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olusolaj: I know this is your favorite quote. Y[b]ou have failed to mention one of the most favorite quote by our Lord Jesus Christ which says ''for a man to make heaven he must sell all his wealth and share them among d poor[/b]''. We can together make this world a better place if not a paradise by helping people with limited means.

If you think Jesus meant you should sell everything you have and give it to the poor and follow HIM then you will make heaven,why haven't you sold all that you have and follow Christ ?
Study my friend study ur bible if you are a Christian in DEED !

GOD HELP US

Mintayo: Good morning m.k.o,good job,don't b discouraged,i am actually blessed by all your posts!
About tintings,it is only Jesus that can touch him;myself,alexis and desika(wherever that guy is now)hv explained to him n lanre several times in so many threads how Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON of God,but he won't just see it...sometimes learn to ignore his post(that what i do tho with no offence intended)!
I v been away,need to clear somethings,bt l b back fully nextweek by God's grace!
God bless.

You are blessed,may the good lord keep you and continue to bless you in Jesus name.... Amen. You will go peacefully and come back in peace in the name of Jesus.....Amen.

God help us

Pastor Kun: Rccg and other institutionalised churches are man made institutions. However some of them are focused on the Kingdom of God(which is yet to manifest on earth). Th[b]at said a good number of them like the rccg have lost focus and they are more interested in building up personal empires and acquiring wealth for themselves using the name of God.[/b]

Oh ! A good number of them have lost focus building empires and acquiring wealth for themselves in the name of God ? I thot they are expanding ! When has expanding the place of worship turned into loss of focus ?
Small churches are good and still on focus but big churches have lost focus right ?
The Roman catholic church is big any how you look at it,have they also lost focus ?

Please where do you worship on sundays and weekdays if you need to fellowship with 'fellow believer'? within a church building,outside or in ur living room ?

God help us

Frosbel is in the 'MINISTRY OF EXPOSING' the Churches !
This one na new ministry o
''A thief who has no opportunity to steal considers himself a saint'' !

God help us

All cheers goes to Frosbel ! All hail Frosbel because he is in the 'MINISTRY OF EXPOSING' CHURCHES THE ROMAN CATHOLICS INCLUSIVE !
Fellow Christians who care to listen,do not fall to the wiles of the devil ! The devil is tricky and uses all means to dissuade Christians off their faith.
Now there is a fad ongoing which is currently aimed at churches and men of God and even our own so called Christian brothers and sisters allow themselves to be used by the devil to push Christians off what they believe in.
Some are doomed and destroyed already and most of them are aware but they have crossed their hearts that since they are not going to heaven,they will also stop as many as possible from going to heaven !
What this writer by name Frosbel has put up here is nothing but a 'piece from the pit of hel'l ! This write up will not edify ur spirit but will make you doubt what you already have. No doubt there are fake pastors as Christ already told us in HIS word and if there aren't any today it will mean that Christ lied to us.But to condemn a pastor because He lives in good house,drives good cars or fly's in a jet means hatred of the highest order !
This same Frosbel prior to this time called some pastors 'wretched' who preached to him and told him that God will supply all his needs according to HIS riches in glory by Christ Jesus(Philippians 4:19) and he asked them why haven't God supplied theirs first ? why do they still trek and don't ride in luxury cars or could it be that they don't desire good things ? They were also challenged regarding the nature or condition of their foot wears(shoes don chop alignment!)
My catholic friends,don't click like,hailing the OP for he is no friend of the Catholics either !Check his write ups concerning the roman catholics and you will understand what i mean.All these is to make every one of us who profess Christ to be weary and probably become atheists and pick up a ticket straight into hell !
The only group(s) who should be happy are the muslims,pagans,atheists,agnostics and their likes ! This is so because they are looking for nothing more but the negatives concerning true Christians !Have you wondered why this post 'sharperly' made it to the front page ? It is negative news concerning Christians !
Christians open your eyes as i leave you with the below:
Mathew 25:29''‘For to everyone who has, more will be given, and he will have abundance; but from him who does not have, even what he has will be taken away. And cast the unprofitable servant into the outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’'
The truth below about false prophets :
Mathew 24:24''For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.''
So many today are working for the devil either knowingly or unknowingly !

GOD HELP US

ooshinibos: IT IS SCRIPTURAL FOR A CHRISTIAN OR PASTOR TO BE RICH , PEOPLE DONT COMPLAIN ABOUT RICH IMAMS AND MUSLIM when a christian is rich the devil panicks , I PRAY THAT ALL MY PASTORS BE ABUNDANTLY RICH MORE THEN THEIR ENEMIES

Amen !

God help us

otigba123: Whether u like it or not church is d nearest means of making fast and unquestionable wealth. is love and love means sacrifice. Wake up Nigerian youths.

