will come to pass the ball, not to dribble excessively and that requires sound positioning and discipline, Onazi lacks both or dont you agree?
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:40am On Oct 13, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
Guediora played there (in place of Brahimi).... And he's also a threat. But Brahimi is the better player.

They played 4-4-2 against Cameroun with Slimani pairing their top scorer, El hilal soudani.

They employed a combined attacking and cautious approach but Cameroun edged them in the midfield battle but Algeria created the most chances as most of their dangerous moves forward came through the flank/wing of one man.... "Mahrez" sad

Mahrez (as you already know) came from the right-- **somebody pls scream echiejile!!!!!!**

Guediora came from the left while Taider and boudebouz played as their central midfielders...

Feghouli came in later on from the bench.

But now the coach who executed that game and formation is gone and I see Brahimi returning to the first XI.

Also, Algeria just got Ounas of Bordeaux to change his allegiance and he's in line to feature against Nigeria. He's a midfielder doing well with bordeaux... He's 19 though but a special talent.

Truth is, we can edge the Algerians in midfield but the main problem is Mahrez down echiejile's wing. If Iwobi can show his improved defensive side at Arsenal for Nigeria, then mahrez will be limited down that flank.

Also, Victor moses executed the "wing-back" role in a 3-5-2 for Chelsea against hull on the right in their last EPL game. That role involves heavy defensive and offensive duties and Moses excelled. He was even MOTM.

If he can replicate that for Nigeria as on the right wing on his "expected" return, then Omeruo will also shine bright even though Omeruo can hold his own in that position because of his big-game experience and marking/tackling abilities.

So far, looking at our options, I agree with Sir Icon4s' call for Omeruo to fill in Right-back against Algeria. Nothing is guaranteed... He may flop there also... But I think he's a safer bet there especially as Balogun should return to partner Ekong....


And yessss... Sir Mickael2, I agree that playing an Ndidi instead of an Onazi won't be a bad move at all as He's younger, faster and can do a great DMF job in Onazi;s absence. But then I understand Icon4s' point.... "Big game Experience and cohesion with mikel".

Well, let's see how it goes shaa in that DMF role.


I honestly believe we can beat the Algerians and WE MUST.... A five-point lead over Algeria going into next year's four fixtures starting with the Cameroun double header will go a long way in keeping our qualification chances ever bright and maybe secured before going to algiers/blida on last match day.
exactly. You got my points totally. I will go with Omeruo as the RB and I won't be worried about Guediora at all. But Mahrez and Echejile, Lord Have Mercy! The simple truth is that Echejile has zero chance against an in-form Mahrez, even against a half-fit Mahrez so if Iwobi doesn't come back to defend then no matter our combination in midfield we will definetly have issues.

Ndidi or Esiti will start for me, because their passing abilities are better than Onazi and they can still cover a lot more ground than he does. In such a match, you don't need your DMF to be losing the ball every now and again or getting caught out of position, it will be dangerous hence the need for a more discplined DMF. If Mikel does not play any game till november, then he should not start at all for me. We have options.

I agree with SirIcon on other points though, except Onazi, he wants him to start just because of the team 'chemistry'
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 9:44am On Oct 13, 2016
Icon4s:
2-4 minutes youtube videos.
I know u didnt make that intial ascertion from those youtube videos but from the 10mins he played against Zambia.

Onazi is the man for the DMF job against Algeria abeg. We dnt want any1 that will play with a butter-fly stomach.
can you give me one good reason why you think that Onazi will do a better job? Please put that your stability theory aside
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 9:42am On Oct 13, 2016
Icon4s:
People have been making suggestions like: starting Onazi at LB or RB, starting V. Moses at the left wing so as to provide xover for Echiejile
Some1 has also said we should start Esiti ahead of Onazi.

All these are attempts to unsettle the balance and stability in that team.

We forget the first line of defense is the midfield. If u unsettle the midfield bc of LB u have destabilized the whole team. More like cutting off the head to deal with a running nose.

Let Echiejile remain at LB and Onazi partner with Mikel at the midfield. If the midfielders prevent the balls from getting to Mahrez and Slimani their threats would be minimized.

Moses needs to do more to support the RB also Iwobi needs to support the LB. Iwobi's defensive capabilities and physicality especially as seen at Arsenal has improved.

The strenght of this team lies in our midfield and attack. Let us not destabilize it bc we want to replace Echiejile.
Stability? What stability? They have only played 3 matches together and Onazi didn't start all those games neither did Mikel finish all of them, so we don't have a stable team yet.

