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SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 8:01pm On Oct 05, 2017
soetanoreoluwa:
When was the Last time Cameroon collect 4 whatout reply?
we gave them 3 without reply not long ago. They also collected 4 in one of their friendly games either last year or so
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 7:59pm On Oct 05, 2017
EEGA:
SA did that and it worked for them because we had Awaziem and Ekoong,no Balogun,Etebo as AM ,no Mikel, Iwobi as Lwf,no victor Moses and Iheanacho as CF, no Ighalo.

No team in Africa can beat us with our stars present.U can't frustrate a team with Mikel,Balogun,Vic. Moses and Ighalo.These players are experienced and know how to approach such team tactically.
people frustrate teams with Messi, Higuain, Aguero, Dybala, Icardi and a host of others, nothing is impossible provided the right idea is employed
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 7:55pm On Oct 05, 2017
Mujtahida:
Of course you surely must have read Rohr repeatedly saying this is a different Zambian team than the one we beat last year. Mikel said we respect Zambia but it's time we wrap this up and the team as a whole has refused to be drawn into low mind games with Zambia with several players including Mikel saying they will do their talking on the pitch. So you see they know how to gauge things.

It's different from fans who from the get go in the name of reality show so much fear so that when we win they'd be happy, if we are defeated they'd have the morbid pleasure of saying 'shebi I tell una' . That's the perspective I find difficult to swallow. Believe in your team to the hilt!! That's what the Zambians are doing. Go to their page and sample comments.
but the scoreline some are seeing in their dreams certainly means they are underestimating the Zambians(the dream,scientifically, is a mere extension of the subconscious mind). I mean when was the last time Zambia collected 3 goals without reply?
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 7:51pm On Oct 05, 2017
Mujtahida:
Mickael2 light or darkness? What are you seeing? At least yours comes with analysis not just fear mongering. So what do you see?
I see light, well MAINLY light but some darkness still and I will explain why.

I have seen some people saying we can sit back if the Zambians sit back forcing them to come out and play, home ground does not support that. If I pay 5k to sit in the VIP corner and you are playing 0-0(plus a boring game) after 60mins, I will join and start chanting 'all we are saying...' and if you have been in that situation before you will run mad, and go all out attack forgetting what the coach said, this is what happens to Madrid, once it's 60mins and they are yet to score, the boos start ringing and the players get disorganised and become easy picking. If Zambia can withstand our attack till the 60th minute mark we are in trouble.


Another point, the coach is going to show them some clips of that first leg. Trust me the Zambians had 3-4 very good chances that should be put away, if they have a proper team psychologist he will point out the fact that they have become more clinical since that match(I think they beat Algeria with only 2 shots on target), that is a nitro-level confidence booster. There mindset will be if we can create just that same number of chances like we did in the first leg, considering the fact that we are more clinical now and their gk is worse than ever, we may be able to put one away and hold out for the remainder of the game. If they score the first goal we have a big problem, I am not sure we have won a game that we conceded first under Rohr, he is not a tactical genius.


Also, they may watch our clips from their first match against us down to our last match and notice one thing, our midfielders(Mikel is included) all take atleast 20mins to settle into any game and that is a bad omen. If they can take advantage of that by attacking through the middle instead of the wings in the first twenty minutes then they are sure of two good chances, that is assuming Onazi remains Onazi and is caught out of position a lot of times in the first half and Ndidi remains Ndidi who would rather concentrate on attack rather than defence.


Finally they will watch that first leg again and discover that their lord and saviour(Echejile) who provided them with 3 good chances in the first leg is still our LB. Now Leon is a good CB, but he is different from Omeruo in the sense that he is always quick to rush out whenever a player beats his LB, now this is not really a bad thing but with proper tactics it becomes a bad thing. Create an overload and Leon is dinner, that is let the RW beat Echejile and while Leon comes out to mark the RB runs past Leon and receives a pass, that means Leon is out of the equation and assuming Onazi isn't back covering they have a safe passage to our 18.

Now they have to pray that all these things go according to plan and they must remain clinical. If after the first twenty minutes they haven't scored then they should pull back and choke every attack and wait patiently for that 60-70th minute mark. All in all this will not be a blowout, quote me anywhere. You do not destroy Zambia, it is impossible, highest two goals, you do not see them at the wrong end of a proper hiding
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 2:19pm On Oct 04, 2017
junnyjake:
When it comes to Onazi this time, we need not cry sentiments.

Is Ndidi more likely to score from range than Onazi? Yes, absolutely.

Agree with him on that and forget about his past stand on Onazi hereby prolonging the argument.

