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[quote author=Onye oma][/quote]People never understood how solomon could amass all the wealth he was blessed with ! They saw everything as extravagance and just too much for one man! But he fell wen he left God out of it !No wealth can ever be too much wen God is with you ! If you leave out God in your riches or poverty,you will most definitely fall ! If not in this life,in the great beyond !
God bless us

omotola1: I have to un-follow this thread cos it‘s not acheiving it‘s aim!
The spirit of mammon has eaten deep into the life of critics of WINNERS.
They condemn every Biblical principles of sowing/giving. Obviously, they can never prosper in their miserable lives.
Atimes, I wonder if it thesame Bible we use. The critics won‘t study their Bible well in order to draw facts, they won‘t attend Church services for their lives to be transformed. All they know how to do is to use their miserable existence to criticise! What‘s your pathetic business if we are brain washed?
Pls use your empty lives for something worthwhile and meaningful. I wonder why the mods allow direct attacks on the personality of MEN OF GOD.
What‘s the point allowing jobless derailers spoil everything?
You just sit down as a figure head and watch people derail and attack MEN OF GOD sheh?
GOD dey o...
BYE!

The devil is happy and Seun is making his money !
God go change us all one day !
All the time,all what they acusse these men of God for are all in the bible. But they no longer want it the bible way but the man way ! They accuse the Roman catholics that they contradict and practice things outside the bible most times but still the Roman church did not change ! How much more of the churches that practice bible principle ? Nothing will change becos it is the word of God ! Changing will be like changing the word of God.
God bless us

ehie: St..pid...so you are happy to be a leech.lazy individual


He amassed so much wealth by working hard,and he is saving lives pratically



lies from the pit of hell,selling the gullible illusion of miracles,no wonder christians turn from christainity because they become bitter when these so called miracles do not happen to them,so every christian who believes in daddy oyedepo will have bosses who will dash them 500k


you have said what u wanted to say,you are a leech...

I dnt attend Oyedepo's church and i can't judge him more so becos i'm yet to see a single contradiction of the word of God by his teachings !
If you think it's a lie,so be it. Those who understand will see reasons to glorify God. Christ said if you ask and you dnt receive,keep asking and dnt be weary for u will surely receive ! I dnt get tired of asking from God. Even if i dnt receive immediately,i take solace in the ones he has done in the past for others and me ! You said am stupid becos i decided to be a frined of God ? God bless you and i will forever be what God says i am and not what you call me. How are my a leech AND LAZY being? I just told about my office,boss and my work !
It is well bro !
God bless us

ehie: why on earth would Bill Gates sow a seed to Oyedepo,maybe Gates gives to charity,so in essence Daddy begged Gates and Gates gave him some change eh?
lies lies all the time and u call ur selves christains

Children of the most High who understand how these things work can not beg !How can you beg for what belong to you ? The gentiles will even bring it to you not knowing that they are fulfilling scripture. No wonder a very wealthy man who may not be in need of wealth becos he has amassed so much will walk up to a son of God and said ;'i just feel something inside of me telling me to give you this or do this and that good for you and the son of God just says;o.k,do as your heart or that something tells you !'It once happened to me and still is. My boss called me up one day and said that something in him just tells him to help me financially ! I said but i dnt need any help. And he said he knows but if i do,i shouldn't hesitate to ask him. He saw a car one day and ask me if i want it ?i said i'm not in need of a car yet but he said why ? I laughed. But behold,my first car was bought by my boss with an additional 150k to use for fuel and any other maintenance ! Still on what God can do for a son who believes,he (my boss) gave me 500k to support my wedding. I'm not saying all these becos i want to brag or say what isn't but becos it's a testimony. That and many many more i can't start to put up here are all part of what God can do for his son. I know there are pple here who have some other bigger bigger testimonies of what God or the devil has done in their lives as sons and daughters of God or devil but this is part of what i know God can do for a son ! So children of God dnt beg for bread ! If you are a child of God and you still beg for bread,it does not mean that you won't make heaven if you are in God's good book but it sure means that you on ur own limited urself.
God bless us

christemmbassey: it may be free world to others but not for christians "And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again 2Cor 5-15, nobody is advocating poverty here but nigerians are not intrested in Christ but in cars, prvate jets, husaand/children etc. Bible says "GOD has given to us all things that pertain to life and godliness....2peter 1:3. Blessings