Thank God you pointed it out, 'we need to prevent the balls from getting to Mahrez and Brahimi actually, Slimani is the top striker not a winger over there, you watched our last match, was Onazi able to do this? No. Then why shouldn't we be dynamic? Onazi can play games against Zambia and teams like that who depend on sheer strength to get through your midfield, he could also play that Algeria game if only we had great fullbacks, but the truth is that we don't, hence we can't afford to create one-on-one situations between our fullbacks and their wingers, if Omeruo plays as a RB, I will fancy him to hold his ground against Brahimi, but the problem is with Echejile and Mahrez.

So our team is still coming together, it isn't the finished article yet so we can change. Incase you don't remember, we could have lost that game against the Zambians if only they could finish better and all their chances were created from their wingers, none went through the middle so you see that we need to cover our flanks else the Algerians won't be too merciful
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 9:34am On Oct 13, 2016
Daninya11:
Brahimi will definitely play is he is injury free.

Manage - No. We can scout for a reliable left back before the game.

Pray - Yes. But we need to get our acts right. Lol
He didn't play their last game for reasons best known to the coach, that's why I am optimistic.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 9:29am On Oct 13, 2016
Icon4s:
How many of Esiti's games have u seen to conclude he has a better passing range than Onazi?
A lot actually. Thank God for youtube it isn't hard at all.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:34pm On Oct 12, 2016
Icon4s:
On what grounds are u picking Esiti ahead of Onazi? He has long legs which he can extend to intercept passes? grin

Bros abeg no let me grin
so that was the only thing you grabbed there? Maybe you need glasses
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:28pm On Oct 12, 2016
Daninya11:
If Rohr extends an invitation to Taiwo, it's a welcome development. But...... I don't see it coming.
For now, we can make shift with Omeruo as RB, Ekong and Balogun as CBD, where we have a problem is with the left back.

Since the exit of Chidi Odiah at RB, we seem not to get a Capable replacement. We miss Taiwo at left back. Echiejele of 2013 is a shadow of himself now but I think he is more reliable than Amuzie and Oshaniwa. Do we turn our attention to players in the diaspora? Will Rohr experience against the lethal attacking force of the Algerians? No.

This is what the defense will look like against the Algerians


Echiejele Ekong Balogun Omeruo
yes I can accept this backline, so long as Onazi isn't there. If Brahimi plays then we might have a problem, but if he doesn't we could have an advantage there, we could play a narrow left defence which means Onazi will be predominantly the LB while Echejile plays as a second LCB, it's complicated and since our players don't play in top teams it will be hard, so we just have to manage and pray
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 8:02pm On Oct 12, 2016
Daninya11:
Rohr should not gamble with his choice of players at RB and LB.

I strongly aver that he go with experienced and tested players against Algeria not green horn because this is not the right time to gamble or experiment.

For the right back position, he should choose between the Trio of Omeruo, Onazi or Balogun.
Onazi fared well in that position in Afcon 2013 under coach Keshi against the Zambian when Ambrose was suspended.
We all know the ability of Leon at Right back but his partnership with Ekong is just too perfect to be disrupted.
Omeruo can cope with his versatility, pace, tackle and strength.

So either Onazi or Omeruo should start at Right Back.

At the Left back, Echiejele can do the job. Which Amuziehuh , we all saw how he was exposed constantly in the just concluded Olympics. Why gamble with such a player with the fire power of the Algerians?? . Will the Algerians sit back and allow us play just because we are host?, hell no. They will hit us with all they have got. Does Taiwo Taiye play competitive football? Let's move ahead joor.
I would love to see more of Esiti in midfield.

Iwobi can wreck more havoc if he plays from the midfield so also Ahmed Musa if he plays as the arrow head.
Onazi last played as a RB 3 years ago, this is 2016 incase the date in your phone isn't correct. And with the kind of misplaced passes he recorded against Zambia, we are going to concede from his poor passes. A defensive midfielder only needs to be able to chase the ball, but a RB needs to be able to pass well and sadly Onazi isn't up for that.

Yes, Taye Taiwo plays competitive football and guess what? Echejile doesn't. He is a bench warmer for Standard Liege which is in which country anyways? Taiwo plays for Kemi Passa or so in the finnish league and is their top scorer, with Taiwo we get two things, a left back and a dead ball specialist. So yes Taiwo is still a better option than Echejile atleast and I have never mentioned Amuzie anyways.

