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2smooth2shout: did he mention he's a Togolese? you are stup1d

His Togolese? I'm dead with laughter.

2smooth2shout: so your tiny brain couldn't summarize this article. shame

Show us Nigerian military experience foo.l.

NaijaPikinGidi: And you're a South African! Dumbest comment yet from another dull head South African!

You don't get it. You're a Nigerian.

NaijaPikinGidi: Weakling! You just don't know your left from your right! Fool-at-large!

You're a Nigerian.

agaugust: i have posted on this bush war so many times, and i wont repeat it again.

south african military losses in angolan bush war were very small because they did not launch any major offensive to defeat cuba, they only defended a 'frontline' and prevented cuba from entering south africa. the south african frontline vanguard has about 3,000 soldiers, but south african defense line rearguard had about 18,000 soldiers.

most of the fighting was done between cuba/angola/UNITA .

south africa was just playing the defensive role of Taribo West/Joseph Yobo

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The Offensive Begins
10 September 1987
On 10 September 21 Brigade sent 2 battalions
with 5 T-55 tanks across the river, using a mobile
bridge-layer. South African observers, watching
the crossing, were amazed at the over-confident
behaviour of the enemy, with infantrymen
standing around casually, hands in pockets,
watching the crossing. The South African
reconnaissance force consisted of 4 Ratel-90 anti-
tank armoured cars and 240 infantrymen in 30
Casspir infantry combat vehicles.
The South Africans were ordered to wait and see
what Fapla would do. When an armoured car
began to roll over the bridge, the South Africans
went into action.
An anti-tank missile destroyed the armoured car
and killed the infantrymen around it. A second
missile destroyed the giant Soviet GAZ bridge-
layer. The South Africans then concentrated on
the T-55 tanks which were beginning to move
westwards, and knocked out 3 of them within
minutes. The remaining 2 immediately retreated.
Artillery fire was called in from the South African
G-5 guns situated some distance behind the
South African lines, and by the end of the day 1
Fapla battalion had been completely destroyed,
leaving the remainder of the enemy force to
retreat back across the river in confusion.
13 September 1987
Three days later, on 13 September, Fapla sent 2
battalions of 59 Brigade with T-55 tanks across
the river in a second attempt to establish a
bridgehead. The South Africans and Unita again
attacked immediately, the Ratel-90s firing anti-
personnel shells which cut a swathe of
destruction through the massed enemy infantry.
From the Casspirs infantrymen poured machine-
gun and rifle fire into the exposed enemy. The
Angolans started to retreat, but were exposed on
open ground, with a stretch of marshland
hampering their path back to the river. Within a
short space of time over 200 Fapla soldiers lay
dead.
The SADF/Unita force started mopping up the
last groups of men left when the tanks suddenly
joined in, causing chaos and sending the lightly-
armoured Ratels and Casspirs fleeing in all
directions. Once the South Africans had found
cover in the bush, however, they began to fire
anti-tank (HEAT) shells at the tanks, which were
at a disadvantage with their long gun barrels in
the bush. The Ratels, realising they had the
advantages of speed and manoeuvrability, began
to circle round the tanks, enticing them into
chasing the armoured cars in ever-smaller cricles
until the Ratels were able to come in behind the
tanks and fire. By the end of the engagement 5
tanks had been destroyed and over 250 Fapla
soldiers killed, for the loss of 8 dead and 3
destroyed armoured cars on the SADF side.
The South Africans, after their initial shock at
encountering the tanks, had adapted their tactics
and proved that their armoured cars could cope
with tanks by a combination of fast movement
and accurate shooting, tactics reminiscent of
those used by the Boers against the British over
80 years earlier.
14 to 23 September 1987
After the first series of clashes had taken place
the South Africans were ordered not to cross the
Lomba River, but to establish a line behind it to
block the Angolan advance. The G5 heavy guns
continued to pound the Angolans mercilessly,
while the South African Air Force flew missions
