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safarigirl:
I was 9-years old in JSS1 as at 2003. I was 10 in JSS2 as at 2004. I had a classmate a year younger than me then, so, she was 8 in JSS1 as at 2003....she graduated secondary school in 2009 at 14...

You need to revisit these your beliefs. I still graduated secondary school in 2010 at 16, even as I had to repeat JSS2 because we moved.

Bear in mind, some people wrote WAEC in SS2 even back then, so they didn't spend six years in school.

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Your friend's case was probably rare which was why you all knew about it, it happens. I am assuimg you grew up in the East, 15 or 16 I can and work with anyday but 14? Anyways

Joebie:
I didn't. But even in the south some finished school at 17 or even 18. Either way, we cannot generalize.

no need hitting it further.

Confirm Onyekuru's position today, seems like he is wingback

Joebie:
Not true. You also want to consider the mindset in that area.Where I grew up starting your kids early was like competition. And some of these kids will skip primary 6. In my sec school we had a special class who were ahead of their peers by one year. Considering these 3 ppportunies, quite a number graduated at 14.

did you grow up in the East? I mean guys from the East on this thread should come and say if I am saying the truth or not

tbaba1234:
Awoniyi was 16 in 2013. Most of the others were 17.

I thought you would understand what I meant by that. His extended family didn't like the idea of football and even when I saw his WAEC results I too told his cousin to go against it, coupled with the fact that he was sitting on the bench. God works in many ways I guess

tbaba1234:
My younger sister graduated secondary school in 2001, she was 14 and half. That is 10 years before 2011.

It was certainly more common in 2011 compared to 2001.

from this I can factually conclude that you are from the Southern part of the country? I wouldn't doubt that one bit. But things are different over here

jihday:
lol continue poldoski was just 25 then and klose 32, he was not 35 playing in China or Indonesia he was playing with Bayern then

Klose was 36 and was playing for Lazio not Bayern

tbaba1234:
Not true.. My younger ones all finished secondary school at 14-15-16. One of them finished at 17 and she was one of the oldest in her class.

if they graduated post 2015 then I agree but 2011? In the East too? No

tbaba1234:
Under 17 was in 2013 not 2011... No way, he is 25. His declared age is most likely correct.

Most kids finish secondary school at 14-15-16 these days as long as they start early. 17 na old papa.

2011 was six years ago, these 14year olds are probably recent guys. Even Awoniyi who was very brilliant(yes I knew his cousin) graduated when he was 17, 14 was impossible back then

tbaba1234:
Under 17 was in 2013 not 2011... No way, he is 25. His declared age is most likely correct.

Most kids finish secondary school at 14-15-16 these days as long as they start early

Sorry my bad about the mixup.


Still, someone who left secondary school in 2011 entered secondary school in 2005, back then school kids weren't as young as they are now, in fact it was impossible to say a 15year old graduate, 16 was rare. I mean I met that 2005 set before I left secondary school and I know some of them till now. Maybe there was a mixup somewhere

tbaba1234:
The Taye Taiwo story was a false rumor.

As regards Kelechi, He passed an MRI test which places his age at +/- 2 years with a 99% probability. Meaning he can't be more than 23. This is based on scientific evaluation.

Besides, Kelechi played for Nigeria under 13 and 15. This is Kelechi's picture in 2010.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/3798809_fbimg1464800873731_jpeg7dd0d95308e031f721938446e90e1e82

Besides, I have it on fairly reliable authority that Kelechi finished secondary school 2 years before under 17. Average age of finishing secondary school is 15-18 which puts him in the age -grade.

I am sure the actual school leaving age is 17/18 which means he was 19/20 in 2011 and I disagree since that would mean that he is 25 now, I disagree. At 25 he should be in his peak years, this Kelechi is not yet in his peak, maximum the guy is 23 or less.

ANTONINEUTRON:
Hmm

Na U Cme Measure Player Height Pass Wikipedia And Whoscored.com??