Yes, we can both agree on your last point. For me, Esiti starts ahead of Onazi. The Algerians are going to approach the game technically unlike the Zambians that came with physical strength and that suited Onazi's game. The Algerians will work with passes, not direct runs and it requires a midfielder who can position himself well, Onazi can't do this, he relies more on his pace and ability to chase down opponents, Mikel can do it well but our coach won't want to play him there so for me, Esiti is okay. He has long legs which he can extend to intercept passes and his passing range is okay
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 2:46pm On Oct 12, 2016
tbaba1234:
Comparing Perreira who has achieved nothing in football to Mikel who has won everything is ridiculous..

Iheanacho is currently the second striker at Man city 3 years after under 17. Arsenal is a massive club and have consistently played CL football for more than a decade. Maura is 24.. Iheanacho, Yahaya and Iwobi are 20.... 2 years ago, they were 18... not a fair comparison.
what are you saying? He said he is a flash in the pan because he hasn't been getting game time, I am merely comparing their game times, please next time try to understand the argument before you join.

I used Iheanacho, Iwobi and Yahaya because they are the nigerians amongs the top clubs. Who else should I use? Even last season he played more than them, this season he has played more than them too
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 12:02pm On Oct 12, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
Where's Henrique (top scorer and golden ball winner at the Fifa u-20 world cup 2011)??

What has the overhyped Ganso achieved so far??

Where's Lucas Piazon now?? What are his stats??

Where's Mosquito?? Where's Nathan??

Where's Andrea perreira?? Still playing U-23/U-21 games when even Ndidi dey win 2nd best young player award in belgium last season losing to who sef? A belgian, Youri tielemans.


What's Lucas Moura's stats like right now compared to all the hype he received?? He was even termed a national treasure....

I could go on and on....

And oohhh... Our super sub's name at Nigeria 2009... He's Shehu Sani Emmnanuel. Sh*t happens... Like Chrisantus.

But I put it to you that from 2013, It's Nigerian football that has been bloomimg strong from the cadet and youth levels and they are among the world's finest youngsters today with the potential of being SUPER FULL-FLEDGED WORLD CLASS BIG GUNS.

And by 2013, I refer to both Nacho's class of 2013 and those who didn't even get to feature..... Nigeria witnessed a boom of quality and they are making waves and growing stronger than their peers from other countries today.
they are making waves where?! In the norwegian leagues? In the turkish leagues? In the segunda division? In the belgian leagues? Atleast perreira is at Manu, he plays a game every now and then, he isn't any different from Mikel who is also a bench warmer at Chelsea so what's your point? Lucas Moura is also at PSG, his game time isn't bad at all, he has played more games in the last 2 seasons than Iheanacho and Iwobi and Yahaya combined. Do you expect him to score so many goals? He is a winger incase you don't know and he played in thesame team with Ibrahimovic, and you know they have to feed him goals to keep his massive ego intact. His assist ratio is not bad at all.

Our best players in top teams are either bench warmers (Iheanacho and Mikel) or playing in an underachieving team(Iwobi, no disrespect to Arsenal though), so what point are you trying to make there?
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:54am On Oct 12, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
Stop trying to "spy" at who I will call... Looollll

Name your brazillian "potential world class fifteeen" and let's know who stands taller compared to the Nigerians.

@bolded... Nna eh!!!! Which kain lie be this bikonu?
do you even know which club he plays for and how many goals he has? I seriously doubt that
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:52am On Oct 12, 2016
Icon4s:
I dnt know o.

But from that crop a good number have also progressed fairly well. The following players were also from that crop of 2009 U17 to 2011 & 2013 U20: Ogenyi Onazi, Ahmed Musa, Kenneth Omeruo, Moses Simon, Wilfred Ndidi, Michael Olaitan, Abdul Ajagun, Kingsley Madu, Shehu Abdulahi, Aminu Umar, Emem Uduak,,Usman Mohammed, Uche Agbo, Olanrewaju Kayode. Remember also Ramon Azeez and Uche Nwofor. This crop so far has progressed better than most of their predecessors. They represent a good number in the Super Eagles. They are called "The Obu boys".

