jaephoenix: You need to provide evidence. Hope you know. By the way, which god heals atheists?
The blind man in the bible says I was once blind now I can see. What evidence do you want from suffering from an ailment now it is no longer there. If you don't believe that, and I am not deceiving myself. That your problem. I am testifying to the faithfulness of my God not to impress you. I So?
MaxInDHouse: Your brains can't fathom this, what i meant is setting standards and forcing it on others like politicians forming an army to force their rules on people not those agreeing among themselves if you're not OK with their rules you're free to walk away and continue living in the same neighborhood with them they will not force it on you. In reality you're the one trying to force yourself on people who have agreed to live by the same standard when you're not ready to submit to their standard yet you want them to recognize you as part of them!
LegendHero: It’s the same exact thing that happened to NCNC.
If you ask any young person today who owns NCNC, he will tell you Azikiwe and the Ibos.
But NCNC was the brainchild of Macaulay a Yoruba man. Zik hijacked it and ran it as an Igbo party.
I pity Osuntokun that’s running his mouth today, they will soon accuse him of being a Tinubu mole too and only then will he understand what is going on.
He is a stupid yoruba man. The only yoruba soldier, Victor Adebukunola Banjo, that joined Ojukwu in his struggle for Biafra was executed by Ojukwu himself. Igbos are not reliable anywhere: market place, church, workplace, political parties. Anywhere. They are intrinsically selfish and greedy.
Islam destroyed middle east. All the glories of Egypt, Persia, Babylon waned into oblivion with the rise of Islam. Today, the only response to civilization by Islamic nations is terrorism. Only one baboos Salaam has been able to share Nobel prize with two others.
gaskiyamagana: " AND (REMEMBER) WHEN ALLAH WILL SAY (ON THE DAY OF RESURRECTION) " O 'ISA (JESUS) ! ....... DID YOU SAY TO MEN : ' WORSHIP ME AND MY MOTHER AS TWO GODS BESIDES ALLAH?" . HE (JESUS) WILL SAY: " GLORIFIED ARE YOU! IT WAS NOT FOR ME TO WHAT I HAD NO RIGHT (TO SAY) ......... NEVER DID I SAY TO THEM AUGHT EXCEPT WHAT YOU (ALLAH) DID COMMAND ME TO SAY: 'WORSHIP ALLAH, MY LORD AND YOUR LORD ' , AND I WAS A WITNESS OVER THEM WHILE I DWELT AMONGST THEM .......... AND YOU ARE A WITNESS TO ALL THINGS. IF YOU PUNISH THEM, THEY ARE YOUR SLAVES, AND IF YOU FORGIVE THEM, VERILY YOU, ONLY YOU ARE ALL-MIGHTY , THE ALL-WISE" Q5 : 116 - 118. By the content and context of the above verses : 1. No quality of faith, creed and doctrine , as well, no quantity of work the Christians - dead, living or unborn - do on earth are WASTED, REJECTED AND RUBBISHED hereafter. 2. A serious Muslim must be laughing at whoever is inviting him to accept Jesus. Or, he will ask such faith - hawker(s) , " Was it the same Jesus of the above verses or corrupted one in the corrupted Bible(s) ? Over to you , Chancellor, Christian-Corrupt University for Islamic Studies (NairaLand Campus), to explain from your corrupted sources, how you are not going to suffer the fate above hereafter.
All these alone have disqualified him from being a prophet of his god Allah ( if he exists)
He mislead people in natural things. What did he come to correct? Satan was one of those that gave him part of the Quran. Witches also made him mad whilst given his recitations.
What if all his message is from Satan altogether?
Which other prophets have satanic verses or were influenced by Satan? These Hadiths clearly show that Mohammed is a fake prophet/ messager.