How much have you given to ur local church since you started making earnings from the work/business you do ?
Or how many people have you shown love through giving ?
If we check very well and you want to be true to urself and to the world,e never reach 10,000 naira at most 15k ! But na una go criticize pass ! If it's easy to make money fast as a pastor,what is stopping you to become one and stop trying to cheat people in ur bizness or do deals in ur place of work ?
A thief who has no opportunity to steal considers himself a saint !

God help us

Isaiah 7:14''Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel''

Mathew 1:23 “Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,” which is translated, “God with us.”

Any body wey no believe this word up above that Jesus is the son of God and the OT prophesied Messiah needs to just wait for another Messiah wey virgin go born as a result of the power of the holy spirit wey go come upon her !

God help the muslims and even some wey say dem be Christians.

E be like say i go sign out of this tread becos i no suppose to dwell on this forever !

God bless us all !

okpara ugo: I believe in tithing. I never mentioned tithing in my write up.

My question is, why cant our billionaire men of God care for the poor believers in their congregation ??

Case study: T.B. Joshua...

Why did Jesus not end poverty while HE was on earth ?

''The poor shall always remain with you'' This was the exact words HE said to even HIS own disciples! The church can care for poor people which i know they do very well though without adverts. If they start to advertise it,i am very sure even you go run go there say you poor make them come help u !People will take advantage of this and God has given them wisdom to deal with the world but to be foolish with God HIMSELF !

GOD HELP US

Isaiah 7:14''Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel''

Mathew 1:23 “Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,” which is translated, “God with us.”

Any body wey no believe this word up above that Jesus is the son of God and the OT prophesied Messiah needs to just wait for another Messiah wey virgin go born as a result of the power of the holy spirit wey go come upon her !

God help the muslims and even some wey say dem be Christians.

E be like say i go sign out of this tread becos i no suppose to dwell on this forever !

God bless us all !

tintingz: In this verse jehova said to David

Psalm 2:7 "....Jehova had said onto me (David), thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.".

David was also the beggoten son of God? I know christian will cover up and said it because David(AS) was the forefather of Jesus(AS)

But did jehova had any intercourse with women?? or was Mary the wife of jehova?

Good morning titinz,how was your night ?
May it interest you to know that you are a begotten of your father BUT not the only begotten if you have other siblings !
John 3:16'“For God so loved the world,that he gave his 'only begotten Son',that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life''
The phrase only begotten can ONLY be used for Jesus ! It means only of HIS kind.It means the one and only.
Tintinz,when ever ur biological father start to use that phrase up above for you,it will mean that you are unique and very very very different from the rest of his sons ! This only begotten goes further to tell you that Jesus isn't like David,Ephraim,Israel,me MKO and other Christians who have declared for God through Christ ! Jesus is the first of all the sons of God.He is a part of God-God's word ! I am not God's word,neither is David or other Christians But Jesus is !
Just go and look into the phrase 'only begotten son' ! It means the only,one and only,a unique and infact,the exact spoken word of God that was made flesh and dwells amongst men !

God help us

alexvatt: In any given society, there are two categories of people- the wise and the fool.
(1)The wise ones always take advantage of the fools.
(2)The fools will always serve the wises.
(3)The fools will put food on the table of the wises.
(4)The pastors are smatters than the members, that is why they are enriching themself.
(5)We come to this world to play game on one and anoher.
(6)Remember. If maga no fall guyman no go chop.
(7)That is why God says: MY PEOPLE ARE PERISHING FOR THEY LACK KNOWLEDGE.

The ones you called FOOLS are the ones who will make it to heaven last last for it takes a fool to please God !
See the case of Abraham and how he intends to sacrifice his son Isaac to God !
Jesus said if you no go reason like small pikin them concerning the things of God,you no go make am into heaven !

God help us all

Pastor Olu T: But it should be noted that the church can't be run like any other institution. Christ is the head of the church, the leaders are His delegated authority n thereby accountable to Him.

The church may be an organized institution but definitely not an organization BUT an organism with Christ the head and the members(of Christ)the body !
Study the word to show thyself unto God and not unto man !
Thanks for the advice above !