over the enemy to eliminate their anti-aircraft
installations. At the same time Fapla artillery was
bombarding the South African positions with
mortars and heavy artillery.
21 Brigade continued to pile up supplies on their
side of the Lomba, but the South African
bombardments hampered them severely in their
efforts to resume their advance. South African
Recces (Special Forces, the SADF equivalent of
SAS or Green Berets) kept the enemy under
constant observation from hidden vantage points
in the bush, often no more than 50 yards from
the enemy positions. Throughout the campaign
these Recces sat for days and even weeks in their
observation posts, guiding the G5 artillery fire
onto Fapla positions. The enemy knew they were
close by, but were never able to locate them.
47 Brigade had also been slowed down in its
advance by the South African artillery and air
strikes. It was barely moving a kilometre per day,
and the South Africans were slowly drawing it into
a "killing ground" of their choice.
There was a brief interlude in the fighting when
South Africa and Angola finally agreed to
exchange prisoners - a South African Recce,
Captain Wynand du Toit, captured by Fapla in
1985, was exchanged for 170 Fapla soldiers
captured by the SADF and Unita. A couple of
Dutch arms smugglers, captured in South Africa,
were included in the trade. According to Amnesty
International sources, the 170 Faplan soldiers
were taken to the Angolan capital, Luanda, where
they were all executed by the Angolans for having
failed in their duty...
In view of this it was not surprising to the South
African troops to find that many captured Fapla
soldiers expressed an interest in joining Unita, or
asked about the possibility of enlisting in the
SADF!
47 Brigade, by now unable to retreat and
desperate to join up with the other brigades,
made an attempt to link up with 59 Brigade. The
South Africans sent their Ratels in again to attack
the enemy from the West. They had 250 men
available to attack a force of over 1000 men with
heavy weapons. The SAAF dropped fragmentation
bombs on the Fapla positions and then 61 Mech
manoeuvred behind them. The going was rough
in the bush and they ended up on the enemy's
flank instead of directly behind them. After a
sharp engagement in the bush, the Ratels
withdrew again because they simply could not
see the enemy and were drawing a lot of artillery
fire.
59 Brigade began to dig in and received
welcome supplies and reinforcements from 21
Brigade, which had now succeeded in laying a
mobile bridge over the Cunzumbia River. The
SADF, worried now that 47 Brigade would
manage to escape back across the river while 59
Brigade pushed forward against the thin South
African defence line, decided it was time to close
the trap they had been preparing.
3 October 1987 - the Decisive Battle
On 2 October the South African Recces reported
that 47 Brigade had managed to construct a
wooden road across the marshes which were
blocking their retreat to the Lomba River. Trucks,
missile carriers, armoured cars and tanks were
busy assembling at the treeline, preparing to
make an orderly retreat across the road.
The Recces watched from their vantage points in
nearby trees and called in artillery fire on Fapla
while the SADF combat groups worked furiously
to get ready and into position.
The first Fapla vehicles to try to cross were Soviet
Sam-9s. One crossed to safety but the Recces
guided artillery fire onto the second as it tried to
cross, destroying it and effectively blocking the
bridge. The Fapla troops sent a T-55 tank to try
and move it out of the way, but without success.
Every time Fapla tried to make a move the Recces
would call in highly accurate artillery salvoes. For
48 hours without sleep or rest the Recces stood
guard over Fapla's escape route, calling in artillery
fire at the slightest movement, until at last they
heard the distant rumble that announced the
arrival of the armoured cars of 61 Mechanised
Battalion.
The Ratels of 61 Mech had a variety of
armaments, from infantry carriers with 20mm
guns to the tank-busting 90mm gun. Unita
troops had by now positioned themselves to the
south-east of 47 Brigade in case they tried to
break away in that direction.
Fapla artillery began to bombard the
approaching Ratels and Migs flew overhead to
lend support and cover 47 Brigade's escape. The
Ratels went in to attack. Fapla, accustomed to