Onazi was poor against SA, fact! And in fact I blame him for the 2nd goal. He's had some great games for SE, and he's still valuable to the team. Finish.
tiri gbosa for you
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 1:35pm On Oct 04, 2017
komekn:
Bonaventure seems to be a good prospect, I really don't know much about him. He does seem familiar, was he involved with the Nigeria All stars team that came to Manchester some years ago with John Fashanuhuh

Dessers has done well at Utrecht, Onyekuru is already owned by Everton and I believe if not for work permit issues he would be in the EPL. That may still happen if Koeman is still here in the next few weeks, as they are now desperate for attacking options and have none. Can Onyekuru be a striker for Everton No, but a winger yes. He is a bit too lightweight for my liking. Watched him against Celtic and he struggled. You can see how Musa has struggled at Leicester.

Awoniyi currently needs to prove himself, he is far off the mark. To be brutally honest there are at least 10 Nigerian origin players better than him currently in the championship and EPL.

Unfortunately the league they are playing in is not a very strong league. That doesn't mean they are not good. However, I expect them to be dominating in those leagues and if they are not then questions about thier quality.

They do not have to be in the EPL but it cannot be denied that if you are cutting it in the premiership and making waves then you will be quality and good enough for the SE.

Incidentally our top players are from the EPL Moses Ighalo, KC, Iwobi, Mikel, Ndidi, and soon to be Aina. Take these players out and what do we have left.

So the idea that you must be in the EPL is not necessarily true but it's a great bench mark for quality.
I don't think Onyekuru struggled against Celtic. Whenever he got involved he was atleast okay if not good just that he wasn't always getting the ball. If Anderletch had decided to channel their attacks through him he would have done a lot better, right now he is a newbie, I expect them to rely more on him in the coming weeks/months
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 1:24pm On Oct 04, 2017
Kog45:
No o Michael 2 just feel Onazi is not d best for that position but d guy deserves some respect coz i don't see any better midfielder than him for now or do we say Agu,Esiti,Ogu are better even Ndidi yet to show us is better than Onazi of 2013/14.
first of all, comments like this are part of the reasons why I respect you a lot, thumbs up.

Second, you are just re-echoing my points. The Onazi of 2013/2014 was a beast. You can see I said somewhere that if Onazi finished that game against France or if we got that clear penalty we would have won. I would never ever displace that 2013-2015 Onazi but the point is that ever since he moved to Trabzonspor his discipline, positioning, shot accuracy etc etc have all gone slightly downhill. At some point you have to understand that picking the best players for each position doesn't always mean you will win. I mean in 2008, Masch was a better DMF than Busquets but we all know what happened, why? Because Busq was willing to listen and sit tight as the main DMF. Now if Onazi discovers or rediscovers his 2013-2015 form(maybe by moving to a better club) then if I ever call for his head again let me know why, but the bottomline is that we have people who can slot into the midfield, make it better and Onazi will be forgotten for now.

For those who think I hate Onazi because he took my girlfriend, when that one kukuma start kwanu? Na me go collect his gf na
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 1:15pm On Oct 04, 2017
neighy:
maybe you dont get his point... He is trying to say ndidi shoots better than onazi (taking SPG) into consideration..
Just like saying lampard has more goals from shot than gerrard that is not underrating gerard ... But lampard is more likely to score
thank you very much
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 8:52am On Oct 04, 2017
Kog45:
Pls what is so special picking Onazi to test keeper in shooting training session and what do u mean by shot conversion ratio,are u talking in a match situation or what.
I mean generally, if you play a corner kick and it is headed out and you have a nigerian players approaching the ball to strike the ball, would you rather have Ndidi take such a shot or Onazi? Match or training doesn't change much
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 8:50am On Oct 04, 2017
Kog45:
Haba Michael 2 testing keeper with a shot in training and taking balls from d stand.

If u talk about match situation i w agree with u but not one on one situation shot especially training session.

Pls always give little respect to Onazi Ogenyi.I still remember his outside shot for Lazio just like Olishe goal against Spain.
this is why I said the coach may be training him for long shots and not one-on-one shots, that was what I said.