God help us

All cheers goes to Frosbel ! All hail Frosbel because he is in the 'MINISTRY OF EXPOSING' CHURCHES THE ROMAN CATHOLICS INCLUSIVE !
Fellow Christians who care to listen,do not fall to the wiles of the devil ! The devil is tricky and uses all means to dissuade Christians off their faith.
Now there is a fad ongoing which is currently aimed at churches and men of God and even our own so called Christian brothers and sisters allow themselves to be used by the devil to push Christians off what they believe in.
Some are doomed and destroyed already and most of them are aware but they have crossed their hearts that since they are not going to heaven,they will also stop as many as possible from going to heaven !
What this writer by name Frosbel has put up here is nothing but a 'piece from the pit of hel'l ! This write up will not edify ur spirit but will make you doubt what you already have. No doubt there are fake pastors as Christ already told us in HIS word and if there aren't any today it will mean that Christ lied to us.But to condemn a pastor because He lives in good house,drives good cars or fly's in a jet means hatred of the highest order !
This same Frosbel prior to this time called some pastors 'wretched' who preached to him and told him that God will supply all his needs according to HIS riches in glory by Christ Jesus(Philippians 4:19) and he asked them why haven't God supplied theirs first ? why do they still trek and don't ride in luxury cars or could it be that they don't desire good things ? They were also challenged regarding the nature or condition of their foot wears(shoes don chop alignment!)
My catholic friends,don't click like,hailing the OP for he is no friend of the Catholics either !Check his write ups concerning the roman catholics and you will understand what i mean.All these is to make every one of us who profess Christ to be weary and probably become atheists and pick up a ticket straight into hell !
The only group(s) who should be happy are the muslims,pagans,atheists,agnostics and their likes ! This is so because they are looking for nothing more but the negatives concerning true Christians !Have you wondered why this post 'sharperly' made it to the front page ? It is negative news concerning Christians !
Christians open your eyes as i leave you with the below:
Mathew 25:29''‘For to everyone who has, more will be given, and he will have abundance; but from him who does not have, even what he has will be taken away. And cast the unprofitable servant into the outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’'
The truth below about false prophets :
Mathew 24:24''For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.''
So many today are working for the devil either knowingly or unknowingly !

GOD HELP US

shejane: Mindset matters a lot, u wil nt achieve anytin wen u giv aving it in mind dat uar only enriching ur pastor, so if uav dat mindset, is beta u dot give atall, keep d moni 2 ursef. Bt if u wish 2 continue wondering abt it, belv me u wil remain @same spot stil wondering abt it while d world is moving ahead of u

Fellow Christians who care to listen,do not fall to the wiles of the devil ! The devil is tricky and uses all means to dissuade Christians off their faith.
Now there is a fad ongoing which is currently aimed at churches and men of God and even our own so called Christian brothers and sisters allow themselves to be used by the devil to push Christians off what they believe in.
Some are doomed and destroyed already and most of them are aware but they have crossed their hearts that since they are not going to heaven,they will also stop as many as possible from going to heaven !
What this writer by name Frosbel has put up here is nothing but a 'piece from the pit of hel'l ! This write up will not edify ur spirit but will make you doubt what you already have. No doubt there are fake pastors as Christ already told us in HIS word and if there aren't any today it will mean that Christ lied to us.But to condemn a pastor because He lives in good house,drives good cars or fly's in a jet means hatred of the highest order !
This same Frosbel prior to this time called some pastors 'wretched' who preached to him and told him that God will supply all his needs according to HIS riches in glory by Christ Jesus(Philippians 4:19) and he asked them why haven't God supplied theirs first ? why do they still trek and don't ride in luxury cars or could it be that they don't desire good things ? They were also challenged regarding the nature or condition of their foot wears(shoes don chop alignment!)
My catholic friends,don't click like,hailing the OP for he is no friend of the Catholics either !Check his write ups concerning the roman catholics and you will understand what i mean.All these is to make every one of us who profess Christ to be weary and probably become atheists and pick up a ticket straight into hell !
The only group(s) who should be happy are the muslims,pagans,atheists,agnostics and their likes ! This is so because they are looking for nothing more but the negatives concerning true Christians !Have you wondered why this post 'sharperly' made it to the front page ? It is negative news concerning Christians !
Christians open your eyes as i leave you with the below:
Mathew 25:29''‘For to everyone who has, more will be given, and he will have abundance; but from him who does not have, even what he has will be taken away. And cast the unprofitable servant into the outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’'
The truth below about false prophets :
Mathew 24:24''For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.''
So many today are working for the devil either knowingly or unknowingly !

GOD HELP US

Samoo01: Amazing how Nigerian pastors find all justification in the Bible to milk their gullible members dry but found no reason to help the needy.

Fellow Christians who care to listen,do not fall to the wiles of the devil ! The devil is tricky and uses all means to dissuade Christians off their faith.
Now there is a fad ongoing which is currently aimed at churches and men of God and even our own so called Christian brothers and sisters allow themselves to be used by the devil to push Christians off what they believe in.
Some are doomed and destroyed already and most of them are aware but they have crossed their hearts that since they are not going to heaven,they will also stop as many as possible from going to heaven !
What this writer by name Frosbel has put up here is nothing but a 'piece from the pit of hel'l ! This write up will not edify ur spirit but will make you doubt what you already have. No doubt there are fake pastors as Christ already told us in HIS word and if there aren't any today it will mean that Christ lied to us.But to condemn a pastor because He lives in good house,drives good cars or fly's in a jet means hatred of the highest order !
This same Frosbel prior to this time called some pastors 'wretched' who preached to him and told him that God will supply all his needs according to HIS riches in glory by Christ Jesus(Philippians 4:19) and he asked them why haven't God supplied theirs first ? why do they still trek and don't ride in luxury cars or could it be that they don't desire good things ? They were also challenged regarding the nature or condition of their foot wears(shoes don chop alignment!)
My catholic friends,don't click like,hailing the OP for he is no friend of the Catholics either !Check his write ups concerning the roman catholics and you will understand what i mean.All these is to make every one of us who profess Christ to be weary and probably become atheists and pick up a ticket straight into hell !
The only group(s) who should be happy are the muslims,pagans,atheists,agnostics and their likes ! This is so because they are looking for nothing more but the negatives concerning true Christians !Have you wondered why this post 'sharperly' made it to the front page ? It is negative news concerning Christians !
Christians open your eyes as i leave you with the below:
Mathew 25:29''‘For to everyone who has, more will be given, and he will have abundance; but from him who does not have, even what he has will be taken away. And cast the unprofitable servant into the outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’'
The truth below about false prophets :
Mathew 24:24''For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.''
So many today are working for the devil either knowingly or unknowingly !

