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Atiku is hypnotizing simpletons with lies they like.

Ask your prick nah?!

What exactly is she selling?
If you don't get it, forget it.

MRMRMR:
Someone passed with first class & u are telling me he forged his own certificate.
It takes a fool to reason like that

Poverty has taken away common sense from Nigerians. Politicians playing with our intelligence. Why on earth would he do that. Lawyers also are just cashing out of mugu as if sentiments would make the Supreme Court twist their judgement. Of on other grounds, may be. On a thing that the school registrar testified on oath? I don't think so. Moreso, the Supreme Court would is not an evidence court. Any evidence not tendered in the lower courts are not tenable at this point.

Emusan:
Not even only said "he was influenced by the church of his time" but "he was just a Bible student with his team searching the truth from the scripture and Russell was never a JW"

Yet with all this negative statement, they still believe Russell gave them 1914 accurately.

But no normal person ( I use normal for a reason) will read Russell works and conclude that the person behind it was just doing research.

Can you see dishonesty? Can one say today that Methodist Church has nothing to do with John Wesley or Apostolic Faith with Florence Crawford? There are some Bible passages these people would not wish are in the scriptures. John 1:1 is one. They can by 'New Lights ' deny God altogether.
Holy Spirit is misguiding idiots.
Same Holy Spirit that guided Isaiah, Moses, Paul? Only God knows where there own Holy Spirit came from.

This mind manipulators have replaced the brain of their followers with pap

Stupidpreneurs

Sand2022:
You don't get the point, do you? If the holy spirit reveals a truth to you, it is truth, it can't change or be extinguished by another truth from the same spirit. Common bro. Can you listen to yourself? Like seriously? Flip-flop from the holy spirit? Stop the blasphemy my dear. Your understanding is human, don't accuse the holy spirit.

I have also stated that when the apostles misunderstood a point either by Jesus or what the bible says, they don't go one blaming the holy spirit for that, it was not spirit leading them. It was there own human understanding that didn't get the point. However, whenever the spirit lead them to a truth eg concerning uncircumcised gentiles, that truth never change. It is constant. That's what we call spirit lead truth. Your leader Russell agrees with that.

Yours is not. It is pure human understanding.

They are not sincere. I have been reading their publications more than four decades. If you follow this thread, you will see that the Jehovah's Witnesses's of today are denying C.T. Russell. They said he was influenced by the church of his time. With the ' New Lights', the old lights and the bringers are discarded.

In the future, 1914 that seems to be the pillar of JWs will still be discarded by the then lazer light.
They don't have any Holy Spirit ; they are just playing kalokalo with scriptures.
They are living in delusion.

Maxymilliano:
Unfortunately, technicality will prevail over facts ...

You cannot bend the rules because of someone or some event. Supreme Court is not an evidence court. The Supreme Court would just see if the judgement of the lower courts are consistent with the Law guiding elections. There was a case like that under Buhari when a SAN was fined for filling a frivolous suit.

Atiku's lawyers understand this, they are just cashing out. Public Court is just like a herbalist calling himself a Doctor or a roadside mechanic calling himself an engineer. The lawyers go to court to learn technicalities. If you have any case with anybody, can't you explain yourself? Why would you pay a lawyer? Technicalities.

However, Atiku or whoever can start a other case on forgery. By next election, Tinubu will present the newly acquired certificate now.
Lobatan.

What is the gain?
What is the pain?

NSK4U:
The engagement ended for me at the point I read Tinubu with Awo in the same context, indeed you need to study who Awo was if you didn't grow up to knowing him.
On Tinubu making Lagos what she is and replicating same in Nigeria, let's wait for it

I knew who Awo was, saw him in a campaign in my home town, benefited in his free education programme in the 80s. I was in my first year in higher institution when he diẹd.
So ?


Yọu have refuted that Yorubaland is the birthplace of Nigerian's greats.
The parents of okonjo- Iweala Profs Iweala taught in UI. Prof. Chike Obi taught in UI, supervised Pastor Adeboye's PhD, All the business people in Nigeria have their headquarters in Lagos. About 70% of money in circulation in Nigeria is in Southwest. The cows of Fulani finds it's destination in Southwest, the beans, tomatoes, carbage, carrots, of hausas. The merchandise of igbos, the refinery of Dangote, etc. Okocha, and hosts of footballers trained and were discovered in the streets of Lagos. Philip Emagwuali schooled in Akure.
Your Nollywood community, singers, name it
So?