seeing Unita beat a hasty retreat whenever their
tanks appeared, tried the same tactic and sent
their tanks towards the SADF positions. To their
dismay the South Africans' reaction was the exact
opposite - they attacked. The Ratels raced for the
tanks, surrounding them and dodging back and
forth until they could get behind them and shoot
at the comparatively vulnerable rear ends of the
tanks.
Major Laurence Maree, second-in-command of 61
Mech, later told the British journalist and author,
Fred Bridgland:
"I can't tell you how much courage it takes in a
Ratel driver and gunner when a tank is charging
towards them to summon up the will to stop still
for long enough to stabilise their firing platform
and get their round off. [Unlike a T54/55 tank,
which has built-in stabilisers and can fire on the
move, a Ratel, like other armoured cars, can only
fire from a static position]. Of course, as soon as
they'd fired, off they sprinted like Turbo-charged
hares. One of our guys died that afternoon facing
down a T-55 in his Ratel. A 100mm shell from the
tank skipped up from the sandy ground and went
right through the turret. The Ratel commander,
Lieutenant Hind, was terribly wounded and he
died later. We had two others very seriously
wounded that day, and another three with light
wounds. The medics just pulled the shrapnel out
of those who were slightly hurt, cleaned up the
wounds, and they went straight back into
combat." (1)
The Fapla troops, although outgunning the South
Africans and outnumbering them 4 to 1, began to
lose their nerve and one of the battalions
suddenly made a break towards the river. They
streamed across the open grassland towards the
river in an undisciplined mob and the South
Africans brought down MRL fire and high-
explosive mortar shells on them. A second
battalion also broke and ran for the river, with the
Ratels chasing them. Approximately 100 vehicles
were now jostling to try and reach the bridge by
way of the wooden road. Recces directed artillery
fire from the G-5s onto them, causing havoc. The
area was now a wasteland of shattered trees and
burnt grass from the shells and shrapnel from
both sides.
Migs piloted by Cubans flew some 60 sorties that
day, dropping bombs and trying to strafe the
South African positions, but they were wildly
inaccurate and had little effect.
Fapla tanks made an effort to recover some of
the abandoned vehicles, but were themselves
destroyed by the pinpoint accuracy of the G-5
artillery fire. When the firing finally stopped at the
end of the day over 600 Fapla soldiers lay dead
on that stretch of open ground and 127 Fapla
vehicles stood destroyed or abandoned near the
river.
On the morning of 4 October the South Africans
were able to survey the remnants on the
battlefield. Recovery teams were sent in to
salvage whatever was still usable and the SADF
generals were delighted to hear that their troops
were able to salvage intact one of the Sam-8
missile systems, complete with missiles, radar and
logistics vehicles, the first example of this highly-
effective Soviet weapon ever to be captured by a
western country.
The remnants of 21 and 59 Brigades had joined
forces and were trying to reorganize. A few
firefights broke out as the SADF and Unita troops
moved across the battlefield to salvage
equipment. A few inexperienced Unita soldiers
almost caused havoc as they attempted to drive
off the undamaged tanks.
The South Africans intercepted messages from
Russian commanders ordering the Fapla Migs and
troops to make an all-out effort to destroy the
abandoned equipment, but by then the South
Africans had moved the Sam-8 system back
behind their positions and had it well
camouflaged. Unita later tried to claim the Sam-8
for itself with a view to passing it on to the
Americans, but South Africa, recalling the way
America had abandoned its allies in Angola,
refused and retained the missile system for its
own arms research.
October to December 1987 - The Last Phase
After the battle was over mopping up operations
continued on both sides. South African observers
watched in disgust as Fapla soldiers shot many of
their own wounded where they lay because they
were unable to evacuate them or give them
medical care. At the end of the day the South
African commander, Deon Ferreira, sent a
message to HQ that their mission had been
accomplished and that the Angolan/Cuban