GOD HELP US

oiseworld: Many like you have come and gone. People in the ministry of crticism, the fault finders. You shall come and go.

God is bringing in the wealth of the nations and the gentiles to the church, and you can not stop him.

Fellow Christians who care to listen,do not fall to the wiles of the devil ! The devil is tricky and uses all means to dissuade Christians off their faith.
Now there is a fad ongoing which is currently aimed at churches and men of God and even our own so called Christian brothers and sisters allow themselves to be used by the devil to push Christians off what they believe in.
Some are doomed and destroyed already and most of them are aware but they have crossed their hearts that since they are not going to heaven,they will also stop as many as possible from going to heaven !
What this writer by name Frosbel has put up here is nothing but a 'piece from the pit of hel'l ! This write up will not edify ur spirit but will make you doubt what you already have. No doubt there are fake pastors as Christ already told us in HIS word and if there aren't any today it will mean that Christ lied to us.But to condemn a pastor because He lives in good house,drives good cars or fly's in a jet means hatred of the highest order !
This same Frosbel prior to this time called some pastors 'wretched' who preached to him and told him that God will supply all his needs according to HIS riches in glory by Christ Jesus(Philippians 4:19) and he asked them why haven't God supplied theirs first ? why do they still trek and don't ride in luxury cars or could it be that they don't desire good things ? They were also challenged regarding the nature or condition of their foot wears(shoes don chop alignment!)
My catholic friends,don't click like,hailing the OP for he is no friend of the Catholics either !Check his write ups concerning the roman catholics and you will understand what i mean.All these is to make every one of us who profess Christ to be weary and probably become atheists and pick up a ticket straight into hell !
The only group(s) who should be happy are the muslims,pagans,atheists,agnostics and their likes ! This is so because they are looking for nothing more but the negatives concerning true Christians !Have you wondered why this post 'sharperly' made it to the front page ? It is negative news concerning Christians !
Christians open your eyes as i leave you with the below:
Mathew 25:29''‘For to everyone who has, more will be given, and he will have abundance; but from him who does not have, even what he has will be taken away. And cast the unprofitable servant into the outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’'
The truth below about false prophets :
Mathew 24:24''For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.''
So many today are working for the devil either knowingly or unknowingly !

GOD HELP US

frosbel: You only gently correct the meek brethren or sheep , you rebuke and chastise the wolves.

Fellow Christians who care to listen,do not fall to the wiles of the devil ! The devil is tricky and uses all means to dissuade Christians off their faith.
Now there is a fad ongoing which is currently aimed at churches and men of God and even our own so called Christian brothers and sisters allow themselves to be used by the devil to push Christians off what they believe in.
Some are doomed and destroyed already and most of them are aware but they have crossed their hearts that since they are not going to heaven,they will also stop as many as possible from going to heaven !
What this writer by name Frosbel has put up here is nothing but a 'piece from the pit of hel'l ! This write up will not edify ur spirit but will make you doubt what you already have. No doubt there are fake pastors as Christ already told us in HIS word and if there aren't any today it will mean that Christ lied to us.But to condemn a pastor because He lives in good house,drives good cars or fly's in a jet means hatred of the highest order !
This same Frosbel prior to this time called some pastors 'wretched' who preached to him and told him that God will supply all his needs according to HIS riches in glory by Christ Jesus(Philippians 4:19) and he asked them why haven't God supplied theirs first ? why do they still trek and don't ride in luxury cars or could it be that they don't desire good things ? They were also challenged regarding the nature or condition of their foot wears(shoes don chop alignment!)
My catholic friends,don't click like,hailing the OP for he is no friend of the Catholics either !Check his write ups concerning the roman catholics and you will understand what i mean.All these is to make every one of us who profess Christ to be weary and probably become atheists and pick up a ticket straight into hell !
The only group(s) who should be happy are the muslims,pagans,atheists,agnostics and their likes ! This is so because they are looking for nothing more but the negatives concerning true Christians !Have you wondered why this post 'sharperly' made it to the front page ? It is negative news concerning Christians !
Christians open your eyes as i leave you with the below:
Mathew 25:29''‘For to everyone who has, more will be given, and he will have abundance; but from him who does not have, even what he has will be taken away. And cast the unprofitable servant into the outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’'
The truth below about false prophets :
Mathew 24:24''For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.''
So many today are working for the devil either knowingly or unknowingly !

