Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 8:22pm On Dec 01, 2016 |
bigblangston: Hello TheSuperCOWARD! I know you wouldn't dare quote me but I can. Not all of us can come online and start bragging on what we are up to in reality unlike you that's fond of describing what you are in which I can bet my 2cents that you are not. Don't let me start with your medical whatever you claimed to be in which I'm very sure you are not. I know your type out there only to be forming what you are not in reality but LOOTING google to see some medical words to sustain your online ego. I remembered when a certain moniker bursted your lying _ass about you creating a Maastricht or whatever moniker just to feel important. You wanna know what I do in the real world? I will leave that to you so that your numbskull Yara Yara (very stale method to be relevant in the scheme of things) can find something doing. Part time medical student (Lol). This is me trying to be nice, just quote me and see what I have waiting for you... Ninnyhammer!!! I know Joseph has ended this little friction but in the spirit of fairness I believe I have to condemn this just like I have been condemning TheSuperNerd at times. Now what he said there doesn't seem bad to me, he didn't call anybody's name, it's called a subtle dig, he didn't call your name so you can't call him back although you know it was directed towards you, all you can do is to look for an oppurtunity to hit back in the same manner. There was when I was saying somebody and I added 'Onazi fanboys', I didn't call anybody's name but they got my message perfectly. Honestly you shouldn't have quoted him, this one isn't an insult at all. I would tell you to apologise so that TheSuperNerd can learn that from you, besides, Seniors suppose act like seniors towards their juniors no be so? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 5:53pm On Dec 01, 2016 |
TheSuperNerd: Boyyyy!!! During the first golden era of our football.... In August '93, naaaah... I was just one year old plus.... Tata like me... #IndomieGeneration.... But I saw lots of clips as regards Okocha's magical goal against Kahn. #memories
Hope our boys of the current era can keep up with their rise to do even more than this.  .......................................................................
Okocha Speaks On 1993 Goal Of The Season: Nothing Personal Against Kahn
https://allnigeriasoccer.com/football_pics/68887Okocha.jpg
Retired Nigeria international Jay-Jay Okocha has commented on his goal against Karlsruhe in the Bundesliga back in the 1992-1993 season which was voted Goal of the Season by many publications.
With the scoreboard reading 2-1, Okocha, who was introduced in the 66th minute, received a pass from Uwe Bein and saw himself surrounded by the whole Karlsruhe defense but refused to be discouraged.
He dribbled the defenders and goalkeeping legend Oliver Kahn , changed direction and was unpredictable in all his moves, before slotting the ball past Kahn.
“It’s great to be back in my 2nd home, my career began here. The goal against @OliverKahn was nothing personal, ” Okocha said.
Okocha scored that memorable goal in the 87th minute of the contest at the Commerzbank Arena on August 31, 1993.
Now 43, he spent four years with Eintracht Frankfurt and later represented Fenerbahce, PSG, Bolton Wanderers and Hull City.
Source: http://allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=21256 If a brazillian scores that goal, it will be dubbed the best goal in the last 10000000 years. Racism is still real, that goal didn't even win any special award did it? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 4:25pm On Dec 01, 2016 |
TheSuperNerd: Loooolllll..... Coming from you, it's no surprise at all....... Lord have mercy... Hahahaha... Some folks can't even tell an "insult" from a jab..... Loollll *smh, lolll* take a dig at someone and take a jab at someone; take digs at someone Fig. to insult or pester someone. Why did you take a jab at Sam? You're always taking digs at people who think they're your friends. Jane is always taking digs at Bob, but she never really means any harm. See also: dig, take that's the definition of 'jab at someone', what's the difference there? It might sound friendly to you but it isn't, I have told you before |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 4:04pm On Dec 01, 2016 |
Mujtahida: Guy easy nawww! Your use of language in all honesty is brash if not downright disrespectful. I was attracted to this thread because of the level headed discourse on football going on here but it's gradually turning toxic and without being accusatory, I'd say you don't like being disagreed with and you fling words out in a way that can hurt others. We are all guys. Please let's be civil and respectful to each other even when view points differ. We should persuade, coax, convince not cut others with rude words, dismiss their opinions and even rubbish their person. Yes I am new to this thread but I will not standby and allow disrespect and coarseness and unfeelingness to be aimed at anyone. I am not the self appointed policeman here but I swear, I will not standby because the least we owe each other here is respect. Sadly, the thread is going downhill, seems like a high-school thread where you attack whoever comes across your lane. I was reading the comments I missed, about 70% of the comments coming from TheSuperNerd all had various degrees of insults embedded into them, i have already complained about it before but it's a free world sha, guess it's his nature, we will just accept it and move on |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 5:38pm On Nov 28, 2016 |
TheSuperNerd: **Yawns** All this talk of yours is just plain bollocks....