Fifa Index has his height as 185cm, transfermarket has his height as 184cm, remember that these are what we may call 'shoe height', like when you see players undergoing their medicals you will see that they will be wearing boots when they are measured, so these heights are at a difference of 1 or 2 from their actual height. I will take FIFA's height anyday, check Neymar's height on wikipedia and tell me it isn't absurd

elyte89:
Its a lie o,baba,his twin brother is hale and hearty google d story,its d pure truth,it almost bursted taiye taiwo den in france

I knw him very well(taiye taiwo),we lived in d same area when he use to hawk pepper in d neighborhood
My elder brother who is 35years old now,was abt starting his secondary skool when taiye taiwo was in ss2,Taiye taiwo attended imetropolitan skool(mentro high,okota Lagos state),for those who live in okota will knw dis skool very well,so popular.u can confirm

Same Ramon azeez dt capped his set during d u-17 lived in ikotun b4,he has 2kids b4 d u-17 tournament, those who knw him very well can testify to dis also
Now back to iheanacho,anybody dt knows him very well,or grew up tgeda with him,can only convince me dt hes real age is not 27,but if u re following d FIFA WEBSITE, to debunk my claims,den u re on your own,dts ur opinion,my verdict still stands,if u like kill ursef but I will say d obvious act


IHEANACHO is not below 27years(real age)

this guy is honestly very funny.

So Ramon Azeez's pikin go dey watch papa for tv as him dey play U17? Him wife do carry pikin dey cheer am?

FAMILY247:
Nigerians and bring him down attitude, though I was only able to watch the U17 final game against Mexico but that under 17 is most likely the youngest U17 team we have ever paraded, even my elder sister that also saw that game told me those boys are young.

That aside, I think Nigerians always believe any negative news about Nigeria and shout it to the high heaven and won't say much if it is a positive news

Maybe she didn't see Iheanacho sha and that papa dash me shirt wey them wear fit conceal their faces

safarigirl:
and how do you know a 21-year old when you see one?

We have dealt with these ridiculous claims by your ilk numerous times that is why most people chose to ignore, but it's about time your nonsense claims got shot down.


If Kelechi is 27, that would be really sad because I have never seen a 27-year old man who acts so much like a kid as he does. This is someone that can comfortably play around with the likes of Iwobi and Awaziem, a truly 27-year old guy would not be so playful.


Kelechi was 5ft.11' as at 2013, but is currently 6ft.2", now if we are to believe this idiocy that he was 23 as at 2013, then explain the increase in height.

Even if Kelechi is not 21, I still maintain that he is no older than 23.

That is how people told us Mikel was 30 in 2005, somehow, he is still playing football 12 years later at the grand old age of 42.

Some weeks ago, someone said Ajiboye was married with kids as at 2007, thankfully, I have a roommate who knows his wife and they got married two years ago and have just one baby.

I have said times without number that you people who come online to defame these famous people deserve jail time if you cannot prove your claims

Kindly keep shut if you are just blabbing because you think you know what you obviously don't

not to dispute your claim about his age but Iheanacho is still 5'11, 184cm actually. I mean you know wetin be 6'2?! Ronaldo is 6 and half, goalkeepers are 6'2, Iheanacho is 5'11 at best. How tall is Iwobi?


Now before the babylonians come for my head.... I hereby declare that I believe totally that Iheanacho is not more than 23, I have never believed such rumours so please disregard anybody that thinks otherwise

Humility017:
do you know that keshi played 3 DM against Iran....
prior the introduction of osaze in that match...the SE lack creativeness and mikel was a shadow of his former self...
you're lamenting we're hyping foreigners...
tell me which foreign coach will take the likes of Gabriel Reuben who could only manage 270 minutes for his club in full season to the world cup....likewise ameobi, uchebo etc....

keshi gulfed big time.... Bosnia team were not exceptional I understand they were the first European team to qualify that year..

thank God you said...you will take osaze ahead of Alex and Moses Simon....I doubt if anyone that have been watching football....will do that...

even in england osaze prior his departure to far away south Asia could not secure a move in lower division and here you downplaying a lad who could break into arsenal first team easily....

I cherish osaze when he was still playing for now...I agree his time is over...
likewise Martins and co....

young players deserve to be given a chance...
I remember last world cup...England benched the likes of lampard for sterling....
I remember...one of their legends...saying the goal should just be to develop and build themselves up for the next world cup and European nations cup...though necessarily they not gonna qualify out of the group stage...

that's partly the reason why their manager who was Liverpool manager was not sacked after their failure in last world cup...

and back to osaze and co issue...so you think could have been able to play the iwobi play presently when he was 20 years old

First of all Osaze played for Rotheram before he went to Indonesia, he scored there too and left because he wanted to leave, don't argue what you do not know.