GOD HELP US

Fellow Christians who care to listen,do not fall to the wiles of the devil ! The devil is tricky and uses all means to dissuade Christians off their faith.
Now there is a fad ongoing which is currently aimed at churches and men of God and even our own so called Christian brothers and sisters allow themselves to be used by the devil to push Christians off what they believe in.
Some are doomed and destroyed already and most of them are aware but they have crossed their hearts that since they are not going to heaven,they will also stop as many as possible from going to heaven !
What this writer by name Frosbel has put up here is nothing but a 'piece from the pit of hel'l ! This write up will not edify ur spirit but will make you doubt what you already have. No doubt there are fake pastors as Christ already told us in HIS word and if there aren't any today it will mean that Christ lied to us.But to condemn a pastor because He lives in good house,drives good cars or fly's in a jet means hatred of the highest order !
This same Frosbel prior to this time called some pastors 'wretched' who preached to him and told him that God will supply all his needs according to HIS riches in glory by Christ Jesus(Philippians 4:19) and he asked them why haven't God supplied theirs first ? why do they still trek and don't ride in luxury cars or could it be that they don't desire good things ? They were also challenged regarding the nature or condition of their foot wears(shoes don chop alignment!)
My catholic friends,don't click like,hailing the OP for he is no friend of the Catholics either !Check his write ups concerning the roman catholics and you will understand what i mean.All these is to make every one of us who profess Christ to be weary and probably become atheists and pick up a ticket straight into hell !
The only group(s) who should be happy are the muslims,pagans,atheists,agnostics and their likes ! This is so because they are looking for nothing more but the negatives concerning true Christians !Have you wondered why this post 'sharperly' made it to the front page ? It is negative news concerning Christians !
Christians open your eyes as i leave you with the below:
Mathew 25:29''‘For to everyone who has, more will be given, and he will have abundance; but from him who does not have, even what he has will be taken away. And cast the unprofitable servant into the outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’'
The truth below about false prophets :
Mathew 24:24''For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.''
So many today are working for the devil either knowingly or unknowingly !

GOD HELP US

RoyPCain: @m.k.o.2005;
sure you do not know anything about Jesus until he arrived as a baby.

Concerning whether we know about this Jesus before HIS birth,see below and you will be amazed if only you will be truthfull to urself:
1.Messiah would be born of a woman.Genesis 3:15
Galatians 4:4
2.Messiah would be born in Bethlehem. Micah 5:2
3.Messiah would be born of a virgin. Isaiah 7:14
4.Messiah would come from the line of Abraham. Genesis 12:3 Genesis 22:18
5.Messiah would be a descendant of Isaac.Genesis 17:19 Genesis 21:12
6.Messiah would be a descendant of Jacob.Numbers 24:17
7.Messiah would come from the tribe of Judah. Genesis 49:10
8.Messiah would be heir to King David's throne. 2 Samuel 7:12-13 Isaiah 9:7
9.Messiah's throne will be anointed and eternal.Psalm 45:6-7 Daniel 2:44
10.Messiah would be called Immanuel. Isaiah 7:14
11.Messiah would spend a season in Egypt. Hosea 11:1
12.A massacre of children would happen at Messiah's birthplace. Jeremiah 31:15 Matthew 2:16-18
13.A messenger would prepare the way for Messiah Isaiah 40:3-5
14.Messiah would be rejected by his own people. Psalm 69:8 Isaiah 53:3
15.Messiah would be a prophet. Deuteronomy 18:15
16.Messiah would be preceded by Elijah. Malachi 4:5-6
17.Messiah would be declared the Son of God. Psalm 2:7
18.Messiah would be called a Nazarene. Isaiah 11:1
19.Messiah would bring light to Galilee.Isaiah 9:1-2
20.Messiah would speak in parables. Psalm 78:2-4 Isaiah 6:9-10
21.Messiah would be sent to heal the brokenhearted. Isaiah 61:1-2
22.Messiah would be a priest after the order of Melchizedek. Psalm 110:4
23.Messiah would be called King.Psalm 2:6 Zechariah 9:9
25.Messiah would be betrayed. Psalm 41:9 Zechariah 11:12-13
26.Messiah's price money would be used to buy a potter's field. Zechariah 11:12-13
27.Messiah would be falsely accused. Psalm 35:11
28.Messiah would be silent before his accusers. Isaiah 53:7
29.Messiah would be spat upon and struck.Isaiah 50:6
30.Messiah would be hated without cause.Psalm 35:19 Psalm 69:4
31.Messiah would be crucified with criminals.Isaiah 53:12
32.Messiah would be given vinegar to drink.Psalm 69:21
33.Messiah's hands and feet would be pierced. Psalm 22:16
Zechariah 12:10 John 20:25-27
34.Messiah would be mocked and ridiculed.Psalm 22:7-8
35.Soldiers would gamble for Messiah's garments.Psalm 22:18
36.Messiah's bones would not be broken. -Exodus 12:46 Psalm 34:20
37.Messiah would be forsaken by God. -Psalm 22:1
38.Messiah would pray for his enemies. -Psalm 109:4
39.Soldiers would pierce Messiah's side.-Zechariah 12:10
40.Messiah would be buried with the rich.-Isaiah 53:9
41.Messiah would resurrect from the dead.-Psalm 16:10 Psalm 49:15
42.Messiah would ascend to heaven-Psalm 24:7-10
43.Messiah would be seated at God's right hand. -Psalm 68:18 Psalm 110:1
44.Messiah would be a sacrifice for sin. -Isaiah 53:5-12
Hmm ! This messiah self ! a lot was said about you prior your birth !
Having seen all these above how dare you roypcain say nothing was known or said about Jesus and that it was muhammed who came to qualify Jesus as the truth ! This is nothing but gibberish !