I have given you the proof of Messi's LEFT-FOOTEDNESS SYNDROME AND showed you that Iheanacho is likely to take same path. Nacho's right foot goal was NO tap-in... Go watch that goal if you haven't.
AND Nacho's dummy pass to Sterling which set him (sterling) clear to give a simple assist/pass to Nolito in City's 4-1 win over stoke this season... Hahahaha.. That was his right foot again. Abeg... Several examples dey..... Try harder to put down Nacho's right foot... Hahahahahahaha....
As for Moses Simon and Sane... I like both players. So no need for me to dwell on them much.
So biko.... When judging on quality next time, judge with facts in mind. MESSI IS A ONE-FOOTED DEMON... THAT'S A FACT. that dummy follow too? Lolz, come on!!! He literally missed the ball and it went to Sterling, granted he did it intentionally but that wasn't a difficult at all at all. His goal against Norwich too wasn't difficult. We both love Nacho but let's reduce the hype, he will be a great player, probably, but let's not over hype him one bit |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 5:04pm On Nov 28, 2016 |
TheSuperNerd: You love to be served facts right.... Oya... Deal with this... Stats for the time he made 500 career goals:
Courtesy of Yara Yara himself.... I got other matters at hand.
https://messivsronaldo.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Messi-500-infographic.jpg
Key:
Left foot goals: 405 (81%) Right foot goals: 72 (14.4 %) Headed goals: 21 (4.2 %) Other: 2 (1 chest, 1 hand) (0.4%)
So Is Messi predominantly left-footed or NOT??!!!!
I ALSO HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO SAY.... 
Note: Iheanacho also scored with his right foot against Norwich last season in the FA cup, with his head against Southampton in the EPL and with his back against Swansea!!! So let the body parts goals count begin for Nacho too and see if it wont be something similar to Messi...
That's 3 other body part goals apart from his 15 with his left. Messi's first 20 professional goals were possibly all scored with his left sef... Or maybe 18 out of 20. Now see the reflection on the 500 goals count by body parts. thats absolutely funny, but before I go on, I am actually happy that you didn't argue the Sane/Moses Simon stuff. Now let me ask, if I present a tapin infront of you, you can convert with your weaker foot and the stat collectors will immediately write it down as a goal scored using your weaker foot, but that's a tapin. On the contrary, you get the ball almost 30 yards from goal and you curl the ball with your weaker foot(curl, not strike) and it nestles perfectly, and you have done it not once, not twice, but each time the goal will be counted as just one goal scored with your weaker foot. If you look at the stats of the two players I used as my examples, you will declare that their weaker feet are identical but if you actually watch the games in question you can then judge conclusively. Watch Messi's goal against Villareal in 2014? Or 2015 and you will see just what he did with his right foot there, I can give you 15 other examples, now all I need from you is just a single clip of Iheanacho doing anything meaningfully difficult with his right foot, even if he hit the bar with his weak foot, just show it to me, I judge based on quality not the end product |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 4:17pm On Nov 28, 2016 |
TheSuperNerd: What hype??!!!
Who's Sane to Iheanacho?? Who?? Sane won't make our bench either... If a player like Moses Simon and Ahmed Musa can be benched in the present Super Eagles team then who the heck is Sane??
And yes, Iheanacho can be better than Messi!!!! If u dont believe it or dont like the sound of it then swerve!!!
And messi is so predominantly left footed!!!!! Dont bring out bollocks of his being not so left-footed.... He's so LEFT FOOTED THAT EVEN HE CANT HELP IT... Did you see his goal last night?? He still used his left sef!!!