Meanwhile Onazi once upon a time had a good shot, now his shots are almost always wayward maybe he stopped training but his shots now are way below Ndidi's shots
BusinessRe: Brent Crude Oil Plunges To $55 A Barrel Amid Rising Production by Mickael2(m): 8:24am On Oct 04, 2017
55 dollars per barrel still isn't bad. I mean the budget was based on the assumption that crude oil would be sold for 45 dollars per barrel and we currently should be having surplus fund but why isn't this reflecting on the lives of average nigerians? Why are we out of recession but still living in penury?
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 8:14am On Oct 04, 2017
Mujtahida:
Trust me, I'd love to see your suggested combo but not now. The stakes are higher now and midfield is crucial to our game cos the Zambians are not too enterprising there. After this game we can say hello to all forms of experimentation.
if Moses Simon starts, then I'd think that our wide men(fullbacks and wingers) would be a lot more crucial because most of the attacks from the SE and Zambia will be going through the wings
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 8:13am On Oct 04, 2017
Humility017:
you and this onazi issue....eehh
how about his shots against Ethiopia some years ago during the World cup qualifier
ok between Onazi and Ndidi who has a better shot-conversion ratio? This is not about Onazi or anything, just the shot conversion ratio. Knowing that the Zambians will result to taking shots from outside the box we need our gk to be prepared for that and who can take long shots from outside the box? Ndidi and Nacho, I have already given reasons why Nacho couldn't be choosen.

However Basco made a nice point sha, it could just be fatigue
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 7:20am On Oct 04, 2017
BascoVanVeli:
like really? u just couldn't help ur self abi? Same Onazi that broke his teammate hand with shot.
Onazi was just a random example, and yes his shot-conversion ratio isn't great, this has nothing to do with anything.

Ok would you rather choose Mikel to be testing the gk?
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 6:51am On Oct 04, 2017
Dedebanky85:
That was Esiti's introduction that slowed and stifled any kinda threat the Zambians had in Ndola. I don't think Ogu even made the bench in that game. Subs were Musa, Esiti and I think Shehu if I can recollect well.
But I do get your points regarding Ogu. I remember he and Mikel over bossed the game against the Uruguayan team in that 2013 confeds.
not to dispute how good the combo was but you can say 'they held their own against a Uruguayan side', I mean bossing the midfield means totally outplaying someone in the middle and against Uruguay that wasn't so much of the case
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 6:46am On Oct 04, 2017
Mujtahida:
So Ogu played in the Zambian first leg? I can't recall
i thought it was Esiti that came on?
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 6:40am On Oct 04, 2017
BascoVanVeli:
Ndidi is doing the bolded because Rohr must know he is fatigued. I must admit the man doesn't miss much, good job.
Or because he can hit the ball better than most of the guys we have. I mean will you choose Onazi to test the gk? You will have to be picking the balls from outside the stadium. The only other option would have been Iheanacho but he hasn't been playing and he isn't in peak condition so the need to train a lot more before the game
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 6:37am On Oct 04, 2017
Kog45:
meaning Ezenwa is starting,after nailing Zambia,i want to see Ajiboye in goal against Algeria,possible d guy m be better than d duo.
we have the advantage of training for up to four days, do not be suprised if today the gk trainer decides to train personally with Akpeyi. Your policy will come to play when we see the gk that the gk trainer is training personally with on the last day of training, not now
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 6:34am On Oct 04, 2017
Mujtahida:
It has never been tried. Not now please.
before that first leg against Algeria we were yet to test the Onazi-Etebo-Mikel partnership but it worked anyways. We know Etebo can do a job as the CMF(better than Ndidi to some extent) and we know Ndidi can do a job as the DMF(definelty better than Onazi), so what's there? You never know if you don't go
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 8:52pm On Oct 03, 2017
Icon4s:
Oya from the list of available players give us your preferred midfield combo.
Ndidi-Etebo-Mikel of course grin
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 5:34pm On Oct 03, 2017
edi287:
He was scoring more than 20 goals as a winger and let's not forget the season where he scored 42. Cr7 wasn't always the tap in king you guys make him out to be. Like I said, go watch videos of his first 2 seasons at Madrid and come tell me if all he has is finishing. Dude simply adjusted his game to extend his career. Nothing wrong with that.
And have you watched Hazard's videos? Hazard has a better dribbling accuracy than Ronaldo did in his best season(that's best season in regards to his dribbling ability alone) but do we consider Hazard?


Watch Neymar's dribbling abilities and tell me it wasn't better than Ronaldo's at that age. We have had a lot of Ronaldo-like players and I guess they all should be in that 'genius' bracket according to you
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 5:31pm On Oct 03, 2017
AIG07:
A sincere question needs a sincere answer?

