₦airaland Forum

MaxInDHouse:
Wait a minute!
Are you quoting the same Jesus you said was invented?

I have heard you my guy just that people in my village don't know anything about Jews or Jewish communities but mention Jehovah's Witnesses it's like Coca Cola that's known in all the corners of the earth. Some people will instantly tell you what we believe and they will say
"they have love among themselves" John 13:34-35

Jews don't believe in your JWs or any christian denominations. They don't even believe you serve their God. To them they own God and they don't look for members outside their race.
That they not popularly known is understandable. How many Jews do you have in your village?

MaxInDHouse:
Are they living with others who have different opinions about God and religious beliefs?

Why does your organization throw memorial emblem bread and wine into dung hill despising the body and blood of the Master?


Please teach me and others. Any doctrine that cannot be taught in the open is to be taken as false.
Shey?

Chelsea to be made as practice for the champion league final.

InyinyaAgbaOku:
Is that why you guys don't maintain the buildings cos they are old ?

Ten year old zinc rusts too , so your talk of oldness no follow

Yes, I once thought about it. I believe a time is coming soon when those places will be bought or reallocated by government. It is possible now but those houses graves of people. Many of them are not modern houses. Some are sentimentally attached to them.

Whenever the government is ready whether to relocate the remains of the dead or people alive don't know them. I know somehow there's going to be a solution.

Fayose tried iin Ekiti, it caused uproar.

SOSinNigeria:
Continue deceiving yourself. Go to Egypt, South Africa, Mali or even Kano here in Nigeria, you will see houses built in the 19th century and even earlier, yet they don't look like Ibadan.

Go to UK, US, Portugal, Cambodia, India etc. You will see houses or settlements established in 16th century, non of them are an eyesore like ibadan. Anyways continue deceiving yourselves, I have never seen people as deluded as you guys.

We are saying the same thing. It is easier to demolish thatched houses in your village and replace than to do zinc.

KwuoteYourFada:
shut up! Be consoling yourself

Brown roofian

See yourself
Maybe you are a chest beater also. The developed places in Ibadan are bigger than your state capital.

When Ibadan had the first 25 - storey your state capital was a local government or less. Is it federal government that built it again?

The brown roofs is our pride. Those houses are old and many bigger than many states capitals in Nigeria. besides, they were built when the forebears of pigdiot critics were living in homesteads, caves, and thatched houses.

They are relics of a dynamic historical past. The foundation of a today's monuments like the Great institutions like University of Ibadan, Cocoa House, Mobolaji Bank - Anthony Glass House, Liberty Stadium, Television House now NTA, University Teaching Hospital etc.....


While you these building remains, there are many more modern developed and developing areas and estates in Ibadan.

As friendly as living in Ibadan can be. It still takes people of means to live in some areas.

Negroid001:
So many biblical characters are in the Quran which include Jesus, Moses, Joseph, Abraham, Mary, Isaac and a host of others.
The Quran acknowledges Jesus as God sent but not as his son, which is logical in every sense. Jesus is mentioned 33 times in the Quran, this tells how Jesus is well regarded. Any Christian that thinks they know so much will be humbled if they open the Quran.

There's a lot mistakes in the now circulated Bible which after undergoing many translations from language to language and certain books being omitted has lost it's true sense of message. The old testament was written in a now dead ancient Hebrew language.

The Quran is more accurate with the pronunciations of Biblical names than the Bible itself. Take Jesus for example, there's no letter J in the hebrew or greek language. Where did the J in Jesus name come from? See the error? Muslims call him Isa. Isa is closer to the how the name should be pronounced which is Iēsous or Yeshua.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOdUY_8KDM8

Explain this

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus was a Jew according to the faith of patriarchs like Abraham, Isaac and Jacob but the people who killed him are politically oriented so just as politics comes with works of the flesh murdering faithful people makes no difference to them as long as they're doing it for political reasons!

Hmmm

Ilamina:
And jews killed their fellow jew

Aren't we Christians meant to naturally hate jews

They killed our Jesus

No wonder Germans don't like them

This same view of yours was held by Catholics before. They killed so many Jews for killing their 'saviour'

Pope John Paul later apologized to the Jews before he died.
Germans hate the Jews for different reasons: the Jews had taken over every sector of Germany's economy and Adolf Hitler hated them just as ọmọ onílé is doing against igbos in some parts of Nigeria and South Africa today.
You are advocating the same thing now.