And yes a 19yr old Nacho had a better first professional season than Lionel Messi himself in his first professional season!!!! #Fact
What's even there to argue?? Abeg.. If you dont like the sound of it... Just swerve abeg. I got no time for this. if you think that Moses Simon is better than Sane and you also believe that Messi's right foot is predominantly useless(25.7% of his goals last season or last two seasons came from his right foot, thats one goal in every 4 out of 62 or so) then I don't have anything else to say |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 3:34pm On Nov 28, 2016 |
komekn: The issue is not who is coming in but the relationship dynamics, only Kelechi can answer that question or someone who is privy to those dynamics.
Guardiola can be ruthless and may not show any loyalty to the young Kelechi. The way he has treated Yaya tells me he no send.
If Kelechi can see the writing on the wall, it may be time to move on. He needs continous game time to get to the next level. I kinda support Goodjoe here. What exactly will he achieve with that game time? You enter into a match to do what you learnt in the training ground, what if the coach no dey even teach you anything for training ground nko? You become predictable and your stock will depreciate. Kelechi should not move to 'just any club for the sake of game time', that learning process is absolutely vital especially for a 19 year old |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 3:32pm On Nov 28, 2016 |
TheSuperNerd: The bolded sums it all up..... Is Leroy Sane in the same class as Kelechi?? NOOOO!!!!
What about Pablo maffeo?? NOOO WAYYY!!! THAT'S AN INSULT SEF!!!
Adarabioyo?? Angelino?? Aleix Garcia?? HELL NOOOOO!!!!!
Kelechi Iheanacho is Europe's deadliest and most clinical forward based on his goals&Assists output per minute on the field of play.
He's also a "super regular" in a super competitive SUPER EAGLES SIDE, the Nigerian National team. Haba!!!!!
All the others are not... In the UEFA Golden Boy award, He even trumped Sane in the overall rankings.
Kelechi no get mate among him fellow young guns. He's done enough and is on another level compared to them.
SIR THEGOODJOE.... Pep has no justification to dump Kelechi on the bench for five straight games especially when he is in form and has always delivered when given a chance.
A player wont really grow unless you give him a chance to show on the field what you've been grinding into him on the training ground. It's just like studying and learning in classrooms without actually getting tested in the exam halls.
What should we say then?? That until you're perfect in understanding then exams will be set for you?? Is that how schooling it?? MUST ONE BE PERFECT IN EVERYTHING BEFORE HE'S TESTED OUT THERE?? I repeat... even Messi was not perfect in everything when he got his big break at Barca!!! Heck!!! Kelechi's first professional season even trumps Messi's first professional season and Messi even played more minutes!!!! Damn!!!
I REPEAT YET AGAIN, IF THE CITYZENS LOSE KELECHI "THE ALIEN KID" IHEANACHO, IT WILL COME BACK TO HAUNT THEM IN MANY WAYS COZ THEY WILL BE LOSING A SUPER YOUNG PLAYER WHO WILL TURN OUT "WORLD-CLASS" EVENTUALLY. #Wanna bet?
Pep berra knock down that rigid, stupid philosophical bullcrap and evasive tactical reason of his and admit that Nacho is just not in his plans so that we can all know where Nacho stands in the club's future.
I RATE PEP AS ONE OF THE WORLD'S FINEST TACTICAL GENIUSES IN THE GAME BUT PEP IS NOT THE ONLY COACH WHO CAN MOULD NACHO....
Heck!!! Even Pellegrini did a good job with Nacho and was more willing even with his own stubborn rigidity to drop Bony when it actually mattered and made Nacho no.2 forward.
NACHO CAN ALSO FILL IN AS AM OR RWF..... SINCE CITY HARDLY PLAY A SYSTEM THAT PERMITS AN SS.... Pep got no excuse!!! Nacho didnt dip in form....
Nacho works like a beast in training and you cant tell me he hasnt improved one or two aspects of his game all this while.... We are talking about a kid who's a fast learner!!!
PEP IS REALLY ERRING HERE WITH THE POSTER BOY OF THE CITY ACADEMY!!! HE'S EVEN THINKING OF STILL BRINGING IN A BIG WORLD CLASS PLAYER!!! POSSIBLY LIONEL MESSI!!!! IS PEP CRAZY?? IS HE FOR REAL?? What is his problem??
In Nacho, I see a super jewel and one who can outshine the greats but if pep doesnt see that then Nacho should leave. PEP ISNT THE ONLY GREAT/FANTASTIC TALENTS-MOULDING COACH AROUND.
City fans will regret it if Nacho leaves. Mark my words.