advance on Mavinga had been stopped. His new
orders were to clear all remnants of the enemy
forces from the eastern side of the River Cuito and
establish positions from which they would be able
to prevent any further crossings into Unita
territory. No mention was made of capturing
Cuito Cuanavale itself. The SADF did, however,
want to be in a position from which they could
shell the airfield and neutralise the base as a
starting point for a new offensive. Cuito allowed
the Cuban Migs easy access to Unita territory and
if it was destroyed the Migs would have to move
175 kilometres to the west.
The G5 artillery groups were moved up and
commenced bombarding Cuito. The SAAF sent in
4 Mirages as a decoy and while the Migs were
being rolled out of their reinforced concrete
hangars the G-5s pounded the runway with
shells. Within a short space of time the airfield
was destroyed and the remaining Migs were
forced to move back to Menongue.
Stinger missiles were also used to good effect by
Unita and two Cuban pilots were taken prisoner
after their Mig had been shot down.
The Cuban/Faplan offensive had failed. Later the
Cubans tried to save face and boost their
demoralized troops by claiming loudly that they
had won the "Battle for Cuito Cuanavale", which
they claimed to have successfully defended
against all South African attacks!
Throughout the campaign the South Africans,
mindful of the fact that they were involved in an
undeclared war and without allies in the west,
refrained from making any public statements on
the progress of the war. This gave the Cubans
and Angolans the advantage in the propaganda
war. The SADF could not reveal that it only had a
small combat force of less than 3000 lightly-
armed troops in Angola, as this would have
revealed their weaknesses to the enemy. The
superior training and tactics of the SADF had
convinced the Cubans and Angolans that they
were facing a large, heavily-armed force.
As Chester Crocker later wrote:
"In early October the Soviet-Fapla offensive was
smashed at the Lomba River near Mavinga. It
turned into a headlong retreat over the 120 miles
back to the primary launching point at Cuito
Cuanavale. In some of the bloodiest battles of the
entire civil war, a combined force of some 8,000
Unita fighters and 4,000 SADF troops destroyed
one Fapla brigade and mauled several others out
of a total Fapla force of some 18,000 engaged in
the three-pronged offensive. Estimates of Fapla
losses ranged upward of 4,000 killed and
wounded. This offensive had been a Soviet
conception from start to finish. Senior Soviet
officers played a central role in its execution. Over
a thousand Soviet advisers were assigned to
Angola in 1987 to help with Moscow's largest
logistical effort to date in Angola: roughly $1.5
billion in military hardware was delivered that
year. Huge quantities of Soviet equipment were
destroyed or fell into Unita and SADF hands when
Fapla broke into a disorganized retreat... The
1987 military campaign represented a stunning
humiliation for the Soviet Union, its arms and its
strategy. It would take Fapla a year, or maybe
two, to recover and regroup. Moreover the
Angolan military disaster threatened to go from
bad to worse. As of mid-November, the Unita/
SADF force had destroyed the Cuito Cuanavale
airfield and pinned down thousands of Fapla's
best remaining units clinging onto the town's
defensive perimeters." (2)
The results of the campaign up to April 1988
were 4,785 killed on the Cuban/Faplan side, with
94 tanks and hundreds of combat vehicles
destroyed, against 31 South Africans killed in
action, 3 tanks destroyed (SADF tanks entered
the war after the Lomba River campaign) and 11
SADF armoured cars and troop carriers lost. A
total of 9 Migs were destroyed and only 1 SAAF
Mirage shot down.
After 13 years in Angola the Cubans had still not
achieved their aim of destroying Unita and
marching into Namibia as "liberators". They had
badly underestimated the South Africans and
discovered to their cost that they were facing
highly-trained, battle-hardened troops. If they
had taken the trouble to examine South Africa's
military history, they might perhaps have paused
for thought at the fact that the forefathers of
these troops, the Boers, had held the full might of
the British Empire at bay during the Boer War,
when 450,000 British troops took three years to
subdue a force of little more than 20,000 Boers.