FreeSpirited: You dey mind them... All those baby philosophers that devil has blocked their spiritual eyesight. . Philosophy and science is the most useless and limited way of knowing God. Fooolish immortals thinking they are wise... . Science is just an infinitesimal fraction of knowledge in the grand scheme of knowing, gotten through the senses and revealed by certain low cadre angels in many cases..... . Some of this ignorant boys don't even know science has its realm in the low level of the spiritual...but they will come here to spew jargons and philosophy they don't even have idea. And believe is the ultimate knowledge.....lost souls. .. What you guys need is humility....and acceptance of the limitation of Man...that's the first step to knowledge. (Anyway, I was like that before. His eyes will open someday)
MaxInDHouse: All you need is a one on one free home Bible study with the true Christians (Jehovah's Witnesses) Malachi 3:16 There are lots of questions locked up in your heart that needed answers {Matthew 7:7-8 compare to Proverbs 2:1-5} but simply looking at the religions around you and reading stuffs in books or internet will only complicate issues.
GOOD and EVIL wouldn't have existed if all humans live by the standard God set in the beginning. Whatever you want to do make sure you get the best out of it to satisfy your curiosity but [b]never set standards for others neither force your opinion or desire on your fellowman! Genesis 2:17[/b] This is the Genesis of mankind's problems till today, as most people often feel like setting up standards and imposing it on their neighbours! Ecclesiastes 8:9
Apart from this there is nothing called GOOD or EVIL if all you're doing is within yourself without affecting others at all! Matthew 7:12
ifenes: Water baptism is an ancient practice long before Christianity that signifies rebirth. The Egyptians used the water from the nile to "purify" new born babies or a way to initiate new converts into secret cults. A way to be born into a new way of life. Christianity obviously adopted all these pagan ways of life, including " sun - day" worship of the Sun
Good comment, but you have not answered the question.
MaxInDHouse: That is Bible study you need to wait and humbly request JWs in your area to teach you.
If you feel we're wrong that's normal after all Kumuyi and his church members also despise you and your Papa that's why they will never accept anyone in your church to minister before them. So if you've found something unique with us it's now your own job to humbly request a free home Bible study with JWs just as those feeling the same way did about Jesus and his disciples in the first century but if you feel there's no need then keep what Papa taught you after all Deeperlifers also don't see your Papa as a man of God!
The only thing I found unique about JWs is delusion and that I don't need. I have been reading your publications for decades, engaged your members in discussion inviting them to my house. Yọu are all the same deluded individuals.
It's obvious your brain isn't responding to what others say when it comes to the matter of faith.
Now listen: Do you believe that Kumuyi is a man of your God? If so how come members of his church can't minister in your own church? Apart from the GB no human on this planet is a source of divine guidance to JWs so if the group you're talking about aren't following the instructions of the GB then they're not on the same page with Jehovah's Witnesses!
Do you get it clear now?
I understand you. Why wouldn't you allow or be allowed others to teach in your kingdom hall and vice versa.
Though we are in the same group. We still meet at some point. Pentecostal Fellowship of Nigeria. Why they don't invite each other is purely individual, interpersonal differences. It is not doctrinal at all. Pentecostals meet because of sameness of doctrines. Are they enemies? Not at all. Are they pursuing the same goals. Yes, in the affirmative. Must they invite themselves, not necessary. In spite of that is the work being done. The evidence is loud. Each person maintaining his lane.
1Cor.1.17 - For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
Neither preaching of the gospel nor baptism is wrong. But different emphasis.
Kumuyi believes his own syllabus is holiness and power. Oyedepo believes his own line is faith, prosperity, and healing. Olukoya believes his own is deliverance from powers of darkness. Are these scriptural. Yes.
1Cor.3.5 - Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?
Those of us following them we know what we need per time and how to benefit from each without necessarily leaving our main churches.
I don't find it difficult to enter any of these denominations or any other not popularly known so far it is pentecostal. Most pentecostals do these except for few immature ones and carnal persons like you.
1Cor.3.4 - For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal? 1Cor.3.5 - Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man? 1Cor.3.6 - I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. 1Cor.3.7 - So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase. 1Cor.3.8 - Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour. 1Cor.3.9 - For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.