While i wait for the KINGDOM of GOD to be made manifest, am i suppose to do so in PENURY & ILL HEALTH ? Certainly NO ! But if my wealth or good health will deny me or rob me off my SALVATION,then may i wait like LAZARUS the poor beggar !
if we gain the whole world and not make heaven,it is pointless ! That if we become very rich like Solomon or have the best of health like the one restored back to Job and finally we are not in good terms with God or in HIS good book,then it is useless ! That is exactly what Christ is saying.'Why will you go to acquire the whole earth AND forsake God & heavenly things,of what benefit will it be on the long run ? See below parable of the rich fool ! He amassed so much wealth leaving God out !
Luke 12:16-21

16 And he told them this parable: “The ground of a certain rich man yielded an abundant harvest. 17 He thought to himself, ‘What shall I do? I have no place to store my crops.’

18 “Then he said, ‘This is what I’ll do. I will tear down my barns and build bigger ones, and there I will store my surplus grain. 19 And I’ll say to myself, “You have plenty of grain laid up for many years. Take life easy; eat, drink and be merry.”’

20 “But God said to him, ‘You fool! This very night your life will be demanded from you. Then who will get what you have prepared for yourself?’

21 “This is how it will be with whoever stores up things for themselves [b]but is not rich toward God.”[/b]
Christ was never against wealth at anytime but against wealth without HIM ! Wealth without christ will ultimately amount to greed,hatred and other vices that negates the word of God. Christ has given us everything that is Good. Like you quoted 2nd Peter 1:13- He has given us everything that pertains to LIFE and GODLINESS. If i choose to enjoy these good things of life as provided by God and still live my life outside God,it's left for me but i should know that that will be tantamount to making hell ! I can as well be poor and live outside God which is not different with the former.
God bless us

christemmbassey: it may be free world to others but not for christians "And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again 2Cor 5-15, nobody is advocating poverty here but nigerians are not intrested in Christ but in cars, prvate jets, husaand/children etc. Bible says "GOD has given to us all things that pertain to life and godliness....2peter 1:3. Blessings

While i wait for the KINGDOM of GOD to be made manifest, am i suppose to do so in PENURY & ILL HEALTH ? Certainly NO ! But if my wealth or good health will deny me or rob me off my SALVATION,then may i wait like LAZARUS the poor beggar !
if we gain the whole world and not make heaven,it is pointless ! That if we become very rich like Solomon or have the best of health like the one restored back to Job and finally we are not in good terms with God or in HIS good book,then it is useless ! That is exactly what Christ is saying.'Why will you go to acquire the whole earth AND forsake God & heavenly things,of what benefit will it be on the long run ? See below parable of the rich fool ! He amassed so much wealth leaving God out !
Luke 12:16-21

16 And he told them this parable: “The ground of a certain rich man yielded an abundant harvest. 17 He thought to himself, ‘What shall I do? I have no place to store my crops.’

18 “Then he said, ‘This is what I’ll do. I will tear down my barns and build bigger ones, and there I will store my surplus grain. 19 And I’ll say to myself, “You have plenty of grain laid up for many years. Take life easy; eat, drink and be merry.”’

20 “But God said to him, ‘You fool! This very night your life will be demanded from you. Then who will get what you have prepared for yourself?’

21 “This is how it will be with whoever stores up things for themselves [b]but is not rich toward God.”[/b]
Christ was never against wealth at anytime but against wealth without HIM ! Wealth without christ that will ultimately amount to greed,hatred and other vices that negates the word of God. Christ has given us everything that is Good. Like you quoted 2nd Peter 1:13- He has given us everything that pertains to LIFE and GODLINESS. If i choose to enjoy these good things of life as provided by God and still live my life outside God,it's left for me but i should know that that will be tantamount to making hell ! I can as well be poor and live outside God which is not different with the former.
God bless us

stagger: There was a time Jesus had to make a whip to drive out the money-changers in church to fulfill the scripture that said: "the zeal of the Lord has consumed me.."

I will tell you a story. In my school, a girl went to visit her relation, a Christian in the hostel. The guy had travelled. One of the guys in that room, pretended to go and look for the guy in question, and instead came back with two of his confra family members. It was the girls screams as they attempted to rape her that brought our attention.

You see that Aluu beating that killed those 4 boys? We meted it out to those guys that day. As a Christian, I would ask you:

If that girl was your sister or your girlfriend, being actively r.aped and violated, what would be your "subtle, polite and Godly" manner of handling that situation at that time?