And Nacho will haunt them forever with loads of goals anytime he faces them. Even Pep's tactical genius wont stop it from happening... How do you stop a player who knows how to bury chances (half, quarter, and full) like an ice-cold assasin (in ways even Messi will be envious of) and knows how to attack space relentlessly?? What people dont seem to see is that Kelechi can be better than Messi.... The stats show that and his talents show it too.
City are about to make the biggest mistake in their history if care is not taken...... AND THAT LIKELY MISTAKE IS "LOSING IHEANACHO" Sane plays for Germany, different thing entirely, Nacho won't smell the german bench either, Germans are pure racists and everybody knows that. Agreed, Nacho might be better than Sane but let's not play down Sane's abilities just so that we can prove that Nacho is better. The bold part is not possible. Stats isn't everything, Messi started as a side midfielder, not even a winger, different thing entirely, I like being realistic. Messi isn't as predominantly one footed as people imagine unlike Nacho...are we seriously going to argue if a 19 year old Nacho is better than a 19 year old Messi? Messi never win Balon D'Or by then? Let's reduce the hype please |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 3:23pm On Nov 28, 2016 |
zicky: . Theory without practical, abei the learning do, when nacho no be all those mechanical English players that needs to learn how to kick a ball, how to stand when taking throw in or how to keep your face when taking shot. but Mikel has been training alone and without looking sideways, I can confidently tell you that he has been at his best these past 3 games(although he usually lasts for about 60mins), but that underlines the importance of training with a good coach. So just telling him to go out on loan to a team coached by Mazzarri for example will only give him the necessary game time but won't improve his overall play. So if you ask me, if teams with promising coaches do not come for him this January, then let him just stay and push for a spot, we don't have any engagements till August, so he can move during the transfer window to teams with promising coaches like Howe, Benitez and co |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:27am On Nov 25, 2016 |
komekn: I agree that teams we have produced since 2013 have been the youngest U17's in the context of Nigeria we have produced.
However, the diction of appropriate may be aspirational. As a result scientific possibility still remains, a boy of 22 from an impoverished malnourished background will have the possibility of being classed as 17 with an MRI scan. i honestly doubt if you know how this MRI works, because if you did, you'd understand that it's even easier for the scan to grade a 17 year old as an overaged player than for it to accept an 18 year old, once you are 6 months older than 18, it becomes close to impossible |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:21am On Nov 25, 2016 |
bigblangston: I last saw the HOBGOBLIN word when I read Midsummer Night's Dream 17 years ago... Doctor Mike why did u ve to take me back in time? lolzzz. Sorry it was autocorrect ooh, I wonder how that word made it into my phone's dictionary |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 7:10pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:
Thanks for the inspirational, motivational and comforting post.
Concerning Nacho and Jesus, I agree with Pep, Nacho has to keep doing what he does in training. Fighting to prove to Guardiola that he can put his confidence in him. Gabriel Jesus is good and both of them will make the team stronger. More will come in. Maybe Hazard Jnr, Bailey or even Suarez.
Nacho has to believe he can become as good as the likes of Messi, Neymar and Suarez. Keep fighting and turning himself into a machine. He can become another player from another planet. At that point, he will become undroppable. boss, I am deeply sorry that I missed your birthday. I had hobgoblin a remaining course at UNEC and the network there was so poor. I am very very sorry, happy birthday sha |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:53am On Nov 23, 2016 |
TheSuperNerd: Nacho is the most clinical/most prolific/most efficient/deadliest finisher in Europe. If it doesn't matter to you then it does to a lotta people.
**And Deadliest finisher is the right word (check link below).
Nacho's stats in the EPL is still intimidating till today. He's got the best Goals-per-minute ratio in the History of the EPL and You say nobody cares?? Would the EPL have brought that to our notice if nobody cared??
You think players at his age last season were making such stats?? Even Messi didn't in his first professional season. So it does matter and it's not my fault the EPL official twitter handle acknowledged that earlier this year and same thing is happening even now.