agaugust: does your father have a second wife that is 'doing' you voodoo remote control ?

You're eating the humble pie. Resorting to insults,to dress your naked stupid.ity.

2smooth2shout: so your definition of a victory is inflicting only casualties without successfully subduing your enemy? you broke your enemy's arm but he went home with the trophy and you call yourself victorious?

you should perhaps just say Japan won the battle against America cos they inflicted a lot of casualties on US but still surrendered.

so this is the strategy they teach in your military institutions? you are daft.

your zulu ancestors just ran around with spears without strategies on how to make the enemy retreat or surrender and that's the same tactics being used by your military from the bush war, lesotho to CAR.

SANDF have never won any battle against any opponent. be it rebel, poachers or country

. You're highly mistaken. "
The "bull horn" formation
Most historians credit Shaka with initial
development of the famous "bull horn"
formation.[17] It was composed of three
elements:
1. The main force, the "chest," closed with the
enemy Impi and pinned it in position. The
warriors who comprised the "chest" were
senior veterans.[18]
2. The "horns," while the enemy Impi was
pinned by the "chest," would flank the Impi
from both sides and encircle it; in conjunction
with the "chest" they would then destroy the
trapped force. The warriors who comprised the
"horns" were young and fast juniors.[18]
3. The "loins," a large reserve, was placed,
seated, behind the "chest" with their backs to
the battle. The "loins" would be committed
wherever the enemy Impi threaten to break
out of the encirclement.[18]
Coordination was supplied by regimental
" izinduna" (chiefs or leaders) who used hand
signals and messengers. The scheme was
elegant in its simplicity, and well understood
by the warriors assigned to each echelon." Now counter this by showing me,any hausa,yuroba or Igbo invented battle tactic.

2smooth2shout: same old excuse.. like the same excuses you'll always have about your failure in CAR. any excuse of your failure is lesotho?

Like our Boer and Zulu ancestors,We always go to battle with less men but manage to inflict heavy losses on the enemy.

2smooth2shout: am waiting for south africans to dispute the facts about your military failures you've been bragging about. SA didn't fight the bush war alone. they had all the external supports and lost. then mike..za wants to tell me about "war" that he doesn't know the meaning.

The late Lt Gen Deon Ferreira (a colonel at the
time and SADF force commander in South East
Angola) was quoted in the Paratus (SADF
publication) of March 1989 after the Lomba Battle
as follows:
"If defeat for South Africa meant the loss of 31
men, three tanks, five armoured vehicles and
three aircraft, then we'd lost. If victory for Fapla
and the Cubans meant the loss of 4,600 men, 94
tanks, 100 armoured vehicles, 9 aircraft and
other Soviet equiptment valued at more than a
billion Rands, then they'd won." Mike..ZA is still taking you Village Nigerian boys to school.

2smooth2shout: yeah you did and failed woefully. am not a novice on SA matters bob.

In Angola in the spring of 1988 the armed forces of apartheid South Africa and the US-backed mercenaries of Jonas Savimbi were defeated by the combined force of the Cuban military, the Angolan army, and the military units of the liberation movements of South Africa and Namibia. This led directly to the independence of Namibia and then to the fall of the apartheid regime in South Africa itself. Cuba’s heroic role is the outstanding example of principled anti-imperialist internationalism in the last decades of the twentieth century.
http://monthlyreview.org/2013/04/01/the-military-defeat-of-the-south-africans-in-angola

The late Lt Gen Deon Ferreira (a colonel at the
time and SADF force commander in South East
Angola) was quoted in the Paratus (SADF
publication) of March 1989 after the Lomba Battle
as follows:
"If defeat for South Africa meant the loss of 31
men, three tanks, five armoured vehicles and
three aircraft, then we'd lost. If victory for Fapla
and the Cubans meant the loss of 4,600 men, 94
tanks, 100 armoured vehicles, 9 aircraft and
other Soviet equiptment valued at more than a
billion Rands, then they'd won."

2smooth2shout: from the way you sound, i doubt you know the meaning of war. go and learn first before talking trash

The only war Nigeria has ever fought alone was against Boko Haram,which they're begging for ceasefire now.