MaxInDHouse: Ọmọ don't digress from the main point:
The disciples of Jesus who has been preaching zealously and industriously teaching in his name turned their backs on him because he said something that doesn't go down well with them just as some former members of JWs also left the organization for what they don't understand. If leaving the organization for what they don't understand nullifies our teaching does it also applies to the first century Jewish disciples that abandoned Jesus for the same reason? That's the point!
Okay the left for a new found truth different from your own, shey?
You have not answered my question: explain the reason you in today's end time throw the body of Christ and His blood into dung hill. The Jews abhorred it, you despise it. Explain. Yọu qoute the verse nah!
MaxInDHouse: The point is they left the faith in Jesus just as those you're talking about left the faith today!
John 6:66 The people heard that they must eat the flesh and drink the blood of Jesus. The same is being symbolized by bread and wine today. I learned you throw this emblems away into dung hill. Are you in any way better than those that forsook Jesus in John 6? On what grounds fo your organization do that. Explain?
MaxInDHouse: Nobody is disputing whatever you believe now the question is why then can't you guys minister in each other's church since you say you're of the same faith and practice the same thing?
The same I asked about JWs and GKS The early believers prayed kneeling down in the open, ( on a beach) your GB said that is wrong, so are you saying they are wrong also?
MaxInDHouse: It's simple: They preach exactly the same thing with other Christendom churches, teachings like~ Immorality of the soul and Hellfire All Good people go to heaven. Alcoholic beverages is sin. Makeups and Jewelries for women is sin. Yet they're trying to separate themselves from others when there's no difference in teachings. When it comes to prayers they pray together in public places and buses with all others yet they pretend as if they're not on the same page with others.
[b]Jehovah's Witnesses will never ever pray with you people [/b]because your teachings and ours contradicts that's a sign of disagreement and Jesus the AMEN will not be present where such occurs so we can't worship with you people!
We preach all these. We don't dance awurebe (reveling) and noisy party dance and spray money ( lasciviousness) engage in drinking alcohol. etc. I know you do all these.
We pray in public and God answers You pray in your closet and you confirm that your God doesn't answer. So, I am proud of being a pentecostal. Acts.7.59; Acts.21.5 - But when our time there was ended, we left and proceeded on our journey; and all of them with their wives and children accompanied us on our way till we were outside the city. There we knelt down on the beach and prayed. We pray everywhere and our God answers,in the bus, canoe, ship, crusades everywhere.1Tim.2.8 - I desire therefore that in every place men should pray, without anger or quarreling or resentment or doubt [in their minds], lifting up holy hands.
Our own Jehovah answers with signs and wonders. So, what special thing will your unbelief in God's response to prayers achieve that I will desire to pray with unbelievers? 2Tim.3.5 - Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
MaxInDHouse: Now it's clear you're an unrepentant evildoer!
With the doctrines of the GB millions have become zealous preachers and industrious teachers of God's word globally {Matthew 28:19-20} just as Jesus foretold {Act 1:8} they have settled all their racial disparities among themselves using the Bible {Isaiah 2:2-4} just as Jesus taught them {Matthew 18:15} your Papa and all his so called pastors have failed to do that so they're supporting politicians and sending their members to go and train as soldiers then kill your so called fellow believers in your god due to politics and racism {Revelations 6:3-4} yet you opened your mouth to call such a teaching that's yielding positive results "delusion" when God's word confirmed that's the evidence of God's Holy Spirit in action! Well Jesus Christ has foretold where people of your kind belong! Matthew 12:31-32
Nonsense, many are leaving your delusion daily. Some becoming Muslims
MaxInDHouse: This your brain, how do you manage to live up till now without your body members being dismantled by desperate religionists?
Well you ask so it's normal to answer you!
Anybody or group of persons that failed to be obedient to Christ's brothers {Hebrews 13:7,17} aren't worshiping the same God with us {Matthew 25:41-46} the same applies to all your so called pastors and GOs no matter the magic they perform {Matthew 7:2-23} we're not moved by their deceitful appearance {Matthew 7:15} since they failed to produce the fruit of the spirit! Galatians 5:22-23 compare to Matthew 7:16-18
Now you can continue with your DELUSION stuff!