God help this guys !

RoyPCain: Jesus is not the son of God because from the bible he says he is son of man and by his disciples he is the prophet, a man approved of God with signs and wonders. or you know Jesus more than himself and his disciples? remember his mother never called him immanuel and you are not ashamed to call him so. do you know him more than his mother?

I just don't want to believe that you have not seen all the numerous posts with quotes from Jesus HIMSELF who is God,the messiah,the redeemer,the son of man,the son of God and the all in all !-Jesus is everything you can think of since it is very very obvious that muhammed started his killings for what he believed regarding the sonship and authority of Jesus. It is clear that the reason for ur quran is just to counter the authority and claims of Christ HIMSELF. Muhamed killed lots people just to counter the sonship of Jesus !
Now you said Jesus never said HE is the son of God and i say Jesus is not only the son of God but a son to man and a servant of God and man afterall a good son serves his father ! All good sons are servants to their father. Show me a son who will not serve his father and i will show you a son who is condemned & destroyed destined for hell ! Are you cleared with this one now ?
Atleast HIS disciples said the below concerning HIM(Jesus):
Mathew 16:13-16''When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say the Son of Man is?”
14 They replied, “Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”
15 “But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?”
16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”
May be na you roypcain be simon peter wey answer that question above !
Just for the purpose of clarity,let me repeat one of the numerous quotes of Jesus asserting THE TRUTH that HE is the son of God:-John 10:32- Jesus answered them, "I showed you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you stoning Me?"
See their answer below:
-John 10:33''The Jews answered him, “It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you but for blasphemy, because you, being a man, make yourself God.”
See below what Christ said to the Jewish disbelievers like you muslims today:
-John 10:36''do you say of Him, whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, 'You are blaspheming,' because I said, 'I am the Son of God '?

Hey roypcain or what do you say ur handle is,if you ever come back here with any question that has been answered before or yeye question concerning Jesus'authority,sonship and been the saviour of the world through the shedding of HIS blood on the cross,i will knock ur head and i mean this one for real-play play no dey

God help us

tintingz: Jeremiah 31:9 "I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn."

I don tire to dey answer questions on whether me and other true Christians be son,israel na son or whether Ephraim as a tribe na son !
Please see below answer wey i give the people wey start this tread and question before them go rest and never come back again before you come:

''Concerning the Israel nation and Ephraim as a tribe bein the son of God and we M.K.O,Mintayo,rexsl,Frosbel and other Christians are adopted into the sonship of God,we ahve to start with Israel as a nation.
Israel as a nation is the first son 'amongs nations'becos God chose Israel first before other nations.(Afterall God see Egypt But chose Israel)!
Then for Ephraim,the first son of God amongs the tribes in Israel !
We who were gentiles,were adopted into this sonship for accepting Christ ! Now all of us are sons but see below the case with the first son of God,the ONLY BEGOTTEN OF GOD:HE IS THE FIRST AMONGS ALL THE SONS !-Jesus
Consider, though, the significance of this revelation that Jesus Christ is the Father's "only begotten" Son. This unique phrase is used with reference to the Lord Jesus many other times, and all the five verses below contain vitally important truths concerning Christ.
These verses are as follows:
"And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth" (John 1:14).
This is the key verse of the Incarnation, assuring us that the man Jesus, who dwelt among us for a time, was also the eternal Word who was "in the beginning with God" and that He "was God" and that "all things were made by Him" (John 1:1-3). He was God the Creator manifest in the flesh.
"No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, He hath declared Him" (John 1:18).
The Father is omnipresent, and therefore invisible to mortal eyes, but as Jesus said: "He that hath seen me hath seen the Father" (John 14:9). Men have seen and heard the Father in the person of His only begotten Son. Whenever God has been seen by men, it has been through the Son who has revealed Him.
"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life" (John 3:16).
This verse, of course, is the most magnificent of all gospel verses; many would call it the greatest verse in the Bible. It assures us that, if we simply put our trust in Jesus who has become man in order to die for our sins, and then to defeat death and become our Savior, our sins will be forgiven, and we shall live forever with Him.
"He that believeth on Him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God" (John 3:18).
Other than the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, "there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved" (Acts 4:12). In view of all that our Savior has done for us, this verse gives clear warning that those who refuse or neglect to believe on the person and work of God's only begotten Son, will die in their sins, condemned forever by the Father whose Son they have spurned.
"God sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him" (I John 4:9).
You see that you lanrexlan,tbaba,mclatunji and the rest can be adopted as sons too ! It's unfortunate ur mahamad died without accepting Christ as his savior !Don't make same mistake please !
THE QURAN COPIED BOTH THE APOCRYPHAL AND MIXED IT UP WITH THE FEW CANONICAL BOOKS !