It baffles me when igbos say stupid things about Yoruba people. Without yorubas and Yorubaland, where is Igbo?

Ok forgive him

Stupidity of the highest order.

NSK4U:
How would I go about arguing or researching the birth place of great people in Nigeria? Of what value would that add to a sane mind?
What bothers a great mind is how the Yorubaland, a region which once prides herself with decency like other regions has fast eroded its values on the altar of nepotism, would you have supported and voted the grandfather of Tinubu's status to run your lives if the election is only among Yorubas?

Thank you so much.
Tinubu is the person I would vote for any day. Reason? He is the preferred because he is the one that extols Awolowo
' s legacy. Awolowo put Yorubas ahead in Nigeria. The Nigerian High Commission in UK was Western Region building built by Awolowo, Obafemi Awolowo University, NTA Ibadan, Western Region television station in use before France had one.The others have bastardized the Yoruba values and culture. He has laboured to make Lagos what it is today. The continuity that makes the state progressive is because of his father - figure. Other states would come and rubbish, abandoned what their predecessors did. You can only advance what your predecessors did or you are removed. The like of Obasanjo you people like is not a yoruba leader. We did not vote for him. The best regional government was run by UPN. Even, Edo and Delta, then Bendel, can testify to the progress at that time. Now charlatans have been ruling there.

Before now, yoruba didn't really believe in this national nonsense. Igbo tried to get out by war, it didn't work. Neither will war work now. Tinubu wanted to actualize what Awolowo could not. He had to stretch the hands of fellowship, as one of the remnants of Awolowo's philosophy. He could only find Buhari who touted himself as a true national leader so that he could take over from him. Buhari failed woefully plunging the nation into economic and security abyss.

The person I believe we need now is Tinubu. Today, igbos, I guess you are one of them, can now say Lagos is no man's land. Who made it so? You trade, work with government with no intimidation or lack of equity. Akabueze, became commissioner, in the present, an Igbo man is in the House of Assembly, possibly more. Profs. Kenneth Dike, Tamuno became Vice Chancellors in University of Ibadan. Today, many Igbos, other tribes are councilors in Lagos and other states in Yorubaland. I was in Ekiti, many Ebira people are councilors in where I worked last. The current chief of staff, a female professor is from other state, not married to an Ekiti man.
Sir, can anyone from Oyo State be a councilor in Anambra or Imo?

What you can't give is what you greedily asking for.
Tinubu is the man of the moment. I like Obi but I prefer Tinubu for the now. He has his flaws like any human beings unlike those of you to that perfect.
He has the backing of any reasonable Yoruba man.
He is our leader.

youngdroly:
All this rubbish you copied from wikipedia confusing yourself trying to prove a point will only get you confused not a true Muslim. Hit me up on WhatsApp if you want to know the truth 0. 8 0 6 4 5 1 6 4 9 2

Abdulazeez Àjàgbemokenferi is not a true Muslim. Something is wrong with you. I was watching his broadcasts those days with other two clowns Mashad power and one fellow like that his mosque is overgrown with weeds.

What makes a true Muslim?

Whatever truth you know let everybody also know it on Nairaland.

Toluwanise247:
This are the kind of people obident listen to ……. Those who carry wrong information.
Only God know how many life’s has been lost by fake news. Everyone want to break the news. Breaking news by me hisssss

You should have said Obi - ediots.!

Were you not in Nigeria when they said Buhari is a Jubril from Sudan? Another version, he was cloned.

What about blablu bulaba? Is the president now making incoherent statements? What now healed him after the election?
I salute the courage of Mr. President. None of those things deter him.


What surprised me, a lawyer was telling me that Tinubu had bribed CSU to cover him. They don't know that integrity in the western world of a high price.
No school, when discovered, can go free from the sword of the law.