We are still observing closely the progression of the 2013 U17 to 2015 U20.
Don't see it as if I don't want Nigerians to progress. They are progressing for sure but we noticed their progress because we are Nigerians and we are following them closely, they play for low level teams mostly, so also brazilians can argue that their players are progressing too so just because a few who were hyped failed to deliver does not mean that others aren't delivering too.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:29am On Oct 12, 2016
Icon4s:
You mean Sani Emmanuel grin
thank you my brother. Where is he now?
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:28am On Oct 12, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
Good thing you showed up.... Looollllll grin

Oya answer naaa.... And funny thing is obinna Nwobodo WILL NOT MAKE THE LIST OF MY TOP 15 OF NIGERIAN POTENTIAL WORLD-CLASS STARLETS UNDER 21 YEARS based on those already in the eyes of the world media

And don't use that "I don't know brazillian players" line..... Loooolllll

Brother, I do.... And if you name one, I will know if he's regarded by the world media or not... So go ahead and name them. I'm waiting.... Top 15... grin
which players will you name? Nwakali, Yahaya and the likes? And you think the world media considers them? Go and search their names on skysports.com or bbcsports.com you won't even get a single article about them but just a single click on guys like Kennedy who you have all dubbed a flop will produce results. Even Mosquito from their U17 in 2013 is making waves too
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:25am On Oct 12, 2016
safarigirl:
More often than not, these Brazilians are flash in the pan footballers. They flatter to deceive, but hey, as long as you're from the land of samba, you must be some Pele-Messi-CR7 hybrid or something.

Okay, apart from Neymar, which Brazilian stars have lived up to hype of recent? How many South American stars have even lived up to hype in general? I'm talking since 2010.

They just keep flooding Europe with average at best plauers and move dow. The real footbsllers to sccomodate them.

See now, na Gabriel Jesus dem wan srll to us. Gabriel Jesus will push Kelechi down the pecking order. Why? Because Gabriel Jesus is Brazilian, not even because he has better stats than Kelechi

Look at Kennedy that Chelsea signed, how good is he really? What of Nathan? Are they as good as people think or do they just have it better because of their nationality?

The sad part is, the whole world has bought into this media propaganda and walk around thinking S/America have the best footballing talents in the world..
Douglas Costa is an absolute beast you know that right? Firminho, Coutinho and a host of others. And all of them are agemates, I think they came for the same U20 with Onazi, now compare them with the Nigerian players that we hyped then. What's the name of that our supersub? The one that scored goals as a sub but when he started the final he missed clear chances, can't remember his name, our little Messi, can't remember his name either. Kayode, Azeez even our defence stalwart, the old man Chukwudi something, where are they now? Which Nigerian lived up to the hype at all?
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:18am On Oct 12, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
Remember when I asked someone on one of the sports threads from many months ago to name at least 10 top Brazillian starlets under the age of 21 and see if they can rival the Nigerian 10 I will list... Did he succeed in doing so?

He even brought in England and we floored him.


So I dare someone to name 15 Quality Brazillian starlets under age 21 who are potential world beaters and under the radar as some of the world's finest youngsters today.

I have my Fifteen from Nigeria ready.
I was actually the one and I can name about 9 or 10 right now again. See the thing there is that we are Nigerians, we will know our players better. Go to Brazil and tell them that Nwobodo is a special talent and they will dub you a fool because they haven't seen him play football for a top club, also there are top players who play in their local league that I can name right now but you won't agree because you haven't watched their games, it's just relative bro, but the simple truth is that they have better players, better coaches, better exposure, infact better everything than we do
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 6:47am On Oct 11, 2016
Jefersoun:
It was when babatunde michael got injured by matuidi our midfield collapsed, and not onazi. Ok with that?
Hey!! That is incorrect. It was Onazi that was injured by Matuidi, Babatunde was injured by Onazi and even after he left we didn't notice, I disagree with this one. Onazi was the reason we lost, simple
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 7:32pm On Oct 10, 2016
joseph1013:
Carl Ikeme coordinates the defence well. He might not be a fire-brand shouter like Buffon, but he is effective at what he does. In defence he has the demeanor of Hugo Lloris, Bravo and Ter Stegen. These ones don't shout ferociously like Enyeama but still organize their defenses well.

Sometimes, shouting at defenders needlessly is counterproductive. For young defenders, you create panic in them and thus make them lose concentration. Who else noticed how that used to make Yobo, a veteran, jittery?

Also, Enyeama has conceded worse goals than what Ikeme conceded yesterday. May be you should watch the three goals Enyeama conceded before the International break against Saint-Étienne. Even as a great goal-keeper, he is not perfect.

Ikeme is a very capable goalkeeper. I have no complaints.
I am not saying he isnt okay o, but Enyeama is better and if he comes back,he starts but Ikeme isnt bad at all
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 5:29pm On Oct 10, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


As long as Mikel trains everyday with his club, he is good to go. What we are talking about is relying more on moving the ball with passes. Onazi and Mikel can play comfortably in the middle. Iwobi, Iheanacho and Nwobodo can form a deadly forward passing trident behind who ever strikes.