Jews killing Jesus is their total rejection and end of the Old Covenant. Their rejection and His death are both necessary to end one and start the other.

So, don't hate them

Rom.11.12 - Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?
Rom.11.13 - For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
Rom.11.14 - If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.
Rom.11.15 - For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?
Rom.11.17 - And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
Rom.11.18 - Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
Rom.11.20 - Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:

Rostikol:
I'm just tired of these imported religions.

My ancestors did not worship any white man as their god or ''saviour''.

SO WHY THE HELL should I be doing it JUST BECAUSE some people overpowered my ancestors with guns and bombs to seize their land, and then forced their foreign gods on us?

There is NO REASON I should be worshiping the god of the people who killed and raped my ancestors, and seized/looted their land for a century.

I beg the ancestors for forgiveness for this terrible error on my part.

No wonder we have so many problems in this land. We're worshiping the gods of the people who slaughtered our ancestors.

Speaking their language too.

Dressing like them!

Bleaching our skins to look like them!

Straightening our hair to look like theirs!

Forming accent to sound like them!

Somebody wake me up from this dystopian nightmare!

NONSENSE.

Please, anyone that can suggest a good benevolent deity from ANY ethnicity, whom one can use as his conduit to Divinity, let me know.

I'm DONE with this shit.

Thanks all.

Worship me.
Ogun is a man like me from Saki
Sango also from Oyo
Oduduwa from Ife
Ifa.
Obatala
etc

Jesus is the only one that came from above and you are tired of Him?


Here is your new God
Mightysparrow

Ẹbọra ti ounje jolloff rice, fried rice, wine .....

My daily sacrifice:
Dollar, Euro, Pound,....

My bank account altar will be sent to you soon.

MaxInDHouse:
With the above you've nailed yourself for good! Anytime you come asking me questions this is what i will remind you so never ask me any question again if truly you're sincere with yourself!


So there's nothing to discuss with me henceforth!

Na lie. I found your contributions funny. I will.


Unfinished business.

Why do you despise the body and blood of Jesus by throwing it into dung hill?

MaxInDHouse:
Simple!
Whoever is not obedient to the GB of JWs isn't worshiping our God!

Your God is different from the one I am serving. Your own God if He mine is badly presented and represented by you and your your GB.

Because your are coming from Islam you didn't understand to a wrong group, you cannot but cherish your first contact. The first is the best until you free yourself from delusion. You in your 'best' group.

MaxInDHouse:
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm why do you feel like deceiving yourself with your grey hair?

If you're so sure of what you typed here then how come you keep going back to the same JWs asking the same questions as if you've not concluded with them?

Well the greatest crime a normal human can commit on this planet is to lie to yourself, if JWs aren't it any sane individual would have forgotten them long ago but with your attitude it's obvious you just feel like lying to your own soul!

I have never asked any JW's questions here on Nairaland. You have nothing to offer. Whenever I throw any questions, it is rhetorical. I discover that many people discussing here are not knowledgeable. The last one I put on the platform nobody has given any answers.
I believe JWs are just conceited in delusion. I have your members around me. Whenever I discussed with them, I see dishonesty. The same I see with you.
You are only special in delusion.

I have read too wide for you people to deceive.
You remember you ran away when we were discussing Covenant.

Stop prizing yourself as someone special. You are not.

LordReed:
Well that's fine. But for what reason? If the god knows everything and is not harmed by it why not create beings that can also know everything and not be harmed by it? Why does the god need to institute such limits to knowledge?

The day man knows everything about God, He has lost His dread and relevance. He hides Himself from the contempt of mankind.
If we talk about God, I think the Bible has given us the reasons. I am a Christian, I can only argue from that standpoint. The Earth and humanity are dying. In fact everything is growing old. Our solar system, the universe.
Everything. I don't think there will ever be anytime death will be conquered by man. The more knowledge of sicknesses we know, the more crazy ones appear that defy the peak of knowledge.


The Bible summarizs this as a mystery. You don't reason out mystery. It is the end of road of human thinking and finding.

Even the reality of God is not known except to believe in some unreasonable assertions of faith.

For instance, Jesus was born of a woman solely, worse still a virgin. He walked on the air as staircase into heaven in the glaring gale of onlookers into sky. Where? Miracles not reproduceable. And many others not explainable by science.