God help us

tintingz: @m.k.o ... Hehehehe I laugh Obasanjo and Jonathan dey twerk

All the names you have listed about Jesus, most of them are not even mentioned by Jesus or people called him those names in the bible

Where was Jesus called Jehova, Yaweh?? When he himself never mention them in NT bible, who called Jesus 'Emmanuel'? You most show me today today from that your bible the bible said he will be called Emmanuel but no one called him Emmanuel in the bible.

Jesus(AS) is the first born?? Hehehehe

Jeremiah 31:9 "I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn."

Thank God you said Jesus(AS) is the word of God not God himself, every prophet God sent are word from/of God you even quote a verse that Jesus(AS) is the son of man even frosbel your christian brother disagreed with you that Jesus is God

Salaam.

Balance of the piecemeal package :
See again below and after reading the below and still you don't understand,i leave you solely to the holy spirit !
-John 14:6-11''Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.

From just this one scripture,all ur questions above are settles ! Emmanuel means God with us and Jesus is God with us ! Unless you want to tell me that Isaiah 7:14 is yet to be fullfiled which means we have to wait for another virgin born!
Just to spice it up,see below word of God :
John 1:17-18''For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. 18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in the closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.

If you no believe this one,e mean say na the holy spirit alone go remove the blind wey dey ur eyes !

God help this guy please

tintingz: @m.k.o ... Hehehehe I laugh Obasanjo and Jonathan dey twerk

All the names you have listed about Jesus, most of them are not even mentioned by Jesus or people called him those names in the bible

Where was Jesus called Jehova, Yaweh?? When he himself never mention them in NT bible, who called Jesus 'Emmanuel'? You most show me today today from that your bible the bible said he will be called Emmanuel but no one called him Emmanuel in the bible.

Jesus(AS) is the first born?? Hehehehe

Jeremiah 31:9 "I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn."

Thank God you said Jesus(AS) is the word of God not God himself, every prophet God sent are word from/of God you even quote a verse that Jesus(AS) is the son of man even frosbel your christian brother disagreed with you that Jesus is God

Salaam.

See below follow up:
You are asking me if Jesus was called aEmmanuel as prophesied by the old testament prophets? Okay i will give you a little lecture so that you will not complain of a long post ! See below for urself how Jesus the Christ is Emmanuel then,today and forever :
Isaiah 7:14''Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.
From the above,we have seen that even the OT prophets testified that a virgin son will be born and HIS name will be called Emmanuel. Have u bothered to ask the meaning of the name Emmanuel? how about abram and Abraham ?
Now let's start with Abram- It means exalted father ! And Abraham means father of a multitude ! You should know what Emmanuel means before asking me that question. Incase you don't know,it means God with us !
From the above 3 names and their meanings,will it be wrong if Abraham is called today father of Multitude or the Exalted father before his name was changed ?
Emmanuel means we have God with us and the scripture to tell it strait to you and any other who does not want to perish is John 10:30''I and the Father are one."

Reverting with the conclusion !

God help us

tintingz: @m.k.o ... Hehehehe I laugh Obasanjo and Jonathan dey twerk

All the names you have listed about Jesus, most of them are not even mentioned by Jesus or people called him those names in the bible

Where was Jesus called Jehova, Yaweh?? When he himself never mention them in NT bible, who called Jesus 'Emmanuel'? You most show me today today from that your bible the bible said he will be called Emmanuel but no one called him Emmanuel in the bible.

Jesus(AS) is the first born?? Hehehehe

Jeremiah 31:9 "I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn."

Thank God you said Jesus(AS) is the word of God not God himself, every prophet God sent are word from/of God you even quote a verse that Jesus(AS) is the son of man even frosbel your christian brother disagreed with you that Jesus is God

Salaam.