It is a good option. It would have worked in the game yesterday where we needed to pass more that run with the ball. If we are playing a possession style, Nwobodo is more suited. If we want to run at the full backs, V. Moses, S. Moses and Musa suits more.
I don't know why you are saying this thing since morning. Even Barca that plays such a formation plays also with a true winger. Victor Moses plays in an identical fashion with Neymar and you have to agree that Barca won't be that great without a Neymar-style player. There was Pedro before him and Sanchez before that, so we need Victor Moses there. You don't need your 5 forward players to be possession oriented, you need a direct route and only a direct player can create that
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 5:19pm On Oct 10, 2016
princesuko:
That still doesn't mean we shoe-horn him into the wings when we have Better Options.

1. If Ighalo is Available he Starts though his Link-up play is Top Notch.
2. Any of The Moses Will do.
3. I dont see Mikel getting benched but he isnt getting required minutes to stay match fit for Club.
4. Onazi has Merrited a starting Place.
5. Ndidi haven't seen much of him apart from that Game yesterday so can't say much.
6. Wouldn't bench Ikeme even if Enyeama was available on Current Form.
i disagree with your last sentence. I will start Enyeama any day any time, why? It's not just about the shot-stopping abilities, rather the way he coordniates the defence. Ikeme was not instructing anybody at all, that was why most times our full backs were unaware, as a GK you shout at your defenders, make them aware of the opposing players presence and I would fancy Enyeama to even keep out that goal they scored sef, so Enyeama anyday of the week abeg. Not to mention that he is our captain afterall.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:47am On Oct 10, 2016
forgiveness:
Although, I didn't have the opportunity to see the first half but I was able to see 40 minutes before the end of the second half.

I think we have dwelt much on the first eleven without considering their replacement in case of any eventuality.

First of all, I noticed the defence could not withstand countless waves of attacks. Especially from the wing backs.

It seems we depend too much on Mikel Obi and Onazi in the midfield.

I don't understand why our coaches don't like doing the right thing.

Why use a defender/defensive midfield as a wing back when we have Brain Idowu and Tyrone Ebuechi who plays regularly for their teams?

Moses Odubanjo and Ola Aina dey dere too but dem go wan squeeze dem players into the team.

I think it is high time we look for credible left back too. Elderson Echiejile seems to be another weak link at the back.

Taye Taiwo still plays better than all the players tested so far and he is the only left back playing regularly. But he must be tried in a friendly before the qualifiers.


Kenneth Otigba must be called.

Who can replace/substitute Iheanacho and Iwobi should be the next thing a reasonable coach should think of.
My brother, take a bottle of beer.

Taiwo and Oshaniwa should be ahead of Echejile, Taiwo is playing in the finnish league I know, but he has been consistent atleast, their top scorer for that matter, I don't know why he is benched for Echejile a bench warmer.

We don't really depend on Mikel on Onazi, Mikel maybe but we have credible replacements for Onazi. Ndidi, Azubuike, Ogu and Esiti can all play there, Iwobi can easily replace Mikel and make way for a true winger. We only have a shortage of supply when it comes to defenders. You are saying that Otigba should be invited but to replace who? You can only invite 23-26 players and you can only have room for 4 CBs, we have Leon, Omeruo, Ekong and Awaziem then two RBs and LBs, that makes it a total of 8 already so we can't invite everybody. We have quality backup for our midfielders and strikers
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:26am On Oct 10, 2016
TheGoodJoe:

V. Moses can play as an AMF, but his style is different from the possessive play. When Spain plays the likes of Isco, Silva, Iniesta or Sarabia on the wings, they do not play like Overmars or Tijani.

The play a coordinated passing style of play. That is what he is pointing out with a player like Nwobodo combining with Mikel, Iheanacho, and Iwobi in midfield.
Yes, he is not tasked with possessive play hence he doesn't use it. I thought we were talking about a player that can play one touch football with Iheanacho and the likes? Not a possessive style so to sau, so when you talk about one two touches, Moses can do it while also driving straight at defenders hence I'd pick him over another true midfielder, don't forget that this is Africa anyways, European football is different
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:16am On Oct 10, 2016
TheGoodJoe:

Sometimes, a team of creative players on the wings are more dangerous than outright wingers. Last season, in some games with Nasri and Silva on the wings. With their positional expansive play, they can stretch the opposition but still keep possession.