I can only imagine how poverty has rewired people's thinking faculty in Nigeria.

firearcher:
Tragic isn't it

Yes Sir

Beremx:
My concern in all these certificate wahala is how will it affect him as president? I am sure the Supreme Court will not sack him because of his forged certificate

Supreme court does not entertain fresh evidences after the hearing from the lower courts. ( So I heard). They want to see if the judgement is consistent with the provisions of the constitution and of international standards. The judgement could be cited elsewhere in the world later.
Ṣecondly, all these media harassments is painting our country in a bad picture. Most of these are not true. What can be truer than the school sending their registral to the court for clarifications.
So much was said about blablu. He is a sick person because he underwent operation. Roosevelt ruled America for eleven years on wheel chair - longest serving American president ever.

What has now cured the blablu? Since coming to power, I have not seen anywhere the president is making incoherent statements.

In this age of IT, anything is almost possible. The certificates posted on the media, I cannot trust, I can only believe in 'those' tendered in the court if I can see them.

So much was touted about cloning of Buhari. Many took it line, hook, and sinker as if cloning is a simple process.
Poverty and corruption have made Nigerians fools. Even educated people can't reason properly anymore. Politicians are playing on our intelligence.

haekymbahdx:
Well you are right it would even be more nice if I win souls for Allah so they can be saved.. Lolz

Moreover, the main reason why I am here is I noticed there are lot of christians and atheist on nairaland christian thread but there are just few Muslims. Most Muslims are actually not interested in debating the christian yet I noticed some christians were saying some bad and ridiculous things about my religion on nairaland. Which was what made me even research more about Islam and Christianity because I am wasn't well grounded in Islam from the start and in the process I have had divine encounters as well. The more I make my research the more I am falling In love with Islam and Allah. So I quote anyone that say anything bad about Islam and since I have been here I think for me I have done great against them the christians. Someone just had to take up the challenge because some christians here have one mission tarnish image of Islam and mostly they tell lies in the process.


Infact I am not trying to understand only the Quran better but also the bible. To confirm if what christians are saying was true about what was taught in the bible. When I read bible I don't see anything trinity i still wonder till date how christians derived trinity... The more I debate with christians the more I know more about the Bible so far none had been able to make me see trinity in the Bible maybe it is because I was born a Muslim but some christians don't believe it either. I am quoting the bible because I have debated with lot of christians and I have grown to learn in the process...

Islam itself is ridiculous
From your books ( Quran, tasfir, Hadiths....), we discover that Islam is ridiculous.
For instance, how does mutt'ah or sucking of breasts by adult's breast advance Islam. What relevance to Allah and his message?

jacoik:
If you are the type of person that reads the Bible occasionally, then you should have come across some verses which questions the authenticity of Christianity as a whole.

There are some portions which are so complicated to the extent that it is difficult to understand and interpret what is written. What makes it even more contradicting is the fact that different churches have their own versions of the Bible in which some text were either added, removed or rephrased.









We all know the goal is aimed at worshipping one God but, the issue of having different versions of the bible adds to the confusion, and brings up a question like, if these books were written by the same persons. Most of these contradicting statements can be mostly found in the old testament but, most people claim the laws of the old testament are no longer considered to be very important because most of the texts happened before the coming of the saviour. Still yet we forget that the method of the payment of tithe originated from the old testament.

Without saying much, let's look at the 10 Bible verses that will make you question the authenticity of Christianity.

1. The first book on this list is Exodus 20:13 according to the Good News version which says "Do not commit murder."

On the same book, Exodus 32:27 says "And he said to them, Thus said the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbor."

2. Genesis 32:30 says "Jacob said, I have seen God face-to-face, and I am still alive; so he named the place Peniel."

But John 1:18 says “No one has ever seen God. The only Son, who is the same as God and is at the Father's side, he has made him known."

3. Ephesians 2: 8-9 says "For by such grace you have been saved through faith. This does not come from you; it is the gift of God."

James 2:24 says "You observe that a person is justified through actions and not through faith alone."

4. Romans 3:23 says "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God."

Job 1:1 says "There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was blameless and upright, and one that feared God, and turned away from evil."

5. Deuteronomy 27:22 says "Cursed is the one who lies with his sister, the daughter of his father or the daughter of his mother. And all the people shall say, Amen!’"

But according to Wikipedia, the Bible and other sources, Abraham and his sister Sarah were married and their marriage was blessed.

6. Matthew 10:34 says "Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the world. No, I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."