2smooth2shout: dumbo.. direct military intervention. not some UN blue beret honeymoon trip.

South Africa intervened when UNITA,was threatened by the Angolan advance south. Remember Nigeria has never fought any war alone,you guys always share ground with other forces.

2smooth2shout: where has SA ever brought peace to in Africa? of course you can't be in the list of peace enforcers cos your military need to learn to fight first.

SANDF had to travel to train in Brazil just to fight rebels in a mission that's not theirs alone. shame

Burundi and Lesotho. And only officers were sent to Brazil,the Battalion and its parabats backers were trained in SA. And stop talking like Nigeria has ever been in any war.

2smooth2shout: do you even have the moral justification to talk about military and strategic failures? SA is the master of failure in both

"Cleverness has been associated with long delays".

2smooth2shout: you must be crazy to say our government begged for ceasefire if you can't show proof. and about mend, dude your government took orders from us to arrest him after he fled to SA. the guy was living in SA all those years and your government didn't have the balls to hold him.

henry okah is in your jail cos we ordered you to hold him. simple

South Africa taking orders from Nigerian government? Don't be ridiculous. Is this the same Nigerian government that because of its failiers,led to the creation of Boko Haram and MEND?

NaijaPikinGidi: Except you have your head stuck in the sands you'd have realized or read Nigerians call it for Egypt! Egypt it is!! Hopefully South Africans can now get off their high horses!

Egypt doesn't have the money to fund operations. If the USA was to cut aid to Egypt,their equipment would rust like Libya's air force under Muammar. I always challenged you on the ground of: which country on the continent can fund operations and produce quality weapons. In a war situation against another country,with both countries slapped with sanctions and arms ermbago.

NaijaPikinGidi: Again Boko Haram has evaporated and MEND are socially re-integrated ... positively skilled and trained to bring development to their immediate community! Did you ever hear the word Amnesty for militants? They dropped their weapons and militant ideologies for good. SA cannot hold claim to such successes anywhere on planet earth! Deal ith it? Nigeria will dialogue ... But we will not lose a fight to maintain the peace anywhere we deem fit. We did it for you South Africans long ago!

Boko Haram evaporated? Your government begged for a ceasefire agreement. You should be thankful to South Africa that it has put to jail the MEND leader.

paniki: The question asked was simply but this thread has gone 600 pages which shows that there will never be any consensus. So in hope for some general agreement, let me ask another question: Which country has the weakest military in Africa?

Swaziland.

NaijaPikinGidi: Until the lions have their own historians, the history of the hunt will always glorify the hunter! SELEKA lions on my mind!

Boko Haram and MEND on my mind.

NaijaPikinGidi: If you cannot tell your left from you right, it would do you a lot of good to shut up your leaking proboscis! If you can't then kindly offer us your understanding of the terms -- globalisation and bilateral trade? I can't count on you and your dumb brain anyways!

Globalisation? Don't start with your unfunny jokes. China is taking resources from stupid countries like Nigeria and manufacture products which they sell back to you again. No South African road is being built by some Chinese company,but as we speak of today Chinese companies are building roads in Abuja and Lagos.

2smooth2shout: i can see how your police is saving you indeed. You are being poached everyday and your government will rather pour resources to save animals.

The SA is pouring resources in fighting crime. But your government failed you by letting the "Boko Haram cancer" spread since 2009. And yes,your government is allowing people to abuse and keep animals. We won't allow people to dance with Hyenas,Pythons and monkeys in South Africa. Mzansi Africa is the champion of Human and Animal rights in Africa.

2smooth2shout: ok why don't you answer why your government would rather send special forces both from abroad to protect rhinos while people are killed everyday in SA streets.

At least our troops are battling to save lives instead of animals..lol

The only reason for your country to deploy its troops on the streets is because there's a war going on. Cause crime is a job to be handled by the police not soldiers.

Msauza: We will use them like condoms and flush them thereafter.