For piecemeal sake,see below:
A man is as good as HIS word ! See below scripture if you will believe:
John 1:1-18''In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and t[b]he Word[/b] was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning.[/b] 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
6 There was a man sent from God whose name was John. 7 He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all might believe. 8 He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light.
9 The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. 11 He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. 12 Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— 13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.
14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
15 (John testified concerning him. He cried out, saying, “This is the one I spoke about when I said, ‘He who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’”) 16 Out of his fullness we have all received grace in place of grace already given. 17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. 18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known. I think the above answers all the stuffs you put up there saving for the name Emmanuel !

Reverting with the rejoinder !

God help us

tintingz: @m.k.o ... Hehehehe I laugh Obasanjo and Jonathan dey twerk

All the names you have listed about Jesus, most of them are not even mentioned by Jesus or people called him those names in the bible

Where was Jesus called Jehova, Yaweh?? When he himself never mention them in NT bible, who called Jesus 'Emmanuel'? You most show me today today from that your bible the bible said he will be called Emmanuel but no one called him Emmanuel in the bible.

Jesus(AS) is the first born?? Hehehehe

Jeremiah 31:9 "I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn."

Thank God you said Jesus(AS) is the word of God not God himself, every prophet God sent are word from/of God you even [/b]quote a verse that Jesus(AS) is the son of man even [b]frosbel your christian brother disagreed with you that Jesus is God

Salaam.

A man is as good as HIS word ! See below scripture if you will believe:
John 1:1-18''In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and t[b]he Word[/b] was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning.[/b] 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
6 There was a man sent from God whose name was John. 7 He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all might believe. 8 He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light.
9 The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. 11 He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. 12 Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— 13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.
14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
15 (John testified concerning him. He cried out, saying, “This is the one I spoke about when I said, ‘He who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’”) 16 Out of his fullness we have all received grace in place of grace already given. 17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. 18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known. I think the above answers all the stuffs you put up there saving for the name Emmanuel !
You are asking me if Jesus was called aEmmanuel as prophesied by the old testament prophets? Okay i will give you a little lecture so that you will not complain of a long post ! See below for urself how Jesus the Christ is Emmanuel then,today and forever :
Isaiah 7:14''Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.
From the above,we have seen that even the OT prophets testified that a virgin son will be born and HIS name will be called Emmanuel. Have u bothered to ask the meaning of the name Emmanuel? how about abram and Abraham ?
Now let's start with Abram- It means exalted father ! And Abraham means father of a multitude ! You should know what Emmanuel means before asking me that question. Incase you don't know,it means God with us !
From the above 3 names and their meanings,will it be wrong if Abraham is called today father of Multitude or the Exalted father before his name was changed ?
Emmanuel means we have God with us and the scripture to tell it strait to you and any other who does not want to perish is John 10:30''I and the Father are one."
See again below and after reading the below and still you don't understand,i leave you solely to the holy spirit !
-John 14:6-11''Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.

From just this one scripture,all ur questions above are settles ! Emmanuel means God with us and Jesus is God with us ! Unless you want to tell me that Isaiah 7:14 is yet to be fullfiled which means we have to wait for another virgin born!
Just to spice it up,see below word of God :
John 1:17-18''For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. 18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in the closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.

If you no believe this one,e mean say na the holy spirit alone go remove the blind wey dey ur eyes !

God help this guy please

Judas2013: Certainly from gullible men to clever men.

You may be right ! Anyone who is in God's bizness is sure clever no matter how you view it ! And if You think there is making of too much money in the name of God,stop those petty deals you do in ur office or bizness place let's see what will become of you in the kingdom bizness !

God help us

eddiebruk: see why you need to do something else with your time, so you want an e-war to justify your claims, how pathetic of you.

E-war will mean brain storming to me ! Searching and been shown the scriptures ! It depends on what it means to you ! God's work will continue to move forward !

God help us

Judas2013: Kingdom of God built with human hard earned money

You expect God to throw money from heaven for church projects ?

No,HE doesn't do that ! He gave us the ability to make wealth (real cash inclusive) ! And this can be used for the kingdom work

God help us

Pastor Kun: Your ignorance + shallowness is really pathetic, you insult the Kingdom of God by equating it to man made institutions.

Please,which is the kingdom of God and which is the man made institutions ?

God help me

Emusan: MKO has done enough justice for making all his statement from Bible unlike FROSBEL doing copy and paste.

all the fact above is it true or false?

Emusan,make we for no derail this trad abeg i know say tbaba234 dey for corner,na him i dey wait for to lead am completely to Chrsit.Me you and frosbel go meet for the other side and we go learn more from ourselves !

God help us

frosbel: ^^^^^


Jesus is definitely not GOD.

Jesus is the spoken word of God. All the powers HE had and still has were given to HIM by HIS father and always HE recognized that fact and always give glory to HIS father !
Frosbel, don't worry make our own for no lost,for the other tread,i go learn more from you. Thanks mate !

God help us