Check this out and tell me if you didnt see "deadliest finishers in europe" (this is as at April 25, 2016, we know the full story today):
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3558073/Kelechi-Iheanacho-better-minute-goal-ratio-Cristiano-Ronaldo-Lionel-Messi-Luis-Suarez-Manchester-City-forward-Europe-s-deadliest-player.html if you are asked as a goalkeeper, which of the following players you'd rather face one on one, which one would you choose; Ronaldo Messi Suarez Griezman Iheanacho Neymar Bale Benzema Aguero Lewandowski even Harry Kane. Let's not be biased here at all, Iheanacho isn't part of the deadliest strikers in Europe, that's deadliest as in the most feared, not the most efficient. If you even read that article you'd understand that they meant deadliest as in the most efficient not the most feared. Iheanacho's aerial prowess is poor, we all know that, his weaker foot efficiency isn't great either which is what we all want him to improve upon, right now for me, he isn't among the deadliest strikers in England |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:39am On Nov 23, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:
I can not believe you wrote this. You will advise Iheanacho to leave training and working everyday with Guardiola. Then go to Benitez in the Championship. Or work with Pardew or Howe. Iheanacho is at the perfect place. We saw him against Algeria operate at a higher level than any player on the pitch when it comes to pressing.
Players like Gundogan are coming to City to train with Guardiola and you are advising Iheanacho to leave. but Gundogan isn't sitting on the bench. Training is another thing, if it could be possible for him to train with Man city and play for another team at the same time then I am up for it. See, if he goes to another team, and scores maybe 20 goals a season then Guardiola will be criticised if he leaves him on the bench next season when he returns. But as at now, which kind training? Will training help him maintain his sharpness in front of goal? Paco Alcacer trains with Messi and Suarez, yet his finishing abilities are going down, same will happen to Nacho right now |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 6:43am On Nov 23, 2016 |
TheSuperNerd: @first bolded... I dont think he's delusional at all He's actually right to say so. His (Iheanacho's) Goals-ratio in his first professional season in Europe shows it. And he's unto it again this season. 
Even the Epl official site and Twitter handles couldnt deny his "deadliness" and finishing prowess when the stats were collated.
@Second bolded... You still doubt it? Stats are there Sir. 
@Third bolded.... More than Iheanacho?? I think you guys are saying different things entirely. You and GoodJoe are pointing out that Nacho is one of the most efficient strikers in Europe, not in any way the deadliest and we have Man city to thank for not giving him an oppurtunity to stamp his authority as one of the deadliest. Right now he is just part of the most efficient finishers and frankly nobody cares about that. Ronaldo wastes a lot of shots, doesn't prevent him from finishing each season as one of the top players. Saurez misses open chances like there is no tomorrow yet he is definetly the best no 9 in the world. The only person who combines deadliness and efficiency is Messi who was trained by Guardiola too, hence I do understand why the GoodJoe wants him to stay....but come on! Messi was a starter then, the golden boy, Nacho is nobody's golden boy over there, these are Arabs, all they want is money so let Nacho move. There are small teams with really good coaches, Howe is a good coach, Pardew is too and even Benitez, so Nacho should consider a move like seriously. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:21pm On Nov 21, 2016 |
Tinydick: Exactly bro,,,,,remain bless
Enyema isn't getting younger ,,,,we won't have him forever We should forget about him Buffon is 40 years old, Enyeama is 34 or thereabouts, he still has 6 years left, that's 2 WCs atleast |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 4:13pm On Nov 21, 2016 |
TheSuperNerd: https://www.thebreakingtimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Super-Eagles-first-training-session-ahead-of-the-2017-AFCON-qualifiers-in-Uyo_-8.jpg
Eagles will be ranked (among) Top 10 teams in the World – Akinwunmi
Nigeria Football Federation (NFF) 1st Vice President, Seyi Akinwunmi, says he dreams to see the Super Eagles ranked among the top 10 teams of the world sooner than later.
In the last FIFA rankings in October, the Super Eagles were ranked a distant 60th in the world and 11th in Africa but there are strong indications that they could move 10 steps up to 50 in the coming November rankings as a result of their impressive performances in the 2018 World Cup qualifiers against Zambia and Algeria.
Akinwunmi said that the Super Eagles' progression in the FIFA rankings is an indication that Nigerian football is on the right track and in right hands.
“I respect FIFA and I respect their rankings but FIFA rankings are only one aspect of our assessment of our football development in Nigeria. In that aspect we’re moving forward.
“We want to go back to the top 10 and that’s my dream but is only one aspect. We’ve so many things to do for our football in Nigeria- youth development, beach soccer and all others but is good news to see the Super Eagles move steps up in the FIFA ladder,” he said.