In the absence of these trio, does the SE stands a chance against 'this' Zambian team?
Balogun
Mikel
V. Moses.
I would say a big NO! Especially if we start with Onazi-Ndidi combo
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 5:23pm On Oct 03, 2017
edi287:
It's like some of you guys have forgotten the Cr7 of man united and early madrid days. The super skillful one that dribbles past players with ease. I saw someone say apart from scoring, there's nothing cr7 can do that Hazard can't....all I have to say is go and watch old videos of him. People forget so easily
when he was doing it back then how many goals did he score? And he did it for 3-4years maximum and he wasn't the kind of guy that would dribble like 6 players and score, he would always isolate just one guy on the wing and destroy the person totally. When we talk Maradona, Pele or Messi(I could add Ronaldinho), we are talking about players that can pick the ball up from the center of the pitch and beat like 6-7 defenders repeatedly before they score. I'd sooner rank Okocha as a football genius before Ronaldo IMO
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 5:21pm On Oct 03, 2017
Joebie:
I have.. we had his VCR tapes back in the days..
We are talking of a player at 17 already doing wonders
leave that matter. when you talk of the greatest ever you have to look beyond your generation.
I am guessing VCR is that black stuff with those long black film, we used to call it tape sha, not VCR. I have those stuffs too of him, I have one for every single match he played at his first world cup and you could watch for close to 50minutes and you won't see the guy doing anything. Watch Maradona or Messi, almost every 20minutes you are sure he will beat one or two players in an embarrasing manner. However you may like him because of that his finish(where he was running to meet a through ball and the gk rushed out only for Pele to run over the ball leaving the keeper for dead, he missed the goal though)
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 4:29pm On Oct 03, 2017
Icon4s:
Mikel will definitely play the AM position.

One of Simon and Iwobi will have to start from the bench.

The ........Ndidi........Onazi
.......................Mikel combo seams to be working well. I don't see Rohr changing that.
the combo isn't exactly working well, Mikel is working well for the team, totally different more like Mikel-dependencia, making the Ndidi-Onazi combo look good but whenever Mikel leaves the pitch we die
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 4:26pm On Oct 03, 2017
tbaba1234:
I think Onazi is integral... His breaking up play was top class against Cameroon
no reason for us not to assume that Ndidi can do that better, I mean that is what he does to perfection for Leicester.


I think Basco has a point here, I wouldn't want Iwobi on the wings after seeing the face of our 20year old grandfather and comparing that with the size of Iwobi's legs, God should protect that boy against those legs abeg oo
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 4:23pm On Oct 03, 2017
Joebie:
Put Pele as #1 ever, and everything you say is valid.

The Messi and Ronaldo debate have gone on for so long that people, even editors are daring to place Messi as the best ever. That's the greatest football sin ever.

Other arguments and comparisons I don't care.
tell me the honest truth, have you ever watched a single match that Pele played? Youtube right?
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 2:06pm On Oct 03, 2017
Icon79:
Bingo! As I had said over and over and over again: take away Cristiano's goals, he's useless to any team. Anybody can score goals if you're playing with the likes of Marcelo, Luka Modric, Toni Kroos, Isco, Casemiro, etc. All Cristiano has to do is to play at the shoulder of the last defender and meet the final pass. Does anybody realize that a vast majority of Cristiano's goals these days are mostly tap ins!

And I am not the only one that have said this because even Sergio Ramos once said openly that Cristiano is excused from doing any defensive works because he's expected to score 30 goals per season for Real Madrid.

The real super stars like Messi and Maradona can change the game even without scoring goals. You cannot be the best player in the world if all you do is score goals....there's more to football than goal scoring!


O pari
the thing tire me oo. His teammates will strive to create great chances for him atleast 10times in a match and he puts away 5 and everybody will forget the rest of the players. Hardly can you see another madrid player scoring 30goals a season because all the chances are for Ronaldo to score. Anyways let's stop spamming the thread
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:50pm On Oct 02, 2017
safarigirl:
oya, no vex again. Sorry
grin
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 9:59pm On Oct 02, 2017
safarigirl:
you have? shocked

Your moniker is the most recent to dabble on the CR7 goal scoring matter, that's why your name is first
you know these newbies can make person vex. You understand na, you have been there before
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 9:47pm On Oct 02, 2017
safarigirl:
From Roy Keane to Ronaldo and Iniesya, before you know it Ramos, Marcelo and Pique will join the argument.

It wpukd be nice if you alk agreed to disagrew ao we can get to the matter that brought everyone to this thread.

Cc Mickael2, bataderemi, Napoleon55, TheGoodJoe, goldfish80 and all other affected parties
why is my name the first name kwanu?sad i mean I didn't start it and I have left the conversation since
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 9:45pm On Oct 02, 2017
Napoleon55:
is goal scoring not part of football?
u would even think goal keeping,marking,noding are not part of football,only dribbles?
goalscoring is not what makes little kids place blocks on the road just so they can play football. It's the skills, the trickery, the vision and stuffs like that. We have seen Suarez outscore Ronaldo, no reason why we can't assume that if you place another top striker in madrid for 10 years he won't score more than Ronaldo. Ronaldo has a team built around him, where he gets to play....this is a SE thread, let's go back to the main thing

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