Maybe you still do not understand. I said I will take Osaze as a RWF ahead of Iwobi and Moses Simon, if we talk about the AMF position I will not bring in Osaze. When Osaze was 20 he was a regular for Lokomotiv Moscow, a champions league regular then, despite starting from one club like that in Nigeria, Iwobi started from the academy. No need going further, this is not an Osaze vs Iwobi debate and shouldn't be, Osaze scored a minimum of 10goals in the Epl for like 4 seasons or 5, Iwobi's career total isn't even close.


Honestly, have you watched any of Osaze's games? I will pardon you because you do not bother to watch even highlights.


The same Iranian team held Argentina for 90minutes and I remember Enyeama making some saves in that game. I agree totally that Keshi's team selection generally was poor but his first eleven was spot on and his tactics for that Bosnia match was accurate, no need making a mockery of it just to praise Rohr

elyte89:
Nobody can debunk dt,I knw dt u-17 set he graduated frm was one of d youngest d country ever paraded but

We knw a 21year old boy when we c 1,baba forget kelechi no b 21 he's claiming,

Say we no add at all,d guy na 27-29years of age

that means he may even be theGoodJoe's classmate back then no wonder he is always defending him

Icon4s:
Yes Klose did. And I was even expecting you to mention Rodger Miller.

But mention one of such players that performed at ages close to or above 40 and I will mention 100 players that could no longer perform as from age 30.

maybe you are getting my entire point wrong.


Now let me ask you some questions- how many strikers should a team normally take to the world cup? To answer this question you will need to specify Iheanacho's position, if you believe he should be played as the SS/AMF(which he is currently playing for his club and most likely will be playing for us soon) then that means you will have to remove him from the 'strikers' position.

Then next question, how many good strikers do we have on ground right now

forgiveness:
Association of obscure clubs and League Plc.

No 3. Aaron Samuel

He made is debut on the 11th of October 2014.

Abeg, make una help check where this 20 or 21 years player was playing at that time because I am not seeing very well.

They also wanted to use Super Eagles as a stepping stone for Aaron Samuel hence it backfired and we missed out of the Nation's cup.

Na wa ooooooo.

you will not kill me

elyte89:
because it worked for Italy doesn't mean it would work for us,baba we no need dis ppu again,forget dem,martins,yakubu and osaze,let's give oda chance to play,wetin sef


and mind u,we re not italy, we re nija,dis guys u mentioned above,dier average FOOTBALL AGE IS 35 OR SO,meaning deir real age is close to 43-45,in dt region

Even d so called young strikers we re claiming to parade are not so young in d real sense, d world cup next year is d time to enjoy what exactly dey can give in relation to dier real age. Most esp kelechi iheanacho and simon moses,those guys real age are within d range of 27-28 respectively.

if this is true then I hereby rest my case . My entire campaign has been because I assumed they still have 3 world cups left but if they are 27 now, 4years from now na 31, and I been don hear that Iheanacho rumour but I no wan talk

Humility017:
don't mind him....
let it be our oldest striker come next year's world cup be ighalo....
I once told a friend....Thomas mullers and Fabian swastiger's( sorry not able to spell his name correctly ) age....he was so surprised...to him...how come they've participated in so many world cups despite their young age....

the truth is the Germans prepared them to be champions...they started going to the world cup at a very young age...and we're able to amount years of experience that became useful last world cup....
so we can do same...towards the aina,Dennis, iwobi etc

and you think they just said 'Hey Muller, Bastian, Gomez come let's go this world cup and you are in the first eleven'.


You forget that even in the German team Bastian would have warmed the bench at the 2010 world cup if not for Ballack's injury, how old was Balack? Their strikers had to sit on the bench for Podolski and Klose, how old were they? Your first world cup iusually a learning process, even Messi was a bench warmer in his first world cup. This is how developed nations function and they have been ever so successful

Humility017:
definitely ike uche gonna make your world cup lists and not rohr's...list.

and for your analogy of the Chinese league wit pauliho...
we're talking of players potentials prior his departure to the Asian league....he was a beauty to behold in the epl wit spurs...he played so well in the world cup too

so please don't use his ball playing qualities canvass for some average Nigeria players in the Chinese league....

and for...Tammy Abraham...if we can't get him we have other options in dessers, kayode and even nacho though you don't want him there....but the truth be told...he is the most clinical SE striker presently...

don't be ridiculous, didn't you read the part where I said Iheanacho would be a good fit but he is currently out of form? So who says I don't want him at the world cup?