I know you can deny anything. Including clear words of God for the doctrine of your GB. Any relationship between JWs and GKS?
MaxInDHouse: One of my spiritual sons on Nairaland just as you know some of them through their comments! Matthew 19:29 He doesn't like commenting but i think he has interest in you not knowing that you have no flair for faith in God's word!
Aemmyjah: What do they minister? And who is God's kingdom society? Let them go preaching from house to house like Jesus and the first century christians did
Look at Max He goes out there in the ministry like every other Witnesses do He give talks at the hall too He answers questions here on NL using the Bible and also teaches as well Sometimes, I'm overwhelmed at how he's able to even answer everyone at the same time cos 99% come to him like hyenas and that's why I stay away for sometime cos it affected me who is not even doing half and he's not paid or given any recognition for what he does VOLUNTARILY
Mention one person that show such zeal You have not taught anything, answered anything by unlocking the scriptures unless it's what you can remember from your Daddy GO It shows our love for scriptures and our desire to make it known You're just full of envy and want to reduce him to your level When you hear Redeemed, Adeboye comes to mind When you hear Deeper Life, Kumuyi comes to mind (I'm still surprised cos last time I heard was that someone else was GO) When you hear Winners, Oyedepo comes to mind When you hear Synagogue, Christ embassy, you hear of TB Joshua and Oyakhilome When you hear if Catholics, Mary, Pope, priests, nuns and others come 5o mind There's others that the GO were long dead but mentioning the names of the Church will not point to any significant activity of the Church members but only to those men cos the church operates like a private enterprise of one man who gives all the teachings and directions yet they are all united and under association like CAN, PFN, etc. They are on the same road and despite the differences, politics tends to bring them together and divide them
When you hear of Jehovah's witnesses, what comes to the mind of people? A one man society? No A group of people known for their preaching activity from door to door and they seem to have no overseer. They are simple, their conduct is unique and they have deep love for scriptural wisdom amongst other things like worldwide unity, avoiding wars and conflicts and politics that divide people
Now, which of these groups matches the true christian in Bible times? Which one represent the "few walking on the cramped road with narrow gate that leads to everlasting life?
Which one makes the name of the true God known as Jesus did (John 17:26)? Which one is hated by all sorts of people and spoken against by all the nations (Matthew 10:22)?
Which one truly have love for one another that they will rather die for than to kill or tribalistic or nationalistic interest (John 13:35, Isaiah 2:4)?
Who are actively fulfilling Jesus' assignment and prophecy to preach God's kingdom in all the nations (Matthew 24:14; 28:19,20)?
Who do not give have paid clergy (Daddy GO, PAPA) but are all equal, addressing themselves as brothers and sisters (Matthew 23:8-10)?
Who put their hope and loyalty to Jesus Christ government (John 18:36) and not some man manifestos that never manifest?
Who teach pure bible truth and live it instead of lip service or religious philosophy (Mark 7:7)?
Who do not brag about the billions Daddy GO is milking from his sheep or the sophisticated auditoriums they are competing for in size or numbers of members or how much they make each Sunday (religious business) or the kind of choirs they have or musical instruments but on the quality of their worship as a group and individually (Matthew 7: 21-23)?
Who have never (past and present) and will never have their unity threatened from wars and politics cos they are one and united (John 17:21-23)?
Who are really united in thought and beliefs (1 Corinthians 1:10) unlike others who are divided over doctrines where members openly or secretly disagree with some of the Church traditional doctrines?
Who truly believe and teachthat only God's kingdom is solution to man's problems (Matthew 6:10)?
Who encourage one another to keep enduring to the end and gain their reward unlike yeye pastor GOs who shamefully and openly declare that their reward in heaven is already guaranteed and don't seem to care about the conduct of their straying sheep or the one that can open mouth on a Sunday and say the journey to hellfire will start from his church members... Using scare tactics on them?
If it it's your own, proudly mention it and let all those in the forum hear
Christianity Etc › Re: What God Cannot Do by MightySparrow: 5:13pm On May 18, 2023