When you talk about happenings in the life of man, wars, sicknesses, distress and many of these befall even believers and servants of God.

You wonder whether those preaching about Him really know Him.
We keep on searching for the reality of man, things around us, and even God.
The respite we have is the promise of afterlife. Where and when we will know more not all. No one has been there. We believe by faith.
Now, to believe in the uncertainties of science is a risk. Not to believe in the mystery of God is higher risk.

So I believe both (with my little knowledge of science) but to play safe, if there is afterlife, ( I take by faith), I take my religion seriously.

LordReed:
Now you have added something else. What is final truth?

Nothing.
Only that people mistake theory for absolute truth.
I read engineering. For some reasons I like to work on simulation. In simulation you proposed a model. Then we begin to look for experimental ways to reasonably 'comply' with the parameters. Another person will come to modify. I worked on gas laws in my first degree research. I discovered then we had more than 150 gas laws. None has come close to ideal gas law.
So is theory. As you rightly defined it.
In my PhD topic it was messier. It is also simulation on oil spill. So many models have been proposed and some crazy formulae.
We are struggling to find the best way or evidence to explain our ideas. The most celebrated theories e. g . Evolution is punctured with many holes. Einstein theory of relativity is not perfect. Theory of everything is messy .
I don't know any scientific theory or law that doesn't need a review.

I think the creator has put that in his creation for us to labour on.
Cheers brother.

Don't worry, Jagaban will turn the jagajaga to Eldorado.

LordReed:
Read my post again:





Great then certain scientific theories are truth since the available evidence can prove beyond all reasonable and unreasonable doubts.

Never! Mention one scientific theory that has final truth.

LordReed:
That is an ambiguous statement. It pretty much means anything can be truth once search and research stop. If a police man stops searching for a perpetrator does that mean he has found truth?

You only picked search.
Yes, so far the available evidence can prove beyond all reasonable and unreasonable doubts

I hate igbos with love. I only want them to know that we own our southwest and refuse to share any square inch with yanmiri.

I hope Obi/ Datti case will not go the same lane by technicalities of the law.

Let's keep watching.

LordReed:
Define truth.

The end of all search and research.

LordReed:
scientific theory, systematic ideational structure of broad scope, conceived by the human imagination, that encompasses a family of empirical (experiential) laws regarding regularities existing in objects and events, both observed and posited. A scientific theory is a structure suggested by these laws and is devised to explain them in a scientifically rational manner.

Keywords: A ideational structure, human imagination, observation, posited.
A mental instrument to explain by both experiment ( (where possible) and observation with (right apparatus, whenever available) a thing that the actual truth is not really known.
Shey?

LordReed:
LMAO! So they found a fish they thought was extinct how does that prove evolution didn't happen? The theory doesn't say that a species must go extinct so finding a species thought to be extinct in no way disproves the theory.

What is the meaning of a theory?

Kobojunkie:
My intention is not to hold brief for any person here.

The verses you quoted do not say that your Bible is the Word of God, as it instead points to Scripture being inspired(not necessarily of Truth) of God, and we know that even the words of Satan(the father of lies himself) are recorded in Scripture.

So, your submission?

Igbos are senseless people. The would soon finish all their illustrious sons and daughters.


Efulefu fifu

jaephoenix:
The little truth I have in your words just faded.
Any evidence of these claims, sir?

The only evidence I have now are the pictures of my wife during the sickness and her recent pictures. If you will, put your WhatsApp number here and I will send them to you.
Is it okay by you?

jaephoenix:
You need to provide evidence. Hope you know.
By the way, which god heals atheists?

Healing is not sourced only from hospitals. True?
Same way, sicknesses are not native of any nation nor exclusive preserve of any God to heal.
Why are not all sicknesses taken to hospitals?
Not only in Christianity people access healings. Herbalists do heal too.
Except you want to be dishonest. Are there not people who are asked to go home from hospitals that got healed by local herbalists?
Anyway, let get to zero.
My argument is : I have not seen how science has taken place or replaced God.
I use healing as an example.

jaephoenix:
We work with evidence, bro. Any serious organization does. Thats why courts, hospitals etc don't rely on hearsays or hunches but evidences. You need to provide evidence of cure

Do you believe I am alive?