Contrary to your assertions, taking three or four older players to the world cup won't kill our rebuilding process. I mean Lahm went to the last world cup, it hasn't stopped Rudy from becoming one of the best fullbacks in the game. I can give other examples but obviously you won't understand.


So Paulinho was a hit at Tottenham? Wow, please tell me more

Icon4s:
Even Osaze is 36 for Christ's sakes. How many strikers in the world can still compete favorably at that age?

Well Klose did, at the last world cup infact

Humility017:
you never stop to amaze me....
when last did you hear of osaze score in that backwater Indonesia league....?
how about China...last made the 2002 world cup..where beaten by teams of Portugal,Brazil and Belgium mercilessly...that's Japan /Korea 2002...

and you are now convassing for old legs plying their trade in leagues unknow..

please....just in case you don't understand our target is not just Russia 2018 but also Qatar 2022...
moreover....we now have pacy and skillful wingers who can do better damages...
rohr's team I believe will beat that Bosnia team silly

thank God you said you believe, since we do not have a parameter now let me not argue it. But here you are, running down Keshi's achievements with that team just because of some tacticaly-average foreigner, I mean this is the problem with our country as a whole. You think that Bosnian team came there to joke? Argentina(the eventual finalists) only beat them by a single goal margin, an own goal too, they scored a perfectly legal goal against us which was disallowed and if not for some insane goalkeeping for Enyeama would have still equalised, they white-washed Iran..... I mean do you even think before you make these insane assumptions?!


I do not know if I have to say it 20times over. It is not about their goals but what they offer, to be honest with you till this very day I will take Osaze ahead of Moses Simon and even Iwobi in that RWF position, atleast we cannot dispute Osaze's age he wasn't born in Nigeria

safarigirl:
at least you are sure of their ages, can you honestly vouch for the average African player that he is telling his true age?

is Ike Uche still playing? Week in week out YES

is Martins still playing? Week in week out, YES.


Is Osaze still playing? Week in week out YES.

I concern myself with their output not their age, they cane be 50 and come to the world cup and score like Roger Milla will you remember their age afterwards?

safarigirl:
Martins, Uche and Osaze? Is it a Veterans World Cup?

do you need me to tell you the average age of the Italians when they won the 2006 world cup? Or that of Spain when they won the 2010 World cup? I mean even CapdeVilla played that tournament! So much for the Veterans I guess

Humility017:
then replace him wit dessers....
I think we don't want a striker like cavanni as Our main point man...

everyday I see reason why we should do all we can to get Tammy....because besides our defense....our CF role need urgent attention....
ighalo is not a dependable striker....we need strikers in the calibre of our wingers....
take a a cursory look at the our wingers...
etebo,Dennis,Moses, S Moses, iwobi though can still the Am role, onyekuru,olayinka,serenren bazee, kalu, musa etc

you know the truth but you don't want to accept it.


Ok like you pointed out, the sorry lot we have now cannot lead our attack in Russia, look left right and center we don't have anyother option. Tammy isn't coming, it is not written in any prophetic hall that Dessers will be a hit, even if he is a hit we still need to come to the world cup with 3-4 out and out strikers, so why not accept the tested and trusted guys? I will take the Liga2 ahead of the bottom half of the Belgian League, infact I can argue, after watching most of their games, tha Lugo will hold their own against Gent, so Ike Uche is not in a backwater league. Paulinho is still the corner stone of Brazil's brilliant world cup qualifying campaign...from the Chinese League!!! So much for the Chinese league being on par with the Championship

blueto:
If we don't have that “very clinical striker” now, then I suggest Ighalo should retain the spot because of his ability to create chances for others and trouble defenses unlike Nacho that mainly waits for “clear-cut” chances to pounce on which may not be very feasible against sturdy defenses in the world cup and becomes almost unseen when you have good defenders around him.