To start with the case of Jesus,He is the lord and human at the same time !He does not change but changes things ! The synagogue or church was and still is HIS own.He decides what he does with it and no man can ask why.If Jesus used the whip on the people in HIS OWN house the church,who are we to use whip on the people like jesus did ?Is the church for man,Oyedepo or you ?If you whip ur children/wards or church members if they air as a pastor,to some extent we will understand that becos they are ur children in the lord and the bible says ,spare the rod and spoil the child! But here on NL most of them are either muslims,'ignorant christians'(Dnt mean any harm pls),baby christians,pagans,idol worshippers,atheist who we are trying to draw close to God. How do you expect them to accept u trying to use the whip on them ?
As for the girl who was raped,if she was to be my sister,i will try to stop the rapists from doing that to her.If i can't,i will report them to the authorities. If the harm has been done already,what do you expect me to do that will reverse what has been done ? God help us so we don't run into troubles and even if trouble comes,God will always show us an escape route. HE SAID HE WON'T ALLOW ANY TEMPTATION THAT WE CAN'T OVERCOME COME TO US.
God bless us

Kay 17: The Church has always had incredible power and wealth, however Oyedepo displays bad leadership, by feeding and profiting from a charity.

Below is the exact words of Apostle Paul:

''If we have sown spiritual things among you, is it too much if we reap material things from you?''-1 Corinthians 9:11

But we shouldn't be exploited as a result of that statement.Even if we are bin xploited by these men,let God be the judge and do the fighting cos we can't fight for God or fight HIS fight. After all we always claim that it is God we give to. So once you give,it is no longer your money but that of God ! But learn to sow on a fertile ground !

''In the same way, the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should receive their living from the gospel.''-1 Corinthians 9:14
These men of God also receive gifts from believers and un-believers alike just like the children of God(Israelites) received so much gifts from the Egyptians. The word of God said that the wealth of the gentiles will be given to the children of God ! So,if you are not born again and you give to church,pastors, beggars,motherless babies homes, destitute and the likes,You give in vain ! But still give becos you are fulfilling scripture and there are so much work to be done in the house of God !
God bless us

stagger: You don't know me. So your opinion or whatever you have formed of me does not matter to me. I like every human being know where I have problems in my character and I do not deny them and every day I ask God to smooth out the rough edges. But if anyone attacks my beliefs and that of the ministry where I have decided to build my spiritual base, it is my responsibility to defend it.

I'm sory stagger but you should know that the ministry is of the lord and not of You !If you want to defend,do it politely,subtly and in a Godly manner as Christians do !Becos if you continue this way,you may end up destroying that which you intend to protect ! Jesus loves them,loves you and loves me as well but frowns at some of those ill character of ours ! Don't worry,God will help you in the area where you are weak as HE is currently doing form me at the moment. Just pray as i also join you in prayers !
God bless us

teetee123: Mr Stagger, there is no difference between you and your opposing side. Your statements are not of a genuine winner. You are tarnishing the image of the ministry you are trying to defend with the use of unfriendly and vulgar words.
Your statements shows a proud person yet to be broken. If u are indeed a winner, u represent badly.
Are u really following Shiloh? If u have been following what of the warning to stay focused. Did you listen to Mrs. Oyedepo message yesterday. Where are the fruits of the spirit. Please answer with maturity or just ignore the comments. Oyedepo is the most abused pastor around here but u never see him replying anybody. A word is enough for a wise.

wHEN YOU SEE CHRISTAINS YOU WILL KNOW THEM ! my brother,you are one. My prayer for you is dat God will continue to guard you and continually keep you withing the hedge for the serpent not to have his way into ur life. I pray for the grace of God on ur life and my life for us not to miss out on the last days ! True christianity is all encompassing but does not accept any kind or form of filthiness !For the fact that i go to church or worship with a particular denomination does not make me a christian. Remain blessed my brother or sister !
God bless us

christemmbassey: WHAT SHALL IT PROFIT A MAN IF HE GAIN THE WHOLE WORLD AND LOOSE HIS SOUL ?Mat 16:26. "LOVE NOT THE WORLD NOR THE THINGS THAT ARE IN THE WORLD, IF ANY MAN LOVE THE WORLD, THE LOVE OF THE FATHER IS NOT IN HIM"......,read 1john2:15-17. God bless.