FIFA rankings for November will be announced on Thursday 24.
Source: http://www.thebreakingtimes.com/eagles-will-be-ranked-top-10-teams-in-the-world-akinwunmi/ our recent form is covering our rotten system. I still maintain that Amaju Picnic and his glory hunting friends aren't the best administrators we have, they shouldn't be given a second tenure at all. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 4:10pm On Nov 21, 2016 |
Icon79: I was surprised that we couldn't get Enyeama to play against Algeria. However, we should let him go, if he had actually said that he can only come back if we qualify for the World Cup. We don't need such attitude. And in addition, how could we discard a player who sweated to help us qualify for the world cup just so we can make room for Enyeama? BS upon BS!
O pari on the contrary, Enyeama is going to come back before the World Cup, won't be suprised if he comes back before any FIFA free window in July next year. That news then was fake |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 1:24pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
Certitude: Hey! Get me his head... If Aluko is good enough to bench Iwobi, i'm sure he would be moved to another position except those players in those positions are rated above him by the coach. do you mean they will move Iwobi or Aluko? Iwobi can only play Mikel's position besides his own position, and Mikel is untouchable |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 1:03pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
Iwobi benched. We all saw it coming, hopefully this will reignite his initial form during the start of the season |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 12:13pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe: Barcelona under Guardiola, especially in his first season held the ball long and distributed it smoothly. I think Villarreal, two seasons ago and the Spanish junior sides under Luis Milla.
When I refer to Mikel playing under a possessive coach, I mean a coach and most important a team who have a history of keeping long possession and relishes slow build-up plays.
Mikel will thrive in such situations. A coach like that will adore Mikel.
In a place like West Ham, you might like Mikel slowing down the play but the fans may criticise it.
Mikel needs the ball coming through him while he distributes it with his ticking passes. These clubs do not have that history. the barcelona team then was known for it's one-touch football. Nobody held the ball longer than required. Players like Xavi and Busquets(who Mikel can replace directly) had up to 150 passes per match which wouldn't be possible if they held up the ball like Mikel. Mikel won't really thrive in that team especially when they start drawing those triangles all over the pitch. Mikel will thrive in a team where most of their possession is in the defensive half, but for Barca-like teams that retain possession in the opponents half(ie attacking half), Mikel will be lost. PS: nobody cares about the fans these days. Newcastle fans called for Pardew's head, he left and they got relegated, results matter |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 12:05pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
goldfish80: You nailed it on training wing backs first as wingers. That's the new school way of training wing backs. Example, Hector Belerin was bought from Barca as a devastating winger. He was coached by Arsenal and was converted as a RWB, in Little over 4yrs we are looking at one of the best Wing backs in the morden game.
The training of wing backs have evolved from what we saw in the 90s. Where full backs are first trained as CB.. Guys like Maldini, Thuram etc...
I bring this up because I feel Sone Aluko would have made a world class Wing back if he had the luck of being trained by elite developmental managers like Wenger, Klop, Favre, etc.... Instead he spent most of his time with average British managers in the lower ranks of English and Scottish football who couldn't see beyond their nose. exactly! We are praising Moses' workrate but Aluko's own is even more than his. I remember a Fulham match that I watched, the guy was running for 90 mins non-stop. He can defend and he can also take on a player, I don't really know if he can play with his left foot well but if he can then Iwobi might have a serious contender for that his LMF position. In the match against Algeria, immediately Moses switched wings to the left, the Algerians started moving through the right because Iwobi wasn't going to defend, if we can have two side midfielders who can defend and attack with such high workrate then our team would be devastating. I know that Iwobi fanboys will probably come for my head because I have suggested that Aluko can bench him but that's just the reality |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:29am On Nov 19, 2016 |
TheSuperNerd: @bolded.... na people like us wey love to dey correct our lecturers and Profs... Looolllll
Memories indeed Sir.... Ahmed Musa (you're right, he was our main dangerman), Edafe Egbedi, Uche Nwofor, Emmanuel Anyanwu, Ganiu Ogungbe, etc etc..