"We all know" China is coming to Africa to look for some minerals to fuel their rapid growth. China has outsmart the DUMB Nigeria AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!LOL

agaugust: you people are not safe....fire in soweto

its Rhino horns they are cutting now in south africa and selling it for chinese medicine, one day it will be your D.ickz that they will be poaching and selling with the belief that it cures something in trado-medicine.

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Safe?,Let's us not talk about "being safe" please. Cause clearly you know which has bombs going out randomly and killing innocent. We also know which country has motorcycle riding militants armed with grenades and Kalashnikovs.

agaugust:
Egypt and Ethiopia, google their war histories you b.uffooon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eritrean%E2%80%93Ethiopian_War

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur_War

you southy africans are all b.uffooons beacause you write a lot of n.onsense

Egypt last went into combat against muammar Gaddafi,long time ago. I'm talking about modern warfare.

2smooth2shout: then why did you retreat from CAR. you lost all credibility after that. even M23 laugh it off and warned your troops when they heard SANDF was going to join the offensive in DRC. the deadline UN gave the rebels expired by 4pm today and no offensive yet cos SANDF are still training. is it world war z they are going to fight?

The SANDF is in DRC and ready for the fight which might even begin today.

2smooth2shout: now this is more like it

Nigeria has a lot of experience?. Is the country that hired Egyptians to fly sorties against Biafra?. Nigeria has never tested a real "armour to armour" battle. Battling rebels is way different from going against a country,which will armoured fighting vehicles,main battle tanks and fighter jets.

2smooth2shout: now this is more like it

Answer this can Nigeria fight against another well organised country or army.

2smooth2shout: i just wonder if south africans purposely chose to be ignorant or are just being silly. tell me which country in the world that is currently countering insurgency that is not using heavy military hardware.

from Russia, Yemen, turkey, India, Colombia Myanmar etc, heavy weaponry is always used to dislodge rebel camps. boko haram is not a threat to our military and it would have been a threat to our unity but they also kill a lot of muslims and northerners.

you can say a militants are winning when they start to claim territory and so far that has and will never happen

. "You can say militants are winning when they start to claim territory".We all know that Taliban is winning in Afghanistan,without claiming large "territories". So Nigeria can't really defeat BH,all your country can do now is negotiate h with BH.

NaijaPikinGidi: You continue to make stupid comments that reflect your poor level of reasoning! The Nigerian military is not in a war with rebels or whatever name you want to refer to Boko Haram. Rather we are in a needed security offensive against terrorists who have exploited Nigeria's religious diversity by unleashing mayhem on innocent citizens. The military has largely succeeded in less than 3 months to dislodged the foreign backed terrorists from Nigerian soil. Help yourself to a dose of basic education to improve your 33% brain capacity!

But Boko Haram has just killed 20 innocent civilians on monday. That military operation is failing. Your government will soon share a table with Boko Haram negotiators.

NaijaPikinGidi: Again ... I just wish you could get your head out of your stinking behind! You seem to be lost in your world of baseless fantasies! Nigeria's solid military history cannot be rewritten no matter how much you lie for your SA. Provide facts and reliable sources when you make your claims! Finish and klaar!

Are you gonna tell me about sierra Leone and Liberia? Stop being funny.

2smooth2shout: same thing i've been begging them for two weeks now. The only history they seem to have is about two conflicts they didn't win.

First was the 30 years bush war. Who fights a war for 30 years with no victory and brag's about it if not losers.

Second is CAR which they actually LOST and retreated never to go back.

i think your list is unfair cos right now kenya and Uganda are better experienced than SA.

sA should only top the list of weapons producers in Africa. Not best army

No country on the African,can claim to have more experience in modern warfare like South Africa does. And oh South Africa only stepped in if UNITA was facing a serious threat. You mentioned Uganda and Kenya,first Uganda has never fought in any major conflict. They're even getting help from the USA to locate Joseph Kony. They're like Nigeria,fighting against rebels.