You are correct my brother and christ come finish talk by telling us say ; SEEK YE FIRST THE KINGDOM OF GOD AND IT'S RIGHTEOUSNESS AND ALL OTHER THINGS SHALL BE ADDED UNTO YOU ! What is this all other things ? I just know that if we sincerely follow the teachings of God to seek his kingdom and it's righteousness,ALL other things we will receive ! I think Christ is talking about all other good things of life ! He can't be talking about poverty,death and ill health ! But if any one want's to live for the later,i think it's a free world. If we love money,i think we will be heading to hell. But how do i know i love money ? Foe me it's wen i leave the time i'm suppose to go for evening fellowship with the brethren becos i am waiting for one customer who wan'ts to buy goods from me and for that reason,i did not go to fellowship with other brethren in the name of Christ ! When ever you leave the work of christ for money,u are in love with money. If you,at anytime water the word of God becos of money,you are in love of Money and u worship money ! It should be God first in my life ! But why i will not throw stones at these men of God as some of us do here today is that i dnt really know if they love or worship money ! Even if i know,i will pray for them and if i can talk to them,i will and not call them all sorts of names as we do here on NL !
God bless us

cyril83: did I hear you say ignorant?...anyway I forgive you for that but as per the holy spirit broda holy spirit is far far frm nigeria,holy spirit doesn't stay where innocent blood is being shed every blessed day in conclusion nobody is holy in naija but we jst wan go heaven,how possible is dat?

You know say na God know every ! Man fit fake us but him no fit fake God. I still belive say some holy people still dey and that one no mean say them dey perfect. Even for Sodom and Gomorrah God still some one wey HIM save with his family. We all need his grace no be by our works though !
God bless us

[quote author=Ebube_Gid]If I did'nt get anything yesterday, I will forever remember the testimony of that 'teacher turned landlord' and the words of my Papa MY GOD IS NOT A ROBBER,...YOUR GIVING TO GOD DOES NOT MAKE GREATER, YOU NEED GOD TO BE GREAT. It nearly brought tears to my eyes too. I just thank God for delivering me from unbelief especially from some bad comments i read here on nairaland which nearly twisted my heart, Kai!. I SAY LOUDLY THANK YOU JESUS. Please for the sake of the unbelieving people here please don't just accept what you are reading here on nairaland DON'T. Just go there and see and hear for yourselves. People die of sickness even in good hospitals with good medication but yesterday many people were healed of different kinds of sicknesses instantly without paying money but only by believing. I saw wonders Infact I don't know what to say more again but i pray and know that i will surely get my own miracle before this event is over. Surely 'JEHOVAH GOD IS GREATER THAN ALL OTHER gods'. and to the guy who started this thread God bless you dear.[/quote]Let us all continue to support and promote all biblical doctrines and we will see that it shall be well with us !
God bless us

[quote author=High_Chief]Brainwashed Nigerians, see them saying they paid money(abi na vow) in shiloh last year and they got married and received their blessings. What about some people that paid money too(even higher amount) in same last shiloh and lost their lives this year and some met with bad misfortunes, so what happened to the money they paid Oyedepo? People will never use their brain for once. I have said so many times, Nigerians do not love God, they only go to church cos of what they will gain from Him(material things most times) ala DOUBLE PORTION and these pastors know this hence they use it as a bait to get these re.tards giving more, they never go to church to worship in true love and spirit. Meanwhile, how come the richest Nigerian is someone that never paid tithe, that is Dangote. Brainwashed people will never know that they need to work hard and use their brain instead of seeking short-cuts to success by paying these pastors. More private jets on the way!!![/quote]Those people own time they come ! God know how HIM they do him thing. Christ said that if you ask and does not receive that you should continue to ask and do not be weary or tired of asking for you will surely receive !
God bless us

greenlilly: Shiloh folks pls don't forget to pray for Nigeria.Ask God to visit corrupt Jona and his cohorts with his WRATH from above so that Nigeria could be liberated and enjoy dividend of democracy for oncw

God does not visit people that way ! If you say Jona is a sinner,is he the only one ? Dnt worry,God will change things in HIS own time ! God bless Nigeria
God bless us

taigee: Awesome Shiloh this year.
To all haters, all your words of hatred cannot change what God has done and will still do. Winners Chapel has always been spoken against from inception more than thirty years ago; but the church has kept growing, to all of you this word is for you:
Act 9:4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?
Act 9:5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.
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Why continue a futile exercise?
Keep hating and let God keep promoting us. After all "If God be for us .............." Some one should help me finish the statement.
Have a Glorious Shiloh, Going for the specialized classes...