An edition that showcased Oscar, Phillipe Coutinho, Casemiro, Lacazette, James Rodriguez, Erik Lamela, Mohammed Salah... And many more... #MemoriesIndeed  Ahmed Musa was the reason why we lost to France. Dude was missing easy sitters left, right and center. Even Sani Emmanuel came in and hit the bar to show that the french team then no make sense. Then there is something critical there too. Griezman played as a midfielder in that team. He later played as a winger for Real Sociedad and now he plays off the striker for Athletico, check that development. That's why the lad can play any position he finds himself in. If our Nigerian academies can adopt similar strategies(like training a fullback as a winger first as well as varying the positions of their young players through the season) then we will develop far better talents. Unfortunately, Amaju Pinnick and this his NFF sef |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:25am On Nov 19, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:
These sides are not possessive playing teams and will not suit John Mikel Obi's football. you are mistaking a possessive team for a team that holds up play. Mikel won't even suit a fast possessive team because he likes to hold the ball a little longer and calm things down, that's what these teams need now. West Ham for example have only their defenders and strikers on the pitch, once their midfielders get the ball the shoot it forward almost immediately. Now insert Mikel, when he gets the ball, he will slow it down, allowing his teammates to take up their proper positions before he releases a pass and they can build from their. Insert Mikel in Barcelona and he won't make it there at all, because only two persons are allowed to slow the ball down at Barca, Messi and Neymar and tasking Mikel to play a quick game won't work. West Ham would be great if you ask me |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:55am On Nov 18, 2016 |
Certitude: I think you all who are complaining about Keshi's team selection should STFU about him being tactically inept. You can't eat your cake and have it... and's what does a coach not telling players to feign injury at the slightest touch has to do with ineptitude. With all due respect sir, are you seriously typing these things? what you typed made no sense at all |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 8:28am On Nov 18, 2016 |
forgiveness: You are right about the two reasons we need a player but I insist Shehu Abdullahi is the wrong choice for those two reasons.
We have better players that can play three positions too and that is what I am talking about. please mention them. Bear in mind that they also need to be able to fuction as RBs |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 7:14am On Nov 18, 2016 |
forgiveness: I wonder how you analyse your own Football! 
Necessity is the mother of invention. This is the case of Carl Ikeme or are you not aware? 
I don't need to explain because you know.
Shehu Abdullahi case is different because we have better players playing in his position currently. How can you not understand that?
Sone Aluko plays for England second division which is even far better than Cypriot first division where Shehu Abdullahi plays. That is too low for the National team. Abeg.
Sone-aluko should continue to be the best in the Championship then he will get a call.
Currently, he is the best in the Championship and that alone will get him noticed....
Your analyses should be devoid of bias judgments.
SHEHU ABDULLAHI SHOULD FORGET THE NATIONAL TEAM JERSEY AND THEY SHOULD STOP GIVEN HIM A CALL. you are talking about necessity but you fail to understand that Shehu is just there for two reasons, first he is a utility player, in every squad you need atleast 3-4 utility players, then we also do not have any right back so he is covering for that position as well. If we get a good RB then we can consider removing him but till then, his own is still a huge necessity |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:27pm On Nov 16, 2016 |
TheSuperNerd: I doubt that very much... Mickael2 has always looked for a way to hit me because I hit "trolls" and believe me, Yara Yara has told me to watch my back with such people.
And yeah... Forgiveness is a regular... A regular troll... 
If we all want Super Eagles to RULE... LIKE REALLY RULE... Then the Dele Alli Gossip show and other gossip shows like it should never come up again on this thread....
"We" named this thread "The new Super Eagles thread and the dawn of a new era" for Nigerian football not "the dawn and then a ground for discussions of what if Alli and his likes had turned out for us and other what ifs irrelevant to our football".
Alli is doing great with England and I hope he will go on to be a legend for them.
These "Cry-baby" matters are so irritating... Yara Yara cant stand it... I cant stand it... And I wont.
This thread has a focus and that should never be frustrated no matter what. we have always agreed on most cases so I do not understand where this your accusation is coming from. All I am against is name-calling, like TheGoodJoe aptly mentioned, we are trying to promote brotherhood, don't tell me that you call your brother a troll at home, not cool man |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 8:41pm On Nov 16, 2016 |
TheSuperNerd: Actually I have...... Loollll **suspicious... Like how did he know? Lucky guess maybe... Yara Yara is leaking my files again huh?**
I have but the ethics of its application are still being discussed and also I wouldnt wanna use such on him.... He's a grown man like you've just pointed out...  i have said it before and will say it again, you guys should stop calling people trolls or haters just because of their preference or they way they talk, we are not the same you know? And every single time you keep on mentioning that one mistake he made concerning Ejaria, we all have made mistakes. In fact I remember there was this basketball argument you had with... was it Bascon? And he totally destroyed you then and yet you didn't want to admit you lost, yet nobody ever mentions that around here anymore, that's the spirit we want, not the kind of spirit that tells you to call another a troll and to repeatedly recall his mistakes |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 4:11pm On Nov 16, 2016 |
chrisooblog: my thoughts on the match. the result didn't flatter us as we played a solid tactical game against a very good team filled with talented players. we showed strength and concentration during the moments we were under pressure from the algerians and made sure we took our chances when we were on top of them.