John 16:33 says "I have told you this so that you will have peace by being united to me. The world will make you suffer. But be brave! I have defeated the world!"

7. Proverbs 26:4 says "Don't answer a fool according to his foolishness, or you will be just like him."

Proverbs 26:5 says "Answer a fool according to his foolishness, or he will think himself to be wise."

8. Genesis 17:10 says "Here is my covenant that you are to observe, between me and you and your descendants: Every male among you is to be circumcised.”

Galatians 5:2 says "Listen! I, Paul, am telling you that if you allow yourselves to be circumcised, the Messiah will be of no benefit to you.”

You are really confused.

ibis:
hello all!

i understand fully and have been experiencing the blessings of paying my tithes, offerings, thanksgivings and vows.

as a result God has just blessed me with a new better job and i no i have to pay my "first fruits".

please anyone who fully understands the command about first fruits can u kindly explain it fully to me?

do we pay all that ist salary and is firstfruit paid with every promotion?

thanks!

You are already enjoying the benefits. You claim you understand fully. That is it nah.


The full understanding is faith. Until you practice it no understanding. Arguments are not sufficient only faith. For any christians, faith is the best teacher.


Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Hebrews 11:3

Wrong teachers will argue, faith will prove God right.
Remain blessed.

Kobojunkie:
I am afraid what you claim you have been experiencing is a lie. There is no longer such blessing from God. The blessings associated with God's Old Law ceased over 1900 yeqes ago when God condemned and cursed all of Israel(and Judah) So you are mistaken.

2. God never asked you for first fruits. Those who request it from you are scammers.

You claim you are not a Christian. Why are poke nosing into Christian doctrine and practices? What is your take?

PlsStayAlive:
You have a severe and absolute lack of humanity, empathy and manners. SMH

Why nah? I was in the north when the Boko Haram would attack churches and banks. The people would shout Allahu Akbar. Your leaders were not talking until they began to abduct emirs.

emmaatuo:
☝️ if stupidity was a person

You will be number one in their kingdom

Arafat2022:
Atiku’s win in Chicago court has further disgraced the Nigerian Judiciary. Five Nigerian Appeals Court judges dismissed the concerns surrounding Tinubu’s CSU record, but a U.S. court found it suspicious and ordered Chicago State University to release whatever they are hiding for Tinubu.

Atiku is not a U.S. citizen yet justice was served! Hopefully, this will shake up the Nigerian Supreme Court to review the appeals carefully.

Hangover from sleep of how many centuries?

Can it grow in Nigeria!

Ttalk:
Now that it has been established that Tinubu graduated from CSU, can we now move to the next propaganda?

Let me suggest one for the headless mob.

"Tinubu must provide his birth certificate because he was born the same year Lord Lugard married Florra

Tinubu is from Gambia.

His parents have tribal marks on their cheeks.
His siblings are from Wakanda.
No, he is another Melchizedek: no father, no mother. He dropped from heaven like his father Oduduwa.

No, the god arochukwu dropped him to Ihiala when he was disturbing heaven.
.

[quote author=Feintline post=126161466][/quote]Oyinbo will make that kind of mistake?
What about the pictures of his classmates?

Jestin:
This news nor concern me. Patiently waiting for Tinubu’s fake result to be released 😂

Now that the 'fake' certificate has been released?

kingbee90:
Identity theft is real.
The Bola A Tinubu might be different from the one in Aso-Rock
One is "F" while the other is "M".

I don't know why Nigerians are gullible. Last Sunday or one before, a lawyer was saying that Tinubu had bought American judiciary to cover him. They think oyinbo people are like Nigerian judiciary?
Even at the level of a 'learned' stupid people in Nigeria.
Some even believed that Buhari was cloned. An engineer was telling me (though Igbo man), emphatically that Buhari was one sudanese jibrin. I read a bit about cloning. I don't think it is an easy process. Even if it is, why would Buhari do that?
Now, he has finished his tenure and returned to Katsina with fanfare and grand welcome. His family, friends, and well wishers welcome him. He didn't go to Sudan.


Nigerians can be gullible beyond all reasonable and unreasonable doubts.

accordadoga27:
Chai!!!

Jehovah!!

Chai don't mention Jehovah in a thing like this.
They prayed to their God before killing and shout Akbar after.

Their north, their god, their problem.