No one can be against us ! But let us take things easy with our fellows. There are people who are ignorant that does not mean that God hates them but with time,the holy spirit will do the needful Christ said that a day cometh that all his sheeps will be reconciled back to HIM !
God bless us

unclenna: Shiloh is at the corner again. Expect a miracle.
Date: Tuesday 4th December - Saturday 8th December, 2012
Today, 4th december marks the beginning of Shiloh 2012. Hope you have written all your expectations.... Remember, the expectations of the Righteous shall not be cut off. Get yourself ready......
Morning section: 7am
Evening section: 7pm
Share your expectations, and testimonies here.
Be bless.

Shiloh Day 2 was awesome.
Highlights of day 2:
TOIP: UNVEILING THE BLESSEDNESS OF TRANSFERENCE OF SPIRIT PART 2 (CONTINUED)

SPIRIT OF SERVANT-HOOD
Highlights
1. The spirit of servant-hood is the platform of empowerment.
2. The spirit of servant-hood is the gateway to leadership.
3. Their will be no proper leader unless their is proper grooming as a servant.

Who is a Servant
1. He is a keeper
2. He is a waiter
3. He is one who look after things and not for things
4. He is an accountable caretaker

The Spirit of servant-hood will help you:
1. Serve without strive
2. Destroy the spirit of competition and self glory
3. It will help you do your service in GOD'S kingdom till promotion comes
4. It empowers you to serve with excitement.
5. It makes you serve willingly
6. It makes you serve with Honour.

Examples of great servants:
Jesus, Moses, Joseph, David, Samuel, Joshua, Elisha, Bishop Oyedepo, add yourself if you are a faithful servant of GOD. etc.

REWARD THE SPIRIT OF SERVANT-HOOD BRING:
1. You enjoy honour
2. You enjoy divine protection
3. You will enjoy divine backing
4. Preservation
5. Blossom

And NOW receive ye the SPIRIT OF SERVANT-HOOD in JESUS NAME. AMEN!!!!

Get ready for today's encounter for I believe GOD today's Shiloh encounter will be far greater than yesterday. Be blessed.....I fill like dancing....

See how this kind God matter they sweet people on NL becos them just one use fowl words on their fellows and men of God ! Mind you,if u believe say heaven they,God no go pursue you comot if a brother or a sister wey you dey try convert no gree and him come go hell ! So take am easy easy becos salvation na personal thing !
God bless us

omosexy1: Will your prophet take you to that your destination - HEAVEN? Are you not ashamed that another man is telling you how to live spiritually. If you feel he hears from God, why can't you hear from God too and if you feel he was chosen, why can't you put yourself in that same light to be chosen and stop being deluded from another flesh like you. I have always told myself that if a man wakes up one morning and claim that he is a man of God, me too would wake up and do same. If you claim you have direct access to God, well I also want that access but not through you (because I cannot make you my idol) just show me the school you attended and I go enrol sharply. But if you feel sey you too sharp and wan collect my money onto God level - You dey dream. Cos I don't pay for God Services. It is available for free.

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No prophet can take any one to heaven ! It is not even sure for the so called prophet !
Friend,no one is saying pastors or men of God generally are not humans.They are and forever wiil be untill they die and go to where ever they will go to.They are bound to make mistakes. If i say they dnt make mistakes then i am saying they are now God.Some of thse pastors fall into the sin of fornication,adultery,stealing God's money,disobedience,anger and sometimes lying !And becos they fall in does not mean that they have seized bin men of God ! But if the LIVE in these sins,if it becomes part of them,then they may be deceiving themselves or others !
What i am saying is if i listen to the word of God coming from a supposedly man of God,and there is an instruction to me from God or HIS words coming to me through a man of God as a medium,i compare it with what the holy bible has said and discovers that it's in line or in consonance or in agreement,if i obey that instruction and do as was instructed(i.e stop sleeping with another man's wife or give and it shall be given unto you), will it be said that i obeyed my pastor or God ? Will it also amount to worshiping of pastors wen i never bowed down to him in worship or as my God.
''Without prophetic vision people run wild, but blessed are those who follow [God's] teachings.''Proverb 29:18
We can submit or make ourselves available for God to use us. We sure need a prophet as we can as well be a prophet of our lives. There are baby christians who need spiritual guidance for them not to indulge in childish things !The book of Hebrew told us that there are christians who need to be thot Godly things.And it is one step at a time.But we will all grow eventually if we continue in HIS ways. See below:
''Hebrews 5:12 In fact, though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God's word all over again. You need milk, not solid food!

“Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets” (Amos 3:7).

Concerning whether it is proper or scriptural to give to God,see below the words of apostle Paul to the congrgation in CORINTH:
''If we have sown spiritual things among you, is it too much if we reap material things from you?-1st Corinthians 9:11

'' In the same way, the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should receive their living from the gospel.''-1st Corinthians 9:14
But my brothers and sisters,i tell you this day that if ANY MAN based on the above decided to reap us off unnecessary,God will judge him. Let's not be the judge but allow God to be becos we don't follow man or worship him but God and his word !
God bless us

try69: Common sense is not common!

Even if I know my pastor is genuine, I would be sensible enough to know when he goes wrong and admit it!

People are just here trying to protect their pastors and it's pathetic!

Example: 3 jets worth more than $70 million and more for upkeep for just one "Man of God" is notjustok

You did not make him man of God ! Man of God is man and NOT GOD ! If he makes mistakes,what is the standard for measurement ?wHAT YARD STICK AM I USING TO judge him ? He bought three jets and so ?Did he use my money to buy jet or God's money ? Allow God to judge him. If you feel he is going astray,walk up to him and tell him.Whether he listens or not,go home and start to pray for him instead of comming here to call him BASTARD,THIEF, Evil,ritualist,pastorpreneur, entrepreneur,retarden. Haba ! Him kill person ni ! Look after ur own life and relationship with God. Pastors are humans and they make mistakes every day. If any one says that they can't or don't make mistakes it means that the person is saying that they are now God ! Am still waiting for the day i will hear something like THE INFALLIBILITY OF THE PASTORS ! They are fallible,infact they are not and can not stand before God ! God can use them or any man wen ever HE wishes even YOU if u make urself available !
God bless us

razznaija: No, its not a sin, but it becomes a sin when the poor people gave their last kobo to the pastor and he ends up using the money to buy private jet.

No, they gave to God and God gave it to the pastors ! Will God chop the money ? He does what he pleases with it ! And if you say you give to God ur offerings,why bother what HE is doing with it ? But if u are giving to pastor and not God,you should ask him what he needs the offering for.If he didn't tell you that he want's to use it for buying of jet and goes ahead to buy one,then you can demand ur money back from him !
God bless us

2HASUM: No be small thing, even some fit steal for office go give them pasitor make dem for dey sidon for front roll imagine those deacons wen them be MDs for some banks b4

If you steal for office go give am to God,you no go still enter heaven ! Na to be born again na him go arrange ur life ! If we dey born again,we go understand wether we suppose to bring offering or not ! SALVATION na him be highest.
God bless us

Originalsly: Oh boy...how dare he speak the truth and open the eyes of the blind? ...and make them hold back offerings that should be mine?... him I must find and treat like a swine for revealing this Sign of End Time.

No man can break the word of God. Bring in your tithes and offerings ! You can't take it away from God.But if u want to follow the devil,then there is no problem. Mind you,even if you pay ur tithes and offerings,your heaven is not guaranteed until you become BORN AGAIN !
Gog bless us

As for the christians.....we'r running different races,dnt let wat a pastor did or dint do mk u lose focus on the christian race[/quote]I love this one ! Are pastors guilty of all these accusations ?We have them real,true and original out there as fake and devilish ones abound ! The word of God can't be broken. The last days talk never started today but for sure i know that we are in the last days ! Christ cometh quickly.
God bless us

[quote author=P.U.S.H]I don't have to judge anybody. Except you are being sentimental. With common sense, you will agree in Nigeria perspective that what Mr. Ibu is talking is true for a country that majority of her citizens live below $1 a day. For those of you hiding from the true, I pity you because it is only the truth that can set you free.[/quote]We can't hide from the fact that God has promised to bless his children ! And if the children of God are bin blessed according to the word of God,what concerns heaven with people who have refused to accept the ways of God ? See friends,the word of God can not be broken,poor people can't seize to exist in the land !-The word of God. If you chhose to be among the poor,you can remain there but if not,look for possible positive ways of breaking loose from the shackles of poverty ! You can find positive ways in the word of God and that is what some of us enjoy.
God bless us

2HASUM: I pray when the time for head count comes when God will demand for 10 honest men in this nation they will be available, those amassing resources to speak the truth are collecting gifts from those squandering our commonwealth under various guise.