In the last world cup edition, how many goals did Emenike score? but when it came to putting defenses under pressure and creating chances, he was good. With Ighalo's recent performances, he as done better than Emenike in that aspect and also adding goals to his game. Yes, I will like the coach to make the role more competitive by bringing Dessers and others. But my point is, if the team is to play an important match now, with Ighalo and Iheanacho as the main options, it will be apt to start Ighalo ahead of Iheanacho and bring in Iheanacho later in the second half probably when Nigeria is leading. Then he can do his damages like he did against Cameroon because the Cameroonians were more offensive minded at that time he was on the pitch, thereby leaving their defenses more open for Iheanacho to score unlike it was in the first half were Ighalo had to put in much effort to get the first goal. Iheanacho has not been very good at getting goals when defensing is the top priority of the opponents, even when he was at man city, his goals mostly came when the opponent is already losing, thereby making their defenses more vulnerable as they are more concerned with attacking and equalizing.

No No No, Ighalo cannot do what Emenike was doing then. Do you think Ighalo could have created that Bosnia goal? For one he doesn't have the pace to even do something like that, he is not the type of striker that can go out in the wing thus allowing another unsighted player free reign in the 18yard box which was what Emenike brought to the party then.


Then let's take a cursory look at all the to strikers in the world right now-Suarez, Benzema, Lewandowski, Kane etc etc. All these guys have one thing in common, their ability to also drift away from the box and giving the two CBs a false sense of security allowing their other attacking teammates to score. If Kane does not drift from the middle Alli won't score two goals in a season, same for Suarez and Messi, Benzema/Ronaldo, Lewandowski/Muller(you can see here that Ancellotti disrupted that Lewandowski/Muller, sack letter). This is what worked for us at the last world cup, Emenike drifted away from the box and created a goal for Osaze, he drifted into the middle and created a goal for Musa, this is the type of striker we need as out starter not some kwatankwa striker like Ighalo, which is why I really hope and pray and wish that Iheanacho will check his development because in the present crop of guys he is the only one that can remotely do that. Tammy Abraham cannot do it and so I do not expect him to be a hit for any National Team he plays for.


Now that brings me to the two/three guys I have always been clamouring for. Martins, Ike Uche and Osaze. Now Martins and Uche are two strikers who can drift well, infact sometimes you would be left wondering if they are playing as the winger just like what David Villa used to do, no need telling you his achievements from such play and/or Suarez's achievements too. So me clamouring for Ike Uche or Martins isn't because they bagged some goals recently, I am looking at their style of play, Ighalo is the type of forward we should look for when we are chasing a game, never a starter. There is a reason why the Three Lions will still invite Defoe ahead of Tammy despite our show of interest, they are not stupid, they know Defoe drifts more than Tammy thus providing a whole lot more attacking dimension.


So please, next time I mention Uche or Martins, it is not because they bagged a couple of goals, it is because their style of play will provide a lot more than what we have now.

Cc Joebie, Humility, Icon4s, Kog45 these guys that always attack when they see these names take note

safarigirl:
be there asking people JAMB question....tomorrow when they call you hater you will say someone is childish

I didn't know that correcting someone makes me a hater

When exactly is our match against Algeria and when are we expecting the list
cc Joebie

DrKlever:
Nacho is still a valuable player, forget what's going on presently. how can you get rid of your highest goal scorer?

I thought VicMo is our highest goalscorer in the World Cup qualifiers? I know we haven't scored a goal in the AFCON qualifiers and I know Iheanacho is not our record goalscorer so where exactly is he the highest goalscorer?

Joebie:
KC will do well this season. First sign, Shakespeare OUT

Assuming the coach likes him that is.

Let me ask you, without sentiments that is, if the coach starts playing a 4-3-3 do you see Iheanacho starting? Gray has been wonderful, he will take the right side, Mahrez on the left and Nacho and Vardy and Okazaki and Slimani vying for the single slot up top

Joebie:
You should also consider that the opponents can influence ratings. The difference in their rating wasn't significant anyway. We want to look at their average rating after some number of games to really make a fare comparison.

I don't think the 5-3-2 is similar to the 3-4-3. Agu was at the center of a 3-man midfield. I'd like to think that he had more of an AM role, when the team was attacking. But well that's just my thinking. We can't exactly say unless we watched the actual match.

Modified
The formation is read from defense to attack. 5-3-2 means 5-man defense.

I actually watched the game. The wingbacks were more midfield-inclined which is why I called it a 3-4-3 and the opponents were second from the bottom(?) when the game started.


On the other hand people run down Omeruo a lot, for a defender in a losing team to chalk up 6.81 is no mean feat