players who stood out for me were etebo, moses, mikel, balogun and echeijile. etebo brought another side of his game that wowed me. his tireless running, aggression and level headedness really helped in winning the midfield battle against the algerians for most of the match. definitely a starter. the good thing about him is he can play a lot of positions. if we are going for a more attacking setup he can be pushed further forward but in my opinion his energy in the middle of the park is invaluable. moses finally showed what i've been expecting of him all this time. fast direct running that will always destabilize opponents forcing mistakes out of them while giving cover to his fullback. by far his best match in the green white green. to me this is victor moses at the near peak of his powers. hope moses simon was taking notes on the bench because that's the kind of wing play we want from him. mikel brought his A game. was unmovable in possession. also brought calmness and leadership especially when we were under algerian pressure. took his goal well. pity he gassed out and had to be subbed. real captain's performance. balogun was just imperious. his positioning was always spot on. strong in the tackle and decisive when it mattered most. loved how he took charge of the defence as that saw us through our tough moments. elderson too was good, chased mahrez away from his wing and joined attack as much as he could. was a perfect foil for the rampaging victor moses.
now to the above average, poor performers. iheanacho's touches sometimes let him down but he worked hard for the team. was always available as an attacking outlet. for me it's too soon to say the top 9 role he was deployed in was a failed experiment. i agree he seems to flourish more in a ss role but this was his first match for the super eagles in that role. with more games and better understanding he could pull it of. [b]onazi was more disciplined and he gave the ball away a lot less but his positioning is still a sour point with me. i remember one incident in the first half when brahimi got hold of the ball in the midfield onazi was caught out of position. before he could make up ground to catch him brahimi was already in our 18. thank God they didn't utilize that opportunity. for the algerians goal etebo chased down mahrez but onazi wasn't quick enough to offer support. by the time mahrez wriggled his way from etebo's attention onazi should have been closing him down but he allowed mahrez to easily find bentaleb who picked his spot without much hassle. onazi gave his best no question but is his best good enough? especially as we have other players now like ndidi, esiti etc who can play that role. i can understand rohr playing onazi for now because of his experience and years of partnership with mikel in the midfield but if he doesn't improve his positional marking then his place in the starting xi might be in jeopardy[/b].ndidi came in and helped restore our midfield dominance. should be a starter in my opinion. be careful ooh, the Onazi fanboys are coming for you. Seriously, if na me wey talk this one now they for kill me instantly. What happened on saturday was exactly what I have been saying since, to increase Onazi's pass efficiency, we need to include a 3rd person in the midfield who will take the ball from his feet directly so he doesn't even have to try anything fancy, I have said that a 1000 times atleast here and on saturday, Etebo was that 3rd person and Onazi's efficiency increased as you noted. Seriously even I thought that this particular strategy would help improve Onazi's game, I guess that's what the coach thought too but on the contrary, it brought out the worst, his positioning has deteriorated a lot and I mean a lot. Thank God you aptly pointed out two clear instances, I could add a few to that too, luckily we didn't pay, but luck won't save us against Germany or France or Argentina. Right now the guy is the weaklink and unlike what people think, especially Kog45 Ndidi is not an immobile DMF, just because he is tall doesn't make him slow. He is fast, agile, strong and precise and really if the coach is adopting my line of thinking(which he has shown by including the 3rd man in the middle just like I suggested earlier), then it means that he was just giving Onazi the benefit of the doubt and Onazi might have lost that chance right about now |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 7:15pm On Nov 15, 2016 |
TheSuperNerd: You misunderstand him. He said it is Nigeria who isnt running a "daycare".
Cant you just calm down and stop making it look like we dont want these lads to play for us?
Na wa! that's eh |