The word of God said that the wealth of the gentiles(unbelievers)will be given to the children of God who know how to make use of these wealth !
God bless us

2HASUM: I have seen faithful and religious thithe paying, offering giving, seed sowing members of private jet acquiring churches that their lives can not depict what you are painting here, some of their lady folks in their late 30s and early 40s no husband,no kids, salaries still under 70k per month for graduate of over 7yrs and you are spilling above, to pay house rent nko, na WAEC for some, but every month not less than 20% goes to pastor and family, January 100%+, me i am scared if this is ordinary, when ritual killers are arrested they readily mention their customers they sell human legs to for crowd effect, with crowd comes pay, maga must pay

Na God dey do everything no dey scared my brother. You can't change anything. This is not politics or economics !
God bless us

Lucasbalo: the bottom line is that most of this Pastors are just taking advantage of this people. The same thing is going on here in Chicago where I live. The difference is that people are catching up to there game. Go give all ur money to some pastors so u can go to heaven.

Nothing takes one to heaven but the grace of the Almighty God.There is no where it was written that if you give you will go to heaven.No but christ said unless we get born again,we can't enter the kingdom of God. Christianity's ultimate goal is going to heaven but there are things before that. We can't live all our lives siting in our homes becos we want to get to heaven No ! That was not the teaching of Jesus.
You said something concerning giving,if you give any where whether to a pastor,motherless babies homes,beggers,or even to the devil,you still have some reward awaiting you here on earth and also in heaven if you eventually make it.Giving does not take one to heaven but it's sure a kingdom principle.
See below the words of Apostle paul to the corinthians:
''If we sowed spiritual things in you, is it too much if we reap material things from you?''-1st Corinthians 9:11
Giving to a man of God is not a sin my brother.If they steal from God,it's left for them and God. See if you dnt give,no body will kill you and no body is saying u can't go to heaven.Afterall there are people who dnt even have let alone giving. These pastors they are yet to tell us what is not scriptural ! But if you think otherwise,then it's left for you !
God bless us

chipet67: KOLO is when you see a poor beggar on the road and you refuse to give him 50 naira out of the 5000 naira in your pocket because it is your tithe money....

Don't joke with ur tithe money o, its nt urz, it belongs to God... I partially disagree with this one .

friend,if you follow the tithe principle,you should understand in the first place that the instruction there in Mal 3 says you should bring it to the house of God ! But tithing goes along with giving alms to destitute and others in need. Wen you give to people in need it is not tithe but still very very good. Jesus said to the pharisees one time that it is good to pay ur tithe but dnt ignore other good good things.
See below;
"But woe to you Pharisees! For you pay tithe of mint and rue and every kind of garden herb, and yet disregard justice and the love of God; but these are the things you should have done without neglecting the others''-.Luke 11:42
God bless us

akagaba: And that doesnt stop me frm being a millionaire, if u dnt like it like dat, then get burnt like d aluu 4.

Am sory bro,Christians dnt use such words ! Watch it !
God bless us

Leadn: He sure blesses us... put your brain into something good! It's decaying up there!

The things of God are sure the best things knowledgeable people should desire ! If my brain is stuck there,then for sure am on the right track and may it forever remain there.You are blessed bro
God bless more

[quote author=lynpetra][/quote]You are not an ordinary man ! You are a great man ! You resemble ur maker .You are wonderfully and miraculously made.God does not frown at our bein but our acts.He want's us to change and have a positive mind.If i study my bible with the help of the holy spirit,i will be able to tell wen am going off track.If i see a homosexuals i can openly tell him that God frowns at things like that and God can still accept him if he is willing to change and i can tell him that if he doesn't change as well,he will end up in hell becos that is what the bible says and not my word.I will go into my closet and pray for him to change and accept Christ.
So my brother,let's try to seek the face of God,HE will show it to us.
God bless us

[quote author=garri_gangster]I feel sad on your behalf[/quote]You feel sad for me for trying to remain on God's good book ! God help u and help me
God bless us