Iwobi does not play as an outright winger, running down the flanks. He is part of the passing build-up plays.

Although sometimes, you need a pacy winger when you have gaps created by bombarding full backs.
you do remember that Silva plays as a wide man for Spain and he provides width there, the guy can play as a true winger so he keeps the width, I am glad you noticed that Iwobi wasn't providing width as much as we needed. Now we are not just talking about a headless winger, we are talking about a winger that is not just dangerous but can keep possession too, Victor Moses plays as an AMF for chelsea these days and his slick combination play with Costa was beautiful, I think he can do thesame cutting in from the wing
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:06am On Oct 10, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


Depends on the coach and style of play. Yesterday, wing play let us down. We were dangerous keeping possession and passing the ball. With Nwobodo, we can stay organised in the middle and break the opposition with quick passing combinations.
Even when we were keeping possession, Moses Simon's wing position was immensely beneficial, as a true winger he kept the width of the team intact thereby: 1) Reducing the attacking impetus of their LB if not Ndidi would have died in a shorter time
2) He also totally removed their LB from combined defensive duty thereby providing space for the sleek 1-2 touches that we witnessed, without a true winger that formation would not work at all and I am not excited about Nwobodo AT ALL, can someone please show me a youtube link atleast?
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 9:53am On Oct 10, 2016
zuchyblink:
Rohr should Unleash these XI against Algeria
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...................----------IKEME-------------------------
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BALOGUN---OMERUO----EKONG------ONAZI
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----------------------ESITI--------------------------
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-------------MIKEL----------------------------------
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NWOBODO-------IHEANACHO----------IWOBI
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--------------------ETEBOR------------------------
/
I go for Etebor(the beast) over Ighalo and Ideye
I started disliking your formation when I saw Onazi, who is a right footed player anyways, at LB and I'd also fancy Leon at RB instead of Omeruo but okay.

Nwobodo ahead of Victor Moses, Isaac Success, Simon Moses, Ahmed Musa, Imoh Ezekiel even Umar Aminu?! Brother, we have a truckload of quality wingers and Nwobodo is not even close to their quality AT ALL. And Esiti is more like our Chelsea Mikel, we sub him in to balance out the play. Then Etebo as a striker? A lone striker in fact, when has he ever played that formation?
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 9:48am On Oct 10, 2016
terzurum5:
Sure I used to think about Adi too but, from all indications, it seems the League he plays in is not that competitive hence his easy scoring performance.

Don't forget, Coach Samson Siasia after monitoring him in training, said he is slow.

I don't know if Fred Sunday can up his game to fill the Shoes. Let's just hope any of the homebased Strikers take us by storm.

For me I can't wait for Osimhen to mature in his game.

It seems hard to spot a striker between ages 20-23 at the moment doing us proud.

Ideye is not different from or better than Ighalo. In the event of Injury to one or both of them, who do we call on as a capable replacement. (don't pray for it though)
I don't know if Siasia really said that because I do watch the MLS on fox sports and he isn't slower than Ideye atleast and he is a pure fox, an aerial ball specialist
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 4:00am On Oct 10, 2016
terzurum5:
I agree with you on this one Sir. Now aside Brown Ideye and Ighalo, which other Nigerian Internationals should be considered for the Striking roles.

Note. Wobi and Nacho are out of this.
shouldn't be difficult at all, Fanendo Adi, He does exactly what Ideye does on the MLS but he can score too unlike Ideye
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 3:30am On Oct 10, 2016
KevinDein:
lemme just take this opportunity to apologize for what I said to you a few days ago (you might have forgotten, but I haven't, and I've really been feeling bad about it). I handled it really poorly and I was a genuine assshole. Accept my apologies.
You fine fine man, nice attitude. come accept the apology na
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 12:56am On Oct 10, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
For the 4-1-4-1, He said against teams like Cameroun NOT Algeria. smiley
sorry my bad. yes it makes sense now, their wingers are not so good so it won't be a problem at all. I now concur
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 12:49am On Oct 10, 2016
princesuko:
Something Like This
hmmm, lateral wingers? wouldn't it be better to play inverted wingers that cut in to shoot? I mean Iwobi can shoot so playing him that side would limit his shooting abilities since it will be his weaker foot, and playing with full backs that concentrate on moving the ball to their wingers won't work against the Algerians because any misplaced pass would result in a one on one duel between their wingers and our defenders, they have Brahimi and Mahrez, that would be dangerous, we should work with conservative defenders in my point if view

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